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Thomas de St Valery
- Preferred Name: Thomas de St Valery[1] [2] [3]
- Gender: M
- FSID: 9CD3-VYR
- Fact: with note: Description: https://www.geni.com/people/Thomas-de-Saint-Val%C3%A9ry-I-comte-de-Saint-Val%C3%A9ry/6000000002043195964
- Birth: 25 JUL 1173 in Saint-Valéry-sur-Somme, Somme, Hauts-de-France, France at LATI: N0.1844 LONG: E0.6426
- Burial: in France
- Death: 27 JUL 1214 in Bouvines, Nord, Hauts-de-France, France at LATI: N0.5817 LONG: E0.1889
- http://familysearch.org/v1/TitleOfNobility: Seigneur de Domart-en-Ponthieu, St. Valéry-sur-Somme, Bouint, Dommart, Bernardville, St.-Aubin, Gamaches, & Ault-sur-la-Mer
- Notes:
=== Life Sketch ===
Our royal, titled, noble and commoner ancestors
Sir Thomas de St. Valerie, Seigneur de Domart-en-Ponthieu, St. Valéry-sur-Somme, Bouint, Dommart, Bernardville, St.-Aubin, Gamaches, & Ault-sur-la-Mer1,2,3,4
Last Edited 4 Apr 2020
M, #6140, b. 25 July 1173, d. 27 July 1214
Father Bernard IV de St. Valerie b. c 1117, d. 1190
Mother Eleanor d' Ailly b. 1139
Sir Thomas de St. Valerie, Seigneur de Domart-en-Ponthieu, St. Valéry-sur-Somme, Bouint, Dommart, Bernardville, St.-Aubin, Gamaches, & Ault-sur-la-Mer was born on 25 July 1173 at St. Valery-sur-Somme, Somme, Picardie, France.2 He married Adele de Ponthieu, daughter of Jean I, Count of Ponthieu & Montreuil and Beatrice Candavaine de St. Pol, circa 1191.2,4 Sir Thomas de St. Valerie, Seigneur de Domart-en-Ponthieu, St. Valéry-sur-Somme, Bouint, Dommart, Bernardville, St.-Aubin, Gamaches, & Ault-sur-la-Mer died on 27 July 1214 at Bouvines, Nord, Nord-Pas-de-Calais, France, at age 41.2
Family
Adele de Ponthieu b. 23 Apr 1172, d. 18 Sep 1241
Children
Joane de St. Valerie+
Leonore de St. Valerie+3,4 b. c 1192, d. 15 Nov 1251
Adèle de Domart+5 b. 15 Mar 1202, d. 1257
Alixe de Domart+2 b. c 1204, d. 1263
Thomas II de Domart, Seigneur de Domart & St. Valery+2 b. c 1206, d. 1249
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Foundation for Medieval Genealogy
THOMAS de Saint-Valéry (-before 1220). “Bernardus de sancto Walerico” donated the manor of "Wulgariscote" to Godstow nunnery, Oxfordshire, with the consent of "uxoris meæ Avoridis et filiorum meorum Reginaldi, Bernardi et Thomæ", confirmed by Henry II King of England, by undated charter[793]. “Thomas de sancto Walerico” confirmed the donation by "Bernardus bonæ memoriæ pater meus" made to Godstow nunnery in Oxfordshire with the consent of Henry II King of England, for the souls of “Edelæ uxoris meæ et Bernardi patris meæ et Anoræ matris meæ”, by undated charter[794].
The Red Book of the Exchequer, listing scutage payments in [1194/95], names "Thomas de Sancto Valerico" paying "xx s, i militem" in Hampshire[795]. "Thomas de Sancto Walerico" confirmed the donation of "ecclesiam de Tettebyr" to Eynsham abbey made by "R. de Sancto Walerico avi mei", and of "terram de Fines-stokes…ex dono Radulfi Basset et ex concessione R. avi mei", by charter dated to [1191/1205][796].
