Gilbert de Neville I

• Preferred Name: Gilbert de Neville I^{[1] [2] [3] [4] [5] [6] [7] [8] [9] [10] [11] [12] [13]}
  
• Alternate Name: Gilbert de Neuville
  
• Alternate Name: Gilbert de Nevill
  
• Gender: M
  
• http://familysearch.org/v1/TitleOfNobility: Admiral
  
• Fact: with note: Description: https://www.geni.com/people/Gilbert-de-Neville/6000000002302694490?through=6000000007337733432
  
• Title (Nobility): with note: Description: Duke of Néville
  
• Alt. Birth: 1049 in Néville, Seine-Maritime, Haute-Normandie, France at LATI: N9.8262 LONG: E0.7154
  
• Death: 1135 in Durham, Durham, England at LATI: N4.7764 LONG: E1.5757
  
• Title (Nobility): with note: Description: 3rd Duke of Sutton
  
• FSID: GSG1-WTF
  
• Birth: ABT 1050 in Néville-sur-Mer, Manche, Lower Normandy, France at LATI: N9.692 LONG: E1.3384
  
• Title (Nobility): with note: Description: Sir Knight
  
• Burial: in Staindrop, Durham, England, United Kingdom at LATI: N4.5806 LONG: E1.8015
  
• Nickname:
  
• Find A Grave: with note: Description: https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/161174700/gilbert-de_neville
  
• Fact: with note: Description: https://www.geni.com/people/Sir-Gilbert-de-Neville-kt/6000000002135054418?through=6000000026717156306
  
• MilitaryService: as Admiral to William the Conqueror
  
• Notes:

  === Life Sketch ===
  1066 - Battle of Hastings
  
  ...held in the year 1086 carucates (a carucate was an area of land that could be cultivated by an eight-ox plough team throughout a single year) at Waltcot, Lincolnshire and Yawthorpe, together with others in that part of England by 1115-18; kinship is plausible but has not been proven with [son Geoffrey]. [Burke's Peerage]
  
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  GILBERT, identified as Gilbert DE NEVILLE, in 1086 held in Lincs a carucate, &, at Walcot near Folkingham, and another at Yawthorpe, of the Abbot of Peterborough. Presumably the same Gilbert, about 1115-18, held of Peterborough in Lincs 2 carucates for 2 hides, and found one knight; of the Bishop of Lincoln land in Scothern, Reepham, &c.; and in Middle Rasen and elsewhere of Manasser Arsic. [Complete Peerage IX:491, transcribed by Dave Utzinger]
  
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  The e-mail from Dennis Theriot indicates that many people feel that Gilbert's supposed role as William the Conqueror's Admiral of the Fleet is more legendary/contrived than historical:
  
  Charles R Young recently wrote a book called "The Making of the Neville Family, 1166-1400, The Boydell Press, 1996. To quote him: "The first of the Nevilles to emerge from obscurity was Alan, who became notorious as a justice of the forest under King Henry II after conducting the first comprehensive forest eyre in 1166.
  
  However, the family was not new to England. Alan's ancestry can be traced to Gilbert de Neville listed in the Domesday Book in 1086 as holding Walcot in Lincolnshire from Peterborough Abbey. Another Neville named Ralph who also held land from the abbey may have been Gilbert's brother and was certainly the ancestor of a related branch of the family. Through connections with Peterborough Abbey and lands in Normandy the family can be shown to have originated from a place in the duchy called Neville from which the surname was derived.
  
  In 1125 both Gilbert and Ralph continued to hold lands in England from the abbey for the service of one knight and one-third of a knight respectively." .... "Gilbert was a minor landholder in Lincolnshire as early as 1086 and into the early twelfth century, but there is no real evidence that he had been the steward of William the Conqueror and prominent at the Battle of Hastings.
  
  This story can be dismissed as the invention of later antiquaries anxious to please members of the Neville family after the family had become prominent and at a time when descent from a companion of the Conqueror carried social prestige."... "The more prosaic reality is that Alan's success as chief justice of the forest under Henry II a century after the conquest was the first step by any member of the family toward royal service and the prominence the family was to obtain in the thirteenth and fourteenth centuries. He set a precedent in royal service that was followed by the next generations of Nevilles who held offical positions under the sons and grandson of King Henry." So much for "The Admiral".
  
