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Guy le Strange
- Preferred Name: Guy le Strange[1] [2] [3] [4] [5] [6] [7] [8]
- Gender: M
- FSID: L5TF-642
- Birth: ABT 1048 in Norfolk, England
- http://familysearch.org/v1/TitleOfNobility: Lord of the Manor, Weston & Alveley in England with note: Source is Le Strange Records.
- Fact: with note: Description: https://www.geni.com/people/Warin-Le-Sh%C3%A9rif-de-Metz/6000000050372884925
- Burial: 1105 in London, Middlesex, England
- Fact: with note: Description: https://www.geni.com/people/Guy-leStrange-I/6000000003495393273?through=6000000006404999090
- Death: ABT 1105 in London, Middlesex, England
- Fact: with note: Description: https://www.geni.com/people/Warin-de-Metz-I/6000000001231367219?through=6000000014641777635
- Fact: with note: Description: https://www.geni.com/people/Guy-leStrange-I/6000000003495393273#/tab/overview
- http://familysearch.org/v1/TitleOfNobility: Lord of the Manor, Osbaston (Knockin) in Knockin in Oswestry, Shropshire, England at LATI: N2.7965 LONG: E2.9954 with note: Source is Le Strange Records, which shows Guy inherited Knockin from his brother Hamo.
- Source+URL: with note: Description: https://www.geni.com/people/Guy-leStrange-I/6000000003495393273
- Fact: with note: Description: https://www.geni.com/people/Warin-Le-Sh%C3%A9rif-de-Metz/6000000050372884925?through=6000000000376214988
- Occupation: Sheriff of Metz
- Notes:
=== Life Sketch ===
Excerpt from the le Strange Records: a cronicle of the early Le Stranges of Norfolk and the Marches of Wales A.D. 1100 - 1310; by Hamon Le Strange, Published 1916.
GUY le STRANGE
Period 1135-1178
Roland le Strange, who witnessed the St. Florent Charter circa 1122, left four sons, viz. (i) John, who succeeded him; (2) Hamon; (3) Guy, and (4) Ralph. As far as is known at this time Roland possessed no property elsewhere than in Norfolk; yet, early in the reign of Henry II, we find that at least three of his sons were enfeoffed of land in Shropshire, though, curiously enough, the eldest brother was the last to receive a grant there, perhaps because he already held five knights' fees of old feoffment in Norfolk under William, Earl of Arundel.
The Pipe Roll for the first year of Henry II is lost ; the earliest entry relating to a le Strange is as follows: 2 Hen. II. [A.D. 1155]. SALOPESCIRA. Willelmus films Alani reddit compotum de firma de . . .In terris datis . . . Widoni Extraneo C. et x. s.
The "terra data" were lands granted by the King to private individuals out of the royal domain in the county; and, as the profits of such lands were no longer received by the Sheriff, he was allowed for them when rendering his account at the Exchequer. The above entry, therefore, shows that, in or before 1155, Guy le Strange had had a grant from the King of some manor, allowance for which was made to the Sheriff, William fitz Alan. A similar entry appears in the Rolls for 1156 and 1157. The name of the manor held by Guy does not appear in the Pipe Roll, but, fortunately, the original grant itself, showing that it was the manor of Alveley in Shropshire, has survived, and is preserved in the British Museum.
On the death of William fitz Alan (I), about Easter 1160 Guy le Strange had been appointed to succeed him as Sheriff of Shropshire, and further had the valuable and important custody of his barony during the long minority of his son. Guy held the shrievalty until 1165, when the Pipe Rolls show that the office was transferred to Geoffrey de Vere, probably because he had married Isabel de Say, widow of William fitz Alan, who had carried to her new husband, as her dower, nearly a third of the fitz Alan estates. On the death of de Vere in 1170 Guy le Strange was reinstated in the shrievalty, and continued to hold it for the rest of his life.
