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Thomas Fychan Awbrey III III
- Preferred Name: Thomas Fychan Awbrey III III[1] [2] [3]
- Alternate Name: Thomas Awbrey Goch
- Alternate Name: Thomas Fychan Awbrey
- Alternate Name: The Ranger of Brecknock Forest
- Gender: M
- Nickname:
- Death: Y
- Birth: ABT 1299 in Breconshire, Wales at LATI: N1.9489 LONG: E3.3913 with note: https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Awbrey-247
- FSID: LZPF-PWG
- Notes:
=== !#4569-v2-p192; !ASSUMPTION: place of re ===
!#4569-v2-p192; !ASSUMPTION: place of residence unknown, placed here for recording purposes;
=== Thomas Aubrey and his wife Nest ferch Ow ===
Thomas Aubrey and his wife Nest ferch Owain Gethin are at the top of table "Aubrey 1" on p. 44 of volume 1 of Bartrum's *Welsh Genealogies AD 1400-1500* [Aberystwyth: National Library of Wales, 1983]. This table and the following tables (through "Aubrey 6") are their descendants down to those born in or a little after 1500 Thomas "Fychan" Awbrey (bc 1234 Breck- nockshire, Wales) marr. Nest Verch Owen Gethyn (b 1250), dtr of Owen Gethyn & Gwennllian Godwin. Owen was paternally descended from Blethin Mayarnch, Lord of Brecknock. Thomas, ranger of Breckneck Forest, was often called "The Red Constable". Children of Thomas & Nest were Richard Thomas (bc 1268) & Gruffydd (bc 1270 Thomas Awbrey (Red-haired) ; sometimes called Thomas Awbrey hen and also Y.Constabl Coch. Abt in Abercynfrig, Wales. He was an officer under the Duke of Buckingham Constable and Ranger of the Forest of Brecknock. *Thomas wife was Nest verch Owain Gethyn of Glyn Tawe;ap Maenarch. She bore Azure, a buck springing forward argent, attired or The Parliamentary Writs make mention of two Awbrey of co. Hereford, possibly related to or identical with the Awbreys of Brecknock. John Awbrey was a lord of the township of Much-Cowaren, co. Hereford 9 Edward II and manucaptor the Adam de Halnake, M.P. for that shire. Also Thomas Awbrey was a lord of the township of Thorndon Roudon and Waocton co. Hereford 9 Edward II.
=== He was an officer under the Duke of Buck ===
He was an officer under the Duke of Buckingham Constable and Ranger of the Forest of Brecknock. Thomas Awbrey of Abrerkynfrig had a son Thomas Awbrey Goch (Red-haired) who married Nest, daughter of Owanin Gethy, of Glyn Taway.
=== BIRTH-MARRIAGE:"A HISTORY OF THE COUNTY ===
BIRTH-MARRIAGE:"A HISTORY OF THE COUNTY OF BRECKNOCK", by Theophilus Jones, pub. in London, England, in 1805. LDS FHC microfilm #0990114, p. 466. BIRTH-MARRIAGE:"BRYCHAN BRYCHEINOG AND HIS DESCENDANTS", LDS FHC microfilm #0104390, item #2. BIRTH:"WELSH GENEALOGIES AD300-1400," by Peter Clement Bartrum, published by The University of Wales Press, 1980. BIRTH-MARRIAGE:"COAT OF ARMS-ARMS OF PEDIGREES", p. 114. LDS FHC microfilm #0104385. BIRTH-MARRIAGE:HARLEY 2289, microfilm from The British Library, London, England. !Constable and Ranger of Brecon Forest.
=== !#4568> Welsh Genealogies Ad 300-1400,-v ===
!#4568> Welsh Genealogies Ad 300-1400,-v3-p113,-v5-p330 (FHL 942.9 D2fw); #4569> Welsh Genealogies Ad 1400-1500,-v1-p44* (FHL 942.9 D2fw); !OCC> Constable Coch (Constable and Ranger (Forester) of the Forest of Brecon; OCC> Officer under Duke of Buckingham; ORD> TIB> SLAKE: Bap> SL22573, End> 31174-6V-1485; !IDENTITY> #4569-v1-p44> for ancestry see SB 105, SA 96, LD ii 57, SE 181-2, SG 344, Brec 211, HT1 250;
=== !#4569-v1-p49*; v2-p201; ===
!#4569-v1-p49*; v2-p201;
=== Constable of Brecknock Forest. ===
Constable of Brecknock Forest.
