Hawise le Meschines

• Preferred Name: Hawise le Meschines^{[1] [2] [3] [4] [5] [6] [7] [8] [9] [10] [11] [12] [13] [14] [15]}
  
• Gender: F
  
• FSID: LZPS-6BC
  
• Death: 1187 in Egremont, Cumberland, England at LATI: N4.4813 LONG: E3.5289
  
• Birth: 1115 in Harringworth, Northamptonshire, England at LATI: N2.5685 LONG: E0.6514
  
• Burial: 1187 in Fountains Abbey, North Yorkshire, England at LATI: N4.1 LONG: E1.5667
  
• Notes:

  === Life Sketch ===
  Easy to confuse AVICE aka Hawise with her sister ALICE aka Alicia.
  
  Avice le Meschin, Lady of Harewood is the daughter of William le Meschin, Lord of Copeland and Cecilia de Rumilly, Lady of Skipton. She married, firstly, William de Courcy II. She married, secondly, William Paynel. She married, thirdly, William de Percy.
  
  Avice de Paynel formerly Le Meschines aka de Rumily
  Born about 1115 in Harringworth, Northamptonshire, England
  Daughter of William FitzRanulph le Meschin and Cecily (Rumilly) le Meschin
  Sister of Ranulf le Meschin, Alice (Rumilly) FitzGerold and Maude (Meschines) Mortimer
  Wife of William (Paynel) de Paganel
  Wife of Guillaume de Courcy — married about 1127 in England
  Mother of Alice (Paynell) Paganel and William de Courcy
  (wikitree)
  
  === Source: Please cite original sources.
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  Source: Please cite original sources.
  Compiled by: J. K. Loren
  
  === From Ancestral File (TM), data as of 2 J ===
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  === !NOTE: The Church of Jesus Christ of Lat ===
  !NOTE: The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, Ancestral File (TM); ; June 1998 (c), data as of 5 JAN 1998; ; , Family History Library, 35 N West Temple Street, Salt Lake City, UT 84150 USA
  
  === Louis Sorley: The Sorley Pedigrees pp 3 ===
  Louis Sorley: The Sorley Pedigrees pp 30,22
  
  === Apparently a widow when she married Robe ===
  Apparently a widow when she married Robert de Gant. Apparently a widow when she married Robert de Gant. Apparently a widow when she married Robert de Gant.
  
  === Ancestral File Number: 9HQN-7K ===
  Ancestral File Number: 9HQN-7K
  
  === From Ancestral File (TM), data as of 2 J ===
  From Ancestral File (TM), data as of 2 January 1996.
  
  === _P_CCINFO 1-14417 ===
  _P_CCINFO 1-14417
  
  === From Ancestral File (TM), data as of 5 J ===
  From Ancestral File (TM), data as of 5 JAN 1998.
  
  === COLONIAL FAMILIES OF LONG ISLAND, CONNET ===
  COLONIAL FAMILIES OF LONG ISLAND, CONNETICUT, AND NEW YORK (GS NUMBER 929.273 SE83S) P.2364, 2365, 2366; SORLEY'S PEDIGREES (GS NUMBER 929.273 SO68) P.24, 30:
  
  === Still Living. ===
  Still Living.
  
  === All details for this living person have ===
  All details for this living person have been suppressed.
  
  === 1. Source: "Ancestry of Roger Ludlow" b ===
  1. Source: "Ancestry of Roger Ludlow" by Seversmith, p. 2,365. 2a. William [RIN 1788] married Avice de Rumilly, widow of William de Courcy and daughter of William le Meschin, earl of Cambridge. Issue". 2b. I do not know whether her last name should be "le Meschin" or "de Rumilly".
  
  === Apparently a widow when she married Robe ===
  Apparently a widow when she married Robert de Gant.
  
  === !#21> Complete Peerage-v1-p353fn(d),-v10 ===
  !#21> Complete Peerage-v1-p353fn(d),-v10-p527, (FHL 942 D22cok); !KIN> 3rd dau & h; LVG> summer 1212; `TITLE> Lady of Allerdale;
  
  === !: SOUR AUTH The Church of Jesus Christ ===
  !: SOUR AUTH The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints TITL Ancestral File(TM) PUBL June 1998 (c), data as of 5 JAN 1998 REPO @R01@
  
  === The peerage ===
  The peerage
  
  Alice le Meschin, Lady of Skipton is the daughter of William le Meschin, Lord of Copeland and Cecilia de Rumilly, Lady of Skipton.
  She married, firstly, William fitz Duncan, Earl of Moray, son of Duncan II, King of Scotland and Æthelreda of Scotland, circa 1138.
  She married, secondly, Alexander FitzGerold.
  She was also known as Alice de Romeli. She gained the title of Lady of Skipton and Craven.
  
