Roger de Somery III

• Preferred Name: Roger de Somery III^{[1] [2] [3] [4] [5] [6]}
  
• Alternate Name: Roger de Somery
  
• Alternate Name: Roger II de Somery of Dudley
  
• Gender: M
  
• FSID: LYFH-YBN
  
• Birth: 24 JUN 1255 in Rowley Regis, Staffordshire, England at LATI: N2.489 LONG: E2.0468
  
• Burial: 18 OCT 1291 in Stafford, Staffordshire, England at LATI: N2.8061 LONG: E2.1182
  
• LdsBaptism: 3 DEC 1934 with note: GEDCOM data
  
• http://familysearch.org/v1/TitleOfNobility: Baron
  
• http://familysearch.org/v1/TitleOfNobility: Baron Dudley
  
• http://familysearch.org/v1/TitleOfNobility: Lord DudleyBET 1272 AND 1291
  
• Death: 11 OCT 1291 in Dudley Castle, Staffordshire, England at LATI: N2.5436 LONG: E2.0854
  
• http://familysearch.org/v1/TitleOfNobility: with note: Description: Lord Dudley
  
• Occupation: Knight
  
• Notes:

  === Life Sketch ===
  Roger II (Somery) de Somery
  Roger (Somery) de Somery (1255 - 1291)
  Privacy Level: Open (White)
  Sir Roger (Roger II) de Somery formerly Somery aka Lord of Dudley
  Born 24 Jun 1255 in Rowley Regis, Staffordshire, Englandmap
  ANCESTORS ancestors
  Son of Roger (Somery) de Somery Knt and Amabil (Chaucombe) de Somery
  Brother of Margaret (Segrave) de Vere [half], Ralph (Somery) de Somery [half], Joan (Somery) le Strange [half], Margaret (Somery) Cromwell [half], Mabel (Somery) de Sulley [half], Maud (Somery) de Bifeld [half], Nicholas (Segrave) de Segrave [half], Adelle (Seagrave) Segrave [half] and Cecilia (Somery) Aylesbury
  Husband of Lucia (Somery) de Somery — married [date unknown] [location unknown]
  Husband of Agnes (Unknown) deSomery — married [date unknown] [location unknown]
  DESCENDANTS descendants
  Father of John (de Somery) Somery, Roger (Somery) de Somery, Margaret (Somery) Sutton and Joan (Somery) Botetourt
  Died 11 Oct 1291 in Dudley Castle, Staffordshire, Englandmap
  Profile managers: Terry Wright private message [send private message] and Michelle Brooks private message [send private message]
  Profile last modified 5 May 2019 | Created 25 Sep 2010
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  Roger II (Somery) de Somery was a member of aristocracy in the British Isles.
  Contents
  [hide]
  1 Biography
  1.1 Marriage and Children
  1.2 Death and Burial
  2 Sources
  Biography
  Father: Sir Roger de Somery b. c 1208, d. c 26 Aug 1273
  Mother: Anabel Chaucomb b. c 1210, d. c 16 Dec 1282
  By Anabel Chaucombe, his second wife, Roger de Somery had issue a son who succeeded to the estates of his father in cos. Stafford, Bucks[1]
  Sir Roger de Somery, Baron Dudley was born on 24 June 1255 at of Dudley in Sedgley, Handsworth, King's Swinford, Meer in Forton, & Rowley Regis, Staffordshire, England; Age 18 in 1255.[2]
  Marriage and Children
  Sir Roger de Somery, Baron Dudley married Agnes; They had 2 sons (Roger; & Sir John, Lord Somery) & 2 daughters (Joan, wife of Thomas Botetourt; & Margaret, wife of John de Sutton).[3]
  Agnes d. 23 Nov 1308
  Sir John de Somery, Lord Somery b. 2 Mar 1280, d. 1 Jul 1322
  Roger
  Margaret de Somery b. c 1290, d. bt 1328 - 1337
  Joane de Somery b. c 1292, d. c 12 Feb 1338
  Death and Burial
  He died on 11 October 1291 at of Staffordshire, England, at age 36; Buried at Dudley Priory.[4]
  Sources
  ↑ Farnham, p.148, accessed 2014-05-14, amb
  ↑ Douglas Richardson, Plantagenet Ancestry, p. 137
  ↑ Douglas Richardson, Magna Carta Ancestry, 2nd Edition, Vol. IV, p. 149-150.
  ↑ Douglas Richardson, Royal Ancestry, Vol. IV, p. 673-674
  Marlyn Lewis
  Farnham, George. Charnwood Forest and the Charnwood Manors.
  
