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Robert FitzPicot II
- Preferred Name: Robert FitzPicot II[1] [2] [3] [4] [5] [6] [7] [8] [9]
- Alternate Name: Robert of Verdun
- Alternate Name: Picot De Say
- Gender: M
- LifeSketch: with note: Description: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_de_Say
- Fact: with note: Description: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_de_Say
- Birth: ABT 1051 in Sai, Orne, Basse-Normandie, France at LATI: N8.7447 LONG: E0.0267
- Fact: with note: Description: https://www.geni.com/people/Robert-fitz-Picot-de-Say/6000000008640546782
- http://familysearch.org/v1/TitleOfNobility: Vicomte de Saye; Lord of Clun
- Death: 4 JUN 1086 in Clun, Shropshire, England, United Kingdom at LATI: N2.4702 LONG: E2.967
- FSID: LR1W-FBN
- Notes:
=== Life Sketch ===
Robert de Say, also called Robert Fitz-Picot, was a Norman knight who arrived in Shropshire after the Norman invasion.
Robert is most noted for the initial construction of Clun Castle, building it overlooking the lands he had seized from Edric the Wild after the invasion. The family name de Say comes from the Norman village of Sai, in Orne. Robert was an important vassal of Roger of Montgomery, the 1st Earl of Shrewsbury and a major early Norman magnate. Robert died in 1098.
Robert's son Henry de Say continued possession of Clun Castle. Robert's daughter married the Welsh lord Cadwgan ap Bleddyn, who acquired permission to move to England, probably Clun, in 1109.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_de_Say
BIO
BIO: from http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/ENGLISHNOBILITYMEDIEVAL3P-S.htm#IsabelSaydied1199 as of 8/8/2016
ROBERT de Say "Picot" (-after 1086). A charter dated to 1060 records the transactions of "
=== !Brown book 5, P C 313 & 341. ===
!Brown book 5, P C 313 & 341.
=== Robert de Verdun d'Estouteville (de Verd ===
Robert de Verdun d'Estouteville (de Verdun), I
Also Known As:
"Robert de Stuteville", ""Fronteboeuf" d'Estouteville", "Grandbois", "Robert** /DE VERDON/", "Robert /Estauleville/", "Robert /De Estuteville/"
Birthdate:
1010 (56)
Birthplace:
Estuteville-Ecales, Normandy, France
Death:
1066 (56)
Loire, Rhône-Alpes, France
Immediate Family:
Son of Robert de Verdun and Unknown de Verdun
Husband of Jeanne d'Estouteville
Father of Robert le Grandbois d'Estouteville, Lord of Cottingham; Mauricette d'Estouteville and Henri d'Estouteville
Occupation:
Governor of Ambrieres Castle, Sieur, d'Estouteville, Chevalier, Croisé, seigneur d'Estoutville
=== "This Norman family emanated from Say, w ===
"This Norman family emanated from Say, west of Exmes in the Norman vicountcy of Roger de Montgomery, and was a branch of the Avenel family...." {-"Falaise Roll," M.J.Crispin (1938), p. 52.}
Preferred Parents:
Father: Picot de Lascelles, I High Sheriff of Cambridgeshire, b. ABT 1022 in Saye, Orne, Normandie, France d. ABT 1092 in Escrick, Yorkshire, England, United Kingdom
Mother: Adeloia de Saye, b. ABT 1035 in Basse-Normandie, France d. ABT 1077 in Orne, Normandy, France
Family 1: Adelaide de Beaumont, b. ABT 1050 in Beaumont-les-Nonains, Oise, Hauts-de-France, France d. 11 JUL 1091 in Rouen, Seine-Maritime, Haute-Normandie, France
- Roger FitzPicot de Saye, b. ABT 1085 in Cottenham, Chesterton, Cambridgeshire, England. d. 1160 in Milton, Kent, England
- Guillaume FitzPicot I de Saye, b. ABT 1065 in Normandy, France d. 1144 in Hamme Say, Sussex, England
- Jordan de Say, b. ABT 1074 in Clun, Shropshire, England
Sources:
- Title: Wikipedia
Author: Wikipedia
Publication: Name: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_de_Say;