Advancing years, and the piety or superstition of the age, had the usual effect of inducing the owner of numerous fiefs to make liberal eleemosynary grants. John le Strange (I) made two grants out of his Norfolk inheritance, viz. his grant of six acres of land at Litcham to the monks of Castleacre, and that of his maternal fief of Edgefield to Binham Priory. His donations in Shropshire were nearly, if not quite all of them, made to the Augustinian Abbey of Haughmond, three miles east of Shrewsbury, which had been founded and endowed by his great friend, William fitz Alan (I). Before the year 1172 John had made three grants to that abbey viz. (1) the advowson of the church of Cheswardine, of which Eyton has printed the original grant from the Haughmond Chartulary; (2) the mill of Middle; and (3) the mill of Ruyton; these three grants were all included in a Bull of Confirmation by Pope Alexander III, dated May 14, 1172.
The Haughmond Chartulary, quoted by Eyton, records that the advowson of the church of St. Mary at Hunstanton was also given to the same Shropshire Abbey, the grant being attested by the abbots of Wigmore and Buildwas, and by John le Strange, a canon; it was confirmed by Henry II, along with many other grants, in a charter passed by that king at Shrewsbury towards the close of the year 1176. Eyton cites a deed made by William fitz Alan (II) on his coming of age, which is particularly useful as establishing the relationship of several le Stranges at this period, inasmuch as it is tested by no less than five members of the family; it is a grant to Buildwas Abbey, of about 1175, confirming a previous donation made by the grantor's father; among the witnesses are John le Strange (I) and John (II) his son; and Wido (Guy) le Strange Sr, brother of John (I) and his sons Wido (Guy) Jr and Hamo. A fine seal, with the effigy of a knight on horseback, of which Eyton gives an engraving, is attached to this document.
The last eleemosynary grant of John le Strange (I) which has come down to us is one giving half a virgate in Webscott, a member of the manor of Middle, to Haughmond Abbey. It is of especial importance, as being the only one in which he mentions the name of his wife. The offering is stated to be for the soul of Hawise, the grantor's wife; it was attested by William son of William fitz Alan, Guy his brother, Ralph his son, Hugh le Strange and others.
Eyton writes: It is probable that this grant was made on the death of his (John (I)'s said wife, which will have shortly preceded his own death. The latter event took place in 1177-78. At Michaelmas 1178 Guy le Strange, Sheriff of Shropshire, had in hand the reputed issues of Ness and Cheswardine, obviously because his brother's son had not obtained livery, but before Michaelmas 1179 he had handed over the sum to "John (II) son of John le Strange (I)".
Guy did not long survive his elder brother John, with whom he had been so closely associated through life; John, as we have seen, died before Michaelmas 1178, and Guy must have followed him in little more than a year. Eyton thinks that Mary, widow of Guy, cannot have been the mother of all his children, as she had two other husbands before she married Guy, and was still living in 1186, being then only forty years of age. Part of her dower was derived from North Runcton in Norfolk, which she held of the fief of Warren of Wormegay: this must have been from one of her previous husbands, as Guy le Strange held no lands there at this time. Mention has already been made of four sons of Guy, who have appeared as attesting witnesses, viz. Ralph, Guy, Hamon, and perhaps Roger.
Guy and Hamon must have died two or three years before their father, though we have seen that they were living and attested fitz Alan's grant to Buildwas, c. 1175. Besides these sons Guy le Strange left three daughters, Margaret, Joan or Juliana, and Matilda, who eventually became co-heiresses to their brother Ralph.