  Children of Alice le Meschin, Lady of Skipton and William fitz Duncan, Earl of Moray
  1. William MacWilliam, Lord of Egremont d. 1155
  2. Cecilia MacWilliam d. c 1190
  3. Amabel MacWilliam, Lady of Copeland d. b 1201
  4. Alice de Rumilly, Lady of Allerdale d. bt 1212 - 18 Mar 1215

• m. in 3rd husband

• m. 1127

1. William de Courcy III, b. ABT 1128 in Stogursey, Williton, Somerset, England     d. 1171 in Lincolnshire, England
2. John de Courcy, b. BEF 1130 in Stogursey, Somerset, England     d. SEP 1219 in Craigavon, County Down, Ireland

• m. ABT 1140

1. Title: Domesday Descendants, p. 675
   
2. Title: The Complete Peerage of England, Scotland, Ireland, Great Britain, and the United Kingdom : Extant, Extinct, or Dormant by Cokayne, George E. (George Edward), 1825-1911; Howard de Walden, Thomas Evelyn Scott-Ellis, Baron, b. 1880; etc., etc
   Author: Full Title: The Complete Peerage of England, Scotland, Ireland, Great Britain, and the United Kingdom : Extant, Extinct, or Dormant by Cokayne, George E. (George Edward), 1825-1911; Howard de Walden, Thomas Evelyn Scott-Ellis, Baron, b. 1880; Warrand, Duncan, 1877-1946; Gibbs, Vicary, 1853-; Doubleday, H. Arthur (Herbert Arthur), 1867-1941; White, Geoffrey H. (Geoffrey Henllan), b. 1873
   Publication: Name: https://archive.org/stream/completepeerageo01coka#page/352/mode/2up/search/alice;
   Note: Volume 1, Published 1910 by The St. Catherine Press, ltd.
   
3. Title: "Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists, 7th Edition," by Frederick Lewis Weis, additions by Walter Lee Shippard Jr., 1999 Page: 40-24
   
4. Title: Foundation for Medieval Genealogy
   Publication: Name: http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/normabc.htm#AliceSkiptonM1WilliamFitzDuncan;
   Note: WILLIAM FitzRanulf, son of RANULF Vicomte du Bessin [Bayeux] & his wife Marguerite [Mathilde] d'Avranches (-[1130/35][410]). The Cronicon Cumbriæ records that William I King of England granted “totam terram de comitatu Cumbriæ” to “Ranulpho de Meschines, et Galfrido fratri eiusdem…et Willielmo fratri eorundem terram de Copland”[411]. Orderic Vitalis records that "Guillaume son of Ralph the vicomte" was present at the capture of Nikaia in 1097. m as her first husband, CECILY de Rumilly, daughter and heiress of ROBERT de Rumilly [Romilly] of Skipton & his wife ---. “Willielmus de Meschines et Cecilia uxor mea” founded Bolton Priory by undated charter[421]. “Cecilia de Romeli” donated property to Bolton Priory by undated charter which names “gener meus Willielmus nepos regis Scotiæ Duncani”[422]. “Willielmus filius Ranulphi” confirmed the foundation of St Bee’s priory, Cumberland by undated charter, dated to [1105/20], which refers to donations by himself and “uxoris meæ Ceciliæ…concessione Ranulphi filii mei”[423]. She married secondly[424], as his second wife, Henry de Tracy of Barnstaple. William & his wife had five children: RANULF MATTHEW ALICE de Rumilly . A manuscript genealogy of William de Forz Comte d’Aumâle names “Aliciam de Rumeleya” as daughter of “Willielmus de Mechines primus hæres de Sciptun in Craven”, adding that she married “Willielmo filio Duncan” and was buried “apud Fontes”[431]. A different version of her parentage is provided by the Cronicon Cumbriæ which records that “Willielmus”, son of “Doncani comes de Murrayse”, married “Aliciam filiam Roberti de Romeney, domini de Skipton in Craven” and his wife “filiam Willielmi de Meschinis domini de Coupland”[432]. Lady of Skipton. “Willielmus filius Dunecani nepos regis Scotiæ…et Aeliz de Rumeili uxor mea” confirmed donations of property to Bolton Priory by undated charter[433]. "Aelicia de Rumelli…in libera potestate viduitatis mee" confirmed the donations to St Bees made by "pater meus Willelmus Meschinus et frater meus Ranulfus" by undated charter[434]. "Aelicia de Rumelli" confirmed the donations to St Bees made by "dominus meus Willelmus nepos regis Scocie" by undated charter[435]. “Aaliz de Rumelli” donated property to Pontefract Priory, with the consent of “Willielmi filii mei”, for the soul of “domini mei Willielmi filii Dunecani”, by undated charter[436]. Dugdale summarises donations to Southwark priory, including the donation of “cheese at Badleking in the manor of Kingston Lisle in Berkshire” made by "Alexander Fitzgerald" and confirmed by "Alice de Rumeley, wife of Alexander"[437]. m firstly (1138) [as his second wife,] WILLIAM FitzDuncan, son of DUNCAN II King of Scotland & his wife Ethelreda of Northumberland ([1091/94]-[1153/54]). m secondly ALEXANDER FitzGerold, son of ROBERT FitzGerold & Alice his wife --- (-1178). MATHILDA AVICE
   
