Pagamus De Turberville

• Preferred Name: Pagamus De Turberville^{[1] [2] [3] [4] [5] [6] [7] [8] [9] [10] [11]}
  
• Gender: M
  
• Death: 1207 in Llanharry, Rhondda Cynon Taff, Wales at LATI: N1.5142 LONG: E3.4272
  
• Birth: 1140 in Coity Castle, Bridgend, Glamorgan, Wales at LATI: N1.4991 LONG: E3.5767
  
• Burial: 1207 in Ewenny Priory, Ewenny, Glamorgan, Wales at LATI: N1.4798 LONG: E3.5577
  
• FSID: MMKW-ZSB
  
• Notes:

  === Life Sketch ===
  sir Payne II Turberville
  s/o sir Gilbert I Turberville & Agnes
  b-
  m- Maud d/o Morgan Gam ap Cradoc ao Jestyn
  d-
  
  One of twelve Knights who accompanied Sir Robert Fitz Hammon to the aid of Jestyn ap Gurgant, king of Glamaorganshire, against Rhese, prince of South Wales, about the year 1090. Once Rhese was dead, however, Fitz Hammon turned his forces against Jestyn and conquered his whole dominion. He divided the land amongst his followers, giving Sir Payn de Turberville the castle and lordship of Coyty. Sir Payn confirmed his right by marrying the heiress of the last possessor of land and castle, a descendent of Jestyn ap Gurgant. He had three sons with her, and was succeeded by the eldest, Sir Simon de Turberville. Sir Simon died without issue, leaving his brother, Sir Gilbert, as heir to both the lordship of Coyty, and of Crûg Howell (now Crickhowell). Sir Gilbert had a son by his wife, Agnes, whom he named Payne. Sir Payne (the younger) had two sons- the eldest, his heir, named Gylbert/Gilbert, and the younger named Ermerod. Sir Gylbert became lord of Coyty Castle, while his brother, Sir Ermerod, became lord of Crûg Howell.
  
  See "Burke's Genealogical and Heraldic History of the Landed Gentry".
  
  Site Ref: https://www.geni.com/people/Sir-Payn-de-Turberville/6000000003051203638
  
  === BIRTH-DEATH:"WELSH GENEALOGIES AD300-140 ===
  BIRTH-DEATH:"WELSH GENEALOGIES AD300-1400," by Peter Clement Bartrum, published by The University of Wales Press, 1980.
  
  === Turberville, of Coyty Castle
  
  This ancie ===
  Turberville, of Coyty Castle
  
  This ancient and knightly family (the most powerful of all the Normans that settled in Glamorganshire) were, previous to their advent int that county, Lords of Crug Howell (now written Crickhowell), in Brecknockshire, which they obtained at the conquest of Brecknock, from Sir Bernard Newmarch, the Norman knight, who, in the early part of William Rufus' reign, entered Brecknockshire, and won the lordship from the then possessor, Bleddyn ap Maenyrch, a Welsh Prince.
  
  Sir Payn de Turberville, was one of the twelve knights who accompanied Sir Robert Fitz Hammon to the aid of Jestin ap Gurgant, king of Glamorgan, against Rhese, prince of South Wales, about the year 1090. Subsequently on the death of Rhese, Fitz Hammon, turning his forces against Jestin, and conquering his whole dominion, divided it amongst his followers. To the share of Sir Payn de Turberville, were allotted the castle and lordship of Coyty, and he confirmed his right by marrying the heiress of the last possessor, a descendant of Jestyn ap Gurgant. Sir Payn had three sons, and was s. by the eldest. [Burkes Commoners IV:652-3]
  
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  In Wales the descendants of Sir Pain de Turgerville, one of the twelve knights of Robert FitzHamon, continued till the last century. Sir Edward Mansel relates, that when Fitz Hamon had succeeded in wresting Glamorgan from Rhys, Prince of South Wales, and "after eleven of the knights had been endowed with land for their services, Pain Turbervill asked Sir Robert what was his share? to which Sir Robert answered 'Here are men and here are arms; go get it where you can.' So Pain Turbervill with the men went to Coity, and sent to Morgan the Welsh lord to ask whether he would yield up the castle: whereupon Morgan brought out his daughter Sara (Sar or Assar) by the hand, and passing through the army with his sword in his right hand, came to Pain Turberville, and told him if he would marry his daughter, and so come like an honset man into his castle, that he would yield it to him quietly; and 'if not,' he said, 'let not the blood of any of our men be lost, but let this sword and arm of mine, and those of yours, decide which shall call the castle his own.' Upon this, Pain Turbervill drew his sword, and took it by the blade in his left hand, and gave it to Morgan, and with his right hand embraced his daughter; and after settling every matter to the liking of both sides, he went with her to church and married her, and so came the lordship by true right of possession, and, being so counselled by Morgan, kept two thousand of the best of his Welsh soldiers in his castle." Coity (Anglice, wood-house) near Bridgend, was held by eleven generations of his descendants, ending with Sir Richard Turbervill, who leaving no legitimate son to succeed him, settled his property on the son of his sister Catherine, Sir Laurence Berkerolles, Lord of St Athan's. But this nephew likewise had no heir, and died a horrible death in 1412. His wife Maud, the daughter of Sir Thomas Despencer of Caerphilly, was found guilty of having "poisoned him so that he died," and expiated her crime by a frightful penalty. She "was buried alive, agreeable to the sentence pronounced upon her by the country and the lord, Sir Richard Begam, Lord of Glamorgan." Coity passed to the Gamages. [Battle Abbey Roll III:190]
  
