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Alan de Sylvester Master of the Forest of the Wirral Lord of Stourton



Preferred Parents:
Father: Ranulph I De Sylvester ,   
Mother: Ranulph De Sylvester I,   

Family 1: Alan de Sylvester,      
  1. Ranulph FitzAlan de Sylvester, of the Wirral, b. ABT 1145     d. 1190
Sources:
  1. Title: Our royal, titled, noble and commoner ancestors
    Author: Citations [S9893] Unknown author, The History of the County Palatine and City of Chester, by George Ormerod, 1819, p. 250; Burke's Peerage, 1938, p. 784.
    Publication: Name: https://our-royal-titled-noble-and-commoner-ancestors.com/p1070.htm#i32142;
    Note: Allan Silvester, Lord Stourton1 Last Edited 4 Apr 2020 M, #32142, d. after 1120 Allan Silvester, Lord Stourton died after 1120. Family Child Randle de Sylvester, Lord Stourton+
  2. Title: Wikitree - Alan de Sylvester
    Author: Geoffrey Barraclough, ed, "Charters of Anglo-Norman Earls of Chester", The Record Society of Lancashire and Cheshire, (1988), Ronald David Stewart-Brown, M.A., F.S.A., F.S.Gen, "The Charter and Horn of the Master-Forester of Wirrall," The Historic Society of Lancashire & Cheshire, (1935), LXXXVII:97-8, 101, John Paul Rylands, ed., "The Visitation of Cheshire in the year 1580 made by Robert Glover, Somerset Herald, for William Flower, Norroy King of Arms, with numerous additions and continuations, including those from the Visitation of Cheshire made in the year 1566, by the same Herald. With an Appendix, containing the Visitation of a part of Cheshire in the year 1533, made by William Fellows, Lancaster Herald, for Thomas Benolte, Clarenceux King of Arms. And a Fragment of the Visitation of the City of Chester in the year 1591, made by Thomas Chaloner, Deputy to the Office of Arms", The Publications of the Harleian Society, XVIII, (London: Harleian Society, 1882), 267. et.al.
    Publication: Name: https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Sylvester-63;
    Note: Alan Silvester , Master-Forester of Wirral[1] [2] There are no extant records of when Alan was born, however, he was a "man and minister" therefore in his majority, when he was granted the townships of Storeton and Puddington in Cheshire by the earl of Chester circa 1130-40,[1] [2] so born circa 1109-1119. Although self-published online trees say Alan was born at Storeton on the Wirral peninsula in Cheshire, England,[3] there is no evidence to associate Alan with Storeton before he was granted the township.[1] [2] Circa 1130-40, Storeton and Puddington were given to Alan as an endowment for his position as master forester of Wirral.[1] [2] Alan was the father of Ranulphe[4] or Robert Savage,[5] [6] who was living 1162 -1166,[5] Ranulphe or Robert was the father of Amabella (Annabella,[6]), who was married to Alexander,[4] between 1177 and 1181.[6] Alexander, who was Earl Hugh's governor and instructor,[4] that is, the tutor of Ranulf, son of Hugh II, earl of Chester,[6] was given Storeton and Puddington by Earl Hugh in free marriage with Annabella, the daughter and heir of Ralph/Robert, son of Alan.[4] [6] Alan was living between 1154 and 1160, when he witnessed Hugh II, earl of Chester, confirm the gift of Greasby in Wirral to St Werburgh's abbey.[7] Alan was dead before 1162 and 1166, when Earl Hugh confirmed the gift of Robert Savage, Alan's son, of a bovate of land to the abbot of St Werburgh's.[5] For the marriage of Alan's granddaughter, Annabella, to be in the earl's gift, "it must be assumed" that Alan's son and her father, Robert, was dead when Earl Hugh granted it to Alexander magister circa 1177-81.[6] Research Notes Evidences from Contemporaneous Sources Circa 1130-40, Ranulf de Gernon Earl Ranulf II of Chester from 1129 to 1153, granted the townships of Storeton and Puddington in Cheshire, to the earl's man and minister, Alan Silvester, and his heirs, for half a knight's fee, which was witnessed by William de Romara, William de Percy, Richard de Hay, William the constable, William the monk, Robert Grevesac, Robert de Treveres, Serle the hunter, William meschin de Romara, Geoffrey the dispenser, Beringer the falconer, Roger de Verdun, Spileman the chamberlain, Richard the butler, Philip the chamberlain, Adam de Praers, and others.[1] [2] The great seal of Ranulf de Gernon is attached to the charter.[2] Storeton and Puddington were given to Alan as an endowment for his position as master forester of Wirral.[1] [2] Between 1154 and 1160, Hugh II, earl of Chester from 1153 to 1181, confirmed the gift of Greasby in Wirral to St Werburgh's abbey by Richard de Rullos, which was witnessed by Hugh's mother, Matilda, Richard de Rullos and Robert his brother, Robert Basseat, Roger capellano, William superbo, Alan Silvester, and many others.[7] Between 1162 and 1166, in the abbot of St Werburgh's chamber at Chester, the gift of a bovate of land which Wulfric held in Storeton (Wirral) to St Werburgh's abbey by Robert Savage, ["the son of Alan Silvester"], was confirmed by Hugh II, earl of Chester 1153-81, and witnessed by Richard de Luvetot, Radulfo son of Warner, Roger de Liuet, Frunbaldo, Robert son of Gilbert, Hugh de Bosdel, William the earl's capellano and many others.