  === !AKA: Roger de Somery, Baron Dudley, hel ===
  !AKA: Roger de Somery, Baron Dudley, held Dinas Powis - Doc. Line 81-30 !BIRTH: Date: June 24, 1255 (age 18 in 1273) - Doc. Line 81-30 !CHILDREN: Of Roger de Somery and [ ] Joan and John - Doc. Line 126-30 !DEATH: Date: October 11, 1291 - Doc. Line 81-30 !MARRIAGE: Rober de Somery, Baron and Agnes [ ] - Doc. Line 81-31
  
  === r.ROGER DE SOMERY (by(2)), b. 24 Jun, 12 ===
  r.ROGER DE SOMERY (by(2)), b. 24 Jun, 1255, ac. 18 in 1373, grandson of Ralph de Somery, d. 11 Oct, 1291, Baron Dudley 1290, held Dinas Powis; m. Agnes, d. 23 Nov. 1308. ["60 Colonists" line 81-30.] b.Roger de Somery, Baron Dudley, held Dinas Powis.
  
  === Source: A. Roots 81, 216. Held Dinas Pow ===
  Source: A. Roots 81, 216. Held Dinas Powis. SOURCES: 1. Weis, Frederick Lewis. _Ancestral Roots of Sixty Colonists_. 6th Edition. Baltimore, MD: Genealogical Publishing Company, Inc.,1988; line 81-30. He was the grandson of Ralph de Somery and was age 18 in 1273. He was Baron Dudley in 1290 and held Dinas Powis.
  
  === Roger was granted in 1265 license to mak ===
  Roger was granted in 1265 license to make a castle of his manor house at Dudley. This was a reward for taking the side of the King against the Barons during the Baron's War.
  
  === !#21> Complete Peerage-v6-p124fn(e),-v12 ===
  !#21> Complete Peerage-v6-p124fn(e),-v12pt1-p114*, (FHL 942 D22cok); !KIN> 2nd but 1st surv s & h by 2nd wife; DEATH> on or bef 11 Oct 1291;
  
  === Baron Dudley ===
  Baron of Dudley
  
  === Roger II (Somery) de Somery ===
  Roger II (Somery) de Somery
  Roger (Somery) de Somery (1255 - 1291)
  Privacy Level: Open (White)
  Sir Roger (Roger II) de Somery formerly Somery aka Lord of Dudley
  Born 24 Jun 1255 in Rowley Regis, Staffordshire, Englandmap
  ANCESTORS ancestors
  Son of Roger (Somery) de Somery Knt and Amabil (Chaucombe) de Somery
  Brother of Margaret (Segrave) de Vere [half], Ralph (Somery) de Somery [half], Joan (Somery) le Strange [half], Margaret (Somery) Cromwell [half], Mabel (Somery) de Sulley [half], Maud (Somery) de Bifeld [half], Nicholas (Segrave) de Segrave [half], Adelle (Seagrave) Segrave [half] and Cecilia (Somery) Aylesbury
  Husband of Lucia (Somery) de Somery — married [date unknown] [location unknown]
  Husband of Agnes (Unknown) deSomery — married [date unknown] [location unknown]
  DESCENDANTS descendants
  Father of John (de Somery) Somery, Roger (Somery) de Somery, Margaret (Somery) Sutton and Joan (Somery) Botetourt
  Died 11 Oct 1291 in Dudley Castle, Staffordshire, Englandmap
  Profile managers: Terry Wright private message [send private message] and Michelle Brooks private message [send private message]
  Profile last modified 5 May 2019 | Created 25 Sep 2010
  This page has been accessed 4,169 times.
  
