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John de Grey K.G. 2nd Baron Grey de Rotherfield
- Preferred Name: John de Grey K.G. 2nd Baron Grey de Rotherfield[1] [2] [3] [4] [5] [6] [7] [8] [9] [10] [11] [12] [13] [14] [15]
- Gender: M
- http://familysearch.org/v1/TitleOfNobility: Baron1311 in Stanton Harcourt, Oxfordshire, England at LATI: N1.7498 LONG: E1.4037
- FSID: L5GH-VP7
- Birth: 9 OCT 1300 in Henley-on-Thames, Oxfordshire, England at LATI: N1.536 LONG: E0.9041
- Burial: 1359 in St Nicholas Churchyard, Rotherfield Greys, Oxfordshire, England at LATI: N1.5354 LONG: E0.9518 with note: Find a Grave memorial #105469472
- Death: 1 SEP 1359 in Rotherfield Greys, Oxfordshire, England at LATI: N1.5354 LONG: E0.9518
- Christening: 1 NOV 1300 in Rotherfield Greys, Oxfordshire, England at LATI: N1.5354 LONG: E0.9518
- Notes:
=== Life Sketch ===
About Sir John de Grey, Jr., 2nd Baron Grey of Rotherfield
In 1300 a lavish banquet was held to celebrate the birth and baptism (at Rotherfield Greys) of John de Grey, 'which feast is still notorious in these parts because abbots, priors and almost all other good men of those parts were present'. 374. Cal. Inq. p.m. VI, pp. 204–5.
https://www.british-history.ac.uk/vch/oxon/vol16/pp266-302#anchorn374
Knight of the Garter. Received livery of his lands in the fifteenth year of the reign of Edward II. In 1336 he was fighting for the King in Scotland; in 1342 he took part in the expedition to Flanders. He was in France in 1343, 1345-6, 1348 and again in 1356. He took part in the Battle of Crecy in 1346 with Edward III and his son Edward, the Black Prince, and it was after his return (after the fall of Calais in 1347) that he was given licence to crenellate Rotherfield. In the 6th of the reign of Edward III, upon some differences between his lordship and William la Zouche of Haryngworth, another great baron, which was heard before the King, Lord Grey, under the irritation of the moment, drew his knife upon Lord Zouche in the royal presence, whereupon both lords were committed to prison; but the Lord Zouche was soon afterwards released, while Lord Grey was remanded and his lands seized upon by the crown. He was, however, within a short time, upon making submission, restored to favour. In 1353 he was commissioner of array for the counties of Oxfordshire and Buckinghamshire, and in 1356 was one of the witnesses to the charters by which Edward Baliol granted all his rights in Scotland to Edward III. He was steward of the king's household and had summons to parliament from the 1st to the 29th Edward III, inclusive. Was one of the Original Knights of the Garter instituted at its foundation in 1344 and confirmed in 1348, where he occupied the eighth stall on the sovereign's side at Windsor Castle. [Burke's Peerage, Ltd., London, England, 1883, p. 247, Grey, Barons Grey, of Rotherfield, co. Oxford]
src: tudorplace.com.ar/Grey1.htm
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Summoned to 1338 Parliament
Knight of the Garter - 1348
John Gray/de Gray in 1348 was the founder of the Order of the garter
John was married 1st to Katherine Fitz Alan who died before 7,Aug,1328.
He was married 2nd to Avice Marmion, dughter of Sir Hohn marmion and maud de furnival,dau of Thomas de Furnival and Joan le Despenser,daughter of Hugh le Despenser.
John Grey/de Grey had an argument with William la Zouche Mortimer,1st Lord Zoucje in January 1331/1332 and he drew his knife in the presence of the King. He was commandered to prison and was pardoned on 27 March 1332.
He was summoned to Parliment from 15 November 1338 to 15 December 1357.
He died 1 September 1359.
