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Ramón de Pallars Jussà IV
- Preferred Name: Ramón de Pallars Jussà IV[1] [2]
- Gender: M
- FSID: LXWS-6WJ
- Death: ABT 1047 in Pallars Jussà, Lleida, Catalonia, Spain at LATI: N2.2804 LONG: E0.653
- http://familysearch.org/v1/TitleOfNobility: 1st Count of Pallars Jussà ... Conde de Pallars JussàBET 1011 AND 1047
- Birth: ABT 995 in Pallars Jussà, Lleida, Catalonia, Spain at LATI: N2.2804 LONG: E0.653 with note: Foundation for Medieval Genealogy
- Notes:
=== Life Sketch ===
Wikipedia
Raymond IV (died 1047), called Ramon Sunyer (Spanish: Ramón Súñer), was the first Count of Pallars Jussà (Lower Pallars) from 1011 until his death. He succeeded his father, Count Sunyer I of Pallars, who divided his county between his two sons. Raymond, the elder, received Pallars Jussà and William II, the younger, received Pallars Sobirà. Raymond's mother, Ermentrude, was Sunyer's first wife.
As early as 1006, Raymond appears as co-count with his father, but while his father was styled "count by the grace of God", Raymond was merely styled "count". His brother William was not titled count at this time.
In 1040 Raymond signed a convention (convenientia) with Count Ermengol III of Urgell. He agreed to recognise Ermengol as his lord and in return receive an annual subsidy from the count. This was the first charter following the convenientia formula in Pallars Jussà. The scribe was a priest named Vidal who had a long career with Raymond's son, Raymond IV, and the latter's father-in-law, Lord Arnau Mir de Tost. In the same convention, Ermengol quitclaimed the castle of Llimiana (Liminina) to Raymond to put an end to "all the quarrels he had with him" (omnes querelas quas habebat de eum).
When Raymond IV, who succeeded his father, compelled his subjects to swear a collective public oath, he made reference to Raymond III and William II of Pallars Sobirà. On this basis, Pierre Bonnassie argued that the public oath probably originated at least under Raymond III and his brother and that Raymond IV was borrowing their formula. This would be an important piece of evidence that countship in Pallars still reflected the Carolingian model of public office rather than a model of private landowning.
Marriages and children
Raymond's first wife was Mayor, a daughter (probably the youngest) of Count García Fernández of Castile and Countess Ava of Ribagorza. The first record of their marriage dates to 3 August 1016, but by then they had been married for several years (since 1008/10). Ava's sister Tota was Count Sunyer's second wife and Raymond was thus married to the niece of his step-mother, perhaps through her arrangement. Sometime after January 1027, Raymond repudiated his wife. In 1028 Mayor was governing the monastery of San Miguel del Pedroso in Castile. She was still alive in 1034.
By 1029 Raymond had taken a second wife, Ermessinda. All that is known for certain of her origins is her mother's name, Gilga or Guisla. She may have been a daughter of Count Ermengol I of Urgell, whose second wife was Guisla (flourished 1005–10). Ermessinda was the mother of Raymond's sons, Raymond IV and Sunyer II. She may have been the mother of his only known daughter, Ricarda, who by 1044 was married to García Eizo. Ermessinda outlived her husband and died between 2 August 1055 and 27 October 1069.
