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Mael Muire Mac Donnchad Mormaer of Atholl Mormaer of Atholl Mormaer of Atholl
- Preferred Name: Mael Muire Mac Donnchad Mormaer of Atholl Mormaer of Atholl Mormaer of Atholl[1] [2] [3] [4]
- Alternate Name: MELMARE PRINCE of Scotland
- Gender: M
- http://familysearch.org/v1/TitleOfNobility: Mormaer of Atholl (Earl of Atholl), Prince of Scotland
- Title of Nobility: with note: Description: Earl of Atholl
- Title of Nobility: in Aberargie, Perthshire, Scotland at LATI: N6.3167 LONG: E3.35 with note: Description: Prince of Scotland
- FSID: GKQH-R1Q
- User Reference Number: with note: Description: 25028
- Title of Nobility: in Aberargie, Perthshire, Scotland at LATI: N6.3167 LONG: E3.35 with note: Description: Earl of Atholl
- _FSFTID: with note: Description: 9H45-SHF
- Death: 1128 in Cumberland, England at LATI: N4.5307 LONG: E3.0762
- Birth: 1037 in Perth, Perthshire, Scotland at LATI: N6.4 LONG: E3.4333
- Notes:
=== Life Sketch ===
Máel Muire of Atholl was Mormaer of Atholl at the beginning of the 12th century, until sometime in the 1130s. According to the Orkneyinga Saga, Máel Muire was a son of king Donnchad I and a younger brother of King Máel Coluim III. A Malmori d' Athótla is mentioned in a charter relating to a year after 1130, contained within the Book of Deer.
=== Prince of Scotland. ===
Prince of Scotland.
Preferred Parents:
Father: Duncan King of Scotland I, b. 15 AUG 1001 in Atholl, Perthshire, Scotland d. 14 AUG 1040 in Pitgavenny, Morayshire, Scotland
Mother: Suthen ,
Sources:
- Title: MAELMUIRE [Melmare] EARLS OF ATHOLL - Foundation for Medieval Genealogy
Publication: Name: http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/SCOTTISH%20NOBILITY.htm#Maelmuire;
Note: B. EARLS of ATHOLL
1. MAELMUIRE [Melmare] (-after [1135]). According to the Complete Peerage, Melmare, who it says was the father of Madach Earl of Atholl, was Maelmuire, son of Duncan I King of Scotland & his wife ---, but it cites no corresponding primary source[145]. The primary source which confirms that this is correct has not yet been identified. The only primary source reference to Maelmuire which has so far been found is the undated charter under which David I King of Scotland granted protection to the clerics of Deer, which is witnessed by "Donchado comite de Fib et Malmori d’Athotla et Ggillebrite comite d’Engus et Ghgillcomded Mac Aed…"[146]. From the names of the earls of Fife and Angus, it is unlikely that this document can be dated to before 1135 at the earliest. If that is correct, it is evidently impossible from a chronological point of view that Maelmuire could have been the son of King Duncan I.
