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Rhys ap Bledri, Baron of Cil y Saint
- Preferred Name: Rhys ap Bledri, Baron of Cil y Saint[1] [2] [3]
- Gender: M
- http://familysearch.org/v1/TitleOfNobility: Lord of Blaenkyed
- FSID: 9WRN-GQY
- Fact: with note: Description: https://www.geni.com/people/Bleddri-ap-Cydifor-Fawr/6000000062610128830?through=6000000039488647235
- Birth: 1095 in Llanwinio, Carmarthenshire, Wales at LATI: N1.9048 LONG: E4.5437
- Burial: 1117 in Wales at LATI: N2.3302 LONG: E3.7664
- Death: 1194 in Wales at LATI: N2.3302 LONG: E3.7664
- Notes:
=== Life Sketch ===
From the Morgan Family History (online at http://www.hausegenealogy.com/morgan.html):
The word "Mor-gan" is a Cymric derivative, meaning one born by the sea (muir, sea ; gin, begotten). It's one of the oldest Welsh names on record, stretching back to the legends of King Arthur: The story goes that after a defeat in battle with a local potentate, Arthur removed his queen for safety to the coast of what is now the county of Glamorganshire, in Wales. Her child, Arthur's younger son, was born there and named Mor-gan—the man 'born by the sea'—and from that they named the land Gla-mor-gan, meaning the country of the man born by the sea.¹
Arthurian Legend is rooted in Wales: The Round Table was supposedly at Cærleon on the Usk, and the village of Cærfyrddin (Caerfyrddin), still exists today. Merlin the wizard is said to have been born there in the sixth century. But most importantly to us, it's the hometown of the earliest-known Morgan ancestor. In fact, the Morgans in our lineage actually came to America from Glamorganshire, Wales, in the 1600's.
A thousand years ago in NON-fictional history, Cærfyrddinshire was inhabited by a tribe who the Romans called the Demetæ. (Whatever they called themselves has been lost through time.) The chieftain of this tribe was named CADIVOR-FAWR. He controlled the land of Dyfed (now called Pembrokeshire). His wife was ELEN, daughter and heiress of another chieftain, LLWCH LLAWEN. Cadivor died in the year 1089 and was buried at Carfyrddin.
Cadivor's third son, BLEDDRI², is the next direct ancestor of the Welsh Morgan line (he was the source of the first version of the Morgan Coat-of-Arms).
What follows is our lineage to Bleddri, according to the "Morgan Family History" book at the Family History Library in Salt Lake City, Utah (NOTE: In Welsh conventions of patronymics, AP denotes "son of," and FERCH denotes "daughter of." These were used because there were no surnames in Wales until about 1400, so it was the only way you could tell people apart):
Bleddri married CLYDWEN, daughter of GRIFFITH ap CYDRICH, and had a son named IVOR. Ivor married NEST, daughter of CADAROC ap MADOC ap IDNERTH ap CADWGAN ap ELSTAN GLODDRYDD, and they had a son with the blessedly short name of LLEWELYN.
Llewelyn married LLEICI, daughter of GRIFFITH ap BELI and had a son named IVOR.
Ivor married TANGLWST, daughter of HOWEL SAIS ap ARGLWYDD RHYS, and had a son named LLEWELYN LLEIA. He married SUSAN, also a daughter of HOWEL ap HOWEL SAIS, a first cousin, although how anybody could trace that with all of the other aps and ferches running around is beyond me. Anyway, they had son named IVOR.
Ivor's spouse is unknown, but he had a son named LLEWELYN, Lord of Kilsaint or St. Clear. Llewelyn married ANGHARAD (b. 1300), daughter and heir of SIR MORGAN ap MEREDITH, from the Welsh Lords of Cærleon, ap GRIFFITH ap MEREDITH ap RHYS, the Lord of Tredegar. (From this point the Morgan line descends as the "Morgans of Tredegar.")³
CHILDREN OF LLEWELYN AND ANGHARAD
MORGAN (see below).
IVOR HAEL, whence Morgan of Gwern-y-Cleppa
PHILIP, whence Lewis of St. Pierre.