Preferred Parents:
Father: Thomas Fychan Awbrey II, b. ABT 1220 in Abercynrig, Breconshire, Wales d. in Abercynrig, Breconshire, Wales
Mother: Joan ap Einon Trahearn, b. ABT 1230 in Brecon, Wales, United Kingdom d. DECEASED
Family 1: Nest Verch Owen Gethyn, b. ABT 1304 in Wales, United Kingdom d. in Abercynrig, Breconshire, Wales, United Kingdom
- Richard Awbrey, b. 1329 in Abercynfrig, Breconshire, Wales d. in Abercynrig, Breconshire, Wales
Sources:
- Title: Legacy NFS Source: Thomas Awbrey - birth: 1299; Wales, United Kingdom
Author: Family Search
Note: birth: 1299; Wales, United Kingdom
Page: Migrated from user-supplied source citation: urn:familysearch:source:2665120723
- Title: 5th June 1863, Pedigrees - Awbrey of Abercynvrig and Llantrithyd
Author: 5th June 1863 The Cardiff and Merthyr Guardian Glamorgan Monmouth and Brecon Gazette Page 7
Publication: Name: https://newspapers.library.wales/view/3093596/3093603/49/awbrey;
Note: A running four week article on the Awbrey family predigree
5th June 1863
12th June 1863
19th June 1863
26th June 1863
- Title: Wales Names, Personal - Patronymic Names - FamilySearch Wiki
Author: FamilySearch Wiki Wales Names, Personal Bibliographic details for Wales Names, Personal Page name: Wales Names, Personal Author: FamilySearch Wiki contributors Publisher: FamilySearch Wiki, . Date of last revision: 20 June 2019 20:19 UTC Date retrieved: 30 March 2020 05:04 UTC Permanent URL: https://www.familysearch.org/wiki/en/index.php?title=Wales_Names,_Personal&oldid=3626033 Page Version ID: 3626033
Publication: Name: https://www.familysearch.org/wiki/en/index.php?title=Wales_Names,_Personal&oldid=3626033;
Note: Patronymic Names
Before record keeping began, most people only had a first name. As the population increased, people began adding descriptive information, such as John "the smith," to a person’s name to distinguish him or her from others with the same name. At first, a surname applied only to one person and not to the whole family.
Patronymic surnames are based on the father’s given name. Generally, ap or ab was added between the child’s name and the father’s name. For example, David ab Owen is David "son of" Owen. For a woman’s name, the word ferch or verch (often abbreviated to vch), meaning "daughter of", was used. There were many exceptions to this:
The family could drop the 'ab' or 'ap'. In this case, his name would have been simply David Owen.
The family could drop the 'a' and attach the remaining 'p' or 'b' to the father’s name. For example, 'David ab Owen' could have been 'David Bowen'.
In dealing with patronymic names, remember:
The absence of 'ap' or 'ab' does not mean the family adopted a permanent surname. In south Wales particularly, patronymic surnames appeared without the 'ap' or 'ab'.
Different naming patterns were often used in the same family. For example, Harry John’s six sons were named Griffith ap Harry, John Parry, Harry Griffith, Richard Parry, Miles ap Harry, and Thomas Parry. They might equally have used the surname John(s) or Jones.
An illegitimate child may have used the given or surname of the reputed father, the surname of the mother, or the given or surname of the family who raised the child.
Some families used patronymics after adopting a permanent surname. Never assume that a surname is a permanent surname.
The father’s given name may be spelled differently as a surname even though it is pronounced the same (for example, Davies from David).
The name may have been anglicized.
Patronymic surnames changed with each generation.
A widow may have reverted to using her maiden surname.
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