[5] Between 1177 and 1181, Hugh II, earl of Chester from 1153 to 1181, gave to Alexander, tutor of the earl's son, Storeton and Puddington on his marriage with Annabella, granddaughter of Alan Savage, witnessed by Bertram de Verdon, John the constable, Robert Patric, Richard de Luvetot, Radulfo the sheriff, Roelein de Verdon and William Mansell.[6] Dating the Grant of Storeton and Puddington The great seal of Ranulf de Gernon attached to the original charter provides clear evidence that the grant of Storeton and Puddington was by earl Ranulf "de Gernon" no earlier than 1129.[2] However, many early researchers believed that Alan's grant was from Ranalf or Randal de Meschines, Earl of Chester,[8] [9] including: Camden (excerpt from Philemon Holland's English translation of 1610, based on Camden's final 1607 edition of Britannia):[10] From the Citie (Chester) Northwestward there shooteth out a languet [tongue] of land, or promontorie of the maine-land, into the sea, enclosed on the one side with Dee mouth, on the other side with the river Mersey. Wee call it Wirall, ... Upon the North standeth Hooten, a manour which in King Richard the Second his time came to the Stanleies, who fetch their pedigree from Alane Sylvestre, upon whom Ranulph the first of that name, Earle of Chester, conferred the Bailly-wick of the Forest of Wirall, by delivering unto him an home. the Wirral Horn inscription, believed to have been added in the 17th Century:[2] In the year 1120, Ranalf de Meschines, Earl of Chester, created Alan Sylvester chief forester of the forest of Wirral and granted to him the manors of Hooton, Storeton and Puddington to hold upon condition that he performed the duties of forester and in addition that he blew or caused to be blown a horn at the Gloverstone in Chester on the morning of every fair day, to indicate that the tolls on all goods bought or sold in the city or within the sound of that horn belonged to the Earl or his tenants. Alan Sylvester was succeeded by his son, Ralph, on whose death, without issue, Hugh Cyveliac, Earl of Chester, granted the same manors with the forestership to Alexander de Storeton on his marriage with Annabella, the daughter of Alan Sylvester. Alexander de Storeton again had only female issue and the forestership passed next to Sir Thomas Bamville, who married Agnes de Storeton,daughter of Alexander. Sir Philip Bamville, the heir of Sir Thomas, also left issue, three daughters only, the eldest of whom, Jane, married Sir William de Stanley, and brought the forestership as part of her dower, the title of her son, John Stanley, having been proved in 1346 before Jordan de Macclesfield, justice in Eyre to the Earl of Chester. In this family it remained until disafforested by King Edward III on the complaint of the citizens of Chester who represented that they were grievous sufferers from the freebooters who lurked in the forest. The Stanleys petitioned the king for renumeration for the loss of the profits attached to the office of chief forester, and were granted an annuity of twenty marks, which however seems to have been indifferently paid. The horn, however, which was the symbol of their tenure, has remained in the possession of the Stanley family ever since. Other errors made in the inscription and by early researchers: Hooton was not granted to Alan Silvester in the original charter;[2] Annabella was not the daughter of Alan,[9] she was his fiiam filii, that is, his granddaughter;[6] [8] there is no evidence that the master forester blew or caused to be blown a horn at the Gloverstone in Chester on the morning of every fair day.[2]
    Page: Provides more detailed history of the Sylvester line that appears to show there were 2 Agnes de Sylvester, one married to Thomas Bamville and another married to John de Bechton
  3. Title: Legacy NFS Source: Alan de Sylvester -
    Author: The History of Cheshire, Ormerod, George Esq., LL.D., F.S.A., 2nd Edition by Thomas Helsby, Esq, London: George Routledge & Sons, 1882, Brigham Young University, Harold B. Lee Library, Provo, UT 84604, Page number: vol. 2, p. 448
    Page: Migrated from user-supplied source citation: urn:familysearch:source:2332820711
  4. Title: Burke's Peerage & Baronetage, 106th Edition, Charles Mosley Editor-in-Chief, 1999
    Author: Burke's Peerage & Baronetage, 106th Edition, Charles Mosley Editor-in-Chief, 1999, p.815.
    Note: [PFT:AQ] [S:Titl] Burke's Peerage & Baronetage, 106th Edition, Charles Mosley Editor-in-Chief, 1999 [Page] 815 [/PFT]
  5. Title: The History of the Hundred of Wirral
    Publication: Name: https://archive.org/stream/historyhundredw00mortgoog#page/n226/mode/2up;
  6. Title: The visitation of Cheshire in the year 1580
    Publication: Name: https://archive.org/stream/visitationofches00glov#page/266/mode/2up;
    Page: Shows early account of lineage of Alan de Sylvester

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