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Llywelyn ap Seisyll of Powys Gwynedd Deheubarth and Wales


Preferred Parents:
Father: Gwerystan Ap Gwaithfoed, b. in Wales   d. 1005 in Y., Somme, Picardie, France
Mother: Nest Verch Cadell, b. 978 in Wales   d. 1007 in Y, Somme, Picardie, France

Family 1: Angharad verch Maredydd,    b. ABT 982 in Dinefwr Castle, Carmarthenshire, Wales    d. 8 MAY 1058 in Castle, Montgomeryshire, Wales
  1. Gruffydd ap Llwelyn, b. ABT 1011     d. 5 AUG 1063 in Wales
Sources:
  1. Title: Find a Grave
    Author: Llwyelyn Ap Seisyll Birth: unknown Death: unknown Burial: Non-Cemetery Burial Memorial #: 175278485 Family Members Spouse Angharad Ferch Maredydd 982-1072 Children Gruffydd Griffith ap Llywelyn 1011-1063 Created by: karla oubre (48819092) Added: 13 Jan 2017 URL: https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/175278485/llwyelyn-ap_seisyll Citation: Find a Grave, database and images (www.findagrave.com/memorial/175278485/llwyelyn-ap_seisyll : accessed 13 July 2021), memorial page for Llwyelyn Ap Seisyll (unknown–unknown), Find a Grave Memorial ID 175278485, ; Maintained by karla oubre (contributor 48819092) Non-Cemetery Burial.
    Publication: Name: https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/175278485/llwyelyn-ap_seisyll;
  2. Title: History points.org - Possible burial site of Llewlyn ap Seisyllt
    Publication: Name: https://historypoints.org/index.php?page=carreg-llywelyn-pentrefoelas;
    Note: Carreg Llywelyn, Pentrefoelas Carreg Llywelyn, or the Levelinus Stone, is an inscribed pillar which may have been created by monks to thank the Llywelyn Fawr, Prince of Wales, for giving them land in this area. The original stone is in the Museum of Wales, Cardiff. The one on display here is an accurate replica. Llywelyn was grandson of Owain Gwynedd, who probably built the castle which stood on the mound near here. Llywelyn inherited his grandfather’s kingdom and was Prince of Gwynedd from 1137 to 1170. He eventually became the first ruler to unite Wales. He gave the monks of Aberconwy Abbey land in Conwy, and around Pentrefoelas. Experts believe the inscription was carved on the standing stone in 1230, 10 years before Llywelyn died. The inscription mixes Welsh and Latin to explain the meaning of Llywelyn’s Latinised name, Levelinus. Other theories have been put forward over the years. Some suggest the stone secretly marked the burial place of Llywelyn the Great’s bones, others that the decapitated body of Llywelyn Ein Llyw Olaf (the last indigenous Prince of Wales) was buried here after he was killed in 1282. Yet another idea is that local ruler Llywelyn ap Seisyllt, killed in battle nearby some 200 years earlier, was buried under the stone.
  3. Title: Wikipedia: Llywelyn ap Seisyll
    Author: John Edward Lloyd (1911). A history of Wales: from the earliest times to the Edwardian conquest. Longmans, Green & Co. editors: John Edward Lloyd, R.T. Jenkins (1959). Dictionary of Welsh Biography. Oxford.
    Publication: Name: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Llywelyn_ap_Seisyll;
    Note: Llywelyn ap Seisyll (died 1023) was an 11th-century King of Gwynedd, Powys and Deheubarth. Llywelyn was the son of Seisyll, a man of whom little is known. Llewelyn first appears on record in 1018, the year he defeated and killed Aeddan ap Blegywryd along with four of his sons and obtained Gwynedd and Powys. In 1022, a man named Rhain the Irishman was made king of Deheubarth; he claimed to be a son of Maredudd ab Owain, whose daughter Angharad had married Llywelyn. Llywelyn made war against Rhain, they fought a battle at Abergwili, and, after a “slaughter on both sides”, Rhain was killed, allowing Llywelyn to take control of Deheubarth. Llywelyn, after his success against Rhain, died in 1023. The Brut y Tywysogion portrays Llywelyn’s reign as one of prosperity saying “complete in abundance of wealth and inhabitants; so that it was supposed there was neither poor nor destitute in all his territories, nor an empty hamlet, nor any deficiency.” Llywelyn was called "King of the Britons" by the Annals of Ulster. Llywelyn had one son called Gruffydd; he did not succeed his father, possibly because he was too young to do so. Gruffydd went on to become the first and only true King of Wales (the only one to rule over all the territory), however, he was killed by his own men in 1063. Gruffydd’s own sons Maredudd and Idwal died in 1069, fighting at the Battle of Mechain. As Llewelyn's grandfather is not known some scholars have said it was a man named Ednowain or Owain, others Rhodri. Yet a more likely proposition is that Llewelyn was a nephew to King Cadell ap Brochwel of Powys, son of his younger brother Seisyll and that he did not acquire Powys by conquest but hereditary right and then conquered Gwynedd from Aeddan son of Blegywryd.