Pedigreees of Some of Emperor Charlemage's Descendants page 255
http://www.tudorplace.com.ar/GREY1.htm#John De GREY (2° B. Grey of Rotherfield)
John De GREY (2° B. Grey of Rotherfield)
Born: 9 Oct 1300, Rotherfield, Oxfordshire, England
Christened: 1 Nov 1300, Rotherfield, Oxfordshire, England
Died: 1 Sep 1359, Rotherfield, Oxfordshire, England
Notes: Knight of the Garter. Received livery of his lands in the fifteenth year of the reign of Edward II. In 1336 he was fighting for the King in Scotland; in 1342 he took part in the expedition to Flanders. He was in France in 1343, 1345-6, 1348 and again in 1356. He took part in the Battle of Crecy in 1346 with Edward III and his son Edward, the Black Prince, and it was after his return (after the fall of Calais in 1347) that he was given licence to crenellate Rotherfield. In the 6th of the reign of Edward III, upon some differences between his lordship and William la Zouche of Haryngworth, another great baron, which was heard before the King, Lord Grey, under the irritation of the moment, drew his knife upon Lord Zouche in the royal presence, whereupon both lords were committed to prison; but the Lord Zouche was soon afterwards released, while Lord Grey was remanded and his lands seized upon by the crown. He was, however, within a short time, upon making submission, restored to favour. In 1353 he was commissioner of array for the counties of Oxfordshire and Buckinghamshire, and in 1356 was one of the witnesses to the charters by which Edward Baliol granted all his rights in Scotland to Edward III. He was steward of the king's household and had summons to parliament from the 1st to the 29th Edward III, inclusive. Was one of the Original Knights of the Garter instituted at its foundation in 1344 and confirmed in 1348, where he occupied the eighth stall on the sovereign's side at Windsor Castle. [Burke's Peerage, Ltd., London, England, 1883, p. 247, Grey, Barons Grey, of Rotherfield, co. Oxford]
Father: John De GREY (1° B. Grey of Rotherfield)
Mother: Margaret De ODDINGESELLS
Married 1: Catherine FITZBRIAN (Dau. of Brian Fitzalan, B. Bedale and Agnes Baliol) BEF 27 Dec 1317, Rotherfield, Oxfordshire, England
Children:
1. John De GREY (3° B. Grey of Rotherfield)
2. Maud De GREY
Married 2: Avice MARMION (b. ABT 1302/9 - d. AFT 20 Mar 1378) (dau. of John De Marmion and Maud Furnival) ABT 1342
Children:
3. Joan De GREY
4. Robert De GREY (Sir Knight)
5. John De GREY (B. Marmion)
http://our-royal-titled-noble-and-commoner-ancestors.com/p431.htm#i...
Sir John de Grey, 1st Lord Grey of Rotherfield1,2
M, b. 9 October 1300, d. 1 September 1359
Father Sir John de Grey3 b. c 1272, d. 17 Oct 1311
Mother Margaret de Odingsells3 b. c 1277, d. c 1330
Sir John de Grey, 1st Lord Grey of Rotherfield was born on 9 October 1300 at Rotherfield, Oxfordshire, England. He married Katherine FitzAlan, daughter of Sir Bryan FitzAlan, Baron Bedale and Maud (Agnes), before 1 March 1312; They had 1 son, John.2 Sir John de Grey, 1st Lord Grey of Rotherfield married Avice Marmion, daughter of Sir John de Marmion 2nd Baron Marmion and Maud Furnival, before 1343; They had 2 sons (John Marmion & Robert de Grey) and 1 daughter (Maud).4,2 Sir John de Grey, 1st Lord Grey of Rotherfield died on 1 September 1359 at Rotherfield, Oxfordshire, England, at age 58.2
Family 1 Avice Marmion d. a 20 Mar 1379
Children ◦Sir Robert de Grey+5,2 d. 19 Aug 1367
◦Maud Grey+6,2 d. 29 Jan 1394
Family 2 Katherine FitzAlan b. c 1300, d. b 7 Aug 1328
Children
◦Joane Grey+
◦Sir John de Grey, 2nd Lord Grey of Rotherfield+2 b. bt 1319 - 1329, d. 4 Jun 1375
Citations
1.[S3660] Unknown author, The Complete Peerage, by Cokayne, Vol. V, p. 397/8, Vol. VI, p. 145-147; Magna Charta Sureties, 1215, by F. L. Weis, 4th Ed., p. 60; The Ancestry of Dorothea Poyntz, by Ronny O. Bodine, p. 57.
