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Ilbert de Lacy
- Preferred Name: Ilbert de Lacy[1] [2] [3] [4]
- Alternate Name: Ilbert de Lacy
- Gender: M
- Death: ABT 1093 in Pontefract, Yorkshire, England at LATI: N3.6922 LONG: E1.3086 with note: Standardized.
- Birth: ABT 1040 in Normandy, France at LATI: N8.928 LONG: E0.5326 with note: Removed Pontrefact to standardise place.
- Burial: ABT 1093 in Pontefract Priory, Yorkshire, England at LATI: N3.701 LONG: E1.245
- http://familysearch.org/v1/TitleOfNobility: Baron
- FSID: MVPP-6V1
- Notes:
=== Life Sketch ===
ILBERT de Lacy (-[1090/95], bur [Pontefract Priory]). His parentage is confirmed by the undated charter under which [his mother] "Emma mater Hilberti de Lacei" donated property "in monte…Mainart" to Saint-Amand on becoming a nun[6]. The Chronique de Normandie, based on le Roman de Rou, names "le sire de Lacy" (twice) among those who took part in the conquest of England in 1066[7], one of which entries presumably refers to Ilbert de Lacy. A manuscript history of the Lacy family records that “Ilberto de Lacy” accompanied William “the Conqueror” to England and was awarded “dominio et honore de Pontefracto”, adding that he was buried “ad dextrum cornu altaris sancti Benedicti” (which appears from the context to refer to Pontefract Priory)[8].
Domesday Book records “Ilbert de Lacy” holding Tingewick in Rowley Hundred in Buckinghamshire; several properties in Nottinghamshire; numerous properties in Yorkshire; land in Dunholme, Scothern, Stow and Willingham by Stow in Lincolnshire[9]. “Hilbertus de Laceio…cum Hadrude uxore mea” donated property to the Holy Trinity of the Mount, Rouen, for the souls of “…filiique mei Hugonis” who was buried there, by charter dated to [1088/94][10]. King William II confirmed “consuetudinem de castellaria castelli sui” to “Ilberto de Laceio” as held in the time of King William I and of “Baiocensis episcopi”, by charter dated to [1088/95][11]. A charter of King Henry II records donations to York St Mary, including the donation of land “in Meretona et in Gerford” by “Ilbertus de Laci”[12]. The Liber Vitæ of Durham names "Ilbertus de Laceio, Hathewis sua uxor, Rodbertus et Hugo filii eorum"[13]. The date of his death can only be assessed imprecisely, but the documentation suggests that it took place during the first half of the reign of King William II.
m HAWISE, daughter of ---. “Robertus de Laceio” founded Pontefract Priory, for the soul of “Hylberti patris mei et Hawisiæ matris meæ”, by undated charter[14]. “Hilbertus de Laceio…cum Hadrude uxore mea” donated property to the Holy Trinity of the Mount, Rouen, for the souls of “…filiique mei Hugonis” who is buried there, by charter dated to [1088/94][15]. It is not known whether “Hadrude” was a mistranscription for Hawise, or whether Ilbert had two wives with these names. A manuscript history of the Lacy family records that “Ilberto de Lacy…uxor eius” was buried “ad sinistrum cornu altaris [sancti Benedicti]” (which appears from the context to refer to Pontefract Priory)[16]. The Liber Vitæ of Durham names "Ilbertus de Laceio, Hathewis sua uxor, Rodbertus et Hugo filii eorum"[17]. Ilbert & his wife had [three] children:
i) ROBERT de Lacy (-[1108/29], bur Pontefract Priory). A manuscript history of the Lacy family names “Robertum Lacy” as son of “Ilberto de Lacy” and his wife “Hauisia”, adding that he founded “monasterium apud Pontefractum”, died during the reign of King William II (incorrect), and was buried at Pontefract[18]. - see below.
ii) HUGH de Lacy (-bur Holy Trinity of the Mount, Rouen). “Rodbertus de Laceio” confirmed the donation by “pater meus Hilbertus” to Selby Abbey, for the soul of “fratris mei Hugonis”, by undated charter[19]. “Hilbertus de Laceio…cum Hadrude uxore mea” donated property to the Holy Trinity of the Mount, Rouen, for the souls of “…filiique mei Hugonis” who is buried there, by charter dated to [1088/94][20]. The Liber Vitæ of Durham names "Ilbertus de Laceio, Hathewis sua uxor, Rodbertus et Hugo filii eorum"[21].
iii) [MATILDA . “Henricum de Laceio” founded Kirkstall Abbey, for the souls of “Ilberti avi mei et Hawis uxoris suæ…et Matildis amitæ”, by undated charter[22]. Assuming that “amita” can be interpreted in its strict sense of paternal aunt, Matilda was the daughter of Ilbert.]
