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Alice de Colville
- Preferred Name: Alice de Colville[1]
- Alternate Name: de Brett
- Gender: F
- http://familysearch.org/v1/TitleOfNobility: Lady
- FSID: LR18-YDL
- Life Sketch: with note: Description: “Royal Ancestry: A Study in Colonial & Medieval Families,” Douglas Richardson (2013):
Children of John Fitz Gilbert (otherwise John Marshal), by Sibyl de Salisbury:
i. JOHN MARSHAL, of Great Bedwyn and Wexcombe (in Great Bedwyn), Wiltshire, Speen, Berkshire, Bosham, Sussex, Inkberrow and Upleden, Worcestershire, etc., King's Marshal, Sheriff of Yorkshire, 1189-90, Sheriff of Sussex, 1191-3, 3rd but 1st surviving son, and 1st son by his father's 2nd marriage, probably born in 1144 or 1145. He married JOAN DE PORT, daughter of Adam de Port, by his 1st wife, Mabel [?de Orval]. They had no issue. By his mistress, Alice de Coleville),* he had one illegitimate son, John, Knt., and three daughters, Alice (or Amice), Juliane, and Sibyl. He succeeded to part of his father's lands in 1165, and in 1166 he succeeded to the lands of his half-brother, Gilbert Fitz John, with the office of Master Marshal. In 1170 he was with Henry the Young King at Winchester. In 1171-2 he was sent to Ireland in charge of the treasure amounting to £333.6.8. Sometime in the period, 1185-94, he gave the church of Cheddar, Somerset to Bradenstoke Priory, Wiltshire for his soul and the souls of his father, brethren, and relatives at rest there. He acted as Marshal at the Coronation of King Richard I in 1189, where he carried the Gold Spurs. The same year the king confirmed him in the manor of Wexcombe (in Great Bedwyn), Wiltshire. He was appointed custodian and receiver of all escheats in England. He was acting as a judge in cos. Oxford and Berks in 1192. JOHN MARSHAL was killed in March 1194, while defending Marlborough Castle, Wiltshire for John, Count of Mortain [afterwards King John]. His corpse was brought to Cirencester, Gloucestershire, where there was a funeral service in the church. The body was subsequently buried in Bradenstoke Priory, Wiltshire. His widow, Joan, married (2nd) presumably in 1200 (as his 2nd wife) RICHARD DE RIVERS, an official of King John. She was living in 1204. He married (3rd) in 1214 MAUD DE BEAUCHAMP, widow of Geoffrey de Lascelles, daughter of William de Beauchamp, by Maud, daughter of Geoffrey de Lucy. In 1215 he was a supporter of the committee of barons charged to see to the observance of the Magna Carta. In 1221 he was appointed keeper of the dower lands of Queen Isabel of Angoulême, widow of King John. They had two sons, Richard, Knt., and Baldwin, Knt. RICHARD DE RIVERS died shortly before 15 March 1221/2. Brooke Discorvie of Certaine Errours (1724): 48-50 ("I ... shewed, for Marshals coate, one faire deed with a seale of Armes thereto, of Iohn Marshall father of William Marshall Earle of Penbroke, and Anselme, that was father to Iohn Marshall Baron of Rhia: on which scale was written, Iohn Marshall, and in his shield or escucheon, a bend fuzulie. Also I shewed a transcript of an other deed ... in which was written: Iohn, sonne of Iohn the Kinges Marshall, with the same Armes, of a bend fuzulie, testified under the hand of an Officer of armes"). Rpt. on the MSS of the Wells Cathedral (Hist. MSS Comm. 12A) (1885): 68. List of Sheriffs for England & Wales (PRO Lists and Indexes 9) (1898): 141. Meyer Histoire de Guillaume le Marathal 3 (1901): 8, 132-133. Cal. MSS. Dean & Chapter of Wells 1 (Hist. MSS. Comm., vol. 12B(1) (1907): 6, 13-14, 144, 309. Norgate Minority of Henry the Third (1912): 150-151. Phillimore Rotuli Hugonis de Welles, Episcopi Lincolniensis 1209-12352 (Lincoln Rec. Soc. 6) (1913): 69. Genealogist n.s. 33 (1917): 151-154. Book of Fees 1 (1920): 297. VCH Berkshire 4 (1924): 246-251. Painter William Marshal, Knight-Errant, Baron, & Regent of England (1933): 104-105, 116. C.P. 8 (1932): 525, footnote b (sub Marshal); 10 (1945): 358 footnoted (sub Pembroke), Appendix G, 91-99 (sub Rise of the Marshal); 11(1949): 12 (sub Rivers). Powicke Loss of Normandy (1961): 250. Clanchy Roll & Writ of the Berkshire Byre of 1248 (Selden Soc. 90) (1973): 12, 38 (Alice de Colevill is styled "grandmother" [avia] of Robert de Beauchamp and mother of Sibyl de Birmingham in lawsuit dated 1248). London Cartulary of Bradenstoke Priory (Wiltshire Rec. Soc. 35) (1979): 190. Duby William Marshal (1987). VCH Wiltshire 16 (1999): 8-49.