  4. Title: Llwyelyn Ap Seisyll, "Find A Grave Index"
    Author: "Find A Grave Index," database, FamilySearch (https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:Q2BT-YWDK : 8 August 2020), Llwyelyn Ap Seisyll, ; Burial, , ; citing record ID 175278485, Find a Grave, http://www.findagrave.com.
    Publication: Name: https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:Q2BT-YWDK;
  5. Title: Legacy NFS Source: Llywelyn Ap Seisyll - birth: 1002; Wales
    Author: Pullen010502.FTW, Not Given
    Note: birth: 1002; Wales death: 1023; Wales Marriage Fact: Fact 2:
    Page: Migrated from user-supplied source citation: urn:familysearch:source:3245537529
  6. Title: Foundation for Medieval Genealogy
    Author: [399] Gwentian Chronicle, p. 41. [400] Gwentian Chronicle, p. 45. [401] Brut y Tywysogion (Williams), p. 37. [402] Annales Cambriæ, p. 23. [403] Annals of Tigernach II, p. 255. [404] Brut y Tywysogion (Williams), p. 39. [405] Gwentian Chronicle, p. 45. [406] Gwentian Chronicle, p. 41. [407] Brut y Tywysogion (Williams), p. 125. [408] Gwentian Chronicle, p. 47. [409] Brut y Tywysogion (Williams), p. 81.
    Publication: Name: https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/WALES.htm;
    Note: D. KINGS of GWYNEDD, family of LLYWELYN ap Seisell SEISYLL, son of --- . He is named in the source cited below as father of Llywelyn, but no primary source has yet been identified which names him in his own capacity. m PRAUST of Gwynedd, daughter of ELISEDD ap Anarawd of Gwynedd & his wife ---. The primary source which confirms her parentage and marriage has not yet been identified. Seisyll & his wife had four children: 1. LLYWELYN ap Seisyll ([after 980]-[1021/23]). [The Gwentian Chronicle records "Llywelyn son of Seisyllt lord of Maes Essyllt…although but a youth not more than fourteen years of age" marrying in 994[399].] He succeeded in 999 as King of Gwynedd and Dyfed. The Gwentian Chronicle records that "Llewelyn son of Seisyllt" killed in battle "Aeddan son of Blegywyrd and his four nephews" in 1015 and "took the government upon himself"[400]. The Chronicle of the Princes of Wales records that "a certain Scot falsely pretended to be the son of king Maredudd and caused himself to be named king…Rein" in 1020 and "Llywelyn son of Seisyll, supreme king of Gwynedd and the chief and most renowned king of all the Britons made war against him"[401]. The Annales Cambriæ record the death in 1023 of "Lewelin filius Seisil"[402]. The Annals of Tigernach record that “Leobelín rí Bretan” died in [1021/23][403]. The Chronicle of the Princes of Wales records that "Llywelyn son of Seisyll died" in 1021[404]. [The Gwentian Chronicle records that "Llywelyn son of Seisyllt and Cynan son of Seisyllt" opposed "the Scots [who] came to Carmarthen accompanied by Hywel and Maredydd sons of Edwin son of Einion" in 1021 but that Llywelyn was killed in the battle[405].] m (994) as her first husband, ANGHARAD of Gwynedd, daughter of MAREDUDD King of Deheubarth and Gwynedd & his wife ---. [The Gwentian Chronicle records that "Llywelyn son of Seisyllt lord of Maes Essyllt…although but a youth not more than fourteen years of age" married "Yngharad, daughter of Meredydd on of Owain" in 994[406].] Her first marriage is confirmed by the Chronicle of the Princes of Wales which records that "Bleddyn son of Cynvyn [and] Gruffudd son of Llywelyn…were brothers by the same mother…Angharad daughter of Meredudd king of the Britons"[407]. She married secondly (1023) Cynfyn ap Gwerstan King of Powys. [The Gwentian Chronicle records that "Yngharad the widow of Llywelyn son of Seisyllt married Cynvyn son of Gwerystan lord of Cibwyr" in 1023[408].] The Chronicle of the Princes of Wales records in 1106 that "Bleddyn and Rhiwallon, sons of Cynvyn, were brothers, from Angharad daughter of king Maredudd"[409]. Llywelyn & his wife had four children: 2. HYWEL (-killed in battle 1021). [The Gwentian Chronicle records that "Hywel son of Seisyllt, brother to Llywelyn son of Seisyllt" was defeated and killed in battle by "Eulaf [Olav II King of Norway] [who] came to the island of Britain…to Menevia…and…Dyved" in 1021[416].] 