BIO
BIO: Domesday lord of Pontefract.
** from http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/ENGLISHNOBILITYMEDIEVAL3L-O.htm#RobertLacydied1099A as of 7/15/2016
ILBERT de Lacy (-[1090/95], bur [Pontefract Priory]).
=== Came to England at the Conquest with his ===
Came to England at the Conquest with his half brother, Walter de Laci(d. Apr. 1084). Peter Barns-Graham, Chairman, Stirnet.com(http://www.stirnet.com), Lacy1.
=== SORLEY'S PEDIGREES (GS NUMBER Q929.242 S ===
SORLEY'S PEDIGREES (GS NUMBER Q929.242 SO68) P.16, 20; ENGLAND PUBLICATION 5, VOL 7 P.677; YORKSHIRE PUBLICATION 2A1C20, P.277; ENGLAND PUBLICATION 138, PT.2 P.87;
=== ! Source: Eng. V V7 p.677. Yorks 2 ! ===
! Source: Eng. V V7 p.677. Yorks 2 ! Al C20 P.277. Eng. 138 ! Pt. 2 P.67
=== BIOGRAPHY: Ilbert de Laci or Lassy, in N ===
BIOGRAPHY: Ilbert de Laci or Lassy, in Normandy, on the road from Vere to Auvray, probably a brother of Walter de Lacy of Gloucester, is described as the son of Emme; Lord of Pontefract, co. York. Died A.D. 1090.
=== !SOURCE: "Royal Ancestors," PC #536. ===
!SOURCE: "Royal Ancestors," PC #536.
=== 1st Baron of Pontefract, York, Eng. ===
1st Baron of Pontefract, York, Eng.
=== Source: Norr. Norr: Ilbert (Gilbert) de ===
Source: Norr. Norr: Ilbert (Gilbert) de Lacy, born about 1040.Domesday tenant 1086; d.c. 1093.
=== It is sometimes claimed that he fought ===
It is sometimes claimed that he fought with WILLIAM THE CONQUERER at the Battle of Hastings. There is no proof of this. Quite possibly, he was too old to have faught. From W E Wightman, "The Lacy Family in England and Normandy, 1066-1194": (pp.17, 19): "The honour of Pontefract is the name later given to the estates built up by the Lacy family, mainly by Ilbert I under the first two Norman kings. In 1086 the bulk of these estates were already to be found in the south half of the West Riding of Yorkshire, held by Ilbert I as tenant-in-chief direct of the king, though there was also an appreciable quantity of land scattered over the counties of Lincoln, Nottingham, Buckingham, Oxford, counties of Lincoln, Nottingham, Buckingham, Oxford, Berkshire, and Surrey. ..... The military importance of this stretch of territory was enormous." ( p 55): "The first holder of the honour of Pontefract was Ilbert I de Lacy, brother of the first lord of the honour of Weobley, Walter I. Proof of their relationship comes from their estate in Normandy. This single holding was held jointly by the descendants of Ilbert I and Walter I by the Norman tenure of parage, under which land was divided amongst the sons and daughters whilst at the same time remaining a single fee. Had it not been originally a family holding this tenure would not have applied, and the details of the dissolution of the joint fee show that the family link must have been via Ilbert and Walter as sons of the same father. The senior branch of the family was probably that of Ilbert of Pontefract. He followed his Norman overlord into England, whereas Walter arrived in the train of William fitz Osbern, much as a younger son might do. In all probability the younger brother would have no obligation to follow his liege lord outside Normandy and thus might choose to attach himself to the most convenient leader he could find. An additional piece of evidence comes from the grant of twenty- two acres of land at Montmain to the nunn ery of St. Amand by Emma, the mother of Ilbert de Lacy. She was categorically described as Ilbert's mother, to distinguish her from the abbess of St. Amand, whose name was also Emma. This implies either that Ilbert was the more important of the two brothers in Normandy, and under the rules of tenure by parage therefore the elder, or else that Walter was not Emma's son, but a cousin. As this would have been impossible, in view of the later descent of the fee, it is most likely that Ilbert was the elder. Little is known about either of the brothers. They were not, for example, amongst the favoured few whose participation at the battle of Hastings can be proved. Ilbert I was probably born not later than 1045, though this is little more than a guess based on the likely assumption that he came over in 1066, and was enfeoffed as a tenant of Bishop Odo soon afterward. He was still alive shortly after Odo's banishment on 14 November 1088. It is possible that he was alive in or soon after 1091, but he was undoubtedly dead by the end of the reign of Rufus, for by that time he had been succeeded by his son Robert I. Little more is known about his family. His wife's name was Hawise, and that is the total extent of information about her."
