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Olive de Penthièvre
- Preferred Name: Olive de Penthièvre[1]
- Gender: F
- Death: BEF 1187
- Olive de Bretagne had two husbands: Her first was Henry de Fougeres and her second was William de S: with note: Historical and family records.
- Birth: 1096 in Penthièvre, Morbihan, Bretagne, France at LATI: N7.5554 LONG: E3.1344
- FSID: LYKN-RZG
- Notes:
=== Life Sketch ===
“Royal Ancestry: A Study in Colonial & Medieval Families,” Douglas Richardson (2013):
“HENRI DE FOUGÈRES, seigneur of Fougères (in Brittany), 3rd son. He married OLIVE OF BRITTANY, daughter of Stephen (or Étienne), Count of Brittany, lord of Richmond, by his wife, Hawise [see RICHMOND 4 for her ancestry]. Her maritagium included the manor of Long Bennington, Lincolnshire. They had four sons, Raoul [II], Fransgalon, Guillaume, and Robert, and one daughter, Clemence (wife of Robert de Montfort). By his wife or an unknown mistress, he also had one son, Guillaume l'Angevin. He was heir in 1124 to his older brother, Fransgalon de Fougères, seigneur of Fougères. In the summer of 1150 HENRI DE FOUGÈRES, then a dying man, he became a monk at Savigny Abbey. His widow, Olive, married (2nd) before 1162 WILLIAM DE SAINT JOHN, of Halnaker, Sussex, son and heir of Roger de Saint John, of Halnaker, Sussex, by Cecily, daughter of Robert de la Haie. They had no issue. He farmed the vicomte of Coutances for over 40 years. In 1162 he and his wife, Olive, and his brother, Robert, executed a charter for the abbey of La Luzerne. He was in frequent attendance on the king in Normandy between 1166 and 1172. In 1170 he was one of the tutors for Young King Henry. In 1172 the abbot and convent of Le Mont-Saint-Michel granted him the forestership of Bevais Forest. His wife, Olive, was living in 1174. In 1174-5 he confirmed his father's grant to Lewes Priory. He married (2nd) before 1187 GODEHEUT ___. In 1189 he accompanied King Richard I to England for his coronation. WILLIAM DE SAINT JOHN died between Michaelmas 1201 and Michaelmas 1202.
Morice Histoire Ecclesiastique et Civil de Bretagne 1 (1750): xvii-xviii (Counts of Penthievre ped). C.P. 10 (1945): 780 (chart), 786-787 (sub Richmond); 11 (1949): 343-344 (sub Saint John). Keats-Rohan Domesday Descendants (2002): 244, 461-462, 691. Power Norman Frontier in the Twelfth and Early Thirteenth Cents. (2004): 499 (Fougères ped.).”
BIO
BIO: from http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/BRITTANY.htm#OlivePenthievreM1HenriPenthievredied1154 as of 1/18/2016
OLIVE de Penthièvre . "Radulfus Filgeriensis dominus" founded Rillé abbey, confirming
=== !Ancestral Roots by Weis, Seventh Editio ===
!Ancestral Roots by Weis, Seventh Edition L 214-25
=== Her father gave her Long Bennington, Lin ===
Her father gave her Long Bennington, Lincolnshire.
=== William [de St. John] married, 1stly, in ===
William [de St. John] married, 1stly, in or after 1150 and before 1162, Olive, daughter of COUNT STEPHEN OF BRITTANY, LORD OF RICHMOND, and widow of Henry DE FOUGÈRES; and 2ndly, Godeheut, whose parentage is unknown. He died s.p. between Michaelmas 1201 and Michaelmas 1202, and was succeeded by his great-nephew William DE PORT, afterwards William DE ST. JOHN. [Complete Peerage XI;343-4, transcribed by Dave Utzinger)]
=== REF: Weis, Ancestral Roots 214A-25. Her ===
REF: Weis, Ancestral Roots 214A-25. Her father gave her Long Bennington, co. Lincoln.
=== !Olive md 1) Henry I Baron de fougeres d ===
!Olive md 1) Henry I Baron de fougeres d. 1154 & 2) William de St. John.
=== Henri de Fougeres He was the son of Rao ===
Henri de Fougeres He was the son of Raoul de Fougeres and Avoye FitzRichard de Clare. He married Olive de Penthievre.
Olive de Penthievre She was the daughter of . Etienne de Penthievre and Hawise Quingampe.
Child of Henri de Fougeres and Olive de Penthievre is:
4 i. Raoul de Fougeres, married Jeanne de Dol.
http://www.homeofourfathers.com/lisbeth/ahnentafelgeoffroidefougeres.htm
=== SORLEY'S PEDIGREES (GS NUMBER Q929.242 S ===
SORLEY'S PEDIGREES (GS NUMBER Q929.242 SO68) P.14, 20, 22; THE PLANTAGENET ANCESTRY (GS NUMBER Q940 D2T) P.82, 188; ROYAL ANCESTORS OF MAGNA CHARTA BARONS, P.50;
=== == Biography == ===
== Biography ==
Remarried to [[St_John-625|William St John]], by 1162, and was still alive in 1174.