  Roger II (Somery) de Somery was a member of aristocracy in the British Isles.
  Contents
  [hide]
  1 Biography
  1.1 Marriage and Children
  1.2 Death and Burial
  2 Sources
  Biography
  Father: Sir Roger de Somery b. c 1208, d. c 26 Aug 1273
  Mother: Anabel Chaucomb b. c 1210, d. c 16 Dec 1282
  By Anabel Chaucombe, his second wife, Roger de Somery had issue a son who succeeded to the estates of his father in cos. Stafford, Bucks[1]
  Sir Roger de Somery, Baron Dudley was born on 24 June 1255 at of Dudley in Sedgley, Handsworth, King's Swinford, Meer in Forton, & Rowley Regis, Staffordshire, England; Age 18 in 1255.[2]
  Marriage and Children
  Sir Roger de Somery, Baron Dudley married Agnes; They had 2 sons (Roger; & Sir John, Lord Somery) & 2 daughters (Joan, wife of Thomas Botetourt; & Margaret, wife of John de Sutton).[3]
  Agnes d. 23 Nov 1308
  Sir John de Somery, Lord Somery b. 2 Mar 1280, d. 1 Jul 1322
  Roger
  Margaret de Somery b. c 1290, d. bt 1328 - 1337
  Joane de Somery b. c 1292, d. c 12 Feb 1338
  Death and Burial
  He died on 11 October 1291 at of Staffordshire, England, at age 36; Buried at Dudley Priory.[4]
  Sources
  ↑ Farnham, p.148, accessed 2014-05-14, amb
  ↑ Douglas Richardson, Plantagenet Ancestry, p. 137
  ↑ Douglas Richardson, Magna Carta Ancestry, 2nd Edition, Vol. IV, p. 149-150.
  ↑ Douglas Richardson, Royal Ancestry, Vol. IV, p. 673-674
  Marlyn Lewis
  Farnham, George. Charnwood Forest and the Charnwood Manors.
  
  Baron of Dudley
  
  Ency of Am Biog. Am Hist Soc. r4a1 n s vol 17 p 47
  Genealogical Archives
  
  from thepeerage.com, 7/2009: (nothing further on her father, Roger)
  Margaret de Somery
  F, #2843
  Margaret de Somery||p285.htm#i2843|Roger de Somery||p2526.htm#i25258||||||||||||||||
  Last Edited=29 Dec 2008
  Margaret de Somery was the daughter of Roger de Somery .
  Children of Margaret de Somery and Sir John de Sutton
  John de Sutton + d. 23 Nov 1359
  Margaret de Sutton b. c 1320
  
  !Brown book #5, chart R24, 642. Cokayne's Peerage, V2, V7 p190, note Q. V10, p320. !Brown book 5, P C 203, 588. Became Baron dudley. His only son, John, left no issue. Hence his sister Margaret became the Baroness Dudley. Held Dinas Powis from his father. !Old Cokayne's Peerage VII: p190-1. LV p479. X p320. The Dudley Ped. by Dean Dudley.
  
  Source: A. Roots 81, 216. Held Dinas Powis. SOURCES: 1. Weis, Frederick Lewis. _Ancestral Roots of Sixty Colonists_. 6th Edition. Baltimore, MD: Genealogical Publishing Company, Inc.,1988; line 81-30. He was the grandson of Ralph de Somery and was age 18 in 1273. He was Baron Dudley in 1290 and held Dinas Powis.
  
  Ref: Ancestral Roots, Weis, 7th edition, 1992, Line 81-30.
  
  Held Dinad Powis
  
  !AKA: Roger de Somery, Baron Dudley, held Dinas Powis - Doc. Line 81-30 !BIRTH: Date: June 24, 1255 (age 18 in 1273) - Doc. Line 81-30 !CHILDREN: Of Roger de Somery and [ ] Joan and John - Doc. Line 126-30 !DEATH: Date: October 11, 1291 - Doc. Line 81-30 !MARRIAGE: Rober de Somery, Baron and Agnes [ ] - Doc. Line 81-31
  
  !Baron Dudley Lord of Cambridgeshire
  
  !#21> Complete Peerage-v6-p124fn(e),-v12pt1-p114*, (FHL 942 D22cok); !KIN> 2nd but 1st surv s & h by 2nd wife; DEATH> on or bef 11 Oct 1291;
  
  r.ROGER DE SOMERY (by(2)), b. 24 Jun, 1255, ac. 18 in 1373, grandson of Ralph de Somery, d. 11 Oct, 1291, Baron Dudley 1290, held Dinas Powis; m. Agnes, d. 23 Nov. 1308. ["60 Colonists" line 81-30.] b.Roger de Somery, Baron Dudley, held Dinas Powis.
  
  !Source: Bill Lewis 9712 Dortmund Dr. Huntsville, AL. 35803
  
  Roger was granted in 1265 license to make a castle of his manor house at Dudley. This was a reward for taking the side of the King against the Barons during the Baron's War.
  
  !Ancestral Roots by Weis, Seventh Edition L 81-30 Baron Dudley, 1290, held Dinas Powis.
  
  Weis. 81-30. Roger de Somery was 18 in 1273. He was Baron Dudley in 1290 and held Dinas Powis.
  