  Dennis Theriot
  
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  A reported Companion in arms to William the Conqueror, and by some genealogists, Admiral of the fleet of William the Conqueror.
  
  On the spelling of the surname Neville: The Abergavenny branch reject the final "e", while the Braybroooke branch retain it. For the sake of further distinction, the Grove, Chevet, Holbeck, Skelbrooke and Willingore branchs omit one "L". In the old manuscripts, from "de Nova Villa", we get Neuville, Nevylle, Nevyll, Nevyl, Nevill and Nevil while the Latimers are frequently styled Nevell, but the prevailing form is Nevyll or Nevill.
  
  William the Conqueror was the bastard son of Robert the Devil, Duke of Normandy, and Harlotta (or Arlette) daughter of a tanner of Falaise. Richard de Nova Villa was a cousin of the Conqueror on his maternal side and he left four sons; Gilbert, Robert, Richard and Ralph. From Gilbert de Nevill descends the houses of Westmoreland, Warwick, Latimer and Abergavenny. Gilbert de Nevill is claimed by some to have been the Admiral of the of the Conqueror's fleet, an uncle of Gilbert, Foulk d'Anou furnished 40 ships for the fleet.
  
  The Norman family of Nevill came from Teutonic stock. Baldric Teutonicus was Lord of Bacqueville en Caux under Duke William. He married a niece of Gilbert Compte de Brionne, a grandson of duke Richard I who was regent of Normandy in 1040. The fourth son of Baldric Teutonicus was called Richard de Nova Villa, or de Neuville from his fife in Neuville sur Tocque in the department of the Orne, arrondissement of Argenton, and the canton of Grace. His sister, Hawisia, married Robert Fitz Erneis who was slain at Hastings on October 14, 1066.
  
  Evidently there is some evidence from one of Alan's charters granting some land to Kirkstead Abbey was given in the presence of the bishop of Lincoln and witnessed by Alan's brother Gilbert and Gilberts son Geoffrey. Source: B.L., Cotton Mss., Verpasian EXVIII, f. 159v, Gilbert is identified as his brother by Alan in Harley Charters 58 H4
  
  There is evidently a witness list of one of Gilberts charters that names his two sons William and Walter and includes Alan, son of Ernise
  
  From Jim Weber, Rootsweb
  
  Le Teuton's Familly
  Le Teuton's Familly
  le Teuton's Family
  , Descendency Chart : Sutton-Dudleys de Clonard Courcy, Le Teuton - Neuville - Sutton - Dudley - Sutton de Clonard - De Sotto A.-THE LEGENDARY TIME The Vikings B
  
  The Beginning of the Sutton Lineage
  "The Suttons were Normans in the beginning and before anybody had a surname in the modern sense. It is one of the few names which is practically without variants, although one New England forbearer tr
  
  The Beginning of the Sutton Lineage
  "The Suttons were Normans in the beginning and before anybody had a surname in the modern sense. It is one of the few names which is practically without variants, although one New England forbearer
  
  Le Teuton's Familly
  le Teuton's Family
  , Descendency Chart : Sutton-Dudleys de Clonard Courcy, Le Teuton - Neuville - Sutton - Dudley - Sutton de Clonard - De Sotto A.-THE LEGENDARY TIME The Vikings Became The Normans -
  
  Admiral Gilbert de Neuville
  Admiral Gilbert de Neuville
  Admiral Gilbert de Neuville is considered as founder of de Sutton Norman Saga.
  