2. MADDAD [Madach] (-[1142/52]). According to the Complete Peerage, Madach Earl of Atholl was the son of Maelmuire, but it cites no corresponding primary source[147]. The sources quoted below, dated to before the charter in which Maelmuire is named (see above), suggest that this affiliation cannot be correct. The primary source which confirms his parentage has not yet been identified. Mormaer of Atholl. "Alexander nepos regis Alexandri, Beth comes, Gospatricius Dolfini, Mallus comes, Madach comes, Rothri comes, Gartnach comes, Dufagan comes, Willelmus frater regine, Edwardus constabularius, Gospatricius filius Walthef, Ufieth Alfricus pincerna" witnessed the charter dated to [1114/15] under which "Alexander…rex Scottorum filius regis Malcolmi et regine Margerete et…Sibilla regina Scottorum filia Henrici regis Anglie" reformed Scone Abbey[148]. He is known as the first Earl of Atholl. "…Madach comes…" subscribed the possibly spurious charter dated to [1120] of "Alexander…Rex Scottorum…Sibilla regina Scottorum…"[149]. "…Madeth comes…" witnessed a charter dated to [1128] by which "David…Rex Scottorum" made grants to the church of Dunfermline[150]. "Madeth comite…" witnessed a charter dated 1130 by which "David…Rex Scottorum" confirmed the shire of Kirkcaldy to the church of Dunfermline[151]. "…Madd comite…" witnessed a charter dated to [1135] by which "David Rex Scottorum" granted Swinton to "Arnulfo…mee militi"[152]. [m firstly ---. No direct evidence has yet been found to corroborate Maddad’s first marriage. However, the chronology of his son Malcolm suggests that he was not born from Maddad’s marriage to Margaret of Orkney.] m [secondly] ([1133]) as her first husband, MARGARET of Orkney, illegitimate daughter of HAKON Paulsson Jarl of Orkney & his mistress Helga ---. Orkneyinga Saga names “Harald…Smooth-Tongue and two daughters…Ingibjorg…Margaret” as the children of Earl Hakon and his mistress Helga[153]. It is unlikely that Margaret was born after [1115] if it is correct that her son was born in 1134. Orkneyinga Saga records that “Margaret Hakon’s-Daughter” married “Earl Maddad of Atholl”[154]. She married secondly Erland "Ungi/the Young" (-killed 1156). Orkneyinga Saga records that “Erlend the Young” abducted Margaret from Orkney and took her to Shetland, and that her son eventually granted permission for their marriage[155]. Earl Maddad & his [first wife] had one child:
a) MALCOLM (-[1186/Aug 1198]). His parentage is confirmed by the Liber Vitæ of Durham, as corrected by Balfour Paul (see below). Earl of Atholl. "Malcolmus comes Atholie…sponsa mea E. comitissa" donated "ecclesiam de Molin" to Dunfermline monastery by undated charter witnessed by "…H filio meo…"[156].
- see below.
Earl Maddad & his [second] wife had one child:
b) HARALD Maddadsson (1134-1206). Orkneyinga Saga names “Harald” as son of “Margaret Hakon’s-Daughter” and her husband “Earl Maddad of Atholl” when recording that his mother proposed him as earl of Orkney when he was three years old[157]. He was given ½ Orkney by Jarl Kali-Ragnvald in Dec 1139, and installed in early 1140 as Jarl of Orkney.
- JARLS of ORKNEY.
Page: Identifies Mael Mure as the same as Melmare; identifies him as Earl of Atholl until after 1135. Identifies him as the son of Duncan I King of Scotland and his wife, and as the father of Madach Earl of Atholl (also known as Maddad)
- Title: MAELMUIRE son of DUNCAN I King of Scotland - Foundation for Medieval Genealogy
Publication: Name: http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/SCOTLAND.htm#_Toc65391144;
Note: B. KINGS OF SCOTLAND 1034-1290
DUNCAN [Donnchad], son of CRINAN "the Thane" Mormaer of Atholl & his wife Bethoc of the Scots ([1001]-killed in battle either Bothganowan/Pitgaveny, near Elgin, or Burghead 14 Aug 1040, bur Isle of Iona). His parentage is confirmed by the Annals of Ulster which record the death of "Donnchad son of Crínán, king of Scotland" in 1040[267]. He is not named as king in the 12th century Cronica Regum Scottorum king-list[268]. The Chronicle of John of Fordun names "Duncan" as son of "Crynyne Abthane of Dul and Steward of the Isles" and his wife[269]. He succeeded in 1018 as King of Strathclyde. He succeeded his maternal grandfather in 1034 as DUNCAN I King of Scotland. Orkneyinga Saga records that “Karl Hundason” succeeded King Malcolm in Scotland and records his battles with Thorfinn Jarl of Orkney[270]. No other record has been identified of this alleged person. The Annales Dunelmenses record that "Dumechanus rex Scotorum" besieged Durham in 1039 with a large army but retreated from the siege[271]. He was killed in battle by his first cousin, Macbeth, who succeeded as King of Scotland. The Chronicon of Marianus Scottus records that "Donnchal rex Scotiæ" was killed "1040 XIX Kal Sep" by "duce suo Macbethad mac Finnloech" who succeeded as king for 17 years[272]. The Annals of Ulster record that "Donnchad son of Crínán, king of Scotland, was killed by his own people" in 1040[273]. The Annals of Tigernach record that “Donncadh mac Crínan, airdrí Alban” was killed “immaturo etate a suis” in 1040[274]. The Chronicle of John of Fordun records that Duncan was killed by "Machabeus son of Finele…at Bothgofnane" and buried in the island of Iona[275]. The Chronicle of the Scots and Picts dated 1177 records that "Donchath mac Cran Abbatis de Dunkelden et Bethok filia Malcolm mac Kynnet" reigned for 6 years, was killed "a Maketh mac Fyngel in Bothngouane" and was buried "in Yona insula"[276].