2.[S5] Douglas Richardson, Plantagenet Ancestry, p. 554-555.
3.[S5] Douglas Richardson, Plantagenet Ancestry, p. 553-555.
4.[S5] Douglas Richardson, Plantagenet Ancestry, p. 493-494.
5.[S5] Douglas Richardson, Plantagenet Ancestry, p. 324.
6.[S5] Douglas Richardson, Plantagenet Ancestry, p. 376.
John de Grey, 1st Baron Grey de Rotherfield, KG (29 October 1300[1] - September 1359 He was an English soldier and courtier. John Grey of Rotherfield was one of the founder members of the Most Noble Order of the Garter. He is often confused with John Grey of Codnor, who bore the same coat of arms (Barry argent and azure). By December 1349, John was Lord Steward of the Royal Household of King Edward III. He distinguished himself well in the Scotch and French wars. He was summoned to parliament many times from 1338 to 1357, and is thus regarded as having become Lord Grey of Rotherfield. John was the son and heir of Sir John Grey, by Margaret only daughter and coheir of William de Odingbells. He married firstly, shortly before 1313, Katherine Fitzalan, daughter and coheir of Bryan FitzAlan, Lord FitzAlan of Bedale, Yorkshire. He married secondly Avice, daughter of John, 2nd Lord Marmion.
Sir John de Grey, First Lord Grey of Rotherfield
John de Grey, Knight of the Garter, 1st Lord Grey of Rotherfield was a Founder Knight of the Order of the Garter in 1348. John Grey had an argument with William la Zouche Mortimer, 1st Lord Zouche in January 1331/32 and he drew his knife in the presence of the King. He was committed to prison and was pardoned on March 27, 1332. John was summoned to Parliament from November 15, 1338 to December 15, 1357.
John married first to before 1311/12 to Katherine, daughter and heir of Sir Bryan Fitz Alan. They had one son, John de Grey, 2nd Lord Grey of Rotherfield. Katherine died before August 7, 1328. John married secondly before 1343 to Avice Marmion, daughter of Sir John Marmion, 2nd Lord Marmion.
John and Avice had the following children:
John Marmion, Knight, died in 1387
Robert de Grey, Knight, of Wilcote, Oxfordshire who married Lora de Saint Quintin.
Maud Grey
John de Grey, 1st Baron Grey de Rotherfield From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
1st Lord Grey of Rotherfield, Steward of the King's Household. In 1348, John was a Founder Knight of the Order of the Garter.
1st Lord Grey of Rotherfield. Knight of the Garter, of Rotherfield, Cogges, Hardwick in Yelford and Somerton, Oxfordshire. of Shabbington, Buckinghamshire, of Duston, Northamptonshire, of Olton in Solihull, Warwickshire, of Kettlewell, Sculcoates and Upton in Badworth, Yorkshire. Steward of the King's Household.
Son and heir to Sir John Grey and Margaret Oddingseles.
Grandson of Sir Robert de Grey and Joan Valoines, William de Oddingseles and Ela FitzWalter.
Husband of Katherine FitzAlan, daughter of Brian FitzAlan, Guardian of Scotland and his second wife, Maud. They were married before 01 March 1312, and father of John. Katherine died 07 August 1328, buried at Black Friars, York.
Secondly, husband of Avice Marmion, daughter of Sir John Marmion and Maud de Furnival, Lord Furnival. They married before 1343 and had two sons and one daughter; Sir John. Sir Robert and Maud.