=== Ilbert de Lacy of the Conquest (Hilbert, ===
Ilbert de Lacy of the Conquest (Hilbert, Gilbert, etc.). He was Lord of Pontefract in Yorkshire, i.e., the honour of Pontefract. His vast possessions extended about in all directions from the fair medieval castle itself westward even into Lancashire. Of that majestice pile only a few ruined walls now remain. In the days of its pride it was the chief seat of the Yorkshire de Lacys, - a line beginning with this Ilbert and, speaking of the senior branch, ending in the person of Lady Alice, Countess of Lincoln and Lancaster, last of the Pontefract de Lacys. The various Lacy family still existing in England are derived from such junior branches of the Longton and Pontefract stock as those of Harnage, Cressage, Hassop, Folkton, Clitterroe, Cromwell-Botham, and so on. The more ancient name of York was Caer Effroc, and some would have it that Pontefract itself was once named Hawisa. Of Pontefract Castle only the outline of its massive structure is now traceable, that and the lower portions of the gate-way towers; but it is so beautifully taken care of, its gardan precincts pranked with flowers, a glory to behold.
Ilbert de Lacy possessed large territories in Lincolnshire and founded a house of canons, which later became an abbey, at Pontefract. There is still preserved in the British Museum (whither is was lately conveyed from Winchester) a very remarkable charter of Ilbert de Lacy which was witnessed by William the Conqueror. This ancient parchment has to do with the Manor of Tingwick, Bucks, and also carried the signature of Ilbert's wife, Hadrude. As Ilbert's wife is elsewhere styled Hawise (Halewysa, Halwyse) one can only assume that he was twice married. The father of Walter de Lacy of Longton and Ilbert of Pontefract was Hugh de Lacy, Lord of Lassy and Campeau in Normandy; Hugh's second wife, Ilbert's mother, is said to have been Emma, daughter of Ilbert the Marshal of Normandy. It is to be hoped that some compentent archivist will make such research into pre-Conquest Norman documents as will throw light upon de Lacy origins previous to 1066. Through the courtesy of Neville Lacy Stockton, Esq. of London the writer is enabled to give the following description of the above charter:
'It bears not only his own (Ilbert's) and his wife's sign manual, but also that of William the Conqueror, and is believed to be the only document in which the sovereign had witnessed a subject's charter. A very fine preserved seal of Ilbert's is attached, showing him on horseback in the armour of the period (c 1070)'
Whilst some authorities declare Ilbert and Walter to have been brothers, the more reliable make them brothers merely of the half-blood, and refer to Hawise (Alice) as being Walter's sister. The children of Ilbert de Lacy, first Baron of Pontefract, were Robert and Hugh. Halwyse became the wife of William or Reginald d'Evreux, ancestor of the Devereux, Viscounts of Hereford, after whose death she made munificent grants of lands to Gloucester Abbey. Some writers ascribe another brother to Walter and Ilbert of the Conquest, viz., Roger de Lacy of the Conquest. Though this is possible, still, in Duncomb's History of Hereford the lands recorded in connection with Roger's name are of those assigned in 1086 to Roger, son of Walter de Lacy, in the Doomsday Book. In that same year the lands of Ilbert in Nottinghamshire included Neward, the family seat of Lord Byron's ancestors, sub-feudatories of the Pontefract de Lacys. Ilbert possessed at least one hundred and sixty-four Lordships in Yorkshire alone. [The Roll of the House of Lacy pp3-4]
=== !SOURCES: 1. Eng. V, v. 7, p. 677 2. Yor ===
!SOURCES: 1. Eng. V, v. 7, p. 677 2. Yorks 2 3. A1 C20, p. 277 4. Eng. 138, pt. 2, p. 87
=== -King William presented Ilbert with the ===
-King William presented Ilbert with the Castle and town of Brokenbridge, County York, which he afterward named "Pontfract". -At the time of the general survey he possessed nearly 164 lordships. ------------------------- Reference: Blue 43, page 88 and 89
=== He followed William the Conqueror into E ===
He followed William the Conqueror into England about 1066. He built large estates in the south half of the West Riding, Yorkshire. He also had land in Lincoln, Nottingham, Buckingham, Oxford, Berkshire, and Surrey.
=== Ilbert de Laci received the castle and t ===
Ilbert de Laci received the castle and town of Brokenbridge, Yorkshire, England from William the Conqueror. Later this area was called "Pontrefact."