m ([1030]) [SIBYLLA], [cousin of SIWARD Earl of Northumbria, daughter of ---]. The Chronicle of John of Fordun records that the mother of Malcolm and Donald Bane, Duncan’s sons, was "the cousin of Earl Siward"[277]. This information is not included in any earlier source and should be considered dubious. In one earlier king list, King Malcolm III's mother is named "Suthen"[278]. No reference has been found in primary sources to her being named Sibylla, the name found in many secondary sources.
King Duncan I & his wife had [three] children:
1. MALCOLM (1031-killed in battle near Alnwick, Northumberland 13 Nov 1093, bur Tynemouth, later transferred to Dunfermline Abbey, Fife, and later still to Escorial, Madrid). The Chronicon of Marianus Scottus records that "Moelcol…filius Donchael" succeeded Lulach in 1058[279]. He succeeded in 1058 as MALCOLM III "Caennmor/Bighead" King of Scotland.
- see below.
2. DONALD (-in prison Rescobie, Forfarshire 1099, bur Dunkeld Abbey, later transferred to Isle of Iona). Matthew Paris names him as brother of King Malcolm, and records that he was elected by the Scots to succeed his brother in 1093 as DONALD III "Bane" King of Scotland[280]. Florence of Worcester records that "Dufenaldum regis Malcolmi fratrem" was elected king after his brother's death but that "filius regis Malcolmi Dunechain" expelled "patruum suum Dufenaldum"[281]. According to Florence of Worcester, he expelled all the English from the Scottish court[282]. "Douenald filius Conchat Regis" made donations "cum ceteris regibus…Duncano rege Edgaro et Alexandro et David fratribus"[283]. This charter is undated and the reference to the four brothers all as kings indicates that it is probably spurious. Florence of Worcester records that King Donald was deposed in 1094 by his nephew Duncan, with help from the English and Normans[284]. The Annals of Inisfallen record that "Domnall son of Donnchadh” killed “Donnchadh son of Mael Coluim king of Alba” in 1094 and “took the kingship of Alba”[285]. The Chronicle of John of Fordun records that "his uncle Donald…again usurped the kingship" after the death of "Duncan, King Malcolm’s illegitimate son" and reigned for three years[286]. Florence of Worcester records that "clitorem Eadgarum" led an army to Scotland in [1097] to place "consobrinum suum Eadgarum Malcolmi regis filium" on the Scottish throne after expelling "patruo suo Dufenaldo"[287]. William of Malmesbury records that King Duncan II "was murdered by the wickedness of his uncle Donald" and that the latter was "dispatched by the contrivance of David, the youngest brother and the power of [King] William [II]"[288]. He was imprisoned. The Chronicle of the Picts and Scots dated 1251 records that "Donald mac Donchat" was captured "a Edgar mac Malcolm", blinded, died in "Rosolpin" and was buried "in Dunkelden", transferred to Iona[289]. m ---. The name of Donald's wife is not known. King Donald III & his wife had [one child]:
a) [BETHOC (-[1150/70][290]). The sources are contradictory regarding the supposed child of King Donald. The proofs relating to the claim to the Scottish throne in 1291 made by "dñi Johannis Comyn" name "Gothrik" as the son of "Dovenald filius Duncani filii Erici", and trace John Comyn’s descent from him[291]. However, in the Great Roll, John Comyn traced his descent from Bethoc, daughter and heiress of Donald[292]. Bethoc’s first marriage is confirmed by a charter of King Henry III dated 1261 which confirmed to John Comyn the land inherited from Hextildis, wife of Richard Comyn and daughter of Uhtred son of Waltheof[293]. Her second marriage is referred to by Young but he does not cite the corresponding