Sir John fought in Scotland in 1327 and 1335, then in France 1342 to 1346. John had a quarrel with Sir William la Zouche
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=== Sources from Family History Library Archive submission: ===
Order of the Gorter Beltz pg 59;
Pedigrees of English Peers - Edmonson Chart 1t; Peerage G 5 C V 6 pg 147n 146;
Nicholas's Historic Peerage 314;
Burke's Dormant Peerage pg 356.
(These appear to be old Family History Library call numbers. These sources need to be reviewed and detailed.)
=== Wikipedia - John de Grey, 2nd Baron de Grey of Rothersfield ===
John de Grey, 2nd Baron Grey de Rotherfield
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John de Grey
Baron Grey de Rotherfield
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John de Grey, 2nd Baron Grey, KG, depicted in the Bruges Garter Book
Born 9 October 1300
Rotherfield, Oxfordshire, England
Died 1 September 1359 (aged 58)
Rotherfield, Oxfordshire, England
Spouse(s) Katherine FitzAlan
Avice Marmion
Issue
Sir John de Grey, 3rd Baron Grey of Rotherfield
Sir Robert de Grey
Maud Grey
Sir John Marmion
Father Sir John de Grey
Mother Margaret de Odingsells
Arms of Sir John de Grey, KG
John de Grey, 2nd Baron Grey de Rotherfield, KG (9 October 1300[1] – September 1359[1]) was an English soldier and courtier. John was the son and heir of Sir John de Grey, 1st Baron Grey de Rotherfield,[2] by Margaret who was daughter William de Odingsells and the granddaughter of Ida II Longespee.[3]
John de Grey of Rotherfield was a founding member of the Most Noble Order of the Garter.[4] He is often confused with John Grey of Codnor, who bore the same coat of arms (Barry argent and azure).
By December 1349,[1] John was Lord Steward of the Royal Household of King Edward III. He distinguished himself well in the Scotch and French wars. He was summoned to parliament often from 1338 to 1357, and is regarded as having become Baron Grey of Rotherfield.[1]
Note: Some sources describe him as 1st Baron Grey of Rotherfield, and some as the 2nd Baron Grey, numbering his father John de Grey as 1st Baron Grey (but not of Rotherfield); this can be confusing.
Family
He married firstly, shortly before 1313,[1] Katherine Fitzalan, daughter and coheir of Bryan FitzAlan, Lord FitzAlan of Bedale, Yorkshire and had a single son and heir:
Sir John de Grey, 3rd Baron Grey de Rotherfield.[2] He married maud de Burghersh, daughter of Sir Bartholomew Burghersh the elder, 1st Baron Burghersh.
He married secondly Avice, daughter of John Marmion, Baron of Winteringham, a descendant of John of England.[1][5] by whom he had the following issue:
John de Grey aka Marmion, (d.s.p. 1385)[5] m. Elizabeth St. Quintin (b.1341)[6]
Sir Robert de Grey aka Marmion, m. Lora St. Quintin (b.1343);[6] their daughter Elizabeth m. Henry FitzHugh, 3rd Baron FitzHugh[5]
=== TITLE: 2nd Baron of ROTHERFIELD
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TITLE: 2nd Baron of ROTHERFIELD
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Sir John de Grey, 2nd Baron Grey, one of the 25 chosen by Edward III to assist in founding the Most Noble Order ofthe Garter. He was born 1300, and in 15th of Edward II, 1322, making proof of his age, had livery of his lands; and in the 1st of Edward III, 1326, was in the wars of Scotland. In 6th of the same reign, upon some difference between his lordship and William le Zouch of Harringworth, another great baron, which was heard before the King, Lord Grey, under the irritation of the moment, drew a knife upon Lord Zouche in the royal presence, where-upon both lords were committedto prison; but Lord Zouche was soon released, while Lord Grey was remanded, and his lands seized upon by the crown. He was, however, within a short time, upon making submission, restored to favour; and in three years afterwards we find his lordship in Scotland, upon the King's service, being in the retinue of Henry, Earl of Lancaster. From this period for several years he was engaged in the French wars, and in 20th of Edward III he obtained license to improve his houses at Rotherfield, County Oxford, and Sculcotes, County York, with embattled walls of lime and stone. The next year, there being a tournament held at Etham, inKent, amongst other accourtments prepared for that military exercise, his lordship had a hood of white cloth, embroidered with dancing men, in blue habits, buttoned before with