  Dukes de Neuville and De Normandy
  Relationships between the Dukes de Neuville and De Normandy (Not exhastive document)
  "Richard de Nova Villa (Neuville) was cousin to the Conqueror on his mother's side. The name and parentage of his w
  
  === Gilbert Novailla de Neville, I ===
  Gilbert Novailla de Neville, I
  Birthdate:
  circa 1050 (85)
  Birthplace:
  Neuville-sur-Touques, Gacé, Argentan, Orne, Basse-Normandie, France
  Death:
  circa 1135 (77-93)
  Raby, Durham, , England
  Place of Burial:
  County Durham, England, United Kingdom
  Immediate Family:
  Son of Richard de Novavilla and Hildegarde De Neville
  Husband of Philicia De Neville
  Father of Ralph de Neville; Geoffrey de Neville; Sir Gilbert de Neville, kt.; Alan de Neville and Ernius de Neville c. 1082
  Brother of Robert de Neville; Richard de Neville and Ralph de Neville
  Occupation:
  Admiral of the fleet for William the Conqueror, Admiral of the Fleet of William
  
  === military service ===
  It would appear that duke Gilbert Seuton lived in Normandy but his children lived in England. This compounded with the fact that he was born in 1035 and lived till 1086 means that he may have participated in the invasion of brittania with William the conqueror.
  
  === !SOURCES: Wurts' Magna Charta; Vol. 7 C ===
  !SOURCES: Wurts' Magna Charta; Vol. 7 Chapter 244, pg. 2077 !NOTES: Living in 1086
  
  === Correct linkage? ===
  Linked to parents born same decade as him! Wife also linked as his mother!
  
  === He was the Admiral of England in 1067. ===
  He was the Admiral of England in 1067.

• m. ABT 1080 in Hornby Castle, Hornby, Lancashire, England

1. Geoffrey de Neville, b. ABT 1080 in Walcot, Lincolnshire, England     d. 1146 in Scothern, Welton, Lincolnshire, England
2. Gilbert II de Neville, b. ABT 1118 in Horncastle, Lincolnshire, England     d. ABT 1169 in Horncastle, Lincolnshire, England

1. Title: Lloyd, Lewis Christopher: The Origins of Some Anglo-Norman Families. Genealoogical Publsihing Company, 1999
   Note: ISBN-10: 0806306491 ISBN-13: 978-0806306490
   
2. Title: Find a Grave: Gilbert de Neville, Death 1135
   Publication: Name: https://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GRid=161174700;
   Note: Birth: unknown, France Death: 1135 Durham Unitary Authority County Durham, England Died in Raby Admiral of the fleet for William the Conqueror Family links: Parents: Richard Teutonicus de Neuville (____ - 1100) Children: Geoffrey de Neville (____ - 1146)* Burial: St Mary Churchyard Staindrop Durham Unitary Authority County Durham, England Created by: Memerizion Record added: Apr 16, 2016 Find A Grave Memorial# 161174700
   
3. Title: 2nd Pedigree of the Ancient Neville Line
   Author: Notes and Queries page 356
   Publication: Name: https://books.google.com/books?id=9u9AAQAAMAAJ&pg=PA356&lpg=PA356&dq=bertram+bulmer+%2B+isabel+de+neville&source=bl&ots=kcY-5AXr_x&sig=_rSqLqY5M2xJXnDE7_ObglxzIFo&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjU_tilzorMAhWmtIMKHYkND6I4FBDoAQghMAE#v=onepage&q=bertram%20bulmer%20%2B%20isabel%20de%20neville&f=false;
   Note: shows details from Ralph Neville down to Isabel etc...
   
4. Title: Gilbert de Neville, "Find A Grave Index", Death 1135
   Author: "Find A Grave Index," database, FamilySearch (https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:Q23T-ZV3Z : 9 September 2022), Gilbert de Neville, ; Burial, Staindrop, Durham Unitary Authority, County Durham, England, St Mary Churchyard; citing record ID 161174700, Find a Grave, http://www.findagrave.com.
   Publication: Name: https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:Q23T-ZV3Z;
   
5. Title: Gilbert, Geoffrey I and II and Isabel de Neville in Dugdale’s The Baronage of England. Pgs. 287-292 [See document in the Memories section]
   Author: Dugdale’s The Baronage of England. Pgs. 287-292
   Note: Gilbert, Geoffrey I and II and Isabel de Neville in Dugdale’s The Baronage of England. Pgs. 287-292 [See document in the Memories section]
   Page: Gilbert, Geoffrey I and II and Isabel de Neville in Dugdale’s The Baronage of England. Pgs. 287-292 [See document in the Memories section]
   