primary source, which has not yet been identified[294]. Altogether the chronology for Bethoc is stretched almost to beyond credibility. Her supposed father King Donald Bane must have been born before 1040, and yet his daughter is supposed to have been living more than 100 years later, and her supposed second husband living in the last quarter of the 12th century. It is suggested that this supposed descent of Hextilda, wife of Richard Comyn, from King Donald Bane should be treated with caution. m firstly ([1085]) UHTRED Lord of Tynedale, son of [295]WALTHEOF & his wife ---. The 1130 Pipe Roll records "Uctred fil Walleof" in Northumberland[296]. m secondly RADULF, son of DUNEGALL Lord of Nithsdale (-[1185]).] [Bethoc & her first husband] had [one child]:
i) [HEXTILDA of Tynedale . The proofs relating to the claim to the Scottish throne in 1291 made by "dñi Johannis Comyn" name "Hextilde" as daughter and heiress of "Gothrik", son of "Dovenald filius Duncani filii Erici", and "Willelmo" as her son and heir[297]. “R. Cumin” donated property to Hexham Priory, with the consent of “uxoris meæ Hextildis”, by undated charter which names “fratrem meum Walterum”[298]. "Ric Cymyn" donated "ecclesiam de Lyntunruderie" to Kelso monastery, for the souls of "Henrici comitis dni mei et…Johis filii mei quorum corpa apud eos tumulant", by charter dated to [1160], witnessed by "Hextild sponsa mea, Od filio meo…"[299]. "Ricardus Cumin" donated [Slapfeld] to Holyrood Abbey, with the consent of "Hestild uxoris mee et heredum meorum", by charter dated to [1166] witnessed by "…Odinello et Simone filiis meis…"[300]. Her second marriage is confirmed by the undated charter under which “Hextildis comitissa de Eththetela” donated property to Rievall Abbey, for the soul of “domini mei Richardi Cumin”[301]. "Malcolmus comes de Athoil" donated "ecclesiam de Dul" to St Andrew’s priory by undated charter witnessed by "Dunecano comite de Fif, Hextilda comitissa sponsa mea…Henrico et Dunecano filiis meis…"[302]. The Liber Vitæ of Durham lists (in order) "Hextild, Willelmus, Odenellus, Simon, Ricardus Cumin…", and in a later passage "Malcolmus filius Mal. et comes Athodlie, Hextilda filia Ucthredi uxor eius…"[303]. m firstly ([1144/50]) RICHARD Comyn, son of --- Cumin [Comyn] & his wife --- (-[1179]). m secondly (after 1179) as his second wife, her second cousin, MALCOLM Earl of Atholl, son of MADDAD Earl of Atholl & his first wife --- (-[1186/Aug 1198]).]
3. [MAELMUIRE [Melmare] . According to the Complete Peerage, Melmare, who it says was the father of Madach Earl of Atholl, was the son of Duncan I King of Scotland & his wife ---, but it cites no corresponding primary source[304]. The primary source which confirms that this is correct has not yet been identified. The only primary source reference to Maelmuire which has so far been found is the undated charter under which David I King of Scotland granted protection to the clerics of Deer, which is witnessed by "Donchado comite de Fib et Malmori d’Athotla et Ggillebrite comite d’Engus et Ghgillcomded Mac Aed…"[305]. From the names of the earls of Fife and Angus, it is unlikely that this document can be dated to before 1135 at the earliest. If that is correct, it is evidently impossible from a chronological point of view that Maelmuire could have been the son of King Duncan I.]
Page: Identifies Mael Muire as the son of Duncan I King of Scotland and his wife Sybilla, also younger brother of King Malcolm III and King Donald III. Also identifies him as the same as "Melmare" and as the father of Madach Earl of Atholl
- Title: Maelmare Dhonnachadh Research
Author: On the Web. The Geneanet family.