(* Note: Haskins Soc. Jour. 10 (2002): 265 identifies Alice de Coleville as the mistress of John Marshal [died 1194] above, elder brother of William Marshal, Earl of Pembroke. Alice de Coleville held the manors of Maidencourt (in East Garston), Berkshire and Dorton, Buckinghamshire in her own right, apparently by gift of the Marshal family. At an unknown date, she made a grant of six quarters of wheat at Maidencourt, Berkshire to the Priory of Sandleford for the souls of John le Marshal and his brother William Earl of Pembroke [see VCH Berkshire 4 (1924): 246-251]. Alice died sometime before 1220, by which date her lands at Dorton and Maidencourt had passed in equal shares to her daughters, Juliane (wife of Robert de Beauchamp) and Sibyl (wife of William de Birmingham) [see Book of Fees 1 (1920): 2971. Alice also held property at Wolfhall (in Great Bedwyn), Wiltshire which passed to her daughter, Juliane [see Maxwell-Lyre Two Regs. formerly belonging to the Fam. of Beauchamp of Hatch (Somerset Rec. Soc. 35) (1920): 59-60].)
Illegitimate children of John Marshal, by his mistress, Alice de Colevllle:
a. JOHN MARSHAL, Knt., Marshal of Ireland, of Hingham, Norfolk, married ALINE DE RYE [see HINGHAM 4].
b. ALICE (or AMICE) MARSHAL, married before 1225-6 WILLIAM DE BRIEN (or BRIAN, BRION), Knt., of Hoggeston, Buckinghamshire. In 1225-6 John Marshal, Knt., presented to the church of Hoggeston, Buckinghamshire, in virtue of his charge of the vill of Hoggeston, which he had by reason an exchange made with William de Brien, Knt. who had married his sister. Presumably she is the Lady Alice (or Amice) de Brian who held the manor of Hoggeston, Buckinghamshire in 1235 and 1242-3. Sometime before 1249 the manor of Hoggeston, Buckinghamshire passed to her nephew, William de Birmingham. Midland Antiguary 2 (1883): 126-131. C.Ch.R. 1(1903): 350. C.P.R. 1232-1247(1906): 130. Phillimore Rotuli Hugonis de Welles, Episcopi Lincolniensis 1209-1235 2 (Lincoln Rec. Soc. 6) (1913): 69. Book of Fees 2 (1923): 884. VCH Buckingham 3 (1925): 369-372.