Note: Biography of Robert de Saye
- Title: Millennium File
- Title: Geni: Picot de Saye, I, High Sheriff of Cambridgeshire
Publication: Name: https://www.geni.com/people/Picot-de-Lascelles-I-High-Sheriff-of-Cambridgeshire/6000000001413904351;
Note: Picot de Lascelles, High Sheriff of Cambridgeshire, at ~https://www.geni.com/people/Picot-de-Lascelles-I-High-Sheriff-of-Cambridgeshire/6000000001413904351 [See document in the Memories section]
Page: Picot de Lascelles, High Sheriff of Cambridgeshire, at ~https://www.geni.com/people/Picot-de-Lascelles-I-High-Sheriff-of-Cambridgeshire/6000000001413904351 [See document in the Memories section]
- Title: Geni: (Robert) Picot de Lascelles de Saye
Author: Geni
Publication: Name: https://www.geni.com/people/Robert-fitz-Picot-de-Say/6000000008640546782;
Note: Information for Robert Picot de Lascelles de Saye
- Title: Pain Peverel in the Battle Abbey Roll, Vol. 2, pg. 372
Author: Battle Abbey Roll, Vol. 2, pg. 372
Note: Pain Peverel in the Battle Abbey Roll, Vol. 2, pg. 372 [See document in the Memories section]
Page: Pain Peverel in the Battle Abbey Roll, Vol. 2, pg. 372 [See document in the Memories section]
- Title: Picot de Grentebrige (Pico of Cambridge) in Wikipedia ~https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Picot_of_Cambridge [See document in the Memories section]
Author: Picot de Grentebrige (Pico of Cambridge) in Wikipedia ~https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Picot_of_Cambridge [See document in the Memories section]
Publication: Name: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Picot_of_Cambridge;
Note: Picot de Grentebrige (Pico of Cambridge) in Wikipedia ~https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Picot_of_Cambridge [See document in the Memories section]
Page: Picot de Grentebrige (Pico of Cambridge) in Wikipedia ~https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Picot_of_Cambridge [See document in the Memories section]
- Title: The Plantagenet Ancestry
Author: Turton, William Harry, 1856-1938, The Plantagenet Ancestry, Phillimore & Co., London, 1928 (repro 1993 Genealogical Publishing Co, Baltimore, MD), p.107, Orange - Family History Library, 674 S. Yorba Street, Orange, CA 92869-5042 U.S.A.
Note: Being Tables Showing Over 7,000 of the Ancestors of Elizabeth (Daughter of Edward IV and Wife of Henry VII) The Heiress of the Plantagenets, with Preface, Lists, Notes and a Complete Index.
NS2839263
Source Media Type: Book.
[PFT:AQ]
[S:Titl] The Plantagenet Ancestry
[S:Auth] Turton, William Harry, 1856-1938
[S:Publ] Phillimore & Co., London, 1928 (repro 1993 Genealogical Publishing Co, Baltimore, MD)
[S:Note] Being Tables Showing Over 7,000 of the Ancestors of Elizabeth (Daughter of Edward IV and Wife of Henry VII) The Heiress of the Plantagenets, with Preface, Lists, Notes and a Complete Index.
NS2839263
Source Media Type: Book
[Page] 107
[R:Name] Orange - Family History Library
[R:Addr] 674 S. Yorba Street
Orange, CA 92869-5042 U.S.A.
[R:Phon] (714) 997-7710
[/PFT]
- Title: Legacy NFS Source: Lord of Clun Robert de Saye - Church record: birth-name: Robert de Say
Note: Church record: birth-name: Robert de Say
Page: Migrated from user-supplied source citation: urn:familysearch:source:2021606318
- Title: Legacy NFS Source: Lord of Clun Robert de Saye -
Author: Stirnet.com, Peter Barns-Graham, Chairman, Name: http://www.stirnet.com;, Page number: Saye1
Note: Peter Barns-Graham, Chairman, Stirnet.com (http://www.stirnet.com).
Page: Migrated from user-supplied source citation: urn:familysearch:source:3246398939
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