Roger III de Foix

• Preferred Name: Roger III de Foix^{[1] [2] [3] [4] [5] [6] [7] [8] [9] [10]}
  
• Gender: M
  
• FSID: GX3V-Q6Q
  
• Mariage: 1117 with note: GEDCOM data
  
• Comte de Foix: BET 1124 AND 1148 with note: GEDCOM data
  
• Fact: with note: Description: https://www.geni.com/people/Roger-III-comte-de-Foix/6000000007190573413?through=6000000007159201467
  
• Fact: with note: Description: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Count_of_Foix
  
• Birth: ABT 1090 in Foix-sur-Ariège, Ariège, Occitania, France at LATI: N2.964 LONG: E0.6086
  
• Death: NOV 1145 in Foix-sur-Ariège, Ariège, Occitania, France at LATI: N2.964 LONG: E0.6086
  
• http://familysearch.org/v1/TitleOfNobility: Count of Foix ... Comte de FoixBET 1124 AND 1148
  
• Temple+Ordinances: with note: Description: Completed
  
• Occupation: Seigneur de Perigord
  
• Occupation: Comte de Foix1125
  
• Notes:

  === Life Sketch ===
  Foundation for Medieval Genealogy
  
  ROGER [III] de Foix, son of ROGER [II] Comte de Foix & his second wife Estefanía de Besalú (-[1147/48]). “Rogerius comes Fuxensis…et filius meus Rogerius” restored property to the abbey of Alet by charter dated 1108[248]. “Rogerius comes Fuxi et filii mei Rogerius et Bernardus et Petrus” donated property to the abbey of Lezat by charter dated 1120[249]. He succeeded his father in 1124 as Comte de Foix. “Rogerius comes Fuxensis et fratres mei Petrus-Bernardi et Raimundus Rogerii” renounced their claim to the county of Carcassonne in favour of “Bernardo-Athonis vicecomite et cum uxore eius Cæcilia vicecomitissa, filiisque eorum Rogerio et Raimundo Trencavelli atque Bernardo” by charter dated 1 Apr 1125[250]. “Rogerius Fuxi comes, filius Rogerii et Stephaniæ” issued a charter dated Dec 1129[251]. "Rogerius comes Fuxensis…[et] Essena conjux ipsius" founded the commanderie of Ville-Dieu by charter dated 27 Oct 1136[252].
  
  [m firstly ---. No direct evidence has been found which proves this supposed first marriage of Comte Roger [III]. However, the date of the marriage of his daughter Bradimene appears inconsistent with her having been the daughter of his wife Jimena de Barcelona.]
  
  m [secondly] (before [8 Jul] 1130) JIMENA de Barcelona, daughter of RAMON BERENGUER [III] Conde de Barcelona & his [third wife Dulce Ctss de Provence] ([1117/18]-after 1136). The testament of "Raimundus Berengarii…Barchinonensis comes et marchio" dated [8 Jul] 1130 names "Raimundo Berengarii filio meo…et filie mee ipsa de Castella et illa de Fuxo"[253]. Her name is more recognisably reproduced in the charter dated Nov 1149 of her son "Roggerus-Bernardi comes Fuxensis, filius Roggerii et Xaminiæ"[254]. In most secondary sources, Jimena is shown as the daughter of her father´s first marriage and widow of Bernat [III] Conde de Besalú. However, no primary source has yet been identified which confirms that this is correct and several reasons point to it being unlikely. Firstly, if Jimena had been the widow of the last comte de Besalú, her second husband would presumably have had the right to claim the county in her name, and there appears to be no indication that he ever did this. Secondly, the testament of her father names "filie mee…illa de Fuxo" after his daughter "ipsa de Castella". This would normally indicate that the former was younger than the latter. The only possible reason for reversing the order of his daughters would have been the supposed precedence of the queen of Castile over the comtesse de Foix. However, no other example of this adjustment to the order of names in primary source documents has been found, except those justified by the supposed precedence of children holding ecclesiastical office over lay children. Thirdly, Jimena would have named her daughter after her own mother. Fourthly, the dates of marriage of Jimena´s two known children, in the 1150s, suggest that they were born in the 1130s, which is not inconsistent with Jimena having been born from her father´s third marriage. This appears to be corroborated by the charter dated 26 Oct 1136 by which “Rogerius comes Fuxensis [et] Essena coniux ipsius” founded the commanderie of Ville-Dieu which refers to "infantes nostros"[255]. The date of the marriage of Comte Roger´s daughter Bradimène is inconsistent with this hypothesis, unless she was born from an otherwise unrecorded earlier marriage, or was illegitimate, as is proposed below. The only factor which appears to indicate the co-identity of the two daughters is that Jimena could have been named after her maternal grandmother, mother of her father´s first wife. However, the name was not uncommon in Spain at the time, and it is quite possible that Jimena was named after another relative. Until further primary source data emerges which contradicts this hypothesis, it has been decided to show Jimena has her father´s daughter by his third marriage in this document.
  