== Notes ==ABBEY OF THE HOLY TRINITY, LA LUZERNE, FOR PREMONSTRATENSIAN CANONS, IN THE DIOCESE OF AVRANCHES. ["La Manche: Part 2," in Calendar of Documents Preserved in France 918-1206, ed. J Horace Round (London: HerMajesty's Stationery Office, 1899), 281-308. British History Online, accessed April 28, 2017, [http://www.british-history.ac.uk/cal-state-papers/france/918-1206/pp281-308].]
:1162: "Charter of [[St_John-625|William de Sancto Johanne]], Robert his brother and [[Bretagne-98|Olive]] his wife."
:1174: "Charter of [[Bretagne-98|Olive]] daughter of count [[Bretagne-99|Stephen]] [of Britanny] notifying that with unanimous consent (concedentibus) of [[St_John-625|William de Sancto Johanne]] her husband and [[Fougères-15|Ralf de Filgeriis]] and her other sons, ..." "... Hujus etiam donationis testes sunt: [[St_John-625|Guillelmus de Sancto Johanne]] maritus meus; ..."
:1174?: "Charter of [[St_John-625|William de Sancto Johanne]], ... by consent of [[Bretagne-98|Olive]] his wife, ... He and [[Bretagne-98|Olive]] his wife retain thence forth nothing in that church, but give and grant all their rights there to the abbey of Savigny. And [[Fougères-15|Ralf de Filgeriis]], son of his wife [[Bretagne-98|Olive]], has given the church to the abbey in alms for ever."
== Sources ==
* FMG: OLIVE de Penthièvre . m firstly HENRI [I] Seigneur de Fougères, son of RAOUL [I] Seigneur de Fougères & his wife --- (-1154). He became a monk at Sauvigny in 1150[345]. m secondly as his first wife,GUILLAUME Seigneur de Saint-Jean, son of ROGER de Saint-Jean & his wife Cecilia de la Haye (-[Sep 1201/Sep 1202]). [http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/brittcope.htm#OlivePenthievreM1HenriPenthievredied1154]
Preferred Parents:
Father: Etienne de Bretagne Lord of Richmond, b. ABT 1056 in Penthièvre, Morbihan, Brittany, France d. 21 APR 1136 in York, Yorkshire, England
Mother: Havoise de Guingamp Comtesse de Guingamp et de Sourdeval, b. 29 JAN 1064 in Guingamp, Bretagne, France d. 21 FEB 1133 in Richmond, Yorkshire, England
Family 1: William de St. John, b. ABT 1126 in of Halnaker, Sussex, England d. BEF 29 SEP 1202 in Halnaker, Sussex, England
Family 2: Henri de Fougères I, b. ABT 1087 in Fougères, Ille-et-Vilaine, Brittany, France d. 1154 in France
- Frangal de Fougères - Countess of Bretagne, b. 1135 in Ille-et-Vilaine, Bretagne, France d. 1175 in Oise, Picardie, France
- Raoul de Fougeres II, b. 1128 in Fougeres, Ille-et-Vilaine, Bretagne, France d. 15 de junho de 1194 in Savigny, Nièvre, Bourgogne, França
Family 3: Geoffrey de Dinan, b. ABT 1085
- Alain de Dinan, b. ABT 1100 in Dinan, Finistère, Bretagne, France d. ABT 1150 in Dinan, Finistère, Bretagne, France
Sources:
- Title: The Medieval Lands Project, "OLIVE de Penthièvre"
Author: fmg.ac
Note: OLIVE de Penthièvre . "Radulfus Filgeriensis dominus" founded Rillé abbey, confirming donations made by "Aufredus de Filgeriis et Maino proavus meus et Aaledis uxor sua et Radulfus avus meus...Henricus pater meus" to Fougères, with the consent of “fratribus meis Frangalo et Guillermo”, by undated charter, which also records a donation made by “Oliva mater mea”[417]. Her two marriages are confirmed by the charter dated 1174 under which "Olive daughter of Count Stephen" donated the church of Bennington to the abbey of Sauvigny, with the consent of "Guillelmus de Sancto Johanne maritus meus and Ralf de Filgeriis and her other sons"[418]. Henry II King of England confirmed the possessions of the abbey of Lessai, including donations by "Willelmus de Sancto Johanne et Robertus frater eius et Oliva uxor Willelmi", by charter dated [1185/Jan 1188][419]. m firstly HENRI [I] Seigneur de Fougères, son of RAOUL [I] Seigneur de Fougères & his wife --- (-1154). He became a monk at Sauvigny in 1150[420]. m secondly as his first wife, GUILLAUME Seigneur de Saint-Jean, son of ROGER de Saint-Jean & his wife Cecilia de la Haye (-[Sep 1201/Sep 1202]).
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