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Fulke de Paganel Baron of Dudley
- Preferred Name: Fulke de Paganel Baron of Dudley[1] [2]
- Gender: M
- DE+PAGANELL+FAMILY+THE+SAME+AS+DE+PAYNELL+FAMILY: with note: Description: De Paganell, Paganell, de Paynell, and Paynell all appear to be different names for the same family, Perhaps an Anglo-Saxon version of a Norman name.
The Foundation for Medieval Genealogy identifies one of the wives of Robert de Brus as 'Agnes Paynell', the daughter of Fulk Paynell who it also identifies as "Fulcodius Paganellus" "Fulk Paynel of Dudley" and "Fulcoius Paenell". Scot's Peerage identifies the 1st wife of Robert De Brus as "Agnes, daughter of Foulk de Paganell"; One of Robert's sons is also identified as "Pagan de Brus" named no doubt in honor of his 1st wife.
https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/enguntps.htm#AgnesPaynellMRobertIBrus
https://archive.org/details/scotspeeragefoun02pauluoft/page/429/mode/1up
- Birth: 1073 in Les Mountres Hubert, Normandy, France
- Death: 1138 in Dudley Castle, Warwickshire, England
- Burial: 1138 in Dudley, Metropolitan Borough of Dudley, West Midlands, England at LATI: N2.5096 LONG: E2.0898
- FSID: 9HBX-H19
- Notes:
=== Life Sketch ===
Fulk Paynell was the son of William Paynell of Moûtiers-Hubert & his wife (whose name is not known)
HE IS NOT TO BE CONFUSED WITH "Fulk Paynell of Hambye and Bréhal, Normandy and Drax, Yorkshire" WHO WAS HIS NEPHEW.
Fulk Paynell married Beatrix FitzAnsculf, daughter and heiress of
William FitzAnsculf of Dudley. Through this marriage Fulk acquired the fief of Dudley, Worcestershire.
Fulk and his wife Beatrix had two children:
- Ralph Paynell (died before 1160)
- Agnes Paynell, wife of Robert de Brus.
They may have had a third child as well: William Paynell of Bampton (-before 1166)
It is not known exactly when Fulk Paynell died, sometime after 1129.
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FULK Paynell, son of [WILLIAM Paynell of Moûtiers-Hubert & his wife ---] (-after 1129). Ellis names "William Paynel of Moûtiers-Hubert and Fulk Paynel of Dudley" as the sons of William Paynell Seigneur de Moûtiers-Hubert, without citing the primary sources on which he bases his supposition[143]. Domesday Descendants does not specify his parentage[144]. The 1130 Pipe Roll records "Fulcoius Paenell" paying half a fine relating to his suit against "Rogerum Parlarium" in Staffordshire[145]. “Gervasius Paganellus” donated property to Tykford Priory, with the consent of “uxoris meæ Isabellæ comitissæ de Norhamton”, by charter dated 1187 which names “Fulcodius Paganellus avus meus et Radulfus Paganellus pater meus”[146].
m [BEATRIX, daughter of WILLIAM FitzAnsculf of Dudley & his wife ---]. Domesday Descendants states that Fulk Paynell "acquired the fief of William fitz Ansculf de Picquigny lord of Dudley, Worcestershire, probably by marriage to William’s heiress (?daughter)"[147]. Ellis is more definite, naming "Beatrix, d. and heiress of Will. fitz Ansculph, of Dudley" as the wife of Fulk Paynell, without citing the primary sources on which he bases his supposition[148]. Grazebrook comments that "it has…been suggested, and I think with great probability" that Fulk Paynell acquired the lordship of Dudley "by marriage with Fitz Ansculph’s heiress"[149]. This last quote indicates that the connection is speculative and is not based on any primary source. Until more information comes to light, this supposed wife of Fulk is shown in square brackets.