The Testa de Nevill lists knights who held land in Buckinghamshire, Bedfordshire, dated to [1208/10]: "Thomas de Sancto Walerico" held "Thornton, sed caput est alibi"[797]. The agreement between "dominum comitem Pontivi et Monstreoli" and "dominum Thomam de Sancto Waleriaco" is confirmed by charter dated Sep 1209[798]. An agreement dated 1209 between "dominum comitem" and "dominum Thomam de Sancto Walerico" refers to the marriage of the latter to "domine Edle sororis sue" and also names "Bernardus pater suus"[799].
The Red Book of the Exchequer records "Thomas de Sancto Walerico" holding one half of one knight’s fee "in Cretinge, quam Walterus de Bulonia tenet de eo" in Norfolk, Suffolk in [1210/12][800].
m ([1191/92]) ADELA de Ponthieu, daughter of JEAN [I] Comte de Ponthieu & his third wife Beatrix de Saint-Pol (-after 18 Oct 1241). Letters dated 1178 confirm the marriage of "comes Pontivi filiam suam Edelam" and "Renaldo filio Bernardi de Sancto Walerico", with the right of substitution in case either party died before the marriage[801]. The death of Renaud before the marriage took place is indicated by the charter dated 1205 under which "Thomas de Sancto Walarico" promised service to "fratrem meum et dominum Willelmum comitem Pontivi"[802]. Her marriage is confirmed by the undated charter under which her husband “Thomas de sancto Walerico” confirmed the donation by "Bernardus bonæ memoriæ pater meus" made to Godstow nunnery in Oxfordshire with the consent of Henry II King of England, for the souls of “Edelæ uxoris meæ et Bernardi patris meæ et Anoræ matris meæ”[803].
BIO
BIO: from http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/NORMAN%20NOBILITY.htm#BernardIIISaintValeryB as of 8/10/2016
THOMAS de Saint-Valéry (-before 1220). “Bernardus de sancto Walerico” donated the manor of "Wu
=== THE PLANTAGENET ANCESTRY (GS NUMBER Q940 ===
THE PLANTAGENET ANCESTRY (GS NUMBER Q940 D2T) P.166, 178, 200; SORLEY'S PEDIGREES (GS NUMBER Q929.242 SO68) P.23, 26;
=== M E Sorley: The Sorley Pedigrees pp 26, ===
M E Sorley: The Sorley Pedigrees pp 26,14
=== Sources: RC 122; Ayers, p794. RC: Thomas ===
Sources: RC 122; Ayers, p794. RC: Thomas de St. Valery, married 1178, Adele de Ponthieu. Ayers: Thomas de St. Walery, son and heir; paid 170 marks for aRelief, 5 Richard I; lands seized 8 Richard I but restored, "11 John had seisin oflands of his brother Henry (15 John and 1 Henry III), held lands in Dodford.Died 1218.
=== ! Europasche Stamtafeln neue folge vol 3 ===
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=== My PAF Notes ===
from thepeerage.com, 3/2009:
Thomas de St. Valery, Seigneur de St. Valery
M, #3719, d. circa 1218
Last Edited=19 Jan 2003
Thomas de St. Valery, Seigneur de St. Valery died circa 1218.
Thomas de St. Valery, Seigneur de St. Valery gained the title of Seigneur de St. Valery.
Child of Thomas de St. Valery, Seigneur de St. Valery and Adela de Ponthie
Alianore de St. Valery, Dame de St. Valery + d. c 15 Nov 1250
=== Royal Ancestors of Some LDS Families, b ===
Royal Ancestors of Some LDS Families, by Michael L. Call, C hart 450.