pearls, very large, presented to him by the King. In 26th of Edward III, 1352, he was one of the commissioners in the Counties of Oxford and Berks, for arranging and arraying and arming all men of ability within thoseshires, and leading them against the King's enemies, invasion by the French being threatened at that time. In the next year he was steward of the King's household, and had a summons to Parliament from 1326 to 1359, inclusive. His lordship, in his minority, was not in possession of his lands, and they were granted to various persons by the crown, and an inspection of Hardwick and Rotherfield was ordered as far back as 1317, to safeguard his interests. When he was summoned to Parliament, by writ directed to Johanni de Crey, whereby he became Lord Grey. He married 1st Katherine, daughter of Bryan FitzAlan, and had a son John, his successor, and a daughter Maud. He married 2nd Avice, sister and co-heir ofRobert, Lord Marmion, son and daughter of John, Lord Marmion. Robert Marmion died sine prole; being of infirm constitution, he was never summoned to Parliament. He arranged for the marriage of his younger sister Avice to Sir John Grey, upon condition that the issue of Sir John and Avice should bear the name of Marmion. At her brother's death the barony of Marmion of Witrington fell into abeyance between the two sisters, but Joan, the elder sister, married Lord Bernack,and died without issue.
=== John de Grey, second Baron Grey of Rothe ===
John de Grey, second Baron Grey of Rotherfield (1300-1359), soldier, was a descendant of Robert de Grey, brother of Richard de Grey (fl 1250), and John de Grey (c 1266). His father, John de Grey (1271-1312), was summoned to parliament as first Baron Grey of Rotherfield 26 Jun 1297, and was employed during the war in Scotland in 1299 and 1306. He died in 1312 having married Margaret, daughter of William de Odingsells of Maxstoke, Warwickshire. His son John made proof of his age and received livery of his lands in the fifteenth year of Edward II. In 1327 he was employed in the Scottish war. In January 1332, having quarrelled with William le Zouche in the royal presence, he was imprisoned and his lands seized by the crown, but shortly after made his submission, and was restored to favour. Grey was constantly emplyed in the wars of Edward II's reign; in 1336 he was in Scotland; in 1342 he took part in the expedition to Flanders, and was there again five years later; he was in France in 1343, 1345-6, 1348, and 1356. In 1347 he received a license to crenellate Rotherfield and Sculcotes. He was one of the justices appointed to try William Thorpe, the chief justice, for taking bribes in 1350, when he is styled 'steward (or seneschal) of our household,' an office which he still held four years later. In 1353 he was commissioner of army for the counties of Oxford and Buckingham, and in 1356 he was commissioner of array for the counties of Oxford and Buckingham, and in 1356 was one of the witnesses to the charters by which Edward Baliol granted all his rights in Scotland to Edward III. Grey, who was summoned to parliament from 1326 to 1356, was one of the original knights of the Garter instituted at its foundation on 23 April 1344, when he occupied the eighth stall on the sovereign's side. He died on 1 Sept 1359, having married, first, Katherine, daughter of Bryan FitzAlan of Bedale, Yorkshire, by whom he had a son John, third baron (d 1375); and secondly, to Avice, daugher and coheiress of John de Marmion, second baron de Marmion, by whom he had two sons, John and Robert, who took their mother's name. [Dictionary of National Biography VIII:635]
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John de Grey, 2nd Baron Grey of Rotherfield, one of the founders of the Order of the Garter, b. 1300, who in the 15th Edward II, making proof his age, had livery of his lands; and in the 1st Edward III, was in the wars of Scotland. In the 6th of the same reign, upon some differences between his lordship and William le Zouch, of Haryngworth, another great baron, which was heard before the king, Lord Grey, under the irritation of the moment, drew his knife upon Lord Zouch in the royal presence, whereupon both lords were committed to prison; but the Lord Zouch was soon afterwards released, while Lord Grey was remanded and his lands seized upon by the crown. He was, however, within a short time, upon making submission, restored