5. Title: Wikiwand: Fountains Abbey
   Publication: Name: https://www.wikiwand.com/en/Fountains_Abbey;
   
6. Title: Legacy NFS Source: Avice de Meschines -
   Author: Ancestral File (TM), The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, July 1996 (c), data as of 2 January 1996
   Page: Migrated from user-supplied source citation: urn:familysearch:source:2737222795
   
7. Title: Legacy NFS Source: Avice de Meschines -
   Author: Ancestral File (R), The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, Copyright (c) 1987, June 1998, data as of 5 January 1998, Family History Library, 35 N West Temple Street, Salt Lake City, Utah 84150 USA
   Page: Migrated from user-supplied source citation: urn:familysearch:source:2041640822
   
8. Title: Legacy NFS Source: Avice de Meschines -
   Author: Ancestral File (R), The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, Copyright (c) 1987, June 1998, data as of 5 January 1998, Family History Library, 35 N West Temple Street, Salt Lake City, Utah 84150 USA
   Page: Migrated from user-supplied source citation: urn:familysearch:source:2676700743
   
9. Title: Legacy NFS Source: Aviscia Meschines - Published information: birth-name: Aviscia Meschines
   Author: Book, 100 Geneological Trails Back To Adam, Harrison Spencer Sperry, Publishers Press
   Note: Published information: birth-name: Aviscia Meschines Published information: female Published information: birth:
   Page: Migrated from user-supplied source citation: urn:familysearch:source:3244494165
   
10. Title: rootsweb: GEN-MEDIEVAL-L Archives
    Publication: Name: http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/read/GEN-MEDIEVAL/2003-01/1043729346;
    
11. Title: Royal Ancestors of Magna Charta Barons, by Carr. P. Collins Jr., 1959
    Author: Royal Ancestors of Magna Charta Barons, by Carr. P. Collins Jr., 1959.
    
12. Title: Legacy NFS Source: Avice Meschin -
    Author: Ancestral File (TM), The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, June 1998 (c), data as of 5 JAN 1998
    Page: Migrated from user-supplied source citation: urn:familysearch:source:2737222797
    
13. Title: Legacy NFS Source: Avice de Meschines -
    Author: Source 5 (please edit title)
    Page: Migrated from user-supplied source citation: urn:familysearch:source:2644080679
    
14. Title: Our royal, titled, noble and commoner ancestors
    Author: Citations [S4] Douglas Richardson, Royal Ancestry, Vol. II, p. 412. [S4] Douglas Richardson, Royal Ancestry, Vol. III, p. 63-64. [S11581] Burke's Dormant & Extinct Peerages, p. 227.
    Publication: Name: https://our-royal-titled-noble-and-commoner-ancestors.com/p523.htm#i15714;
    Note: Avice de Meschines1,2 Last Edited 4 Apr 2020 F, #15715 Father William le Meschin1,2 b. c 1102, d. a 1139 Mother Cecily Roundli b. c 1102 Charts Some Descendants of Charlemagne Avice de Meschines married William de Courci, son of Robert de Courci and Rohese de Grantmesnil.1 Avice de Meschines married William de Paganel.3,2 Family 1 William de Paganel Child Alice de Paganel+3,2 d. b 1180 Family 2 William de Courci Child William de Courci+ d. 1176
    
15. Title: Legacy NFS Source: Avice de Meschines -
    Author: Ancestral File (TM), The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, June 1998 (c), data as of 5 JAN 1998
    Page: Migrated from user-supplied source citation: urn:familysearch:source:2737222797