Humbert de Munchansey II

• Preferred Name: Humbert de Munchansey II^{[1] [2]}
  
• Gender: M
  
• Fact: with note: Description: https://www.geni.com/people/Hubert-de-Munchensy/6000000058221893876?through=6000000004006587712
  
• Birth: ABT 1035 in Lower Normandy, France at LATI: N9.18 LONG: E0.38 with note: GEDCOM Data
  
• Death: Y
  
• FSID: 9CNK-2B7
  
• Birth: 1010 in Calvados, Lower Normandy, France at LATI: N9.1667 LONG: E0.5
  
• LdsBaptism: 8 AUG 1991 with note: GEDCOM data
  
• Notes:

  === Life Sketch ===
  Hubert I Munchesney (Monte-Canisio) (Montchesney)
  s/o
  b- - Mont-Canisy, Calvados, Normandy, France
  m-
  d- after 1086
  
  1086 - domesday teneant of Robert Malet
  
  no date - minor tenant in chief in Suffolk
  no date - HUBERT Monte-Casio - gave the manor of Yaxley to- Robert Malet's prioy at Eye
  no date - Benefactor of Thetford Priory
  
  === FamilySearch showed this additional info ===
  FamilySearch showed this additional information:
  Birth - Date: Abt 1035 Place: Basse-Normandie, France
  
  === My PAF Notes ===
  from thepeerage.com, 7/2009L
  Hubert de Munchensy1
  M, #211974
  Last Edited=26 Nov 2006
  Hubert de Munchensy was born at Normandy, France .1 He died at Edwarstone, Suffolk, England .1
  Child of Hubert de Munchensy
  Sarah de Munchensy + 1
  Citations
  [S1916 ] Tim Boyle, "re: Boyle Family," e-mail message from > (unknown address) to Darryl Roger Lundy, 16 September 2006. Hereinafter cited as "re: Boyle Family".

1. Hubert de Monte Caniso, Baron de Munchensy of Edwardstone I, b. ABT 1045 in Canisy, Manche, Duché de Normandie     d. ABT 1120 in Edwardstone, Suffolk, England

