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Elen Ferch Tewdwr Mawr
- Preferred Name: Elen Ferch Tewdwr Mawr[1] [2] [3] [4]
- Alternate Name: Elen Ferch Tewdwr Mawr
- Alternate Name: Otten S. Wales Princess of Wales
- Alternate Name: Elen verch Tewdwr Mawr of Dynevor
- Alternate Name: Elen Verch Tewdwr
- Gender: F
- FSID: LZBX-QMV
- Birth: 1045 in Dynevor, Carmarthen, Wales at LATI: N1.8609 LONG: E4.3115
- Fact: with note: Description: https://www.geni.com/people/Elen-verch-Tudur-Mawr/6000000036433797749?through=6000000007646578415
Most vital information and relationships match. Some details contain minor conflicts. ID numbers: L17B-1VT and LZBX-QMV.
- Death: in Brecon, Breconshire, Wales at LATI: N1.95 LONG: E3.3833 with note: death date of 1093 is probably not correct because children
are born after that date
- Notes:
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=== From Ancestral File (TM), data as of 2 J ===
From Ancestral File (TM), data as of 2 January 1996. From Ancestral File (TM), data as of 2 January 1996.
=== !#4568-v3-p85; v11-p847; !#235-v1-p68; # ===
!#4568-v3-p85; v11-p847; !#235-v1-p68; #249-55-v5-p183; !Arch Rec: Birth 1040 of Caerlleon; Monm 1 v1-pt2-p187,338; v3-pt2-p338; !ORD: *1) TIB: SLAKE: Bap>, End> 13851-5V-601; 2) ARCH REC: Bap> (6 Aug 1966), End> (17 Sep 1966); FN #PZ7XWX;
=== Ancestral File Number: PZ7X-WX ===
Ancestral File Number: PZ7X-WX
=== GEDCOM line 37419 not recognizable or to ===
GEDCOM line 37419 not recognizable or too long: () 1 SOUR @S01@
Born 1051 in Dynevor Castle, Llandilo, Carmarthenshire, Wales
=== BIRTH-MARRIAGE:"WELSH GENEALOGIES AD300- ===
BIRTH-MARRIAGE:"WELSH GENEALOGIES AD300-1400," by Peter Clement Bartrum, published by The National Library of Wales, 1980. BIRTH -MARRIAGE:"A HISTORY OF THE COUNTY OF BRECKNOCK", by Theophilus Jones, pub. in London, England, in 1805. LDS FHC microfilm #0990114, p. 249.
=== Line 887 from GEDCOM File not recognizab ===
Line 887 from GEDCOM File not recognizable or too long: SOUR @S01@
=== From Ancestral File (TM), data as of 5 J ===
From Ancestral File (TM), data as of 5 JAN 1998.
=== From Ancestral File (TM), data as of 2 J ===
From Ancestral File (TM), data as of 2 January 1996.
=== !1. Bartrum 300-1400, pg. 776, Rhys ap T ===
!1. Bartrum 300-1400, pg. 776, Rhys ap Tewdwr 1 and Iestyn 1
=== From Ancestral File (TM), data as of 2 J ===
From Ancestral File (TM), data as of 2 January 1996. From Ancestral File (TM), data as of 2 January 1996.From Ancestral File (TM), data as of 2 January 1996.From Ancestral File (TM), data as of 2 January 1996.
=== !Brown book 5, P C 287. ===
!Brown book 5, P C 287.
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=== !NOTE: The Church of Jesus Christ of Lat ===
!NOTE: The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, Ancestral File (TM); ; June 1998 (c), data as of 5 JAN 1998; ; , Family History Library, 35 N West Temple Street, Salt Lake City, UT 84150 USA !SEALING_PARENTS: The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, Ordinance Index (TM); ; 25 Jan 2000 Edition; ; , Family History Library, 35 N. West Temple Street, Salt Lake City, UT 84150 USA
=== Line 136 from GEDCOM File not recognizab ===
Line 136 from GEDCOM File not recognizable or too long: NAME Elen Verch /TEWDWR/ GIVN Elen Verch Line 137 from GEDCOM File not recognizable or too long: NAME Elen Verch /TEWDWR/ SURN TEWDWR Line 140 from GEDCOM File not recognizable or too long: SOUR @S01@
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NOT-A-MATCH: This individual is not th ===
NOT-A-MATCH: This individual is not the same as Nest Verch /TEWDWR/ 1003-?, PAF ID {8e96a5ea-08ec-48d8-84c3-06f5519698da}
=== Ancestral File Number: PZ7X-WX ===
Ancestral File Number: PZ7X-WX
!Brown book 5, P C 287.
From Ancestral File (TM), data as of 5 JAN 1998.
From Ancestral File (TM), data as of 2 January 1996. From Ancestral File (TM), data as of 2 January 1996.From Ancestral File (TM), data as of 2 January 1996.From Ancestral File (TM), data as of 2 January 1996.
!NOTE: The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, Ancestral File (TM); ; June 1998 (c), data as of 5 JAN 1998; ; , Family History Library, 35 N West Temple Street, Salt Lake City, UT 84150 USA !SEALING_PARENTS: The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, Ordinance Index (TM); ; 25 Jan 2000 Edition; ; , Family History Library, 35 N. West Temple Street, Salt Lake City, UT 84150 USA
GEDCOM line 37419 not recognizable or too long: () 1 SOUR @S01@
Unless you can provide documentation of direct lineage and attach it, please don't add Family Tree.