Publication: Name: https://gw.geneanet.org/belfast8?lang=en&p=maelmare+of&n=scotland;
Note: M Maelmare Of SCOTLAND (Mormaer of Atholl)
(Maelmare Of SCOTLAND)
Born in 1038 - Perth, Perthshire, Scotland
Deceased in 1128 - Perthshire, Scotland, aged 90 years old
Parents
Duncan I Of (KING OF SCOTLAND) SCOTLAND, born 15 August 1005 - Perthshire, Scotland, deceased 14 August 1040 - Elgin, Moray, Scotland aged 34 years old
Married in 1030, Perth, Perthshire, Scotland, to
Sibyl (Daughter Of) SIWARD, born in 1014 - Northumberland, England, deceased in 1040 - Scotland aged 26 years old
Spouses, children, grandchildren and great-grandchildren
With ? ? with
M Maddad 'Madach" ( 1st Earl of Atholl) x 1085-1152 Married in 1133, Orkney, Scotland, to Margaret ( Countess Orkney) Haakonsdatter 1108-1154 with
M Malcolm (2nd Earl of Atholl) x 1126-1198 Married in 1175, East Lothian, Scotland, to Hextilda Widow of Richard Comyn ? 1122-1182
Malcolm (2nd Earl of Atholl) x 1126-1198 With ? ? with :
M Simon Atholl 1161-1222
M Henry ATHOLL 1163-1211
M Duncan Atholl 1165-
M Malcolm Atholl 1167-1198
M Harald Athol 1130-1206
Siblings
M Donald Ban Of (KING OF SCOTLAND) SCOTLAND ca 1030-
M Malcolm III (Longneck) Of (KING OF SCOTLAND) SCOTLAND 1031-1093 Married in 1067, Perthshire, Scotland, to Margarite (Queen of SCOTLAND) ATHELING 1045-1093
M Duncan (Ceanmor) Of SCOTLAND 1038-1097 With ? ?
Paternal grand-parents, uncles and aunts
M Crinan (the Thane) (Abbot of Dunkeld) MORMAER 980-1045 married (1005)
F Beatroc Beatrix of Malcom (Princess of Scotland) x 980-1013
M Duncan I Of (KING OF SCOTLAND) SCOTLAND 1005-1040
married (1030)
4 children
M Maldred Of DUNBAR 1015-1045
with
2 children
M ** NISBET ca 1025-
with
1 child
Sources
Individual: Ancestry.com.au - http://www.Ancestry.com.au - Ancestry Family Trees - Online publication - Provo, UT, USA: Ancestry.com. Original data: Family Tree files submitted by Ancestry members. - This information comes from 1 or more individual Ancestry Family Tree files. This source citation points you to a current version of those files. Note: The owners of these tree files may have removed or changed information since this source citation was created. - Ancestry Family Trees - http://trees.ancestry.com/pt/AMTCitationRedir.aspx?tid=18829447&pid=8138
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Ancestry Chart Descendancy Chart
_____| 16_ Duncan MORMAER ca 930-
_____| 8_ Duncan (of Dunkeld) MORMAER 962-1040
/ ¯¯¯¯¯| 17_ ? ?
_____| 4_ Crinan (the Thane) (Abbot of Dunkeld) MORMAER 980-1045
/ \
/ ¯¯¯¯¯| 9_ ? ?
/
|2_ Duncan I Of (KING OF SCOTLAND) SCOTLAND 1005-1040
| \ _____| 20_ Kenneth II MACKENNETH 932-
| \ _____| 10_ Malcolm II (KING OF SCOTLAND) SCOTLAND 958-1034
| \ / ¯¯¯¯¯| 21_ Auligigu Of LEINSTER ca 935-1034
| ¯¯¯¯¯| 5_ Beatroc Beatrix of Malcom (Princess of Scotland) x 980-1013
| \
| ¯¯¯¯¯| 11_ ? ?
|--1_ Maelmare Of (Mormaer of Atholl) SCOTLAND 1038-1128
|3_ Sibyl (Daughter Of) SIWARD 1014-1040
Page: Shows possible blood line
- Title: "Burke's Peerage"
Page: NAME,FATHER: "Burke's Peerage" 104th ed. pg xxxi.
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