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Gwenllian verch Gwilym
- Preferred Name: Gwenllian verch Gwilym [1] [2] [3] [4] [5] [6] [7] [8]
- Alternate Name: Gwenllian
- Alternate Name: Gwenllian of Deheubarth
- Alternate Name: Gwenllian ap Llewelyn ap Hywel
- Alternate Name: Gwenllian Grach
- Alternate Name: Ap Llewelyn
- Gender: F
- Burial: ABT 1450 in Abergavenny, Monmouthshire, Wales at LATI: N1.9219 LONG: E3.0585
- Death: ABT 1450 in Peutun, Llan Ddew, Breconshire, Wales at LATI: N1.9698 LONG: E3.3583
- FSID: GML1-5NT
- Birth: ABT 1355 in Abercrai, Traean Glas, Breconshire, Wales
- _FSFTID: with note: Description: GWZP-KJC
- User Reference Number: with note: Description: 18609
- Notes:
=== Life Sketch ===
http://www.ancientwalesstudies.org/id40.html
Gwladys verch Gwilym
Birthdate: circa 1355
Birthplace: Abercrai, Traean Glas, Breconshire, Wales
Death: 1430-1440
Peutun, Llan Ddew, Breconshire, Wales
Immediate Family:
Daughter of Gwilym ap Hywel Grach and Elsbeth Walbyf
Wife of Sir Dafydd Gam ap Llewelyn
Mother of Gwladus verch Dafydd Gam; Margred verch Dafydd Gam; Thomas ap Dafydd; N.N. verch Dafydd Gam and Morgan ap Dafydd Gam
Half sister of Gwenllian verch Watkin; Ieuan ap Watkin; N.N. verch Watkin and Gwerfyl verch Watkin
About Gwladys verch Gwilym
See Peter Bartrum, https://cadair.aber.ac.uk/dspace/bitstream/handle/2160/5218/Bleddyn%20ap%20Maenyrch%2020.png?sequence=1&isAllowed=y (December 7, 2017; Anne Brannen, curator)
Gwenllian Verch Gwilym Compact Disc #100 Pin #611838 Pedigree
Sex: F
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Event(s)
Birth: 1355
Abercrai,Traean-Glas,Wales
Death: Deceased
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Parents
Father: Gwilym Ap Hwyel Disc #100 Pin #623509
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Marriage(s)
Spouse: Dafydd "Gam" Ap Llewellyn Disc #100 Pin #611839
Marriage:
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Notes and Sources
Notes: Available on CD-ROM Disc# 100
Sources: Available on CD-ROM Disc# 100
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Submitter
David WEAVER
1716 South State Road 129
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Submission Search: 2863872-1005104231206
URL: http://www.daveweaverfamily.com
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=== !#2105> Wales Visitation-v1-p30 (FHL Q94 ===
!#2105> Wales Visitation-v1-p30 (FHL Q942.9 D23d);
=== !MARRIAGE: Gwenllian and Gwilym Gam Hywe ===
!MARRIAGE: Gwenllian and Gwilym Gam Hywel Fychan - Doc. line 179-9
=== HS. OF YSTYMCEGID ===
HS. OF YSTYMCEGID
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!#4568-v2-p48; v9-p683;
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!#4569-v3-p355; v5-p728;
=== !#4569-v1-p121; !ASSUMPTION: place of re ===
!#4569-v1-p121; !ASSUMPTION: place of residence unknown, placed here for recording purposes;
=== !#4569-v4-p593; ===
!#4569-v4-p593;
=== !#4568-v3-p117; v8-p563*; ===
!#4568-v3-p117; v8-p563*;
=== !#4569-v3-p406,475*; !ASSUMPTION: ? as t ===
!#4569-v3-p406,475*; !ASSUMPTION: ? as to whether she belongs in this family; ^bornL1> of Blaen Tringarth;
=== !#4569-v1-p162*; v5-p824; !Arch Rec: Cla ===
!#4569-v1-p162*; v5-p824; !Arch Rec: Clarks' History of Glamorgan; (birth 1487 of Blaen-bradach);
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(24) d
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21 (d)
=== Notes on 'verch', 'ferch', and 'merch' ===
The corrects for for ‘daughter of’ is merch. Please consult the Welsh dictionaries referenced in the following definitions:
merch1 [Crn. C. myrgh, mergh, Llyd. C. merch, Llyd. Diw. merc’h, ?cf. Lith. mergà ‘morwyn’] eb. (bach. merchan) ll. merched, ll. dwbl merchedau. a. Plentyn benyw, geneth, llances; menyw, gwraig (ieuanc neu ddibriod), dynes; menyw yn ei pherthynas â’i rhieni; disgynnydd benyw; hefyd yn ffig.: girl, lass; female, (young or unmarried) woman; daughter; female descendant; also fig[urative]. b. (o flaen e. prs., weithiau wedi ei gywasgu’n ach, ych, &c.) Merch (i), hefyd yn ffig.: (before a personal name) daughter of, also fig[urative].