BIRTH-MARRIAGE:"WELSH GENEALOGIES AD300-1400," by Peter Clement Bartrum, published by The National Library of Wales, 1980. BIRTH -MARRIAGE:"A HISTORY OF THE COUNTY OF BRECKNOCK", by Theophilus Jones, pub. in London, England, in 1805. LDS FHC microfilm #0990114, p. 249.
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!#4568-v3-p85; v11-p847; !#235-v1-p68; #249-55-v5-p183; !Arch Rec: Birth 1040 of Caerlleon; Monm 1 v1-pt2-p187,338; v3-pt2-p338; !ORD: *1) TIB: SLAKE: Bap>, End> 13851-5V-601; 2) ARCH REC: Bap> (6 Aug 1966), End> (17 Sep 1966); FN #PZ7XWX;
Line 887 from GEDCOM File not recognizable or too long: SOUR @S01@
This site is made-up of my own family tree, plus contributions from many others who have shared their research, as well as downloads from from the internet. Not everything has been varified. It should be used with caution, but is a good place to start. If you find errors, or would like to share information, please contact me.
(21) dead
From Ancestral File (TM), data as of 2 January 1996. From Ancestral File (TM), data as of 2 January 1996.
From Ancestral File (TM), data as of 2 January 1996.
!1. Bartrum 300-1400, pg. 776, Rhys ap Tewdwr 1 and Iestyn 1
Line 136 from GEDCOM File not recognizable or too long: NAME Elen Verch /TEWDWR/ GIVN Elen Verch Line 137 from GEDCOM File not recognizable or too long: NAME Elen Verch /TEWDWR/ SURN TEWDWR Line 140 from GEDCOM File not recognizable or too long: SOUR @S01@
=== This site is made-up of my own family tr ===
This site is made-up of my own family tree, plus contributions from many others who have shared their research, as well as downloads from from the internet. Not everything has been varified. It should be used with caution, but is a good place to start. If you find errors, or would like to share information, please contact me.
Preferred Parents:
Father: Tewdwr Mawr ap Einion, b. 1018 in South Wales
Family 1: Bleddyn ap Maenyrch King of Brecon, b. 1044 in Brecon, Breconshire, Wales d. 1093 in Wales
- m. 1060 in Carmenthenshire, Wales
- Caradog ap Bleddyn, b. ABT 1091 in Aberhonddu, Breconshire, Wales
- Mael ap Bleddyn, b. 1067 in Merionethshire, Wales d. 1097 in Wales
- Cadwgon ap Bleddyn, b. ABT 1093 in Aberhonddu, Breconshire, Wales
- Cuhelyn Fardd ap Gwynfardd, b. ABT 1077 in Of Cemais, Pembrokeshire, Wales
- Gwgon ap Bleddyn, Arglwydd of Cas wis, b. 1095 in Brecon, Breconshire, Wales d. ABT 1165 in Haverfordwest St Mary, Pembrokeshire, Wales
- Cafwgon Ap Bleddyn,
Sources:
- Title: Battle of Brecon
Publication: Name: https://www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/history-remember-1093-and-all-that-david-keys-reports-on-the-forgotten-anniversary-of-the-norman-1503133.html;
Note: description of the battle of brecon
Page: Guessing they both died as a result of the Battle of Brecon (1093)
- Title: The History of the County of Brecknock
Author: Google search from Wikipedia sources
Publication: Name: https://www.library.wales/digital-exhibitions-space/digital-exhibitions/europeana-rise-of-literacy/history-books/a-history-of-the-county-of-brecknock#?c=&m=&s=&cv=214&xywh=617%2C549%2C2849%2C2426;
Note: Mentions marriage to William ap Thomas but does not mention children.
Page: Vol 2 page 204 on scroll bar page 164 in actual book shows a pedigree chart at the bottom shows that a Gwgan married a Gwenllian verch Gwys daughter of Philip Gwys and they had a son Sir Walter Wogan where the Wogans of wiston came from.
- Title: Medieval Welsh ancestors of certain Americans :
Author: Ancestry.com
Publication: Name: https://dcms.lds.org/delivery/DeliveryManagerServlet?dps_pid=IE523019;
Note: Rough Copy but it has on page 185 on the scroll bar and on page 168 of the actual book, Sir William Thomas and then down the paragraph has that his Daugther Margred married Henry Wogan Son of John Wogan.
Page: bottom of page 37 shows relationship to spouse and father and children
- Title: textsAnnals and antiquities of the counties and county families of Wales; containing a record of all ranks of the gentry ... with many ancient pedigrees and memorials of old and extinct families by Nicholas, Thomas, 1820-1879
Author: Google Books
Publication: Name: https://archive.org/details/annalsantiquitie01nich/page/362/mode/2up?q=Vaynol;
Note: entering family name of Wogan in search engine brings information on this old family name page 90 gives information on the lineage of this family Bleddyn ap Maenarch and Elinor his wife their son Gwrgan and his wife Gwellian and their son Walter or in some sources Gwalter.
Page: shows relationship to family members
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