Fulk & his wife had [two] children:
1. RALPH Paynell (-before [1160]). ["…Rad Paganell…" witnessed the charter dated [Jul 1141/Dec 1142] under which Empress Matilda permitted "Milon com Heref" to hold the castle and honour of Abergavenny, from "Bri fil com et Matild de Walengeford uxor sue"[150]. "…Radulfo Paganello…" witnessed the charter dated to [1142/46] under which "M. imperatrix, Henrici regis filia et Anglorum domina et Henricus filius comitis Andegavie" confirmed the rights of "Unfrido de Buhun" in the lands he held on the death of her father[151]. It is not known whether these charters refer to Ralph son of Fulk Paynell.] “Gervasius Paganellus” donated property to Tykford Priory, with the consent of “uxoris meæ Isabellæ comitissæ de Norhamton”, by charter dated 1187 which names “Fulcodius Paganellus avus meus et Radulfus Paganellus pater meus”[152]. m ---. The name of Ralph’s wife is not known. Ralph & his wife had two children:
a) GERVASE Paynell (-before Sep 1194). “G. Painel”, considering the proposal of “Radulfi Painel patris mei”, founded Dudley priory, for the salvation of “Isabellæ uxoris meæ et Roberti filii mei”, by undated charter (dated by Dugdale to "before 1161"), witnessed by "…Radulpho de Sumeri…"[153]. Military fee certifications in the Red Book of the Exchequer, in 1166, record the knights fees held from "Gervasius Paganellus" in Staffordshire[154]. The Red Book of the Exchequer refers to "Gervasius Paganellus i m" in Staffordshire in [1167/68][155]. The Red Book of the Exchequer records enfeoffments in the duchy of Normandy in [1172], "Gervasius Paganellus" with one knight "de baillia de Basseis" and four knights in his own service[156]. “Gervasius Paganellus” donated property to Tykford Priory, with the consent of “uxoris meæ Isabellæ comitissæ de Norhamton”, by charter dated 1187 which names “Fulcodius Paganellus avus meus et Radulfus Paganellus pater meus”, witnessed by “Simone comite Northamptoniæ, Isabella comitissa matre eius…Fulcone Paganello, Wilielmo fratre eius…Wilielmo Paganello et Bernardo filio eius…”[157]. Baron of Dudley, Worcestershire. The Red Book of the Exchequer, listing scutage payments in [1190/91], records "Gervasius Paganellus" paying "lxxix s ii d" in Buckinghamshire, Bedfordshire and "xxv l, i milites" in Staffordshire[158]. “Fulcodius Paganellus” donated property to Tykford Priory by undated charter, witnessed by “Gervasius Paganellus et uxor eius comitissa Isabella et Robertus Paganellus eorum filius, et Willielmus Paganellus prædicti Fulcodii frater…”[159]. The Red Book of the Exchequer, listing scutage payments in [1194/95], records "de his qui non habent capitales honores…Gervasii Paganelli" paying "xx s" in Oxfordshire and in Buckinghamshire, Bedforshire[160]. m (after 1153) as her second husband, ISABELLE de Beaumont, widow of SIMON de Senlis Earl of Huntingdon, daughter of ROBERT de Beaumont Earl of Leicester & his wife Amicie de Gaël . Robert of Torigny refers to the wife of "Symone comite Huntedoniæ" as "filia Roberti comitis Legecestriæ" but does not name her[161]. Her second marriage is confirmed by charter dated 1187 under which “Gervasius Paganellus” donated property to Tykford Priory, with the consent of “uxoris meæ Isabellæ comitissæ de Norhamton”, which names “Fulcodius Paganellus avus meus et Radulfus Paganellus pater meus”, witnessed by “Simone comite Northamptoniæ, Isabella comitissa matre eius”[162]. “G. Painel”, considering the proposal of “Radulfi Painel patris mei”, founded Dudley priory, for the salvation of “Isabellæ uxoris meæ et Roberti filii mei”, by undated charter (dated by Dugdale to "before 1161")[163]. “Fulcodius Paganellus” donated property to Tykford Priory by undated charter, witnessed by “Gervasius Paganellus et uxor eius comitissa Isabella et Robertus Paganellus eorum filius, et Willielmus Paganellus prædicti Fulcodii frater…”[164]. Gervase & his wife had one child:
i) ROBERT Paynell (-before 1194). “G. Painel”, considering the proposal of “Radulfi Painel patris mei”, founded Dudley priory, for the salvation of “Isabellæ uxoris meæ et Roberti filii mei”, by undated charter (dated by Dugdale to "before 1161")[165]. “Fulcodius Paganellus” donated property to Tykford Priory by undated charter, witnessed by “Gervasius Paganellus et uxor eius comitissa Isabella et Robertus Paganellus eorum filius, et Willielmus Paganellus prædicti Fulcodii frater…”[166].