Llewelyn and Angharad's son, MORGAN (d. 1384), married MAUD, daughter of RHUN ap GRONO ap LLWARCH, Lord of Cibwr.
CHILDREN OF MORGAN AND MAUD
LLEWELYN ap MORGAN (see below)
PHILIP, whence Morgan of Langstone
JOHN, father of Gwenllian, married David Goch ap David.
CHRISTIAN, who married Jevan ap Jenkin Kemeys
ANN, who married David Gwilim David of Rhiwperr.
MARGARET, who married Traherne ap Meyric of Merthyr
(DAUGHTER), who married Thomas ap Gwillim of Carnllwyd
ELENOR, who married Grono ap Howel Bennet.
member of royalty, nobility or aristocracy in Wales
Bledri Latimer ap Cydifor was a member of royalty, nobility or aristocracy in Wales in the Middle Ages. from Wiki https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Ap_Cydifor-7
=== BIRTH-MARRIAGE:"WELSH GENEALOGIES AD300- ===
BIRTH-MARRIAGE:"WELSH GENEALOGIES AD300-1400," by Peter Clement Bartrum, published by The University of Wales Press, 1980.
=== Woodward MSS, "Welsh Pedigrees" pp 157, ===
Woodward MSS, "Welsh Pedigrees" pp 157, 177-179
=== !1. Bartrum, 300-1400, Cyd. F. 1, pg. ===
!1. Bartrum, 300-1400, Cyd. F. 1, pg. 187 and Cydrych 1 !2. Llewys Dwunn, vol. i, pg. 27, 114, t:116
=== !Medieval !Being acquainted with the lan ===
!Medieval
!Being acquainted with the language of the invaders of Dyvett, became interpreter betwixt them and the Britons, and therefore surnamed by them "Latimer" or the "Interpreter".
=== J Williams: Llyfr Baglan P. 92 G T Clar ===
J Williams: Llyfr Baglan P. 92 G T Clark: The Genealogies of Glamorgan P. 310 Woodward Mss, "Welsh Pedigrees" pp 157, 177-179
=== HISTORY OF MONMOUTHSHIRE, WALES, P.83; ===
HISTORY OF MONMOUTHSHIRE, WALES, P.83; THE GENEALOGIES OF MORGAN AND GLAMORGAN, P.310;
=== !SOURCE: A History of the Morgan Family ===
!SOURCE: A History of the Morgan Family FHL book # 929.273/M821md Married Lleici, daughter of Griffith ap Beli and had IVOR.
=== Bledri Latimer, of Cilsant, called "Lati ===
Bledri Latimer, of Cilsant, called "Latimer", or "Interpreter", because he understood the langmacge of the Normans who about now began their advance into South Wales and could help the Welsh communicate with them; living 1117; married Clydwen, daughter of Gruffudd ap Cydrych. [Burke's Peerage]
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Bledri ap Cydifor (d 1120), chieftain, to whom the Normans entrusted, during the Welsh revolt of 1116, the castle of Robert Courtemayn near Carmarthen, sitmacted perhaps as Abercywyn. He figures in the Pipe Roll of 1130 as 'Bledericus Walensis,' who owes £1 for the killing of a Fleming by his men and one mark in respect of scutage. The cartulary of Carmarthen priory shows that, at some time between 1129 and 1134 'Bledericus' bestowed on that house four carucates of land in Edlwys Newydd, now Newchurch. In this record, he bears the title 'Latemeri,' i.e. interpreter, which confirms the impression that he was a Welshman of consequence in this district who maintained friendly relations with the invader. His descendants remained prominent landowners hereabouts for centuries. They were to be found at Cil Sant, Pwll Dyrach, Motlysgwm, and Picton.