6. Title: Gilbert, Geoffrey I and II and Isabel de Neville in Burke's General and Heraldic Dictionary of the Peerages, pg. 384 [See document in the Memories section]
   Author: Burke's General and Heraldic Dictionary of the Peerages, pg. 384
   Note: Gilbert, Geoffrey I and II and Isabel de Neville in Burke's General and Heraldic Dictionary of the Peerages, pg. 384 [See document in the Memories section]
   Page: Gilbert, Geoffrey I and II and Isabel de Neville in Burke's General and Heraldic Dictionary of the Peerages, pg. 384 [See document in the Memories section]
   
7. Title: A genealogical and heraldic history of the landed gentry of Great Britain & Ireland by Burke, Bernard, Sir, 1814-1892; Burke, Ashworth P. (Ashworth Peter), 1864-1919, ed Published 1894 Topics Heraldry, genealogy
   Author: page 1470
   Publication: Name: https://archive.org/stream/genealogicalhera02inburk#page/1470/mode/1up;
   
8. Title: Gilbert de Neville in the Battle Abbey Roll, Vol. 2, pgs. 342-344 [See document in the Memories section]
   Author: Battle Abbey Roll, Vol. 2, pgs. 342-344
   Note: Gilbert de Neville in the Battle Abbey Roll, Vol. 2, pgs. 342-344 [See document in the Memories section]
   Page: Gilbert de Neville in the Battle Abbey Roll, Vol. 2, pgs. 342-344 [See document in the Memories section]
   
9. Title: White Family Quarterly, Volumes 1-3
   Author: pages 43-48
   Publication: Name: https://books.google.com/books?id=9qZbAAAAMAAJ&pg=RA2-PA45&lpg=RA2-PA45&dq=thomas+neville+of+hornby+%2B+thomas+beaufort&source=bl&ots=_Uaeyb8zwp&sig=l7wZMWiiPsgUK6m8nWVwxbn8Rhc&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjxrKimkYjMAhXmwYMKHbcxCtAQ6AEITzAN#v=onepage&q=thomas%20neville&f=false;
   Note: Gives detailed line of the Nevilles of Raby... NOTE: Some data in this is skewed toward false history, it is better viewed in this one instead: The Gentleman's Magazine (London, England), Volume 141, page 217
   
10. Title: Gilbert, Geoffrey I and II and Isabel de Neville in Burke's Dormant, Abeyant, Forfeited and Extinct Peerages, pg. 392 [See document in the Memories section]
    Author: Burke's Dormant, Abeyant, Forfeited and Extinct Peerages, pg. 392
    Note: Gilbert, Geoffrey I and II and Isabel de Neville in Burke's Dormant, Abeyant, Forfeited and Extinct Peerages, pg. 392 [See document in the Memories section]
    Page: Gilbert, Geoffrey I and II and Isabel de Neville in Burke's Dormant, Abeyant, Forfeited and Extinct Peerages, pg. 392 [See document in the Memories section]
    
11. Title: G. E. Cokayne: "The Complete Peerage of England, Scotland, Ireland, Great Britain, and the United Kingdom"
    Author: G E Cokayne: The Complete Peerage of England, Scotland, Ireland, Great Britain, and the United Kingdom; Palgrave Mac\Mmillan (New York, November 1984); ISBN-10: 031215836X, ISBN-13: 978-0312158361
    Publication: Name: http://myheritage.com;
    
12. Title: The Reigns Of William I., William II., Henry I., Stephen ... 1066-1199, Volume 1
    Author: page 283
    Publication: Name: https://books.google.com/books?id=K1FjAAAAcAAJ&pg=PA283&lpg=PA283&dq=gilbert+de+neville&source=bl&ots=OQ0JoXQzve&sig=nArKC1uTee2TBqezfqIigR6PGIw&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwiSzKSbwYzMAhVmsYMKHV_bDSk4FBDoAQhHMAk#v=onepage&q=gilbert%20de%20neville&f=false;
    Note: Gives details of the brother to Gilbert named Alan and there dealings, and family history etc...
    