=== King William gave castle and town of Bro ===
King William gave castle and town of Brokenbridge (Pontefract) co York.
=== !DEATH: from The Complet Peerage ! from ===
!DEATH: from The Complet Peerage ! from Visitation of Yorkshire in 1584/5 and 1612, p.607 !DEATH: from The Complet Peerage ! from Visitation of Yorkshire in 1584/5 and 1612, p.607 !DEATH: from The Complet Peerage ! from Visitation of Yorkshire in 1584/5 and 1612, p.607
=== [G675.ged] W E Wightman, *The Lacy Fami ===
[G675.ged] W E Wightman, *The Lacy Family in England and Normandy, 1066-1194*, genealogical chart following p 260. From same, p 17, 19: "The honour of Pontefract is the name later given to the estates built up by the Lacy family, mainly by Ilbert I under the first two Norman kings. In 1086 the bulk of these estates were already to be found in the south half of the West Riding of Yorkshire, held by Ilbert I as tenant-in-chief direct of the king, though there was also an appreciable quantity of land scattered over the counties of Lincoln, Nottingham, Buckingham, Oxford, counties of Lincoln, Nottingham, Buckingham, Oxford, Berkshire, and Surrey. ..... The military importance of this stretch of territory was enormous." From same, p 55: "The first holder of the honour of Pontefract was Ilbert I de Lacy, brother of the first lord of the honour of Weobley, Walter I. Proof of their relationship comes from their estate in NOrmandy. This single holding was held jointly by the descendants of Ilbert I and Walter I by the Norman tenure of parage, under which land was divided amongst the sons and daughters whilst at the same time remaining a single fee. Had it not been originally a family holding this tenure would not have applied, and the details of the dissolution of the joint fee show that the family link must have been via Ilbert and Walter as sons of the same father. The senior branch of the family was probably that of Ilbert of Pontefract. He followed his Norman overlord into England, whereas Walter arrived in the train of William fitz Osbern, much as a younger son might do. In all probability the younger brother would have no obligation to follow his liege lord outside Normandy and thus might choose to attach himself to the most convenient leader he could find. An additional piece of evidence comes from the grant of twenty- two acres of land at Montmain to the nunnery of St. Amand by Emma, the mother of Ilbert de Lacy. She was categorically described as Ilbert 's mother, to distinguish her from the abbess of St. Amand, whose name was also Emma. This implies either that Ilbert was the more important of the two brothers in Normandy, and under the rules of tenure by parage therefore the elder, or else that Walter was not Emma's son, but a cousin. As this would have been impossible, in view of the later descent of the fee, it is most likely that Ilbert was the elder. Little is known about either of the brothers. They were not, for example, amongst the favoured few whose participation at the battle of Hastings can be proved. Ilbert I was probably born not later than 1045, though this is little more than a guess based on the likely assumption that he came over in 1066, and was enfeoffed as a tenant of Bishop Odo soon afterward. He was still alive shortly after Odo's banishment on 14 November 1088. It is possible that he was alive in or soon after 1091, but he was undoubtedly dead by the end of the reign of Rufus, for by that time he had been succeeded by his son Robert I. Little more is known about his family. His wife's name was Hawise, and that is the total extent of information about her." From same, p 58: "It has been frequently stated that the abbot of Selby from 1096/7 to 1122/3 was Hugh de Lacy, son of Ilbert I. ..... There is no medieval evidence that the surname of Abbot Hugh was 'de Lacy', even though the introduction and the index in the published edition of the Selby cartulary use it. The error can be traced to Burton, who committed it for the first time in 1758 [J. Burton, *Monastican Eboracense*, p 405]. Burton quoted as his authority Dugdale's *Monasticon*, of nearly a century earlier, but Dugdale only called him Abbot Hugh, with no surname -- and no pre-Reformation account adds any surname either. Hugh de Lacy, as abbot of Selby, is undoubtedly an eighteenth century promotion."
Family 1: Mary de Muritan, b. 3 OCT 1040 in Halton by Leeds, Yorkshire, England, United Kingdom d. 2 MAY 1109 in Yorkshire, England, United Kingdom
Family 2: Hawise de Limesi, b. ABT 1021 in Halton, Cheshire, England d. ABT 1090 in Halton, Cheshire, England
- Walter de Lacy, b. ABT 1038 in Lassy, Calvados, Normandy, France d. 22 MAR 1085 in St. Peters, Hereford, Herefordshire, England
Sources:
- Title: Legacy NFS Source: Ilbert de Laci -
Author: Stirnet.com, Peter Barns-Graham, Chairman, Name: http://www.stirnet.com;, Page number: Lacy1
Note: Peter Barns-Graham, Chairman, Stirnet.com (http://www.stirnet.com).