to favour; and in three years afterwards we find his lordship in Scotland upon the king's service, being of the retinue with Henry, Earl of Lancaster. From this period for several years, he was engaged in the French wars, and in the 20th of Edward's reign, he obtained license to fortify his houses at Rotherfield Grey, co. Oxford, and Sculcotes, co. York, with embattled walls of lime and stone. The next year there being a tournament held at Eltham, in Kent, amongst other accoutrements prepared for that military exercise, his lordship had a hood of white cloth embroidered with dancing men in blue habits, buttoned before with large pearls presented to him by the king. In the 26th Edward III, he was one of the commissioners in the cos. Oxford and Berks for arraying and arming all men of ability within those shires and leading them against the king's enemies, invasion at that time threatened by the French. In the next year he was steward of the king's household and had summons to parliament from the 1st to the 29th Edward III, inclusive. His lordship m. 1st, Katherine, dau. and co-heiress of Bryan Fitz-Alan, of Bedall, co. York, and had issue, John, his successor, and Maud, m. 1st to John de Botetourt, of Weoley, and 2ndly, to Thomas de Harcourt. He m. 2ndly, Avice, dau. and co-heir of John, Lord Marmion, and had two sons, John and Robert, who both assumed their mother's name of Marmion. [Sir Bernard Burke, Dormant, Abeyant, Forfeited and Extinct Peerages, Burke's Peerage, Ltd., London, England, 1883, p. 247, Grey, Barons Grey, of Rotherfield, co. Oxford]
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Sir John de Grey, KG, of Rotherfield, b. 9 Oct 1300, d. 1 Sep 1359, 1st Lord Grey of Rotherfield, KG 23 Apr 1349; m. (1) by 1 Mar 1311/2, Catharine, daughter and heir of Sir Bryan fitz Alan; m. (2) Avice, daughter of Sir John Marmion, Lord Marmion. [Magna Charta Sureties]
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BARONY OF GREY OF ROTHERFIELD (I)
SIR JOHN DE GREY, son and heir, was born at Rotherfield, 9 October, and baptized 1 November 1300 in the church there. During minority his lands were granted to various persons by the Crown, and an inspection of Hardwick and Rotherfield was ordered, 28 September 1317, to safegmacrd the interests of the heir. He was summoned for Military Service from 25 March 1322 to 4 December 1341; to Councils 14 September 1340, 12 June 1341, 25 February 1341/2, and 20 November 1342; and to Parliment from 15 November 1338 to 1 December 1357, by writs directed Johanni de Grey de Rotherfeld, whereby he is held to have become LORD GREY of Rotherfield. He had letters of protection, 18 July 1322, on going with the King to Scotland, and on 5 September 1325 on going with the King beyond seas. On 1 September 1330 he had a grant of free warren in his demense lands in Bucks, Berks, and cos. Oxford, Northampton and York. On 16 March 1331/2 Sir Geoffrey le Scropc, who made the King's speech, declared that Mons. John de Grey of Rotherfield and Mons. William de la Zouche of Ashby, then at variance, were commanded to do no violence, but nevertheless hot words passed between them in the presence of the King and his Council, and Grey put his hand to his knife and partly drew it. Both had been sent to prison, and Zouche had been released on bail till this parliament. Grey had been given into the custody of William de Clinton, and was present in that custody. The King asked advice of the Lords in respect of such an excess in his presence, and the Lords returned that they thought Zouche not guilty, and that Grey should be imprisoned during the King's pleasure, but begged the King's mercy for him. He appears to have been pardoned not long after. On 19 August 1337 he had licence to alienate in mortmain to the Friars Minors of Oxford a plot of land. On 20 January 1341/2 he was urgently summoned to London to treat with the Council for what he and his men should receive for their stay at Berwick-on-Tweed, the King desiring that he should have custody of that town. He was in the Crécy expedition in 1346 in the 2nd Division. On 10 December 1346 he had licence to crenellate his dwelling-places of Rotherfield and Sculcoates. He was made K.G. at the institution of that order,and was Steward of the Household, certainly from 1350 to 1356. On 20 May 1354. he had a grant of free warren in his demesne lands of Cornwell and Kingham (Oxford).