=== https://www.geni.com/people/Guy-leStrange-I/6000000003495393273 ===
https://www.geni.com/people/Guy-leStrange-I/6000000003495393273
=== Birth place Weston And Of Alveley, Shrop ===
Birth place Weston And Of Alveley, Shrops., England
=== Sheriff to Roger de Montgomery of Shrews ===
Sheriff to Roger de Montgomery of Shrewsbury
=== SORLEY'S PEDIGREES (GS NUMBER Q929.242 S ===
SORLEY'S PEDIGREES (GS NUMBER Q929.242 SO68) P.16, 34; ANCESTRAL FILE, LDS GENEALOGICAL SOCIETY;
Also known as Sir DeWallense (Wallace). Surname is sometimes listed as Le Strange
=== !Sir Bernard Burke's Dormant & Extinct P ===
!Sir Bernard Burke's Dormant & Extinct Peerage 615-516; !Sir Bernard Burke's Dormant & Extinct Peerage p.261-262-515,Margaret the eldest daughter;
Preferred Parents:
Father: Hoel Count of Conrouaille, b. 1022 in Cornouaille, Ille-et-Vilaine, Bretagne, France d. 13 APR 1084 in Bouches-du-Rhône, France
Mother: Hawise de Bretagne Duchess of Brittany, b. ABT 1027 in Rennes, Brittany, France d. 19 AUG 1072 in Rennes, Brittany, France
Family 1: Mellette Peverel, b. ABT 1055 in Nottingham, Nottinghamshire, England d. ABT 1100
- Galeius Walense Le'Strange, b. 1068 in Clackmannan, Ayrshire, Scotland d. 1118 in Ayrshire, Scotland
Sources:
- Title: Le STRANGE - Baronetage by William Dugdale
Publication: Name: https://www.familysearch.org/photos/artifacts/55321912;
Note: The baronage of England, or, An historical account of the lives and most memorable actions of our English nobility in the Saxons time to the Norman conquest, and from thence, of those who had their rise before the end of King Henry the Third's reign deduced from publick records, antient historians, and other authorities
Dugdale, William, Sir, 1605-1686.
Online URL: https://quod.lib.umich.edu/cgi/t/text/text-idx?c=eebo;idno=A36794.0001.001
- Title: EOL DeWallense Muras, 'MyHeritage Family Trees'
Author: MyHeritage Family Trees MyHeritage.com [online database], MyHeritage Ltd. Wallace Web Site, managed by Michael Wallace
Publication: Name: https://www.myheritage.com/research/record-1-406911951-2-32744/eol-dewallense-muras-in-myheritage-family-trees;
Note: Eol Dewallense Muras
Husband: Fnu Dewallense Muras
Son: Sir Dewallense Muras
- Title: , 'MyHeritage Family Trees'
Author: MyHeritage Family Trees MyHeritage.com [online database], MyHeritage Ltd. Webster, managed by Frank Webster
Publication: Name: https://www.myheritage.com/research/record-1-1249552422-3-129151/myheritage-family-trees;
Note: Unknown De Wallense
Birth: 1030 - Normandy, France
Death: Riccarton, Ayrshire, Scotland
Father: Unknown Dewallense Muras
Son: Guy Wallace
- Title: , 'MyHeritage Family Trees'
Author: MyHeritage Family Trees MyHeritage.com [online database], MyHeritage Ltd. Webster, managed by Frank Webster
Publication: Name: https://www.myheritage.com/research/record-1-1249552422-3-129152/myheritage-family-trees;
Note: Unknown Dewallense Muras
Birth: 1010 - Normandy, France
Son: Unknown De Wallense
- Title: , 'MyHeritage Family Trees'
Author: MyHeritage Family Trees MyHeritage.com [online database], MyHeritage Ltd. Wallace Web Site, managed by Jarrett Griffin
Publication: Name: https://www.myheritage.com/research/record-1-382088661-2-17951/myheritage-family-trees;
Note: Unknown Dewallense Muras
Birth: 1010 - Normandie, France
Death: France
Son: Sir Dewallense Muras
- Title: FNU DeWallense Muras, 'MyHeritage Family Trees'
Author: MyHeritage Family Trees MyHeritage.com [online database], MyHeritage Ltd. Wallace Web Site, managed by Michael Wallace
Publication: Name: https://www.myheritage.com/research/record-1-406911951-2-32743/fnu-dewallense-muras-in-myheritage-family-trees;
Note: Fnu Dewallense Muras
Birth: 1010 - Normandy, France
Wife: Eol Dewallense Muras
Son: Sir Dewallense Muras
- Title: Web: Netherlands, GenealogieOnline Trees Index, 1000-Current
Publication: Name: http://search.ancestry.com/collections/9289/records/32863459;
- Title: Visitation of Leicester 1619 NOEL pedigree
Publication: Name: https://www.familysearch.org/photos/artifacts/52667609;
Note: pp 113-114 NOEL pedigree
Page: Record of Guy Strange of Comm. Salop father of Margaret Le Strange married Thomas Noel.
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