1. Title: MUNCHENSY
   Publication: Name: http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/enguntlo.htm#_Toc64702028;
   Note: 1. DREUX de Munchensy . "…Droco de Munchi…" witnessed the charter dated to [1121] [marked "Spurious?" in the compilation] under which Henry I King of England confirmed the property of Thetford St Mary’s[1594]. 2. HUBERT [I] de Munchensy (-before 1120). Domesday Book records “Hubert de Mont-Canisy” holding Wyverstone in Suffolk[1595]. m firstly ---. This first marriage is confirmed by Domesday Descendants which states that Hubert de Munchensy was the son of Hubert by his first wife (no corresponding primary source cited)[1596]. m secondly as her second husband, MURIEL de Valoignes, widow of --- de Backton, daughter of ---. Muriel wife of Hubert de Munchensy donated land at Rushworth to Thetford abbey on making her son Hugh a monk there, confirmed by her sons "William de Bachetone and Roger de Munchensy, her brother Roger de Valoignes and his son Piers", by undated charter[1597]. Hubert [I] & his [first] wife had two children: a) GILBERT de Munchensy (-after [Feb 1120/Feb 1121]). The Chronicle of Abingdon records that "Gillbertus filius Huberti de Munte Kanesi" confirmed the donation of "ecclesia Eaduuardestune" to the monastery of Abingdon made by "patre suo", dated to "anno IV post obitum abbatis Faritii" [dated to [Feb 1120/Feb 1121][1598]][1599]. b) HUBERT [II] de Munchensy (-after 1166). Domesday Descendants states that Hubert de Munchensy was the son of Hubert by his first wife (no corresponding primary source cited)[1600]. The 1130 Pipe Roll records "Hub de Montecanesi" holding land in Norfolk from Hugo Bigod and "ubt de Monte Canesi" land in Suffolk[1601]. "W comes Cicestrie…et regina Adelide" granted land at Wymondham, Norfolk to the church of St Lazarus of Jerusalem by charter dated to [1150], witnessed by "…Hub de Montechan…"[1602]. “Comes Hugo Bigott, Hubertus de Monte Canisi…Warinus de Monte-Canisi…” witnessed the charter under which "Willielmus…comes Cicestriæ" founded Old Buckenham Priory, Norfolk, dated to the reign of King Stephen (dated to [1151/52] in The Complete Peerage[1603]), quoted in an Inspeximus of King Edward II[1604]. Hubert de Munchensy confirmed his (unnamed) father’s donation of tithes of Clay and Holkham to Castelacre priory by undated charter, witnessed by "Roger de Munchensy, Warin de Munchensy fratre meo"[1605]. Military fee certifications in the Red Book of the Exchequer, in 1166, record that "Hubert de Montechanesi" held 11 knights’ fees from "honore de Eye" in Suffolk[1606]. m ---. The name of Hubert’s wife is not known. Hubert & his wife had one child: i) --- de Munchensy (-after 1166). Military fee certifications in the Red Book of the Exchequer, in 1166, record that "filius Huberti de Muntchensi" held one knight’s fee from the bishop of Ely in Cambridgeshire[1607]. Hubert & his [first/second] wife had [one child]: c) [SARAH de Munchensy (-1185 or before). The Rotuli de Dominabus of 1185 records “Hubertus Blundus filius Willelmi Blundi…xx annorum…nepos Huberti de Muntchenesy”, adding that “terra sua de Yxewurth venit in manum Episcopi [Eliensis] ad festum Sancti Michaelis post mortem Sarre de Muntchenesy”[1608]. It is unclear from this text whether the mother of Hubert Blount (presumably Sarah de Munchensy) was (i) the daughter of Hubert [I] de Munchensy, (ii) the daughter of Hubert [II] de Munchensy, or (iii) the sister of Hubert [II]. m WILLIAM Blount, son of --- (-before 1185).] Hubert & his second wife had three children: d) [HUGH . Monk at Thetford Abbey. Muriel wife of Hubert de Munchensy donated land at Rushworth to Thetford abbey on making her son Hugh a monk there, confirmed by her sons "William de Bachetone and Roger de Munchensy, her brother Roger de Valoignes and his son Piers", by undated charter[1609]. It is not known whether Hugh was born from his mother’s first or second marriage.] same person as…? HUGH de Munchensy (-before 29 Sep 1187). Assuming that Hugh, installed as a monk at Thetford, was the son of Muriel de Valoignes by her second marriage, it is possible that he was the same person as Hubert [I]’s son Hugh, maybe withdrawn from holy orders if his older half-brothers had no male heirs. “Hugo de Montecanisio…et Stephanus filius et hæres meus” donated "ecclesiam de Edwardeston", previously donated by "pater meus Hubertus" to Abingdon, to Colne Priory, Essex by undated charter, witnessed by "comes Albricus [which dates the document to after 1142], Willielmus de Veer, Rogerus de Montecanis…Rogerus de Bellocampo, Gaufridus de Veer, novissime superveniens, Johannes Brito"[1610]. - see below. e) ROGER [I] de Munchensy . Muriel wife of Hubert de Munchensy donated land at Rushworth to Thetford abbey on making her son Hugh a monk there, confirmed by her sons "William de Bachetone and Roger de Munchensy, her brother Roger de Valoignes and his son Piers", by undated charter[1611]. “Hugo de Montecanisio…et Stephanus filius et hæres meus” donated "ecclesiam de Edwardeston", previously donated by "pater meus Hubertus" to Abingdon, to Colne Priory, Essex by undated charter, witnessed by "comes Albricus [which dates the document to after 1142], Willielmus de Veer, Rogerus de Montecanis…Rogerus de Bellocampo, Gaufridus de Veer, novissime superveniens, Johannes Brito"[1612]. It is assumed that Roger was the brother of the donor, but the primary source which confirms that this is correct has not yet been identified. Hubert de Munchensy confirmed his (unnamed) father’s donation of tithes of Clay and Holkham to Castelacre priory by undated charter, witnessed by "Roger de Munchensy, Warin de Munchensy fratre meo"[1613]. m MATILDA, daughter of ---. Domesday Descendants cites charters of Colne which name Matilda as the wife of Roger de Munchensy[1614]. Roger & his wife had two children: i) ROGER [II] de Munchensy . The primary source which confirms his parentage has not yet been identified. ii) JOAN de Munchensy . The primary source which confirms her parentage and marriage has not yet been identified. m WALTER de Colchester, son of ---. f) WARIN [I] de Munchensy (-before 1162). “Comes Hugo Bigott, Hubertus de Monte Canisi…Warinus de Monte-Canisi…” witnessed the charter under which "Willielmus…comes Cicestriæ" founded Old Buckenham Priory, Norfolk, dated to the reign of King Stephen (dated to [1151/52] in The Complete Peerage[1615]), quoted in an Inspeximus of King Edward II[1616]. Hubert de Munchensy confirmed his (unnamed) father’s donation of tithes of Clay and Holkham to Castelacre priory by undated charter, witnessed by "Roger de Munchensy, Warin de Munchensy fratre meo"[1617]. As Warin’s name follows Roger (who is confirmed above as the son of Hubert [I] by his second marriage) in the witness list, it is assumed that Warin [I] was a younger son of Hubert by Muriel de Valoignes. - see below.
   
2. Title: Book - Domesday People: Domesday Book (1086)