  !Name,children,Bpla-Peerage & Baronetage,Burke,1980,BK 942D22bup Vol 1 pg 794 Name,Bd,pla,Spouse,parents(Unsure of connection)Md,pla,Bap,End,SP,SS-IGI,addendum also states SP,SS as pre 1970 Md also listed as <1289<1285;Mpla as Dudley,Worc
  
  === Ref: Ancestral Roots, Weis, 7th edition, ===
  Ref: Ancestral Roots, Weis, 7th edition, 1992, Line 81-30.
  
  === Name Prefix: Sir.
  Name Suffix: Name Prefix: Sir.
  Name Suffix: Baron
  REFN: HWS18432
  Ancestral File Number: 92CT-XT
  OBJE: C:\LEGACY\PICTURES\C_baron1.GIF
  OBJE: C:\LEGACY\PICTURES\dudley.jpg
  
  === My PAF Notes ===
  from thepeerage.com, 7/2009: (nothing further on her father, Roger)
  Margaret de Somery
  F, #2843
  Margaret de Somery||p285.htm#i2843|Roger de Somery||p2526.htm#i25258||||||||||||||||
  Last Edited=29 Dec 2008
  Margaret de Somery was the daughter of Roger de Somery .
  Children of Margaret de Somery and Sir John de Sutton
  John de Sutton + d. 23 Nov 1359
  Margaret de Sutton b. c 1320
  
  === Held Dinad Powis ===
  Held Dinad Powis
  
  === !Ancestral Roots by Weis, Seventh Editio ===
  !Ancestral Roots by Weis, Seventh Edition L 81-30 Baron Dudley, 1290, held Dinas Powis.
  
  === !Name,children,Bpla-Peerage & Baronetage ===
  !Name,children,Bpla-Peerage & Baronetage,Burke,1980,BK 942D22bup Vol 1 pg 794 Name,Bd,pla,Spouse,parents(Unsure of connection)Md,pla,Bap,End,SP,SS-IGI,addendum also states SP,SS as pre 1970 Md also listed as <1289<1285;Mpla as Dudley,Worc
  
  === !Source: Bill Lewis 9712 Dortmund Dr. Hu ===
  !Source: Bill Lewis 9712 Dortmund Dr. Huntsville, AL. 35803
  
  === Weis. 81-30. Roger de Somery was 18 in ===
  Weis. 81-30. Roger de Somery was 18 in 1273. He was Baron Dudley in 1290 and held Dinas Powis.
  
  === Research ===
  Ency of Am Biog. Am Hist Soc. r4a1 n s vol 17 p 47
  Genealogical Archives
  
  === !Brown book #5, chart R24, 642. Cokayne' ===
  !Brown book #5, chart R24, 642. Cokayne's Peerage, V2, V7 p190, note Q. V10, p320. !Brown book 5, P C 203, 588. Became Baron dudley. His only son, John, left no issue. Hence his sister Margaret became the Baroness Dudley. Held Dinas Powis from his father. !Old Cokayne's Peerage VII: p190-1. LV p479. X p320. The Dudley Ped. by Dean Dudley.
  
  === !Baron Dudley Lord of Cambridgeshire ===
  !Baron Dudley Lord of Cambridgeshire

1. Margaret Somery, b. ABT 1293 in Worcester, Worcestershire, England     d. BET 1328 AND 1337 in Dudley Castle, Staffordshire, England
2. Roger de Somery, b. ABT 1285 in Dudley, Staffordshire, England     d. 1322 in Staffordshire, England
3. Joan de Somery, b. ABT 1292 in Dudley Castle, Staffordshire, England     d. 18 JAN 1327 in Thomas, Hertforshire, England

