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Llywarch ap Cynhaethwy Lord of Menai
- Preferred Name: Llywarch ap Cynhaethwy Lord of Menai[1] [2] [3] [4] [5]
- Alternate Name: Lomarch an Bran
- Gender: M
- Birth: ABT 1130 in Anglesey, Wales at LATI: N3.2913 LONG: E4.372 with note: GEDCOM data
- LdsBaptism: 21 MAR 1936 with note: GEDCOM data. from merge
- http://familysearch.org/v1/TitleOfNobility: Lord of Cummwd Menai
- Fact: with note: Description: https://www.geni.com/people/Llywarch-ap-Bran-Lord-of-Menai/6000000003649638540?through=6000000025835050108
from merge
- FSID: M35R-6CB
- Death: 5 DEC 1171 in Anglesey, Wales at LATI: N3.2913 LONG: E4.372 with note: GEDCOM data
- LdsEndowment: 18 JAN 1938 with note: GEDCOM data;from merge
- Notes:
=== Life Sketch ===
http://www.ancientwalesstudies.org/id32.html:
LLOWARCH AP BRAN - LORD OF MENAI, By Darrell Wolcott
Many leading families of Anglesey trace their descent to this early twelfth century nobleman but the pedigrees they cast contain an abundance of misinformation. Most of the errors and omissions stem from like-named men who have been confused with each other, and this is true even for his ancestry from Tudwal Gloff ap Rhodri Mawr. Both our work and that of noted Welsh genealogist Peter Bartrum point to a birthdate near 1120 for Llowarch.
PROBLEM # 1 - The ancestry of Llowarch:
Tudwal Gloff was perhaps the youngest son of Rhodri Mawr, too young to have taken part in the battle when his father was killed in 878, but received the leg wound which accounts for his nickname "the lame" in the 881 "revenge of Rhodri" battle of Conwy.[1] A birthdate near 865 is indicated since no boys younger than 14 were sent into battle. If Llowarch ap Bran were born 255 years later, he would be in the 8th following generation, not the 6th as shown by many pedigrees.[2] We believe the descent was as follows:
865 Tudwal Gloff
895 Alser
930 Aelan
965 Alser *
995 Aelan
1030 Eunydd
1060 Dyfnwal
1090 Bran
1120 Llowarch
*Most extant pedigrees skip from this Alser directly to Tudwal Gloff; this chart may be compared to that found in our paper "Llewelyn ap Hoedliw, Lord of Is Cerdin"
Pen. 142, 101 mentions an Aelan ap Alser ap Tudwal Gloff who had a son, Llawr, a man born c. 960. It is thus possible that the Eunydd in our chart was "ap Aelan ap Alser ap Aelan ap Alser ap Tudwal" and that his pedigrees simply omit one pair of "Aelan ap Alser" by scribes who assumed it was a duplication.[3]
[1] Brut y Tywysogyon, entries for 878 and 88
[2] HLG 4a makes Llowarch "ap Bran ap Dyfnwal ap Eunydd ap Aelan ap Alser ap Tudwal" Gloff.
[3] Noted historian Henry Rowlands, whose work "Antiquitates Parochiales" published in Archaeologia Cambrensis in 1849, cited Llowarch as sixth in descent from Tudwal Gloff. However, the editor of Philip Yorke's 1887 work "The Royal Tribes of Wales" notes that Llowarch was eighth in descent from Tudwal, but does not name the intervening generations.
Preferred Parents:
Father: Bran ap Dyfnwal Anglesey, b. ABT 1090 in Gwynedd, Wales, United Kingdom d. 1129 in Picardy, Isère, Auvergne-Rhône-Alpes, France
Mother: Gwaig Bran Ap Dyfnwal, b. 1100 in Wales d. 1127
Family 1: Gwanllian ferch Cynan, b. ABT 1120 in Wales
Family 3: Rhael ferch Gronwy, b. 1110 in Menai Bridge, Anglesey, Wales d. 1167 in Wales
- Cadwgan ap Llywarch, b. ABT 1133 in Anglesey, Wales d. DECEASED in Isle of Anglesey, Wales, United Kingdom
- Meredydd Ap Llywarch, b. ABT 1143 in Anglesey, Wales
- Einudd ap Llywarch, b. ABT 1145 in Menai Bridge, Isle of Anglesey, Wales, United Kingdom d. 1168
- Tangwystl verch Llywarch, b. ABT 1150 in Anglesey, Wales d. 21 JUL 1239 in , Gwynedd Co, Wales
- Iorwerth ap Llywarch, b. 1147 in Menai cmt, Anglesey, Wales
Family 4: Llywarch ap Bran, b. ABT 1154 in Wales
Sources:
- Title: Ancient Wales Studies
Publication: Name: http://www.ancientwalesstudies.org/id32.html;
Note: LLOWARCH AP BRAN - LORD OF MENAI; By Darrell Wolcott
- Title: Annals and Antiquities of the county and county families of Wales containing pedigrees of old families of wales
Author: Google search for old wales books
Publication: Name: https://archive.org/stream/annalsantiquitie01nich#page/362/mode/2up/search/Vaynol;
Note: Gives relationship and dates of the Williams family of Vaynol, on page 362 starting with Rhys ap Gruffydd of Dinefawr, going through the lineage of the Williams of Vaynol, and Cochwillan
Page: page 362 shows relationship to daughter
- Title: Legacy NFS Source: Llywarch ap Cynhaethwy - birth: 1100; Carmarthenshire, Wales
Author: One World Tree (sm), Ancestry.com, Name: Provo, UT, USA: The Generations Network, Inc., n.d.;, www.ancestry.com
Note: birth: 1100; Carmarthenshire, Wales
Source Medium: Ancestry.com
birth: 1100; Carmarthenshire, Wales
Source Medium: Ancestry.com
Source Medium: Ancestry.com
Source Medium: Ancestry.com
Page: Migrated from user-supplied source citation: urn:familysearch:source:3244922896
- Title: The National Library of Wales Llywarch Lord of Menai
Publication: Name: http://yba.llgc.org.uk/en/s-LLYW-APB-1137.html;
Note: shows who he was and time frame
- Title: A Genealogical and Heraldic Dictionary of the Peerage and Baronetage of the ... Percy family and Hugh Owen Marriage
Author: Search for the Percy family and Owen Family marriage
Publication: Name: https://books.google.com/books?id=-jg_AAAAcAAJ&pg=PA1123&lpg=PA1123&dq=heraldic+visitations+of+wales+Owen+of+Orielton&source=bl&ots=0RtwzQVGh0&sig=TpifYd5BnO0B45bmXztQWBZZLP0&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjt2oyQyYXbAhXI4IMKHTYOCPgQ6AEIUzAJ#v=onepage&q=%20Percy&f=false;
Note: Shows history of the Percy family and Hugh owen of Orielton on page 749 second column under Henry Percy 8th earl shows Lucy married Sir john Wotton and then Hugh owen of Orielton,
Page: page 318 shows relationship to father Lowarch ap heilyn Gloff and his brother Tudor ap Heilyn and Grandparents Gwilliam ap Madok ap Malok Kroun and Sionett verch Heilyn . Goes back from them. Continues on to page 319 and 320 showing this family and how the name changed to Price
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