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Magred verch Herbert
- Preferred Name: Magred verch Herbert[1] [2] [3] [4] [5] [6] [7] [8] [9] [10] [11] [12] [13]
- Alternate Name: Margaret Herbert
- Alternate Name: Margred Herbert
- Alternate Name: Wogan
- Gender: F
- Death: in Wiston, Pembrokeshire, Wales, United Kingdom at LATI: N1.826 LONG: E4.873 with note: Standardized
- Christening: in Wales at LATI: N2.3302 LONG: E3.7664 with note: place of christening includes Godwin
- FSID: LZXD-HLV
- Birth: ABT 1421 in Wales, United Kingdom at LATI: N2.3302 LONG: E3.7664
- Notes:
=== Life Sketch ===
Margaret ap Thomas [ap means son of; shld be - merch 'daughter of']
Gender:f (Female)
Father:William ap Thomas
Mother:Gwaladys ferch Dafydd Cam [ferch is incorrect; shld be merch]
Spouse:Henry Wogan
Children:John Wogan
Margaret married Sir Henry Wogan,[10][16] steward[19] and treasurer of the Earldom of Pembroke, tasked with securing war material for the defence of Pembroke Castle.[20] Henry and his father, John Wogan of Picton, witnessed an act of Bishop Benedict in 1418. Their son, Sir John Wogan, was killed at the battle of Banbury in 1465, fighting by the side of his uncle, William Herbert, Earl of Pembroke.
Source attached below shows her name and her Father :
William and Gwladys had children:
•William Herbert, 1st Earl of Pembroke (1423–1469) took the surname Herbert.[10][16] William's allegiance to Richard, Duke of York, and Richard Neville, 16th Earl of Warwick, branded him Edward IV's Welsh "master-lock". He was the first full-blooded Welshman to enter the English peerage and he was knighted in 1452. He married Anne Devereux, daughter of Sir Walter Devereux, in 1449, and they had issue.[17]
•Sir Richard Herbert of Coldbrook, near Abergavenny; died on the battlefield of Danesmoor.[10][16]
•Elizabeth married Sir Henry Stradling[10][16] (1423–1476), son of Sir Edward Stradling (d. c.1394) and Gwenllian Berkerolles, sister and co-heir of his neighbour, Sir Lawrence Berkerolles. Reversing alliances from the previous generation, Henry and his brothers-in-law were hostile to the Henry VI reign. Henry went on a pilgrimage to the Holy Land in 1476. Henry died on 31 August 1476 on his journey back to England and was buried at Famagusta, Cyprus. Thomas, Elizabeth and Henry's young son, died on 8 September 1480.[18]
•Margaret married Sir Henry Wogan,[10][16] steward[19] and treasurer of the Earldom of Pembroke, tasked with securing war material for the defence of Pembroke Castle.[20] Henry and his father, John Wogan of Picton, witnessed an act of Bishop Benedict in 1418. Their son, Sir John Wogan, was killed at the battle of Banbury in 1465, fighting by the side of his uncle, William Herbert, Earl of Pembroke.[21]
Other children less consistently attributed to Gwladys and William include: Maud, Olivia, Elizabeth (who married Welsh country gentlemen, John ab Gwilym),[10] and Thomas Herbert.[16]
Raglan Castle[edit]
Wiki:
The children of Gwladys and William were:
William Herbert, 1st Earl of Pembroke (1423–1469) took the surname Herbert.[3][23] William's allegiance to Richard, Duke of York, and Richard Neville, 16th Earl of Warwick, branded him Edward IV's Welsh "master-lock". He was the first full-blooded Welshman to enter the English peerage and he was knighted in 1452. He married Anne Devereux daughter of Sir Walter Devereux in 1449, by whom he had issue.[24]
Sir Richard Herbert of Coldbrook, near Abergavenny; died on the battlefield of Danesmoor.[3][23]
Elizabeth married Sir Henry Stradling[3][23] (1423–1476), son of Sir Edward Stradling (d. c.1453) and the Lady Jane Joan Plantagenet de Beaufort (the bastard daughter of Cardinal Beaufort; m 1423). Margaret married Sir Henry Wogan,[3][23] steward[26] and treasurer of the Earldom of Pembroke, tasked with securing war material for the defence of Pembroke Castle.[27] Henry and his father, John Wogan of Picton, witnessed an act of Bishop Benedict in 1418. Their son, Sir John Wogan, was killed at the battle of Banbury in 1469, fighting by the side of his uncle, William Herbert, Earl of Pembroke.[28]
Other issue less consistently attributed to Gwladys and William include: Maud, Olivia, Elizabeth (who married Welsh country gentlemen, John ab Gwilym),[3] and Thomas Herbert.[
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=== Parents ===
So do not know why her parents were deleted there are plenty of sources stating who they were. This is one statement found showing who her Father was:
Sir HENRY WOGAN , steward of the earldom of Pembroke in 1448 (his wife was Margaret , daughter of Sir William Thomas , later Herbert , of Raglan ) , and his son, Sir JOHN WOGAN , whose wife was Matilda , daughter and heiress of William Clement , lord of Geneu'r-glyn , Cardiganshire , and who d. at the battle of Banbury , 26 July 1469 ( H. T. Evans , Wales and the Wars of the Roses , 109-10, 176, 184).