Page: Migrated from user-supplied source citation: urn:familysearch:source:3246398939
- Title: Our royal, titled, noble and commoner ancestors
Author: Citations [S6292] Unknown author, Some Early English Pedigrees, by Vernon M. Norr, p. 82. [S11588] Some Early English Pedigrees, by Vernon M. Norr, p. 82.
Publication: Name: https://our-royal-titled-noble-and-commoner-ancestors.com/p678.htm#i20374;
Note: Ilbert de Laci1
Last Edited 4 Apr 2020
M, #20374, b. circa 1040, d. 1093
Father Hugh de Lacey b. c 1006
Mother Emma de Bois L'Eveque
Ilbert de Laci married Hadrude. Ilbert de Laci was born circa 1040 at Loei, Normandy, France. He died in 1093 at Pontrefact, Yorkshire, England.
Family
Hadrude
Children
Hugh de Lacy2
Robert de Laci, Baron Pontefract+ b. c 1070
- Title: Généalogie de Carné
Author: Alain de Carné, Généalogie de Carné, http://a.decarne.free.fr/gencar/gencar.htm.
Note: [PFT:AQ]
[S:Titl] Généalogie de Carné
[S:Auth] Alain de Carné
[S:Publ] http://a.decarne.free.fr/gencar/gencar.htm
[/PFT]
- Title: Foundation for Medieval Genealogy
Publication: Name: https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/enguntlo.htm#_Toc25491888;
Note: ILBERT de Lacy (-[1090/95], bur [Pontefract Priory]). His parentage is confirmed by the undated charter under which [his mother] "Emma mater Hilberti de Lacei" donated property "in monte…Mainart" to Saint-Amand on becoming a nun[6]. The Chronique de Normandie, based on le Roman de Rou, names "le sire de Lacy" (twice) among those who took part in the conquest of England in 1066[7], one of which entries presumably refers to Ilbert de Lacy. A manuscript history of the Lacy family records that “Ilberto de Lacy” accompanied William “the Conqueror” to England and was awarded “dominio et honore de Pontefracto”, adding that he was buried “ad dextrum cornu altaris sancti Benedicti” (which appears from the context to refer to Pontefract Priory)[8]. Domesday Book records “Ilbert de Lacy” holding Tingewick in Rowley Hundred in Buckinghamshire; several properties in Nottinghamshire; numerous properties in Yorkshire; land in Dunholme, Scothern, Stow and Willingham by Stow in Lincolnshire[9]. “Hilbertus de Laceio…cum Hadrude uxore mea” donated property to the Holy Trinity of the Mount, Rouen, for the souls of “…filiique mei Hugonis” who was buried there, by charter dated to [1088/94][10]. King William II confirmed “consuetudinem de castellaria castelli sui” to “Ilberto de Laceio” as held in the time of King William I and of “Baiocensis episcopi”, by charter dated to [1088/95][11]. A charter of King Henry II records donations to York St Mary, including the donation of land “in Meretona et in Gerford” by “Ilbertus de Laci”[12]. The Liber Vitæ of Durham names "Ilbertus de Laceio, Hathewis sua uxor, Rodbertus et Hugo filii eorum"[13]. The date of his death can only be assessed imprecisely, but the documentation suggests that it took place during the first half of the reign of King William II. m HAWISE, daughter of ---. “Robertus de Laceio” founded Pontefract Priory, for the soul of “Hylberti patris mei et Hawisiæ matris meæ”, by undated charter[14]. “Hilbertus de Laceio…cum Hadrude uxore mea” donated property to the Holy Trinity of the Mount, Rouen, for the souls of “…filiique mei Hugonis” who is buried there, by charter dated to [1088/94][15]. It is not known whether “Hadrude” was a mistranscription for Hawise, or whether Ilbert had two wives with these names. A manuscript history of the Lacy family records that “Ilberto de Lacy…uxor eius” was buried “ad sinistrum cornu altaris [sancti Benedicti]” (which appears from the context to refer to Pontefract Priory)[16]. The Liber Vitæ of Durham names "Ilbertus de Laceio, Hathewis sua uxor, Rodbertus et Hugo filii eorum"[17].
Ilbert & his wife had [three] children:
ROBERT de Lacy (-[1108/29], bur Pontefract Priory)
HUGH de Lacy (-bur Holy Trinity of the Mount, Rouen)
MATILDA . “Henricum de Laceio” founded Kirkstall Abbey
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