  Comte Roger [III] & his [first] wife had one child:
  
  1. BRADIMENE de Foix .
  
  Comte Roger [III] & his [second] wife had two children:
  
  2. ROGER BERNARD [I] "le Gros" de Foix (-Nov 1188).
  3. DULCE (Dolça) de Foix (-15 Feb or 25 Dec 1209, bur monastery of Bellpuig de les Avellanes).
  LOS TITULOS, SEÑORIOS CATEGORIAS SOCIALES, ETC.- NO SE PIDEN NI SE COLOCAN AL REGISTRAR OFICIALMENTE A UNA PERSONA.- SOLO EN ESTA ZONA BIOGRAFICA.-
  R.G.O.
  
  === Rogièr III de Fois, comte de Fois ===
  Rogièr III de Fois, comte de Fois
  Dutch: Roger III de Foix, comte de Fois, French: Roger Bernard III de Foix, comte de Foix, Spanish: Dn. Roger III de Foix, comte de Fois
  Also Known As:
  "Roger III de Foix"
  Birthdate:
  estimated between 1080 and 1124
  Death:
  1147
  Immediate Family:
  Son of Roger II, comte de Foix and Etiennette de Besalú, comtesse consort de Foix
  Husband of N.N. and Ximena de Barcelona, comtesse d'Osona
  Father of Bradimène de Foix; Roger-Bernard I le Gros, comte de Foix; Brunichilde de Foix and Douce de Foix
  Brother of Constance de Foix; Bernard de Foix; Pierre-Bernard de Foix and Raymond-Roger de Foix
  Occupation:
  Conde de Foix, Comte de Foix
  
  === Roger,
  
  3 Conde de Foix. ===
  Roger,
  
  3 Conde de Foix.
  
  === !Vol 3 - Tafel 145 ===
  !Vol 3 - Tafel 145

• m. BEF 1130 in Foix, Ariège, Occitanie, France

1. Dulce de Foix, b. 1140 in Foix, Ariège, Occitanie, France     d. 25 de diciembre de 1209 in Guàrdia de Noguera, Castell de Mur, Lérida, Cataluña, España

1. Title: Roots Web World Connect Project
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2. Title: Royal Genealogies (Volume II)
   Author: James Anderson, D.D., Royal Genealogies (Volume II), Table 394, Page 639 (upper right).
   
3. Title: Web: Netherlands, GenealogieOnline Trees Index, 1000-Current
   Publication: Name: http://search.ancestry.com/collections/9289/records/18786494;
   