He married, 1stly, before 1 March 1311/2, Catherine, younger daughter and coheir of Sir Brian (FITZALAN), LORD FITZALAN, by his 2nd wife, Maud. He married 2ndly, Avice, daughter of John (MARMION), LORD MARMION, and sister and coheir of Robert, LORD MARMION. He died at Rotherfield, 1 September 1359. His widow, as one of his executors, had a protection, 25 September 1359, in consideration of his good services as Steward of the Household. Mention is made, 28 February 1362/3, of the service in West Tanfield Church according to the ordinance of Avice, late the wife of John de Grey of Rotherfi6ld. She was living 20 March 1378/9, having as dower the manors of Cogges and Hardwick and a moiety of the manor and advowson of Fringford (Oxford). [Complete Peerage VI:145-7, (tanscribed by Dave Utzinger)]
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John got a license to crenellate his manor in Rotherfield in 1347.
Preferred Parents:
Father: John de Grey 1st Baron Grey of Rotherfield, b. 1272 in Rotherfield Greys, Henley on Thames, Oxfordshire, England d. 17 OCT 1311 in Rotherfield Greys, Henley on Thames, Oxfordshire, England
Mother: Margaret Oddingseles, b. 1277 in Maxstoke Castle, Warwickshire, England d. AFT 21 APR 1330 in Rotherfield, Oxfordshire, England
Family 1: Avice Marmion, b. 1309 in West Tanfield, Yorkshire, England d. 23 JAN 1387 in Henley on Thames, Oxfordshire, England
- m. 1344 in Rotherfield Greys, Oxfordshire, England
- Maud Grey, b. 1345 in Rotherfield Greys, Oxfordshire, England d. 30 JAN 1392 in Stanton Harcourt, Oxfordshire, England, UK
Family 2: Katharine FitzAlan, b. 1300 in Bedale, Yorkshire, England d. 7 AUG 1328 in York, Yorkshire, England
- m. ABT 1327 in Rotherfield Greys, Oxfordshire, England
- m. BEF 27 DEC 1317
Family 3: Joan de Marmion, b. 1313 in West Tanfield, Yorkshire, England d. 2 OCT 1361 in Asby Folville, Melton Mowbray, Leicestershire, England
- Robert Grey, b. ABT 1340 in Ravensworth, Yorkshire, England d. 30 NOV 1367 in Brandesburton, Yorkshire, England
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[S:Titl] The Magna Charta Sureties 1215
[S:Auth] Frederick Lewis Weis, additions by Walter Lee Sheppard Jr
[S:Publ] 5th Edition, 1999
[Page] 50-5
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Page: Ancestry
- Title: Extinct Barons Grey in Burke's Peerage
Author: "Grey--Barons Grey, of Rotherfield, Co. Oxford" & "Grey--Barons Grey, of Codnor, Co. Derby" in Sir Bernard Burke's 1866 "A Genealogical History of the Dormant, Abeyant, Forfeited, and Extinct Peerages of the British Empire."
Publication: Name: http://interactive.ancestry.com/48558/ExtinctPeerages-001048-255/?backlabel=ReturnBrowsing&dbid=48558&iid=ExtinctPeerages-001048-255&rc=937,1439,991,1457&pid=399593&ssrc=&fn=&ln=Grey&st=g#?imageId=ExtinctPeerages-001040-247;
Note: Page 247 of the text (p. 258 as digitized by Ancestry.com).