Preferred Parents:
Father: Bernard de St Valéry, b. 1125 in Beckley, Oxfordshire, England d. 17 SEP 1191 in Acre, Palestine, Siege
Mother: Eleanor De Dommart, b. ABT 1128 in Domart-en-Ponthieu, Picardie, France d. ABT 1194 in Beckley, Oxfordshire, England, United Kingdom
Family 1: Adele de Ponthieu, b. ABT 1170 in Ponthieu, Somme, Picardy, France d. AFT 18 OCT 1241 in Domart-en-Ponthieu, Somme, Picardie, France
- m. 1191 in Saint-Valéry-sur-Somme, Somme, Picardie, France
- Aliénor de Saint-Valery, b. 1192 in Saint-Valéry-sur-Somme, Somme, Picardie, France d. 15 NOV 1251 in Dreux, Eure-et-Loir, Centre, France
Sources:
- Title: Geni
Publication: Name: https://www.geni.com/people/Thomas-I-de-Domart/6000000039351993197;
- Title: Foundation for Medieval Genealogy - THOMAS de Saint-Valéry (-before 1220)
Author: FMG Projects/MedLands
Publication: Name: https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/normacre.htm#AlienorSaintValerydied1250;
Note: THOMAS de Saint-Valéry (-before 1220). “Bernardus de sancto Walerico” donated the manor of "Wulgariscote" to Godstow nunnery, Oxfordshire, with the consent of "uxoris meæ Avoridis et filiorum meorum Reginaldi, Bernardi et Thomæ", confirmed by Henry II King of England, by undated charter[1229]. “Thomas de sancto Walerico” confirmed the donation by "Bernardus bonæ memoriæ pater meus" made to Godstow nunnery in Oxfordshire with the consent of Henry II King of England, for the souls of “Edelæ uxoris meæ et Bernardi patris meæ et Anoræ matris meæ”, by undated charter[1230]. The Red Book of the Exchequer, listing scutage payments in [1194/95], names "Thomas de Sancto Valerico" paying "xx s, i militem" in Hampshire[1231]. "Thomas de Sancto Walerico" confirmed the donation of "ecclesiam de Tettebyr" to Eynsham abbey made by "R. de Sancto Walerico avi mei", and of "terram de Fines-stokes…ex dono Radulfi Basset et ex concessione R. avi mei", by charter dated to [1191/1205][1232]. The Testa de Nevill lists knights who held land in Buckinghamshire, Bedfordshire, dated to [1208/10]: "Thomas de Sancto Walerico" held "Thornton, sed caput est alibi"[1233]. The agreement between "dominum comitem Pontivi et Monstreoli" and "dominum Thomam de Sancto Waleriaco" is confirmed by charter dated Sep 1209[1234]. An agreement dated 1209 between "dominum comitem" and "dominum Thomam de Sancto Walerico" refers to the marriage of the latter to "domine Edle sororis sue" and also names "Bernardus pater suus"[1235]. The Red Book of the Exchequer records "Thomas de Sancto Walerico" holding one half of one knight’s fee "in Cretinge, quam Walterus de Bulonia tenet de eo" in Norfolk, Suffolk in [1210/12][1236]. m ([1191/92]) ADELA de Ponthieu, daughter of JEAN [I] Comte de Ponthieu & his third wife Beatrix de Saint-Pol (-after 18 Oct 1241). Letters dated 1178 confirm the marriage of "comes Pontivi filiam suam Edelam" and "Renaldo filio Bernardi de Sancto Walerico", with the right of substitution in case either party died before the marriage[1237]. The death of Renaud before the marriage took place is indicated by the charter dated 1205 under which "Thomas de Sancto Walarico" promised service to "fratrem meum et dominum Willelmum comitem Pontivi"[1238]. Her marriage is confirmed by the undated charter under which her husband “Thomas de sancto Walerico” confirmed the donation by "Bernardus bonæ memoriæ pater meus" made to Godstow nunnery in Oxfordshire with the consent of Henry II King of England, for the souls of “Edelæ uxoris meæ et Bernardi patris meæ et Anoræ matris meæ”[1239]. Thomas & his wife had one child:
a) ELEONORE de Saint-Valéry (1192-15 Nov 1250). Her parentage and marriage are confirmed by a charter of Stodely Nunnery, Oxfordshire which records donations by “Robertus comes Drocarum et dominus de sancto Walerico et Alanora uxor eiusdem comitis filia et hæres Thomæ de sancto Walerico” Dec 1226, and after her husband’s death by “Alanora comitissa Drocarum et domina de sancto Walerico” in Aug 1234[1240]. Dame de Saint-Valéry. A charter dated Dec 1220 issued by "Robertus comes Drucocensis, dominus Sancti Walerici et…Aaenors uxor eiusdem" relates to rights of navigation[1241]. “Henricus dominus Soyliaci” acknowledged owing “quatuor millia librarum Parisiensium” to Louis IX King of France for the repurchase of “comitatus Drocensis et terre…uxoris mee comitisse Drocensis” by charter dated Jan [1238/39][1242]. “Henricus de Soliaco dominus et Aanor comitissa Drocarum et domina Sancti-Walerici uxor mea” recorded their agreement with “Johannem filium Roberti condam comitis Drocarum”, including “super ballio duorum fratrum suorum iuniorem...Roberti et Petri” and “hereditate...in possessione...Robertus pater suus”, by charter dated 27 Apr 1240[1243]. The necrology of the Frères Prêcheurs de Chartres records the death "15 Nov" of "Aanor comitissa Drocarum et domina Sancti Valerici"[1244]. m firstly (1210) ROBERT [III] "Gasteblé" Comte de Dreux et de Braine, son of ROBERT [II] Comte de Dreux & his second wife Yolande de Coucy (1185-Braine 3 Mar 1234, bur Braine). m secondly (1237) as his second wife, HENRI [I] Seigneur de Sully, son of ARCHAMBAUD [IV] Seigneur de Sully & his [first/second/third] wife --- (-after 1248).