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Preferred Parents:
Father: Sunyer de Lopez Conde de Pallars Sobirá, b. ABT 930 in el Pallars Sobirà, Lleida, Catalonia, Spain d. ABT 1010 in el Pallars Sobirà, Lleida, Catalonia, Spain
Mother: Ermentrude de Rouergue , b. ABT 948 in Rouergue, France d. ABT 1010 in Pallars, Lleida, Catalonia, Espagna
Family 1: Ermessinda de Urgel, b. ABT 1005 in Diócesis de Urgell, Spain d. AFT 2 MAR 1046 in Pallars Jussà, Lleida, Catalonia, Spain
- m. in Pallars Jussà, Lleida, Catalonia, Spain
- Ramon de Pallars Jussà V, b. ABT 1040 in Pallars Jussà, Lleida, Catalonia, Spain d. ABT 1098 in Pallars Jussà, Lleida, Catalonia, Spain
Family 2: Mayor Garcia de Castilla, b. ABT 980 in Castilla y León, Espagne d. 1039 in San Miguel de Pedroso, Belorado, Burgos, Castilla y León, Spain
- m. ABT 1008 in Pallars Jussà, Lleida, Catalonia, Spain
Sources:
- Title: Wikipedia - Ramon III
Author: Sources Kosto, Adam J. (2001). Making Agreements in Medieval Catalonia: Power, Order, and the Written Word, 1000–1200. Cambridge: Cambridge University Press. ISBN 0521792398. Martínez Díez, Gonzalo (2007). Sancho III el Mayor: Rey de Pamplona, Rex Ibericus. Madrid: Marcial Pons Historia. ISBN 9788496467477. Stasser, Thierry (1996). "Origine familiale de trois comtesses de Pallars". Anuario de Estudios Medievales. 26 (1): 3–18. doi:10.3989/aem.1996.v26.i1.685.
Publication: Name: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Raymond_III_of_Pallars_Jussà;
Note: Raymond III (died 1047), called Ramon Sunyer (Spanish: Ramón Súñer), was the first Count of Pallars Jussà (Lower Pallars) from 1011 until his death.[1] He succeeded his father, Count Sunyer I of Pallars, who divided his county between his two sons. Raymond, the elder, received Pallars Jussà and William II, the younger, received Pallars Sobirà. Raymond's mother, Ermentrude, was Sunyer's first wife.[2]
As early as 1006, Raymond appears as co-count with his father, but while his father was styled "count by the grace of God", Raymond was merely styled "count". His brother William was not titled count at this time.[2]
In 1040 Raymond signed a convention (convenientia) with Count Ermengol III of Urgell. He agreed to recognise Ermengol as his lord and in return receive an annual subsidy from the count. This was the first charter following the convenientia formula in Pallars Jussà. The scribe was a priest named Vidal who had a long career with Raymond's son, Raymond IV, and the latter's father-in-law, Lord Arnau Mir de Tost.[1] In the same convention, Ermengol quitclaimed the castle of Llimiana (Liminina) to Raymond to put an end to "all the quarrels he had with him" (omnes querelas quas habebat de eum).[3]
When Raymond IV, who succeeded his father, compelled his subjects to swear a collective public oath, he made reference to Raymond III and William II of Pallars Sobirà. On this basis, Pierre Bonnassie argued that the public oath probably originated at least under Raymond III and his brother and that Raymond IV was borrowing their formula. This would be an important piece of evidence that countship in Pallars still reflected the Carolingian model of public office rather than a model of private landowning.[4]
Marriages and children
Raymond's first wife was Mayor, a daughter (probably the youngest) of Count García Fernández of Castile and Countess Ava of Ribagorza. The first record of their marriage dates to 3 August 1016, but by then they had been married for several years (since 1008/10). Ava's sister Tota was Count Sunyer's second wife and Raymond was thus married to the niece of his step-mother, perhaps through her arrangement. Sometime after January 1027, Raymond repudiated his wife.[2] In 1028 Mayor was governing the monastery of San Miguel del Pedroso in Castile.[5] She was still alive in 1034.[2]
By 1029 Raymond had taken a second wife, Ermessinda. All that is known for certain of her origins is her mother's name, Gilga or Guisla. She may have been a daughter of Count Ermengol I of Urgell, whose second wife was Guisla (flourished 1005–10). Ermessinda was the mother of Raymond's sons, Raymond IV and Sunyer II. She may have been the mother of his only known daughter, Ricarda, who by 1044 was married to García Eizo. Ermessinda outlived her husband and died between 2 August 1055 and 27 October 1069.[2]