b) HAWISE Paynell (-after 1210). “Hawys Paganella” confirmed donations to Tykford Priory by "Johannes de Sumeri vir meus" by undated charter, witnessed by “Radulfo de Sumeri filio meo”[167]. Smyth records that Roger paid a fine to marry "Hawisia mother of Raph de Somery" in [1196/97][168]. “Hawis Paynel” donated property to Tykford Priory, with the consent of “domini mei Rogeri de Berkele”, for the soul of “Gervasii Paynel fratris mei”, by undated charter[169]. Hawise must have survived her son Ralph [II] de Somery, as shown by a plea in Staffordshire dated 1240 which records that certain land was inherited from "Gervasio Paenel cuidam Hawisie sorori et heredi", and passed from her to her grandsons: "…de iste Radulpho cuidam Willelmi et fratri et heredi, et de Willelmo cuidam Nicholao…filii et heredi, et de Nicholao isti Rogero ut avunculo quia non habuit heredem de corpore sua"[170]. m firstly JOHN de Somery, son of --- (-[1191/92]). m secondly ([1196/97]) ROGER de Berkeley, son of NICHOLAS de Berkeley & his wife Alice [de Teckenham] (-1230).
2. [AGNES Paynell (-18 Nov ----). The manuscript history of the Bruce family of Carleton records that “primus Brus de Carleton…Robertus de Brus” married “Agnetam filiam Fulconis Paynell” and received “manerium de Carleton” from his father-in-law[171]. The primary source which confirms that Agnes’s father was Fulk Paynell of Staffordshire has not yet been identified. “Robertus de Brus…Agnes uxor mea, filiusque noster Adam de Brus” donated property to Middlesburgh priory by undated charter[172]. “Robertus de Brus…et Agnes uxor mea et Adam filius noster” founded Gisburne Priory, Yorkshire by undated charter[173]. The 1155 Pipe Roll records "Agnes de Bruis…p filio suo"[174]. A charter of King Henry II, dated to [1176/86], confirmed donations to the canons of Gisburne, among which a donation by “Agnetis uxoris Roberti de Brus”[175]. The obituary of Gisburne priory records the death “XIV Kal Dec” of "Agnetis Brus uxoris fundatoris nostri"[176]. m ROBERT [I] de Brus, son of --- (-11 May 1141, bur Gisburne Priory).]
http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/enguntps.htm#FulkPaynelldiedafter1129B
Preferred Parents:
Father: Guilluame Paganel seigneur des Moutiers et de Hambye, b. 14 OCT 1025 in Les Moutiers-Hubert, Calvados, Normandy, France d. 9 SEP 1087 in Hambye, Manche, Normandy, France
Mother: Lesceline de Fontenay, b. ABT 1025 in Sabran, Gard, Languedoc-Roussillon, France d. ABT 1085 in Normandy, France
Family 1: Beatrice fitz Ausculph of Dudley Castle, b. ABT 1059 in Dudley Castle, Dudley, West Midlands, England, United Kingdom d. ABT 1142 in Dudley, West Midlands, England, United Kingdom
- William de Paynel of Bampton, b. ABT 1098 in Dudley, Worcestershire, England d. ABT 1165 in Bampton, Devon, England
- Ralph de Paganel Lord of Dudley, b. 1105 in Warwickshire, England d. 1153 in Dudley, Worcestershire, England
Family 2: Matilda de Sourdeval,
Sources:
- Title: Copy of Agnes Paynell dgtr Fulk Paynell - Foundation for Medieval Genealogy
Publication: Name: https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/enguntps.htm#AgnesPaynellMRobertIBrus;
Note: FULK Paynell, son of [WILLIAM Paynell of Moûtiers-Hubert & his wife ---] (-after 1129). Ellis names "William Paynel of Moûtiers-Hubert and Fulk Paynel of Dudley" as the sons of William Paynell Seigneur de Moûtiers-Hubert, without citing the primary sources on which he bases his supposition[143]. Domesday Descendants does not specify his parentage[144]. The 1130 Pipe Roll records "Fulcoius Paenell" paying half a fine relating to his suit against "Rogerum Parlarium" in Staffordshire[145]. “Gervasius Paganellus” donated property to Tykford Priory, with the consent of “uxoris meæ Isabellæ comitissæ de Norhamton”, by charter dated 1187 which names “Fulcodius Paganellus avus meus et Radulfus Paganellus pater meus”[146].