c. JULIANE MARSHAL, married before 1220 ROBERT DE BEAUCHAMP, of Hatch Beauchamp, Marston, Shepton Beauchamp, and Stoke-under-Hamdon, Somerset, Bolbury Beauchamp (in Malborough), Devon, Shepperton, Middlesex, etc., Sheriff of Somerset and Dorset, 1222-3, and, in right of his wife, of Maidencourt (in East Garston), Berkshire and Dorton, Buckinghamshire, Wolfhall (in Great Bedwyn), Wiltshire, etc., son and heir of Simon de Vautort (or Valletort), by ___, daughter of Robert de Beauchamp. He was a minor at the death of his father c.1196. They had one son, Robert, Knt. He obtained his inheritance c.1211, after a long minority. In 1224 he had a dispute with Frithelstoke Priory regarding the churches of Shepperton, Middlesex and Stoke-under-Hamdon, Somerset. In 1227 he conveyed to Frithelstoke Priory a moiety of the advowson of the church of Frithelstoke, Devon. Sometime before 1229 he gave Bruton Priory license to buy and sell goods in his vill of Marston, Somerset free from all taxation and toll. In 1241 Richard Berenger quitclaimed to Robert and his wife, Juliane, all right in a moiety of the court which Alice de Coleville sometime held in Wolfhall (in Great Bedwyn), Wiltshire. His wife, Juliane, died before 1248. He was granted a yearly fair at his manor of Marston, Somerset in 1248. ROBERT DE BEAUCHAMP died shortly before 1 Feb. 1251/2. Lipscomb Hist. & Antiqs. of Buckingham 1 (1847): 239-241 (Beauchamp ped.). Midland Antiguary 2 (1883): 126-131. Somersetshire Arch. & Natural Hist. 36 (1891): 20-59. Notes & Queries 10th Ser. 8 (1907): 307-309, 471-473. Genealogist n.s. 33 (1917): 151-154. Maxwell-Lyre Two Regs. formerly belonging to the Fam. of Beauchamp of Hatch (Somerset Rec. Soc. 35) (1920): 58-60, 101-102. Book of Fees 2 (1923): 711, 745. VCH Middlesex 3 (1962): 1-12. Clanchy Roll & Writ of the Berkshire Eyre of 1248 (Selden Soc. 90) (1973): 12, 38 (Alice de Colevill is styled "grandmother" ravial of Robert de Beauchamp and mother of Sibyl de Birmingham in lawsuit dated 1248).
Child of Juliane Marshal, by Robert de Beauchamp:
1) ROBERT DE BEAUCHAMP, Knt., of Hatch Beauchamp, Somerset, married ALICE DE MOHUN [see SEYMOUR 9].
d. SIBYL MARSHAL, married before 1220 WILLIAM DE BIRMINGHAM, in right of his wife, of Maidencourt (in East Garston), Berkshire and Dorton, Buckinghamshire. They had one son, William (died c.1263). In 1255 his widow, Sibyl, and her nephew, Robert de Beauchamp, were in default in respect of the manor of Dorton, Buckinghamshire; they absented themselves from suit of court for three years., Midland Antiguao, 2 (1883): 126-131. Somersetshire Arch. & Natural Hist. 36 (1891): 20-59. Genealogist n.s. 33 (1917): 151-154. Book of Fees 1 (1920): 297. C.C.R. 1247-1251 (1922): 102-103. VCH Berkshire 4 (1924): 247-251 (Birmingham arms: Azure a bend indented or). VCH Buckingham 3 (1925): 369-372. Clanchy Roll & Writ of the Berkshire Eyre of 1248 (Selden Soc. 90) (1973): 12, 38 (Alice de Colevill is styled "grandmother" [avia] of Robert de Beauchamp and mother of Sibyl de Birmingham in lawsuit dated 1248).