If you look up ‘ferch’ it says gweled [see] ‘merch’ Try this link https://geiriadur.ac.uk/gpc/gpc.html and type either word in the box with the words ‘Teipiwch air neu ymadrodd yma’ the definitions and uses will appear. Or try this dictionary https://geiriadur.uwtsd.ac.uk/
=== BIRTH-MARRIAGE:"WELSH GENEALOGIES AD300- ===
BIRTH-MARRIAGE:"WELSH GENEALOGIES AD300-1400," by Peter Clement Bartrum, published by The University of Wales Press, 1980.
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=== Holy cow, what a mess! ===
I've seen some messed-up families on Family Search, but this one takes the cake! There are at least 10 sets of parents for Gwenllian, over 30 children and a half-dozen husbands.
Can someone please straighten things out?
=== https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Gwilym-5Contents [hide] 1 Biography 1.1 Name 1.2 Birth 1.3 Death 2 Sources ===
Biography
Sir Dauid Lleñ ab Howel, alias Davy Gam, knight married a daughter of William ab Howel grach.[1]
Name
Name: Gwenllian verch Gwilym ap Hywel Grach[2]
Birth
Date: c. 1355
Place: Abercrai,Traean Glas,Breconshire,Wales
Death
Date: c. 1455
Place: Peutun,Llan Ddew,Breconshire,Wales
This profile is a collaborative work-in-progress. Can you contribute information or sources?
Sources
↑ Llyfr Achau Heraldic visitations of Wales and part of the Marches; between the years 1586 and 1613, pp. 56-7 (1846), retrieved 2014-05-21, amb
↑ Theophilus Jones, A History of the County of Brecknock: In Two Volumes. Volume 2 , p. 159, retrieved 2014-07-20, amb
Lewys Dwnn, Heraldic visitations of Wales and part of the Marches, between the years 1586 and 1613; p. 37. ed. with notes by Samuel Rush Meyrick (Google eBook). Samuel Rush Meyrick. William Rees, 1846
Theophilus Jones, A History of the County of Brecknock: In Two Volumes. Volume 2 of A History of the County of Brecknock. Contributor John Phillips. Publisher Wm. & Geo. North ... for the author; and sold by J. Booth ... London., 1809. Original from the University of Michigan. Digitized Nov 5, 2009
http://www.lancasterfamilytree.com/treeinfo/gp4610.html
http://trees.ancestry.ca/tree/30997876/person/12345767755
http://www.ourfamtree.org/pedigree.php?pid=484772#a4848985321
This person was created through the import of Acrossthepond.ged on 21 February 2011.
This person was created through the import of Newman Family Tree.ged on 12 March 2011.
Lawrence Schliessmann created Gwilym-12
Verch Gwilym-3 created through the import of Grant_David_Meadors_2008-02-17.ged on Sep 18, 2011 by Grant Meadors.
Gwilym-8 created through the import of FISCUS Family Tree.ged on Jun 6, 2011 by Liisa Small.
Richard Ragland created Verch Gwilm-1 on 9 Dec 13.
Gwilym-11 created through the import of 2010-09-14.ged on Jul 28, 2011 by Bob Carson. Ap Goch-1 created through the import of 2010-09-14.ged on Jul 28, 2011 by Bob Carson. See the Goch-1 Changes page for the details of edits by Bob and others.
=== !#4568-v3-p108*; v8-p547; !Arch Rec: His ===
!#4568-v3-p108*; v8-p547; !Arch Rec: History of Glamorgan; Jones History of Brecknock (birth 1377); !ORD: ARCH REC> under Miss Llwyd, B: 19 Sep 1942, E: 15 Jan 1943, SP: 21 May 1945 SL, mo Golenbrydd Fychan; !ASSUMPTION: record does not state to which wife she belongs, placed with 1st wife for recording purposes;
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=== !#4568-v3-p106; v9-p683; Archive Records ===
!#4568-v3-p106; v9-p683; Archive Records - Monms 1 v1-pt2-p229; v1-pt2-p339; (birth 1336);
=== !#4569-v2-p205; v7-p1110*; ===
!#4569-v2-p205; v7-p1110*;
=== !#4569-v3-p424*; v5-p822; !Arch Rec: Cla ===
!#4569-v3-p424*; v5-p822; !Arch Rec: Clarks' History of Glamorgan; (birth 1598 of Brithdir);
=== !#4569> Welsh Genealogies Ad 1400-1500,- ===
!#4569> Welsh Genealogies Ad 1400-1500,-v4-p635 (FHL 942.9 D2fw); !ARCH REC> Clarks' History of Glamorgan; (born 1479 of Bryn-Cethin); !ORD: TIB: LOGAN: Bap>, End> 60313-7-918;
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!#4568-v10-p754;
=== !#4568-v5-p326 ===