=== !#4569> Welsh Genealogies Ad 1400-1500,- ===
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=== !#4568> Welsh Genealogies Ad 300-1400,-v ===
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Preferred Parents:
Father: William ap Thomas The Blue Knight of Gwent, b. AFT 1394 in Raglan Castle, Raglan, Monmouthshire, Wales d. 27 JUL 1446 in Abergavenny, Monmouthshire, Wales
Mother: Gwladys ferch Dafydd Gam, b. 1392 in Peutun, Llan Ddew, Breconshire, Wales d. APR 1454 in Abergavenny, Monmouthshire, Wales
Family 1: Henry Wogan, b. 1402 in Wiston, Pembrokeshire, Wales d. 1469 in Banbury, Oxfordshire, England
- John Wogan, b. 1434 in Wiston, Pembrokeshire, Wales, United Kingdom d. 26 JUL 1469 in Danes Moor, Northamptonshire, England, United Kingdom
- Agnes Wogan, b. ABT 1440 in Wiston, Pembrokeshire, Wales d. in Wootton Wawen, Warwickshire, England
Family 2: Henry Donn, b. 1440 in Haverfordwest, Pembrokeshire, Wales d. 26 JUL 1469 in Banbury, Oxfordshire, England
Sources:
- Title: Medieval Welsh ancestors of certain Americans :
Author: Ancestry.com
Publication: Name: https://dcms.lds.org/delivery/DeliveryManagerServlet?dps_pid=IE523019;
Note: Rough Copy but it has on page 185 on the scroll bar and on page 168 of the actual book, Sir William Thomas and then down the paragraph has that his Daugther Margred married Henry Wogan Son of John Wogan.
Page: bottom of page 168 of the book states the relationship of William Herbert and wives and children and three illegitimate children.
- Title: Wikipedia Search for William ap Thomas
Author: Wikipedia
Publication: Name: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_ap_Thomas;
Note: Shows relationship to spouse henry Wogan and son John Wogan
- Title: FamilySearch Family Tree (http://www.familysearch.org)
Author: The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, \"FamilySearch Family Tree,\" database, FamilySearch (https://www.familysearch.org : 12 Nov 2018), entry for Joan Wogan, person ID LRGV-NYG;
Page: verifies info
- Title: West Wales Historical Record : Annual magazine V 6, 1916 Hathi trust digital Library
Author: Search in the Hathi Trust Digital library
Publication: Name: https://babel.hathitrust.org/cgi/pt?id=mdp.39015048401718;view=1up;seq=248;
Note: Gives history of the families in Wales, continue pass page 188 shows family pedigree his parents.
Page: Page 188 shows relationship to daughter margaret and spouse and Parents conitues on to page 194
- Title: The Heroines of Welsh History: Comprising Memoirs and Biographical Notices
Author: google books
Publication: Name: https://books.google.com/books?id=_lgJAAAAIAAJ&printsec=frontcover&source=gbs_atb#v=onepage&q=henry%20Wogan&f=false;
Note: gives relationships and bios of women in welsh History
Page: page 438 shows relationship to spouse henry wogan
- Title: Web: Netherlands, GenealogieOnline Trees Index, 1000-2015
Author: Ancestry.com
Publication: Name: https://search.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/sse.dll?indiv=1&dbid=9289&h=19019692&tid=58301757&pid=81011960173&hid=100777957478&usePUB=true&_phsrc=BMu598&_phstart=default&usePUBJs=true;
Note: Name: Sir Henry Wogan
Gender: m (Male)
Spouse: Margaret ap Thomas
Children: John Wogan
URL: https://www.genealogieonline.n...