- Birth: ABT 1150 in Cheadle, Staffordshire, England at LATI: N2.9884 LONG: E1.9809
- Death: 1220 in Cheadle, Staffordshire, England at LATI: N2.9884 LONG: E1.9809
- Notes:
=== Person note ===
mistress of John Marshal d- 1197
d- by 1220
granted by Marshal's - Maidencourt, Berkshire & Dourton, Buckinghamshire
after 1194 - ALICE COLEVILLE - made grant at Maidencourt, Berkshire -to- Poughley Priory, Berkshire
for the sous; of brothers JOHN Marshal & William Marshal, Earl of Pmebroke
after 1194 - ALICE COLEVILLE - made another grant of 6 acres of wheat in Maidencourt, Berkshire -to- Sandleford Priory -
for the souls of JOHN Marshal & William Marshal, Earl of Pembroke
1220- - Maidencourt was in the hands of HER SON IN LAWS, Robert BEAUCHAMP & William Brimingham
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Death: ABT 1230
Note: says she was a widow and mother of Juliana
Marriage 1 Ralph le Brett b: 1170 in Cheadle, Staffordshire, England
Children
Juliana Brett b: 1195
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Title: Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonist Who Came to America Before 1700
Publication: Name: Genealogical Publishing Co, Inc; Location: Baltimore, Maryland; Date: 2004 & 2006, Eighth Edition;
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=== Royal Ancestry Biography ===
“Royal Ancestry: A Study in Colonial & Medieval Families,” Douglas Richardson (2013):
Children of John Fitz Gilbert (otherwise John Marshal), by Sibyl de Salisbury:
i. JOHN MARSHAL, of Great Bedwyn and Wexcombe (in Great Bedwyn), Wiltshire, Speen, Berkshire, Bosham, Sussex, Inkberrow and Upleden, Worcestershire, etc., King's Marshal, Sheriff of Yorkshire, 1189-90, Sheriff of Sussex, 1191-3, 3rd but 1st surviving son, and 1st son by his father's 2nd marriage, probably born in 1144 or 1145. He married JOAN DE PORT, daughter of Adam de Port, by his 1st wife, Mabel [?de Orval]. They had no issue. By his mistress, Alice de Coleville),* he had one illegitimate son, John, Knt., and three daughters, Alice (or Amice), Juliane, and Sibyl. He succeeded to part of his father's lands in 1165, and in 1166 he succeeded to the lands of his half-brother, Gilbert Fitz John, with the office of Master Marshal. In 1170 he was with Henry the Young King at Winchester. In 1171-2 he was sent to Ireland in charge of the treasure amounting to £333.6.8. Sometime in the period, 1185-94, he gave the church of Cheddar, Somerset to Bradenstoke Priory, Wiltshire for his soul and the souls of his father, brethren, and relatives at rest there. He acted as Marshal at the Coronation of King Richard I in 1189, where he carried the Gold Spurs. The same year the king confirmed him in the manor of Wexcombe (in Great Bedwyn), Wiltshire. He was appointed custodian and receiver of all escheats in England. He was acting as a judge in cos. Oxford and Berks in 1192. JOHN MARSHAL was killed in March 1194, while defending Marlborough Castle, Wiltshire for John, Count of Mortain [afterwards King John]. His corpse was brought to Cirencester, Gloucestershire, where there was a funeral service in the church. The body was subsequently buried in Bradenstoke Priory, Wiltshire. His widow, Joan, married (2nd) presumably in 1200 (as his 2nd wife) RICHARD DE RIVERS, an official of King John. She was living in 1204. He married (3rd) in 1214 MAUD DE BEAUCHAMP, widow of Geoffrey de Lascelles, daughter of William de Beauchamp, by Maud, daughter of Geoffrey de Lucy. In 1215 he was a supporter of the committee of barons charged to see to the observance of the Magna Carta. In 1221 he was appointed keeper of the dower lands of Queen Isabel of Angoulême, widow of King John. They had two sons, Richard, Knt., and Baldwin, Knt. RICHARD DE RIVERS died shortly before 15 March 1221/2. Brooke