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  Payn (Paganus) I was apparently granted the lordship of Coity, comprising the manors of Coity Anglia and Coity Wallia, by Robert Fitzhamon. Alone among the Glamorgan lordships it was held on the easy tenure of sergeanty of hunting, probably because of the importance of its strategic position. Payn I was known as 'the Demon' ('Y Cyrthraul"), but nothing is known of the reasons for this derogatory epithet. He only appears as witness to charters in 1126 and 1129. The pleasant story of his marriage to the daughter of the Welsh chieftain of Coity, and the less pleasant story of his giving Fitzhamon a blow that rendered him imbecile, seem to be devoid of historical foundation. [Dictionary of Welsh Biography 988]
  
  === SORLEY'S PEDIGREES (GS NUMBER 929.242 SO ===
  SORLEY'S PEDIGREES (GS NUMBER 929.242 SO68) P.39;
  
  === children known ===
  children known
  
  === Payn (Paganus) I was apparently granted ===
  Payn (Paganus) I was apparently granted the lordship of Coity, comprising the manors of Coity Anglia and Coity Wallia, by Robert Fitzhamon. Alone among the Glamorgan lordships it was held on the easy tenure of sergeanty of hunting, probably because of the importance of its strategic position. Payn I was known as 'the Demon' ('Y Cyrthraul"), but nothing is known of the reasons for this derogatory epithet. He only appears as witness to charters in 1126 and 1129. The pleasant story of his marriage to the daughter of the Welsh chieftain of Coity, and the less pleasant story of his giving Fitzhamon a blow that rendered him imbecile, seem to be devoid of historical foundation. [Dictionary of Welsh Biography 988]
  
  === !#4568-v8-p543; v12-p922; ===
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  === T Jones: History of Brecknockshire P. 3 ===
  T Jones: History of Brecknockshire P. 390

1. Gilbert De Turberville II, b. 1175 in Coity, Glamorgan, Wales     d. in Coity, Glamorgan, Wales

1. Title: Legacy NFS Source: (Sir) Pagamus or Payne Turberville -
   Author: History of the Commoners of Great Britain and Ireland, John Burke {1834-1838}, Page number: IV:652-3
   Note: Source Media Type: Book Source Media Type: Book
   Page: Migrated from user-supplied source citation: urn:familysearch:source:2736741117
   
2. Title: Book - History of Commoners
   Author: Google Books
   Note: sir, Payn Turberville, Lord of Coity & Crug Howell s/o sir, Gilbert Turberville, Knt, Lord of Coity & Crug Howell & Agnes b- Coity Castle, Glamorganshire,Wales
   
3. Title: Archaeologcial Cambrensis
   
4. Title: Cartae et Alia Munimenta Quae ad Dominium de Glamorgancia Pertinent vol 1
   Publication: Name: https://archive.org/stream/cartetaliamunim00abbegoog#page/n6/mode/2up;
   
5. Title: Dictionary of Welsh Biography
   Publication: Name: http://yba.llgc.org.uk/en/index.html;
   
6. Title: Legacy NFS Source: (Sir) Pagamus or Payne Turberville -
   Author: Ancestors of Evelyn Wood Keeler; Josephine C Frost {1939}, Page number: 420
   Note: Cites as references for Welsh lineages: Royal Families of England, Scotland, Wales: Volume I & 2; Genealogical Tables of the Sovereigns of the World; Maunder's Biographical Treasures; Universial Biography; etc. Source Media Type: Book
   Page: Migrated from user-supplied source citation: urn:familysearch:source:2736742589
   
7. Title: Legacy NFS Source: Payne Tuberville - birth-name: Unknown De Tuberville
   Note: birth-name: Unknown De Tuberville
   Page: Migrated from user-supplied source citation: urn:familysearch:source:2811941918
   
8. Title: Book - Blood of Avalon
   Author: Google Books
   Note: sir, Pain II Turberville, Lord of Coity m- Matilda
   
9. Title: Legacy NFS Source: (Sir) Pagamus or Payne Turberville -
   Author: Battle Abbey Roll with Account of the Norman Lineages; Catherine Lucy Wilhelmina, Duchess of Cleveland {1889}, Page number: III:190
   Note: Source Media Type: Book
   Page: Migrated from user-supplied source citation: urn:familysearch:source:2736741141
   
10. Title: Payn de Tuberville, "Find A Grave Index"
    Author: "Find A Grave Index," database, FamilySearch (https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QVG5-KQ3B : 24 February 2022), Payn de Turberville, ; Burial, Ewenny, , Vale of Glamorgan, Wales, Ewenny Priory; citing record ID 124011422, Find a Grave, http://www.findagrave.com.
    Publication: Name: https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QVG5-KQ3B;
    
11. Title: Legacy NFS Source: (Sir) Pagamus or Payne Turberville -
    Author: Annals and Antiquities of the Counties and County Families of Wales; Dr Thomas Nicholas {1875}, Page number: II:557
    Page: Migrated from user-supplied source citation: urn:familysearch:source:2736742382