3. CYNAN (-killed 1025). The Chronicle of the Princes of Wales records that "Llywelyn son of Seisyll died" in 1021[417]. [The Gwentian Chronicle records that "Llywelyn son of Seisyllt and Cynan son of Seisyllt" opposed "the Scots [who] came to Carmarthen accompanied by Hywel and Maredydd sons of Edwin son of Einion" in 1021 but that Llywelyn was killed in the battle[418].] The Chronicle of the Princes of Wales records that "Cynan son of Seisyll was killed" in 1025[419]. The Gwentian Chronicle records that "the Saxons came to Glamorgan and the action of Ystradywain was fought where they killed Cynan son of Seisyllt and all his sons", dated to 1032 from the context[420]. m ---. The name of Cynan´s wife is not known. Cynan & his wife had [two or more] children: 4. ROTPERT . [The Gwentian Chronicle records that "Rotpert son of Seisyllt, lord of Maes Essyllt, brother to Cynan son of Seisyllt" defeated "the Saxons" and made peace with "Iestin son of Gwrgan", dated to 1032 from the context[423].] m firstly EVILIAU, daughter of GWRGENEU & his wife ---. [The Gwentian Chronicle records that "Iestin son of Gwrgan…after the death of Denis daughter of Bleddyn son of Cynvyn his first wife" requested in marriage the daughter of "Rotpert son of Seisyllt…Ardden by Eviliau daughter of Gwrgeneu his first wife and was refused by her father on account of her age" but that he "ravished her against her will", dated to [1032/36] from the context[424].] m secondly ---. Rotpert & his first wife had one child:
  7. Title: Ancient Wales Studies
    Author: NOTES: [1] Aneurin Owen "Ancient Laws and Institutes of Wales", 1841, vol i, pp 203 [2] ibid vol ii, pp 211 the "Anomalous Laws" attributed to the 16th century [3] See "Generational Gaps and the Welsh Laws" at the link below: http://www.ancientwalesstudies.org/id22.html [4] Examples include: Cadafael ap Cynfeddw who succeeded Cadwallon ap Cadfan in 634 when Cadwaladr ap Cadwallon was a yet a child, and who may have been the son of Cadfan's sister; and Cynfyn ap Gwerystan who succeeded Llewelyn ap Seisyllt in 1023 when Gruffudd ap Llewelyn was underage, and who was maternal grandson of former king Cadell ap Brochwel. [5] Annals of Loch Ce and Annals of Ulster call Gruffud's killer "son of Iacoib" while British Library Ms Add. 30512 (an Armagh manuscript) says "Channan mac Iacco" [6] See "History of Gruffudd ap Cynan - A New Perspective" at the link below: http://www.ancientwalesstudies.org/id46.html [7] ibid, we posit a Cynan ap Idwal born c. 1014 as a brother of Iago ap Idwal and
    Publication: Name: http://www.ancientwalesstudies.org/id45.html;
    Note: MINIMUM AGE FOR WELSH KINGSHIP IN THE 11th CENTURY By Darrell Wolcott (excerpt) ...We begin assembling our anecdotal evidence with the death of Llewelyn ap Seisyllt in 1023. It appears that an interim king had to be chosen to rule Powys and Gwynedd. His son, Gruffudd, was yet a child and his mother remarried Cynfyn ap Gwerystan. By 1033, a representive of the royal family in Gwynedd reclaimed it's kingship in the person of Iago ap Idwal. And Gruffudd ap Llewelyn became king of Powys in 1039. Our question is why those years? Did they perhaps represent the earliest either man had attained the requisite age to become king? Our reconstruction of the timeline for the pedigrees of the Gwynedd and Powys families points to a birthdate c. 1005 for Iago and 1011 for Gruffudd. Admittedly either date might vary a couple years, but both men appear to have ascended to kingship around age 26/30 and certainly not as young as age 21. Gruffudd would likely have taken a wife shortly after becoming king, bearing children by 1040/41. When he was killed in 1063, he left sons Ithel and Maredudd. But neither of those sons staked a claim to his kingdom until 1069. Again, were they forced to wait until the elder of them had attained a minimum age? Even then, was it particularly wise for them to challenge Rhiwallon and Bleddyn, the sons of Cynfyn who in 1063 had divided Powys and Gwynedd between them with the blessing of King Edward the Confessor? Cynan, son of Iago, would have (under our timeline) attained full age about 1063. Is it only a coincidence that was the year Gruffudd ap Llewelyn was killed, or was Cynan required to act then if he wanted to restore rule of Gwynedd to his lineage? Certain Irish annals actually name him as Gruffudd's killer.