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Grimaldus de MONACO I D'Atibes
- Preferred Name: Grimaldus de MONACO I D'Atibes[1] [2]
- Alternate Name: Grimaldus I de MONACO
- Alternate Name: Grimoald De MONACO
- Gender: M
- Birth: ABT 880 in Monaco, Haute-Marne, Champagne-Ardenne, France at LATI: N7.9966 LONG: E0.5306 with note: GEDCOM data
- http://familysearch.org/v1/TitleOfNobility: Prince/Monaco
- http://familysearch.org/v1/TitleOfNobility: Prince de Monaco
- FSID: MFXJ-YTZ
- Death: ABT 968 in Monaco, Haute-Marne, Champagne-Ardenne, France at LATI: N7.9966 LONG: E0.5306 with note: GEDCOM data
- Notes:
=== SURN de Bec
GIVN Grimald
NSFX Prince of ===
SURN de Bec
GIVN Grimald
NSFX Prince of Monaco
_UID EA44A0944F1ED71187350050DABA2B67E96B
Source: Family History of John Carson Crow & Faye Garnett Woodward Entries: 19863 Updated: Fri Dec 13 08:21:15 2002 Contact: John Crow
DATE 2 Jan 2003
TIME 14:59:39
=== !Name,Bd,pla,Parents,Spouse,Bap,End,SP-T ===
!Name,Bd,pla,Parents,Spouse,Bap,End,SP-TIB FHL 884548
===
The early history of the Grimaldi line ===
The early history of the Grimaldi line in early England is not well
established. The following account is from: "FALAISE ROLL, RECORDING
PROMINENT COMPANIONS OF WILLIAM DUKE OF NORMANDY AT THE CONQUEST OF
ENGLAND by William Crispin, Princton University, 1896 and Leonce
Macary , professor of the College of Falaise O.I." published by the
American Genealogist, Volume XVI, Number 1, July 1939. Page 66 and 67.
Much of this information was taken from articles written by Stacey
Grimaldi in the GENTLEMAN'S MAGAZINE of October 1832 which published a
genealogy of the Grimaldi-Crispin-Toustain Fitz Rou de Bec (Whitney)
lines:
"Crispina, a supposed daughter of Rollo, first duke of Normandy,
married Grimaldus I, prince of Monaco, c. 920, and had issue Guido,
Prince of Monaco, Giballinus, a celebrated warrior against the
Saaracens, and Ansgothus Crispinus, who settled in Normandy and
possessed the barony of Bec. The latter, (Ansgothus), married Heloise,
daughter of Rodulph, count of Guynes and Boulogne, by Roselle,
daughter of the count Saint-Paul, whose children were Herluin, abbot
of Bec, Gilbert baron of Bec, lord of Tillieres, constable of Normandy
and marshal of the army, who relinquished the surname Grimaldi to
assume that of Crispin, Odo and Roger, both named in a charter by
abbot Herlluin as his brothers, and Rollo or Rolf. This pedigree
asserts that Gilbert Crispin was the father of William Crispin, baron
of Bec, Gilbert Crispin, Lord of Tilleires, and Milo Crispin.
It furthur records that Rolf had two sons, Gosfrid Fitz Rou du Bec,
the Conqueror's marshal, and Toustain Fitz Rou le Blanc, the standard
bearer, sometimes called du Bec. ( Toustain, after being awaded
thousands of acres of land and many thanes by William the Conquerer,
after the victory over England in 1066 at the Battle of Hastings,
married Agnes daughter of Alfred de Marlbourough and had two sons
Rollo and Eustace. Euastace settled on Toustan's land at Whitney in
Herferdshire and eventualy took the name for his own and became
Eustace Whitney. Eustace is the first of the Whitney surname from
which all other Whitney's came.)
Duke Rollo had only one daughter mentioned in history, Gerlotte, later
called Adele, who married William, count of Poitou and duke of
Aquitaine (932-63), and if he had another daughter by the name of
Crispina, it is nowhere else recorded.
There was no barony of Bec in the Crispin family before c. 1250 which
has been identified, and no prince of Monaco until the 13th Century.
"The first authentic ancestor of this family was Otto Canella, (died
1142), whose son Grimaldo was thrice consul of Genoa from 1162 to
1184. These great Genoese lords did not come to Monaco until 1270,
whence they were driven by the Gibelins. This genealogy was composed
in 1646 by Charles de Venasque-Ferriol, secretary of Honore II, prince
of Monaco, and Jean Le Laboureur, the historian, Renee du Bec-Crispin,
and her husband Jean Baptiste de Budes, comte de Guebriant, and
Perigord, under the title, of HISTORICA ET GENELOGICA GRIMALDA GENTIS
ARBOR. Although it was published by Ferriol, the clever work of Le
Laboureur can easily be detedted. Countess Renee in 1645 escorted the
queen of Poland from fParis to her estate, on which account she was
granted the title of ambassadrice extraordinaire de France, an honour
never accorded to tany other lady: she was also lady of honour to
Marie-Therese.