!#4568-v5-p326
=== !#4569-v2-p210*,243; ^bornL2> Llanfihang ===
!#4569-v2-p210*,243; ^bornL2> Llanfihangel Fechan;
=== !#4568-v7-p467; !#4569-v5-p861; ===
!#4568-v7-p467; !#4569-v5-p861;
=== !#4569-v1-p57; v4-p598; v7-p1096; ===
!#4569-v1-p57; v4-p598; v7-p1096;
Preferred Parents:
Father: Gwilym ap Hywel Grach, b. ABT 1325 in Traeanglas, Breconshire, Wales d. ABT 1361 in Wales
Mother: Margaret Dafydd ap Gruffud, b. ABT 1286 in Breconshire, Wales d. DECEASED
Family 1: Hywel ap Llewellyn , b. ABT 1330 in Wales
Family 2: Dafydd Gam ap Llewelyn ap Hywel, b. ABT 1365 in Llanddew, Breconshire, Wales d. 25 OCT 1415 in Agincourt, Meurthe-et-Moselle, Lorraine, France
- m. 1385 in Abergavennym, Monmouthshire, Wales
- Gwladys ferch Dafydd Gam, b. 1392 in Peutun, Llan Ddew, Breconshire, Wales d. APR 1454 in Abergavenny, Monmouthshire, Wales
- Morgan ap Dafydd, b. ABT 1375 in Ystradfellte, Breconshire, Wales
Sources:
- Title: Web: Netherlands, GenealogieOnline Trees Index, 1000-2015
Publication: Name: http://search.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/sse.dll?dbid=9289&h=31292240&indiv=try;
- Title: Gwladys merch Dafydd ap Llewellyn ab Howel Vychan (alias Gam)
Author: The Heroines of Welsh History: Comprising Memoirs and Biographical Notices ..., by Thomas Jeffery Llewelyn Prichard, p 416
Publication: Name: https://books.google.com/books?id=_lgJAAAAIAAJ&pg=PA416#v=onepage&q&f=false;
- Title: Annals and Antiquities of the Counties and County Families of ..., Volume 1
Author: Google ebooks search for Wales history
Publication: Name: https://books.google.com/books?id=iD4LAAAAYAAJ&pg=PA32&lpg=PA32&dq=William+Owen+esquire+of+Bodeon&source=bl&ots=GSTU-CjFN8&sig=l01LCFiWcjtbNNsQSHY-r_wAxs0&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjch_afw4XbAhWs1IMKHcRjBZMQ6AEIJzAA#v=onepage&q=William%20Owen%20esquire%20of%20Bodeon&f=false;
Note: On page 32 shows he was Esquire of Bodeon. His father gave him the Bodeon estates and the oreitlon estates went to his brother John
Page: page 90 of this book shows father and spouse, (about third paragraph down.
- Title: Medieval Welsh ancestors of certain Americans :
Author: Ancestry.com
Publication: Name: https://dcms.lds.org/delivery/DeliveryManagerServlet?dps_pid=IE523019;
Note: Rough Copy but it has on page 185 on the scroll bar and on page 168 of the actual book, Sir William Thomas and then down the paragraph has that his Daugther Margred married Henry Wogan Son of John Wogan.
Page: Page 45 #52 states who they married and death date of spouse
- Title: geni.com profile for Gwladys verch Gwilym
Author: geni.com profile for Gwladys verch Gwilym
Publication: Name: https://www.geni.com/people/Gwladys-verch-Gwilym/6000000003649683880?through=6000000003649650591;
Note: Gwladys verch Gwilym MP
Gender: Female
Birth: circa 1355
Abercrai, Traean Glas, Breconshire, Wales
Death: 1455 (95-105)
Peutun, Llan Ddew, Breconshire, Wales
Immediate Family:
Daughter of Gwilym ap Hywel Grach and Elsbeth Walbyf
Wife of Sir Dafydd Gam ap Llewelyn
Mother of Gwladus verch Dafydd Gam; Margred verch Dafydd Gam; Thomas ap Dafydd; Morgan ap Dafydd Gam and N.N. verch Sir Dafydd Gam
Half sister of Ieuan ap Watkin; N.N. verch Watkin; Gwerfyl verch Watkin and Gwenllian verch Watkin
See Peter Bartrum, https://cadair.aber.ac.uk/dspace/bitstream/handle/2160/5218/Bleddyn... (December 7, 2017; Anne Brannen, curator)
Gwenllian Verch Gwilym Compact Disc #100 Pin #611838 Pedigree
- Title: Legacy NFS Source: Gwenllian Verch Gwilym - birth:
Author: The Royal Ancestry Bible, Michel L. Call, Copyright 2006
Note: birth:
Page: Migrated from user-supplied source citation: urn:familysearch:source:2026280052
- Title: Web: Netherlands, GenealogieOnline Trees Index, 1000-Current
Publication: Name: https://search.ancestry.com/collections/9289/records/31292240;
- Title: Millennium File
Publication: Name: http://search.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/sse.dll?dbid=7249&h=10229528&indiv=try;
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