m [BEATRIX, daughter of WILLIAM FitzAnsculf of Dudley & his wife ---]. Domesday Descendants states that Fulk Paynell "acquired the fief of William fitz Ansculf de Picquigny lord of Dudley, Worcestershire, probably by marriage to William’s heiress (?daughter)"[147]. Ellis is more definite, naming "Beatrix, d. and heiress of Will. fitz Ansculph, of Dudley" as the wife of Fulk Paynell, without citing the primary sources on which he bases his supposition[148]. Grazebrook comments that "it has…been suggested, and I think with great probability" that Fulk Paynell acquired the lordship of Dudley "by marriage with Fitz Ansculph’s heiress"[149]. This last quote indicates that the connection is speculative and is not based on any primary source. Until more information comes to light, this supposed wife of Fulk is shown in square brackets.
Fulk & his wife had [two] children:
1. RALPH Paynell (-before [1160]).
2. AGNES Paynell (-18 Nov ----). The manuscript history of the Bruce family of Carleton records that “primus Brus de Carleton…Robertus de Brus” married “Agnetam filiam Fulconis Paynell” and received “manerium de Carleton” from his father-in-law[170]. The primary source which confirms that Agnes’s father was Fulk Paynell of Staffordshire has not yet been identified. “Robertus de Brus…Agnes uxor mea, filiusque noster Adam de Brus” donated property to Middlesburgh priory by undated charter[171]. “Robertus de Brus…et Agnes uxor mea et Adam filius noster” founded Gisburne Priory, Yorkshire by undated charter[172]. The 1155 Pipe Roll records "Agnes de Bruis…p filio suo"[173]. A charter of King Henry II, dated to [1176/86], confirmed donations to the canons of Gisburne, among which a donation by “Agnetis uxoris Roberti de Brus”[174]. The obituary of Gisburne priory records the death “XIV Kal Dec” of "Agnetis Brus uxoris fundatoris nostri"[175]. m ROBERT [I] de Brus, son of --- (-11 May 1141, bur Gisburne Priory).]
Page: Identifies FULK Paynell, son of William Paynell Seigneur de Moûtiers-Hubert; as the brother of William Paynel of Moûtiers-Hubert; as the husband of BEATRIX, daughter of WILLIAM FitzAnsculf of Dudley; as the father of Agnes Paynell, FIRST WIFE of Robert de Brus; also as the father of Ralph Paynell (Rad Paganell); Identifies Fulk by several different names/spellings: "Fulk Paynel of Dudley," "Fulcoius Paenell," and “Fulcodius Paganellus"
- Title: Fulk de Pagnell, "Find A Grave Index"
Author: "Find A Grave Index," database, FamilySearch (https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QK1V-KXMV : 7 August 2020), Fulk de Pagnell, ; Burial, Dudley, Metropolitan Borough of Dudley, West Midlands, England, Dudley Castle Crypt; citing record ID 143749541, Find a Grave, http://www.findagrave.com.
Publication: Name: https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QK1V-KXMV;
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