[5] In any event, we are told the sons of Cynfyn took rule in both Powys and Gwynedd; any reign of Cynan was short indeed. One could posit from the examples of Iago, Gruffudd, the sons of Gruffudd and the son of Iago, that not only was an heir required to attain a minimum age to become king, say 28, but was actually required to stake his claim at that time or forfeit his right. We cite other examples which tend to support this requirement in our paper relating to Gruffudd ap Cynan in the eleventh century.[6] An incident wholly unexplained by modern historians occurred in 1042 when the Brut noted that Gruffudd ap Llewelyn was "captured" by the "men of Dublin". Two years later, he is reported attacking Hywel ap Edwin and killing him; clearly his confinement was brief and did not affect his ability to retain and expand his kingdom. We would note that when Gruffudd took power in 1039 by killing Iago ap Idwal of Gwynedd, a surviving member of that family named Cynan fled to Ireland. If that man attained "full age" in 1042, could the Brut entry be a record of his attempt to remove Gruffudd and restore Gwynedd to its dynastic family? If so, his coup was short-lived. Unfortunately, history is silent as to why Gruffudd was seized or how he escaped. But the timeline we posit for the Gwynedd family does include a Cynan brother of Iago born c. 1014.[7] It is not our purpose here to argue that age 28 was precisely the time a man attained "full age", but we have selected that number as both fitting the approximate age when rightful heirs staked their claim and one other consideration: for the first 14 years of his life, a male was considered a child; perhaps the next 14 years was devoted to his education and training under his lord. Only when that apprenticeship was completed, we suspect, was he eligible to wield the powers of kingship.
  8. Title: A History of Wales: From the Earliast Times to the Edwardian Conquest
    Publication: Name: https://archive.org/details/ahistorywalesfr01lloygoog;
  9. Title: Legacy NFS Source: Llywelyn Ap Seisyll -
    Author: http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GED&db=timmychew&id=I027793, Tim Chew chew@brand-hyd.com
    Page: Migrated from user-supplied source citation: urn:familysearch:source:3245537530
  10. Title: Legacy NFS Source: Llywelyn Ap Seisyll - death: 1023; Wales
    Author: Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists Who Came to America bef 1760, Frederick Lewis Weis, 7th ed Genealogical Publishing, Baltimore 1992, Not Given (See Notes), Page number: line 176 p 151
    Note: death: 1023; Wales Same ref source as earlier ed, "Ancestral Roots of 60 Colonists who Came to New England 1623-1650" ed 1-6 good to very good Marriage Fact: Same ref source as earlier ed, "Ancestral Roots of 60 Colonists who Came to New England 1623-1650" ed 1-6 good to very good Fact 2: Same ref source as earlier ed, "Ancestral Roots of 60 Colonists who Came to New England 1623-1650" ed 1-6 good to very good
    Page: Migrated from user-supplied source citation: urn:familysearch:source:3245537520
  11. Title: Legacy NFS Source: Llywelyn Ap Seisyll -
    Author: http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GED&db=:2975898&id=I580082933, Pam Miller pammiller247@msn.com
    Page: Migrated from user-supplied source citation: urn:familysearch:source:3245537532
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