These powerfiul families with the desire to obtain a Carlovingian
descent through Grimoald, duke of Brabant, son of Pepin d'Heristal,
(slain 714), imagined a fabulous Grimaldus to whom according to an
apocryphal manuscript exhumed at the library of Ambrois at Milan, the
emperor Otho gave, about 960, the sovereignty of Monaco. It was this
recorded Grimaldus (700), count of Flanders and mayor of the palace,
son of Pepin, by his wife Theodesinde had Theobald (750) married to
Aliarde, whose son Hugo Grimaldus (800) had Passanus (850), who was
the father of Grimalduls I, prince of Monaco, married to Crispina.
Charles III, prince of Monaco (1856-89), branding this pedigree as
untrue, gave an order to his successive archivists, Cais de Pierlas,
Saige and Labande, to write a correct one founded on authentic
documents and not falsified as this one and the famous donation of the
gulf de Sambracie, later called gulf de Grimaud (Saint-Tropez in 980)
admittedly were.
Nevertheless, the Grimaldi found their Arms were identical with those
of the Crispins of Normandy which had been on record before their
advent to Monaco, both of whom bore fusily argent and gules.
It is a very strange coincidence that such distinguished and
influential families had the same armorial bearings, but with so
simple a coat great importance cannot be attached to it unless
fortified with other evidences of relationsshjip. Miles Crispin
appears on the Battle Abby Roll under the name of Valingford."
There is much information in the above quoted passages about various
families. It also brings up the disagrement betwee genealogists and
historians of these early lines. I would hope that more and better
documents can be found to either substantiate of repudate Stacy
Grimaldi's claims on the accuracy of his Genealogy in 1832.
Information I have found on the Whitney and Crispin side of the
question supports Stacy Grimaldi's assertions and when one looks at
the Heraldic ARMS used by both the Crispin and Grimali families and
see that they are exactly the same it lends creedance to Stacy
Grimaldies position.
=== See Historical Document.
See Historical ===
See Historical Document.
See Historical Document.
See historical document.
=== ! ! ! ! ! !Plantagenet Ancestry and LDS ===
! ! ! ! ! !Plantagenet Ancestry and LDS Book on Royalty LDS Family History Library Rogers Arkansas Pedigrees of Some of the Emperor Charlemagne's Descendants page 292
=== All details for this living person have ===
All details for this living person have been suppressed.
=== wife = Crispina ===
wife = Crispina
=== SURN Grimaldis I
NSFX Prince of Monaco
R ===
SURN Grimaldis I
NSFX Prince of Monaco
REPO @REPO1@
TITL Robert Malet.GED
ABBR Robert Malet.GED
Source Media Type: Other
_MASTER Y
DATA
TEXT Date of Import: Mar 24, 1999
[Robert Malet.GED]
!Source:
FGS in John Stock Family file.
REPO @REPO1@
TITL Robert Malet.GED
ABBR Robert Malet.GED
Source Media Type: Other
_MASTER Y
DATA
TEXT Date of Import: Mar 24, 1999
=== !DEATH:The Plantagenet Ancestry, by Wil ===
!DEATH:The Plantagenet Ancestry, by William Henry Turton, 1 968, The Plantagenet Ancestry, by William Henry Turton, 196 8, 134 !GENERAL:GEDCOM file imported on 24 Mar 2003., GEDCOM fil e imported on 24 Mar 2003.
Preferred Parents:
Father: Gibellinus de Sr Tropez Sr,
Family 1: Crespina de Normandie, b. 920 in Rouen, Seine-Maritime, Haute-Normandie, France d. 19 JUL 1002 in Monte Carlo, Monaco
- m. 899 in Normandy, France
- Lady Helena Crispin, b. BEF 949 in Brionne, Eure, Haute-Normandie, France d. 1033 in Suffolk, England
Sources:
- Title: Legacy NFS Source: Grimaldis I Prince of Monaco -
Author: The Plantagenet Ancestry, by William Henry Turton {1968}, Page number: 134
Note: Source Media Type: Book
Page: Migrated from user-supplied source citation: urn:familysearch:source:2736742370
- Title: Legacy NFS Source: Grimaldis I Prince of Monaco - birth-name: Grimald Of Monaco
Author: Public Member Trees, Ancestry.com, Name: Ancestry.com Operations, Inc.; Location: Provo, UT, USA; Date: 2006;, www.ancestry.com, null, Page number: Database online.
Note: birth-name: Grimald Of Monaco
aka-name: Grimald Monaco
birth: 0920; ,,,Monaco
death: 0968; ,,,Monaco
Page: Migrated from user-supplied source citation: urn:familysearch:source:3244437348
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