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Page: shows relationship to spouse and son
- Title: Annals and Antiquities of the Counties and County Families of Wales, Volume 2
Author: Google Books
Publication: Name: https://books.google.com/books?id=WQ6wkDw8DnUC&pg=PA895&lpg=PA895&dq=Kt.+Sir+James+Bowen&source=bl&ots=VQcC6UdUV0&sig=AXKkBPB0ziubm6A4rd7Evv30u90&hl=en&sa=X&ei=FVqMVbeEBMGEsAX6iYBw&ved=0CCsQ6AEwAg#v=onepage&q=Kt.%20Sir%20James%20Bowen&f=false;
Note: Shows lineage of old Wales families
Page: page 834 shows picture of picton castle and info about its possession also on page 898 2nd column at the bottom shows lineage of the Sir Henry Dwnn (Donne) and how connects to the Owen Dwnn Picton Castle and to Catherine Wogan family daughter to John Wogan how she connects to Joan Picton daughter to William Picton norman Knight
- Title: Vaughan Family of Wales
Author: Search for Vaughan Family in wales
Publication: Name: https://archive.org/stream/VaughanFamilyOfWales/VaughanFamily#page/n7/mode/2up/search/Robert+Whitney;
Note: Shows relationship to spouse and daughter page 8 and brothers
Page: page 4 shows Father was Sir william ap Thomas and her two Brothers were william and Richard. Her Mother married William and then Roger Vaughan
- Title: Web: Netherlands, GenealogieOnline Trees Index, 1000-2015
Author: Ancestry
Publication: Name: https://search.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/sse.dll?indiv=1&dbid=9289&h=32918782&tid=58301757&pid=81011960397&hid=100777957384&usePUB=true&_phsrc=BMu599&_phstart=default&usePUBJs=true;
Note: Name: Margaret ap Thomas
Gender: f (Female)
Father: William ap Thomas
Mother: Gwaladys ferch Dafydd Cam
Spouse: Henry Wogan
Children: John Wogan
URL: https://www.genealogieonline.n...
Page: Shows relationship to parents and spouse and son
- Title: Heraldic visitations of Wales and part of the marches between the years 1586 and 1613 Vol. 1 by Lewys Dwnn
Author: Heraldic visitations of Wales and part of the marches between the years 1586 and 1613 Vol. 1 by Lewys Dwnn
Publication: Name: https://archive.org/details/HeraldicVisitationsOfWalesAndPartOfTheMarchesBetweenTheYears1586/page/n133/mode/2up?q=Wgans;
Note: This contains a corrected version of the Wogan (Wgan) pedigree on page 107.
book compiled of pedigrees of old wales families wogans vaughans owens Picton Pedigrees showing relationships and timeframes
Page: Page 220 gives a pedigree in welsh/english language showing a pedigree of the Wgan/Wogan family and the Picton Family shows the branch that goes down to Owain Dwnn ancestor who complied this book Lewys Dwnn. gives names of spouses of children and some places of where they lived.
- Title: Wogan Family--National Library of Wales
Author: search for Wogan family and relationship with the Thomas Herbert family
Publication: Name: https://biography.wales/article/s-WOGA-PEN-1250;
Note: Sir HENRY WOGAN , steward of the earldom of Pembroke in 1448 (his wife was Margaret , daughter of Sir William Thomas , later Herbert , of Raglan ) , and his son, Sir JOHN WOGAN , whose wife was Matilda , daughter and heiress of William Clement , lord of Geneu'r-glyn , Cardiganshire , and who d. at the battle of Banbury , 26 July 1469 ( H. T. Evans , Wales and the Wars of the Roses , 109-10, 176, 184).
Page: Shows that Margeret father is William thomas (Later Herbert)
- Title: The Visitations of Norfolk, 1563 and 1613
Author: google search for the book
Publication: Name: https://ukga.org/cgi-bin/browse.cgi?action=ViewRec&DB=13&bookID=181&pagecount=86&submit=Next;
Note: has information on the old families of the norfolk and Pendergest families
Page: shows relationships Pedigree
- Title: Ancestry Family Trees
Author: Ancestry Family Tree
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