1. Title: Legacy NFS Source: Roger Ii Seymour Baron -
   Author: The British Archivist, "Miscellanea genealogica et heraldica and the British archivist " (13 Feb 2001), Central Los Angeles Public Library, 630 W. Fifth Street, Los Angeles, CA 90071 U.S.A.Central Los A, 630 W. Fifth Street, Los Angeles, CA 90071 U.S.A.Central Los A, (213) 228-7069 (fax), Page number: 2:133
   Note: TITLE: The British archivist. DESCRIPTION: v. ; ill. ; 33 cm. NOTES: Pages 169-172 incorrectly numbered 165-168. Title from cover. Miscellanea genealogica etheraldica Miscellanea genealogica et heraldica and the British archivist SUBJECTS: Archives--Gre
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2. Title: Legacy NFS Source: Roger Ii Seymour Baron - birth: 24 June 1255;
   Author: The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, "FamilySearch® Ancestral File™ v4.19" (3 Feb 2001), SLC - Family History Library, 25 N. West Temple Street, Salt Lake City, UT 84150 U.S.A.SLC - Fami, 25 N. West Temple Street, Salt Lake City, UT 84150 U.S.A.SLC - Fami
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3. Title: Legacy NFS Source: Roger Ii Seymour Baron - birth: 24 June 1255;
   Author: Larson, Kirk, "Genealogical Research of Kirk Larson" (Personal Research Works including Bethune & Hohenlohe Descendants, 198, Kirk Larson, 23512 Belmar Dr., Laguna Niguel, CA 92677 U.S.A.Kirk Larson, 23512 Belmar Dr., Laguna Niguel, CA 92677 U.S.A.Kirk Larson, (253) 390-9307 (fax)
   Note: birth: 24 June 1255; death:
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4. Title: Roger de Somery, "Find A Grave Index"
   Author: "Find A Grave Index," database, FamilySearch (https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:6JPJ-7F3G : 23 November 2022), Roger de Somery, ; Burial, , ; citing record ID 245087800, Find a Grave, http://www.findagrave.com.
   Publication: Name: https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:6JPJ-7F3G;
   
5. Title: Edward I King of England descent to Botetourte, Freville, and Ferrers families, Ancestral Roots... 8th Ed. (Weis)
   Author: Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists Who Came to America before 1700, 8th Edition, Frederick Weis., Baltimore, 2008 ISBN 978-0-8063-1752-6
   Note: Line 216 #29-34, pp. 195 Edward I, King of England descent to Botetourte, Freville, and Ferrers families: 29. John De BOTETOURTE, (illeg. son of EDWARD I (1-28), 1str Lord Botetourte, admiral, governor of Famlingham Castle 1304, M.P. 1305-1324,d. 25 Nov. 1324; m. 1285/92 MAUD, (or Matilda) FITZ THOMAS (FITZ OTTO, FITZ “OTES, FITZ OTHO), (122A-31), liv. 28 May 1329, dau. Of Thomas Fitz Otto (Otes) of Mendlesham, Suffolk, and BEATRICE DE BEACHAMP (122-30) , dau. Of William de Beauchamp feudal lord of Bedford. (CP II:233-234, XIV: 102; TAG 63: 145-153. For a possible identification of his mother, see NEHGR 120:259). 30. THOMAS DE BOTETOURTE, perh. named after Thomas de Clare, d.v.p. 1322; m. Joan de Somery, liv. 18 Jan. 132617, sis. and coh. Of John de Somery, Lord Somery, dau. Of ROGER DE “SOMERY (81-30). (CP II: 234-235). 31. JOHN DE BOTETOURTE, Lord Botetourte of Weobley Castle, b. 1318, M.P. 1342-1385, d. 4 Apr. 1386; m. bef. 31 May 1347, JOYCE ZOUCHE DE MORTIMER (98-32), living 4 May 1372, dau. Of William Zouche, Lord Zouche of Mortimer. (CP II 234-235, XII(2):962-963; Gen. Mag. 21(1984): 188; ES III.4/706. Gens. 29-31: DNB 5:447). 32. JOYCE DE BOTETOURTE (98-33), b. 1367/8, d. 13 Aug. 1420; m. (1) as his 2nd wife, SIR BALDWIN III FREVILLE (230A-34), b. 1350/1 of Tamworth Castle, co. Warwick, d.s.p.m. 1420. (CP V: chart 332, 357 note a; Gen Mag. 21 (1984): 187-188, 252). 33. SIR BALDWIN IV FREVILLE (230A-34) of Tamworth Castle, b. Woebley Castle, co. Worcester 1368, d. 1401; m. (1) Joan Greene, d.s.p., dau. Sir Thomas Greene; m. (2) Maud, d. 1397. (Gen.Mag. 21 (1984): 187-188). 34. ELIZABETH FREVILLE, b. abt. 1393/4, ae. 24 in 1418; m. THOMAS FERRERS, ESQ., (11-35), of Groby, d. 6 Jan. 1458/9. (CP V: chart 332, 357 note a; Gen Mag. 21 (1984):189).
   Page: Record of Roger de Somery, father of Joan Somery married Thomas de Botetourte
   
6. Title: Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists Who Came to America Before 1700
   Author: pg 85, Line 81
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