- Title: Foundation for Medieval Genealogy
Publication: Name: https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/ARAGONESE%20NOBILITY.htm#RaimundoIIIPallarsdiedafter1047;
Note: RAIMUNDO [III] ([995/1000]-after Oct 1049). The end 13th century “Crònica d´Alaó Renovada” names “Raymundum Sumarii et Guillelmum Sumarii” as the sons of “Sumarius”[73]. His birth date is estimated on the assumption that his mother´s first husband died “before 994” as shown in Europäische Stammtafeln[74]. Conde de Pallars-Jussà. “…Comite Guillelmo in Ripa-curtia, comite Raimundo in Palliares” are named in the dating clause of a charter dated 22 Sep 1005 under which “Atho vicecomes de Sola” confirmed the foundation of the monastery of Alaon[75]. A charter of Santa Maria de Gerri dated Apr 18 names "Raimundi Suniarii comtis et uxor mea comitissa…Maior"[76]. The document is dated to [1012] in the compilation but this appears early assuming that his birth date is correctly estimated as shown above. “Reimundo comite et coniux mea...Ermesindis comitissa” sold “castro in comitatum Ribacursense...Castellone ad Tauri” to “Ricolfo filio Ariolf et coniux suam...Eicolina” by charter dated 14 Dec 1040[77]. “Raimundus chomes Paliarense et uxor mea Ermessendis chomitissa” sold “rocha...Sancti Laurentii” to “Arnallus de Tost et uxor tua Arsem” by charter dated 15 Oct 1044[78]. “Raimundus...chomes Paliarense et coniuge sua Ermesindis...comitissa” sold “kastro de Sancti Laurencii cum...espelluncha de Miralles” to “Arnald Mir de Tost et uxor tua Arsindis” by charter dated 2 Mar 1046[79]. “Raimundo...comite” sold “terra...in apendicio de castro Orriti” to “Mir Daco” by charter dated Oct 1049[80]. m firstly (repudiated [1027/28]) MAYOR, daughter of [GARCÍA Fernández Conde de Castilla & his wife Ava de Ribagorza] (-after [early 1035]). A charter of Santa Maria de Gerri dated Apr 18 names "Raimundi Suniarii comtis et uxor mea comitissa…Maior"[81]. Her parentage is stated in the end 13th century “Crònica d´Alaó Renovada” which records that, after the death of “Guillelmum Ysarni, quem genuerat Ysarnus prefatus ex concubina”, Ribagorza was inherited by “rex Sancius...jure propinquitatis”, explained because “Major comitissa soror comitis Sancii de Castella” married “comitis Paliarensis Raimundi Suniarii” and remained in Ribagorza after their marriage was ended “consanguinitatis causa”, and because “rex Sancius Pampilonensis” married “filiam predicti comitis Sancii de Castella...Majorem”[82]. However, this appears doubtful. If she was Conde García's daughter, it is surprising that she did not witness the 8 Mar 974 agreement under which her supposed sister Urraca was consecrated to the monastery of Covarrubias. In addition, the considerable age difference between her and her supposed husband (if, as stated in Europäische Stammtafeln[83], his mother's first husband died before 994) seems unlikely. A more likely possibility is that Mayor was the daughter, not sister, of Sancho Conde de Castilla. After her repudiation, she returned to Castile where she is recorded in 1028 as abbess of the monastery of San Miguel de Pedroso and in early 1035 with Sancho III King of Navarre[84]. m secondly ERMESINDA, daughter of --- (-after 2 Mar 1046). “Reimundo comite et coniux mea...Ermesindis comitissa” sold “castro in comitatum Ribacursense...Castellone ad Tauri” to “Ricolfo filio Ariolf et coniux suam...Eicolina” by charter dated 14 Dec 1040[85]. “Raimundus chomes Paliarense et uxor mea Ermessendis chomitissa” sold “rocha...Sancti Laurentii” to “Arnallus de Tost et uxor tua Arsem” by charter dated 15 Oct 1044[86]. “Raimundus...chomes Paliarense et coniuge sua Ermesindis...comitissa” sold “kastro de Sancti Laurencii cum...espelluncha de Miralles” to “Arnald Mir de Tost et uxor tua Arsindis” by charter dated 2 Mar 1046[87]. Raimundo & his [second] wife had three children:
a) RAIMUNDO [IV] (-[1098/1 Apr 1100]).
b) SUNYER (-after 1103).
c) RICARDA . m GARCÍA Lizo, son of ---.
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