Page: Source record for THOMAS de Saint-Valéry (-before 1220).
- Title: Our Royal, Titled, Noble, and Commoner Ancestors Thomas de St. Valerie
Author: Citations [S794] Unknown author, Lineage and Ancestry of HRH Prince Charles by Gerald Paget, Vol. I, p. 177. [S59] GeneaNet. [S4] Douglas Richardson, Royal Ancestry, Vol. II, p. 30. [S4] Douglas Richardson, Royal Ancestry, Vol. II, p. 470. [S59] GeneaNet, Gérard DuPond de la Marteloye de Cercamp site.
Publication: Name: https://our-royal-titled-noble-and-commoner-ancestors.com/p205.htm#i6140;
Note: Sir Thomas de St. Valerie, Seigneur de Domart-en-Ponthieu, St. Valéry-sur-Somme, Bouint, Dommart, Bernardville, St.-Aubin, Gamaches, & Ault-sur-la-Mer (1,2,3,4)
Last Edited 4 Apr 2020
M, #6140, b. 25 July 1173, d. 27 July 1214
Father Bernard IV de St. Valerie b. c 1117, d. 1190
Mother Eleanor d' Ailly b. 1139
Sir Thomas de St. Valerie, Seigneur de Domart-en-Ponthieu, St. Valéry-sur-Somme, Bouint, Dommart, Bernardville, St.-Aubin, Gamaches, & Ault-sur-la-Mer was born on 25 July 1173 at St. Valery-sur-Somme, Somme, Picardie, France. (2) He married Adele de Ponthieu, daughter of Jean I, Count of Ponthieu & Montreuil and Beatrice Candavaine de St. Pol, circa 1191. (2,4) Sir Thomas de St. Valerie, Seigneur de Domart-en-Ponthieu, St. Valéry-sur-Somme, Bouint, Dommart, Bernardville, St.-Aubin, Gamaches, & Ault-sur-la-Mer died on 27 July 1214 at Bouvines, Nord, Nord-Pas-de-Calais, France, at age 41. (2)
Family: Adele de Ponthieu b. 23 Apr 1172, d. 18 Sep 1241
Children:
Joane de St. Valerie+
Leonore de St. Valerie+ (3,4) b. c 1192, d. 15 Nov 1251
Adèle de Domart+5 b. 15 Mar 1202, d. 1257
Alixe de Domart+2 b. c 1204, d. 1263
Thomas II de Domart, Seigneur de Domart & St. Valery+2 b. c 1206, d. 1249
Citations:
1. [S794] Unknown author, Lineage and Ancestry of HRH Prince Charles by Gerald Paget, Vol. I, p. 177.
2. [S59] GeneaNet.
3. [S4] Douglas Richardson, Royal Ancestry, Vol. II, p. 30.
4. [S4] Douglas Richardson, Royal Ancestry, Vol. II, p. 470.
5. [S59] GeneaNet, Gérard DuPond de la Marteloye de Cercamp site.
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