Discorvie of Certaine Errours (1724): 48-50 ("I ... shewed, for Marshals coate, one faire deed with a seale of Armes thereto, of Iohn Marshall father of William Marshall Earle of Penbroke, and Anselme, that was father to Iohn Marshall Baron of Rhia: on which scale was written, Iohn Marshall, and in his shield or escucheon, a bend fuzulie. Also I shewed a transcript of an other deed ... in which was written: Iohn, sonne of Iohn the Kinges Marshall, with the same Armes, of a bend fuzulie, testified under the hand of an Officer of armes"). Rpt. on the MSS of the Wells Cathedral (Hist. MSS Comm. 12A) (1885): 68. List of Sheriffs for England & Wales (PRO Lists and Indexes 9) (1898): 141. Meyer Histoire de Guillaume le Marathal 3 (1901): 8, 132-133. Cal. MSS. Dean & Chapter of Wells 1 (Hist. MSS. Comm., vol. 12B(1) (1907): 6, 13-14, 144, 309. Norgate Minority of Henry the Third (1912): 150-151. Phillimore Rotuli Hugonis de Welles, Episcopi Lincolniensis 1209-12352 (Lincoln Rec. Soc. 6) (1913): 69. Genealogist n.s. 33 (1917): 151-154. Book of Fees 1 (1920): 297. VCH Berkshire 4 (1924): 246-251. Painter William Marshal, Knight-Errant, Baron, & Regent of England (1933): 104-105, 116. C.P. 8 (1932): 525, footnote b (sub Marshal); 10 (1945): 358 footnoted (sub Pembroke), Appendix G, 91-99 (sub Rise of the Marshal); 11(1949): 12 (sub Rivers). Powicke Loss of Normandy (1961): 250. Clanchy Roll & Writ of the Berkshire Byre of 1248 (Selden Soc. 90) (1973): 12, 38 (Alice de Colevill is styled "grandmother" [avia] of Robert de Beauchamp and mother of Sibyl de Birmingham in lawsuit dated 1248). London Cartulary of Bradenstoke Priory (Wiltshire Rec. Soc. 35) (1979): 190. Duby William Marshal (1987). VCH Wiltshire 16 (1999): 8-49.
(* Note: Haskins Soc. Jour. 10 (2002): 265 identifies Alice de Coleville as the mistress of John Marshal [died 1194] above, elder brother of William Marshal, Earl of Pembroke. Alice de Coleville held the manors of Maidencourt (in East Garston), Berkshire and Dorton, Buckinghamshire in her own right, apparently by gift of the Marshal family. At an unknown date, she made a grant of six quarters of wheat at Maidencourt, Berkshire to the Priory of Sandleford for the souls of John le Marshal and his brother William Earl of Pembroke [see VCH Berkshire 4 (1924): 246-251]. Alice died sometime before 1220, by which date her lands at Dorton and Maidencourt had passed in equal shares to her daughters, Juliane (wife of Robert de Beauchamp) and Sibyl (wife of William de Birmingham) [see Book of Fees 1 (1920): 2971. Alice also held property at Wolfhall (in Great Bedwyn), Wiltshire which passed to her daughter, Juliane [see Maxwell-Lyre Two Regs. formerly belonging to the Fam. of Beauchamp of Hatch (Somerset Rec. Soc. 35) (1920): 59-60].)
Illegitimate children of John Marshal, by his mistress, Alice de Colevllle:
a. JOHN MARSHAL, Knt., Marshal of Ireland, of Hingham, Norfolk, married ALINE DE RYE [see HINGHAM 4].
b. ALICE (or AMICE) MARSHAL, married before 1225-6 WILLIAM DE BRIEN (or BRIAN, BRION), Knt., of Hoggeston, Buckinghamshire. In 1225-6 John Marshal, Knt., presented to the church of Hoggeston, Buckinghamshire, in virtue of his charge of the vill of Hoggeston, which he had by reason an exchange made with William de Brien, Knt. who had married his sister. Presumably she is the Lady Alice (or Amice) de Brian who held the manor of Hoggeston, Buckinghamshire in 1235 and 1242-3. Sometime before 1249 the manor of Hoggeston, Buckinghamshire passed to her nephew, William de Birmingham. Midland Antiguary 2 (1883): 126-131. C.Ch.R. 1(1903): 350. C.P.R. 1232-1247(1906): 130. Phillimore Rotuli Hugonis de Welles, Episcopi Lincolniensis 1209-1235 2 (Lincoln Rec. Soc. 6) (1913): 69. Book of Fees 2 (1923): 884. VCH Buckingham 3 (1925): 369-372.