Bledri is an unusmacl name, and it is natural to identify the Carmarthen magnate with the 'Bledhericus' of Gerald of Wales, whom he describes as a famous romancer, not long dead. Norman French, it is certain, was a familiar tongue to one who acted as interpreter between the two races. It is a further step, not accepted on all hands, to find in the same man the 'Breri' who is treated as an authority about 1160 by the author of a French romance of Tristan, and also the 'Bleheris' of an early form of the Perceval legend. [Dictionary of Welsh Biography p41]
=== !#4568> Welsh Genealogies Ad 300-1400,-v ===
!#4568> Welsh Genealogies Ad 300-1400,-v3-p126,-v4-p187*,189,192,197,200,204, 208,209,-v9-p663,-v10-p762,798 (FHL #6025561); !#248> Commoners-v4-p107,382,473 (FHL 942 B2bc); #249-5s-v5-p182,188; Lord of Killsaint; #2226> Morgan and Glamorgan Genealogies-p310* (FHL 942.97 D2c); ARCH REC> Genealogies of the Morgans and Glamorgans; Eminent Welshmen; History of Monmouthshire; Archaelogia Cambrensis; Historical Society of West Wales; History of the Princes of South Wales; (Birth 1047/57, of Blaen Cych; Lord of Killsaint; Lord of Blaen Cych;) !LVG> 1116; LVG> witnessed a Berkerollos grant of Basaleg to Glastonbury; ORD> TIB: Logan: Bap> L 20900, End> 25180-D3-1200;
=== !#4568-v4-p187,198*; v10-p762; ^bornL2> ===
!#4568-v4-p187,198*; v10-p762; ^bornL2> Tre-lech a'r Betws;
=== !SOURCE: A History of the Morgan Family ===
!SOURCE: A History of the Morgan Family FHL book # 929.273/M821md Source of the first version of the Morgan Coat-of-Arms. Married Clydwen, daughter of Griffith, and had son IVOR.
=== Rootsweb: ===
Name: Bledri Latimer ap Cydifor Fawr
Sex: M
Birth: ABT 1085 in Castell Cilsant, St Clears, Dyfed, Cymru
Death: BEF 1134
Person Id: I49686
Tree Id: 101099
Parents
Father:
Cydifor Fawr ap Gollwyn: Birth: ABT 1045 in Blaen Cuch, Gogledd Dyfed, Cymru. Death: 1089 in Blaen Cuch, Gogledd Dyfed, Cymru
Mother:
Elinor ferch Llwch Llawen Fawr: Birth: ABT 1060 in Castell Cilsant, Dyfed, Cymru.
Family
Marriage:
Married: Clydwen ferch Gruffudd.
Clydwen ferch Gruffudd: Birth: ABT 1090 in Llangadog-fawr, Caerfyrddin, Ystrad Tywi, Cymru.
Children:
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Rhys ap Bledri Latimer: Birth: in Castell Cilsant, St Clears, Dyfed, Cymru.
https://wc.rootsweb.com/trees/101099/I49686/-/individual
=== G T Clark: The Genealogies of Glamorgan ===
G T Clark: The Genealogies of Glamorgan P. 310
=== !#4568-v2-p83 ===
!#4568-v2-p83
=== Lord of Kil y Sant, Carmarthenshire, Wal ===
Lord of Kil y Sant, Carmarthenshire, Wales (WFT Vol. 15, tree # 2288) Third son of Cadivor-fawr (History of the Family Morgan)
Preferred Parents:
Father: Bledri ap Cydsidor Fawr, B aron of, b. 995 in Blaen Cuch, Cenarth, Carmarthenshire, Wales d. 1091 in Blaen Cuch, North Dyfed, Wales
Mother: Clydwen verch Gruffydd, b. ABT 1029 in Blaen Cych, Dyfed, now Pembrokeshire, Wales d. 1089 in Wales
Family 1: Angharad Verch Llywelyn, b. 1120 in Carmarthen, Carmarthenshire, Wales d. ABT 1161 in Wales
- m. ABT 1086 in Powys, Montgomeryshire, Wales
- Bledri Latimer ap Bledri, b. ABT 1095
- Rhys ap Bledri ap Cadifor Fawr,
- Gwenllian Ferch Rhys, b. in Cardiganshire, Wales d. ABT 1200
Sources:
- Title: Legacy NFS Source: Bledri "Latimer" ap Cydifor -
Author: GEDCOM File : Claude and Marilyn - Revised.ged, Claude Jones
Note: 6556 w 10380 n
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801-768-2992
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- Title: Legacy NFS Source: Bledri "Latimer" ap Cydifor - birth-name: Latimer Cydifor Bledri
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birth-name: Latimer Cydifor Bledri
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