13. Title: Foundation for Medieval Genealogy: NEVILLE FAMILY
    Publication: Name: https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/ENGLISHNOBILITYMEDIEVAL3L-O.htm#_Toc21431097;
    Note: 1. GILBERT de Neville (-after [1115/18]). He held land at Walcot, Lincolnshire in 1086[712]. The Descriptio militum de Abbatia de Burgo records "Gislebertus de Nevila" holding land in Lincolnshire from "abbatia de Burch"[713]. 2. RALPH de Neville . The Descriptio militum de Abbatia de Burgo records "Radulfus de Nevila" holding land in Lincolnshire and Hampshire from "abbatia de Burch"[714]. 3. GEOFFREY de Neville of Walcot, Lincolnshire (-after [1145/46]). 4. GILBERT de Neville (-before 1169). King Henry II gave him the barony of Ashby, Lincolnshire[715]. Henry II King of England confirmed the foundation of Tupholm Abbey, Lincolnshire by ”Gilberti de Nevill et Alani de Nevill fratris sui” by undated charter, which confirmed donations by “Galfredi de Nevill…Galfridi filii Alani de Nevill…Henrici de Nevill…Ernisii de Nevill…Hugonis de Nevill”[716]. The Red Book of the Exchequer refers to "Gile de Neville v m" in Lincolnshire in [1161/62][717]. m ---. The name of Gilbert´s wife is not known. Gilbert & his wife had three children: a) GEOFFROY de Neville (-before 1193). Henry II King of England confirmed the foundation of Tupholm Abbey, Lincolnshire by ”Gilberti de Nevill et Alani de Nevill fratris sui” by undated charter, which confirmed donations by “…Galfridi filii Alani de Nevill…”[718]. “Gaufridus de Nevilla” confirmed a donation to the monks of Byland by charter dated to [1169/93], witnessed by “…Willelmo de Nevill et Waltero fratre eius…”[719]. m ([1169/Nov 1176]) EMMA de Bulmer, daughter of BERTRAND de Bulmer & his wife [720]Emma Fossard of Mulgrave (-before 1208). The 1175/76 Pipe Roll records "Galfrido de Neuill qui habet filiam…Bertram [de Bulemer] cum hereditate" in Yorkshire[721]. Geoffrey & his wife had two children: i) HENRY de Neville (-before 3 Mar 1227). King John confirmed the grant of "in Askebi et in Thienthon" to "Henr de Nevill", as granted by King Henry II to "Gaufr de Nevill patri eiusdem Henrici", by charter dated 7 Aug 1199[722]. The Red Book of the Exchequer records "Henricus de Neville" holding 3 knights´ fees "de Suttone" in Yorkshire in [1210/12][723]. m ALICE, daughter of ---. "Alice who was the wife of Henry de Neville" made a fine "for having licence to marry whom she wishes", dated to 3 Mar 1227[724]. ii) ISABEL de Neville (-before May 1254). "Robert fitz Maldred, who has to wife Isabella, sister and heiress of…Henry de Neville" paid homage to the king "for the lands formerly of Henry de Neville", dated to [Mar] 1227[725]. She was heiress of her brother Henry de Neville. m firstly ROBERT FitzMaldred Lord of Raby and Brancepeth, co. Durham, son of DOLFIN FitzUhtred & his wife --- (-[25 Jun 1242/26 May 1248]). m secondly (before 26 May 1248) GILBERT de Brakenberg, son of ---. b) WILLIAM . “Gaufridus de Nevilla” confirmed a donation to the monks of Byland by charter dated to [1169/93], witnessed by “…Willelmo de Nevill et Waltero fratre eius…”[726]. c) WALTER de Neville (-after 1194). “Gaufridus de Nevilla” confirmed a donation to the monks of Byland by charter dated to [1169/93], witnessed by “…Willelmo de Nevill et Waltero fratre eius…”[727]. - see below. 5. ALAN de Neville of Ashby, Lincolnshire (-[1177/78]). Henry II King of England confirmed the foundation of Tupholm Abbey, Lincolnshire by ”Gilberti de Nevill et Alani de Nevill fratris sui” by undated charter[728]. Judge of the Court of Exchequer[729]. Ancestor of the LORDS NEVILLE of Essex, created by writ 1311, extinct in the male line 1358[730].