c. JULIANE MARSHAL, married before 1220 ROBERT DE BEAUCHAMP, of Hatch Beauchamp, Marston, Shepton Beauchamp, and Stoke-under-Hamdon, Somerset, Bolbury Beauchamp (in Malborough), Devon, Shepperton, Middlesex, etc., Sheriff of Somerset and Dorset, 1222-3, and, in right of his wife, of Maidencourt (in East Garston), Berkshire and Dorton, Buckinghamshire, Wolfhall (in Great Bedwyn), Wiltshire, etc., son and heir of Simon de Vautort (or Valletort), by ___, daughter of Robert de Beauchamp. He was a minor at the death of his father c.1196. They had one son, Robert, Knt. He obtained his inheritance c.1211, after a long minority. In 1224 he had a dispute with Frithelstoke Priory regarding the churches of Shepperton, Middlesex and Stoke-under-Hamdon, Somerset. In 1227 he conveyed to Frithelstoke Priory a moiety of the advowson of the church of Frithelstoke, Devon. Sometime before 1229 he gave Bruton Priory license to buy and sell goods in his vill of Marston, Somerset free from all taxation and toll. In 1241 Richard Berenger quitclaimed to Robert and his wife, Juliane, all right in a moiety of the court which Alice de Coleville sometime held in Wolfhall (in Great Bedwyn), Wiltshire. His wife, Juliane, died before 1248. He was granted a yearly fair at his manor of Marston, Somerset in 1248. ROBERT DE BEAUCHAMP died shortly before 1 Feb. 1251/2. Lipscomb Hist. & Antiqs. of Buckingham 1 (1847): 239-241 (Beauchamp ped.). Midland Antiguary 2 (1883): 126-131. Somersetshire Arch. & Natural Hist. 36 (1891): 20-59. Notes & Queries 10th Ser. 8 (1907): 307-309, 471-473. Genealogist n.s. 33 (1917): 151-154. Maxwell-Lyre Two Regs. formerly belonging to the Fam. of Beauchamp of Hatch (Somerset Rec. Soc. 35) (1920): 58-60, 101-102. Book of Fees 2 (1923): 711, 745. VCH Middlesex 3 (1962): 1-12. Clanchy Roll & Writ of the Berkshire Eyre of 1248 (Selden Soc. 90) (1973): 12, 38 (Alice de Colevill is styled "grandmother" ravial of Robert de Beauchamp and mother of Sibyl de Birmingham in lawsuit dated 1248).
Child of Juliane Marshal, by Robert de Beauchamp:
1) ROBERT DE BEAUCHAMP, Knt., of Hatch Beauchamp, Somerset, married ALICE DE MOHUN [see SEYMOUR 9].
d. SIBYL MARSHAL, married before 1220 WILLIAM DE BIRMINGHAM, in right of his wife, of Maidencourt (in East Garston), Berkshire and Dorton, Buckinghamshire. They had one son, William (died c.1263). In 1255 his widow, Sibyl, and her nephew, Robert de Beauchamp, were in default in respect of the manor of Dorton, Buckinghamshire; they absented themselves from suit of court for three years., Midland Antiguao, 2 (1883): 126-131. Somersetshire Arch. & Natural Hist. 36 (1891): 20-59. Genealogist n.s. 33 (1917): 151-154. Book of Fees 1 (1920): 297. C.C.R. 1247-1251 (1922): 102-103. VCH Berkshire 4 (1924): 247-251 (Birmingham arms: Azure a bend indented or). VCH Buckingham 3 (1925): 369-372. Clanchy Roll & Writ of the Berkshire Eyre of 1248 (Selden Soc. 90) (1973): 12, 38 (Alice de Colevill is styled "grandmother" [avia] of Robert de Beauchamp and mother of Sibyl de Birmingham in lawsuit dated 1248).
Family 1: John Marshal, b. ABT 1144 in Great Bedwyn, Wiltshire, England d. MAR 1194 in Marlborough Castle, Marlborough, Wiltshire, England
- John Marshal, 1st Baron Marshal of Hingham, b. ABT 1170 in Hingham, Norfolk, England d. 27 JUN 1235 in Hockering, Norfolk, England
- Sybil Marshall, b. ABT 1173 in Berkshire, England d. 1255 in Maidencourt Berkshire England
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