4. Title: Foundation for Medieval Genealogy
   Publication: Name: https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/toulcofo.htm#RogerIIIFoixdied1147B;
   Note: ROGER [III] de Foix, son of ROGER [II] Comte de Foix & his second wife Estefanía de Besalú (-[1147/48]). “Rogerius comes Fuxensis…et filius meus Rogerius” restored property to the abbey of Alet by charter dated 1108[248]. “Rogerius comes Fuxi et filii mei Rogerius et Bernardus et Petrus” donated property to the abbey of Lezat by charter dated 1120[249]. He succeeded his father in 1124 as Comte de Foix. “Rogerius comes Fuxensis et fratres mei Petrus-Bernardi et Raimundus Rogerii” renounced their claim to the county of Carcassonne in favour of “Bernardo-Athonis vicecomite et cum uxore eius Cæcilia vicecomitissa, filiisque eorum Rogerio et Raimundo Trencavelli atque Bernardo” by charter dated 1 Apr 1125[250]. “Rogerius Fuxi comes, filius Rogerii et Stephaniæ” issued a charter dated Dec 1129[251]. "Rogerius comes Fuxensis…[et] Essena conjux ipsius" founded the commanderie of Ville-Dieu by charter dated 27 Oct 1136[252]. [m firstly ---. No direct evidence has been found which proves this supposed first marriage of Comte Roger [III]. However, the date of the marriage of his daughter Bradimene appears inconsistent with her having been the daughter of his wife Jimena de Barcelona.] m [secondly] (before [8 Jul] 1130) JIMENA de Barcelona, daughter of RAMON BERENGUER [III] Conde de Barcelona & his [third wife Dulce Ctss de Provence] ([1117/18]-after 1136). The testament of "Raimundus Berengarii…Barchinonensis comes et marchio" dated [8 Jul] 1130 names "Raimundo Berengarii filio meo…et filie mee ipsa de Castella et illa de Fuxo"[253]. Her name is more recognisably reproduced in the charter dated Nov 1149 of her son "Roggerus-Bernardi comes Fuxensis, filius Roggerii et Xaminiæ"[254]. In most secondary sources, Jimena is shown as the daughter of her father´s first marriage and widow of Bernat [III] Conde de Besalú. However, no primary source has yet been identified which confirms that this is correct and several reasons point to it being unlikely. Firstly, if Jimena had been the widow of the last comte de Besalú, her second husband would presumably have had the right to claim the county in her name, and there appears to be no indication that he ever did this. Secondly, the testament of her father names "filie mee…illa de Fuxo" after his daughter "ipsa de Castella". This would normally indicate that the former was younger than the latter. The only possible reason for reversing the order of his daughters would have been the supposed precedence of the queen of Castile over the comtesse de Foix. However, no other example of this adjustment to the order of names in primary source documents has been found, except those justified by the supposed precedence of children holding ecclesiastical office over lay children. Thirdly, Jimena would have named her daughter after her own mother. Fourthly, the dates of marriage of Jimena´s two known children, in the 1150s, suggest that they were born in the 1130s, which is not inconsistent with Jimena having been born from her father´s third marriage. This appears to be corroborated by the charter dated 26 Oct 1136 by which “Rogerius comes Fuxensis [et] Essena coniux ipsius” founded the commanderie of Ville-Dieu which refers to "infantes nostros"[255]. The date of the marriage of Comte Roger´s daughter Bradimène is inconsistent with this hypothesis, unless she was born from an otherwise unrecorded earlier marriage, or was illegitimate, as is proposed below. The only factor which appears to indicate the co-identity of the two daughters is that Jimena could have been named after her maternal grandmother, mother of her father´s first wife. However, the name was not uncommon in Spain at the time, and it is quite possible that Jimena was named after another relative. Until further primary source data emerges which contradicts this hypothesis, it has been decided to show Jimena has her father´s daughter by his third marriage in this document. Comte Roger [III] & his [first] wife had one child: 1. BRADIMENE de Foix . Comte Roger [III] & his [second] wife had two children: 2. ROGER BERNARD [I] "le Gros" de Foix (-Nov 1188). 3. DULCE (Dolça) de Foix (-15 Feb or 25 Dec 1209, bur monastery of Bellpuig de les Avellanes).
   
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9. Title: Legacy NFS Source: Roger III Comte de Foix - Published information: birth: about 1104; Ariège, Midi-Pyrénées (Région Moderne), France
   Note: Published information: birth: about 1104; Ariège, Midi-Pyrénées (Région Moderne), France Published information: birth-name: Roger III Comte de Foix Published information: male
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