- Title: Legacy NFS Source: Sir John Gray 2nd of Broxmouth -
Author: The Scottish Nation; or the Surnames, Families, Literature, Honours, and Biographical History of the People of Scotland;, Page number: II:371
Page: Migrated from user-supplied source citation: urn:familysearch:source:2736742557
- Title: "Complete Peerage of England, Scotland, Ireland, Great Britain and the United Kingdom, Extant, Extinct, Or Dorman," Volume 5, by George Edward Cokayne
Author: Published by G. Bell & sons, 1893...subnote page 259 a)
Publication: Name: https://books.google.com/books?id=wrIKAAAAYAAJ&dq=Complete+Peerage&q=west+tanfield#v=snippet&q=john%20de%20grey%20%2B%20rotherfield&f=false;
- Title: John GREY, 2nd Baron Grey of Rotherfield (1300-1359) - Dictionary of National Biography
Author: Dictionary of National Biography, 1885-1900 by Charles Lethbridge Kingsford Volume 23
Publication: Name: https://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Grey,_John_de_(1300-1359)_(DNB00);
Note: GREY, JOHN de, second Baron Grey of Rotherfield (1300-1359), soldier, was a descendant of Robert de Grey, brother of Richard de Grey (fl. 1250) [q. v.], and John de Grey (d. 1266) [q. v.] His father, John de Grey (1271-1312), was summoned to parliament as first Baron Grey of Rotherfield 26 Jan. 1297, and 'was employed during the war in Scotland in 1299 and 1306 (Cal. Doc. Scot. ii. 1819). He died in 1312, having married Margaret, daughter of William de Odingsells of Maxstoke, Warwickshire. His son John made proof of his age and received livery of his lands in the fifteenth year of Edward II. In 1327 he was employed in the Scottish war. In January 1332, having quarrelled with William le Zouche in the royal presence, he was imprisoned and his lands seized by the crown, but shortly after made his submission, and was restored to favour (Annales Paulini, in Chronicles of Edward I and II, Rolls Ser., i. 335). Grey was constantly employed in the wars of Edward III's reign; in 1336 he was in Scotland; in 1342 he took part in the expedition to Flanders, and was there again five years later; he was in France in 1343, 1345-6, 1348, and 1356. In 1347 he received a license to crenellate Rotherfield and Sculcotes. He was one of the justices appointed to try William Thorpe [q. v.], the chief justice, for taking bribes in 1350, when he is styled 'steward (or seneschal) of our household' (Fœdera, iii. 208), an office which he still held four years later. In 1353 he was commissioner of array for the counties of Oxford and Buckingham, and in 1356 was one of the witnesses to the charters by which Edward Baliol granted all his rights in Scotland to Edward III (ib. iii. 317–22, dated Roxburgh, 20 Jan. 1356). Grey, who was summoned to parliament from 1326 to 1356, was one of the original knights of the Garter instituted at its foundation on 23 April 1344, when he occupied the eighth stall on the sovereign's side. He died on 1 Sept. 1359, having married, first, Katherine, daughter of Bryan Fitz-Alan of Bedale, Yorkshire, by whom he had a son John, third baron (d. 1375); and, secondly, to Avice, daughter and coheiress of John de Marmion, second baron de Marmion, by whom he had two sons, John and Robert, who took their mother's name.
[Rymer's Fœdera, ed. 1830; Beltz's Memorials of the Order of the Garter, pp. 57-9; Dugdale's Baronage, i. 723; Burke's Dormant and Extinct Peerages, p. 247.]
Page: Biography of John de Grey 2nd Baron Grey de Rotherfield
- Title: Lineage of Barons Grey of Rotherfield and Codnor in Burkes Extinct and Dormant Baronetcies
Publication: Name: https://www.familysearch.org/photos/artifacts/55165740;
Page: Record of John de Grey 2nd Baron Grey de Rotherfield
- Title: Wikipedia -John de Grey, 2nd Baron Grey de Rotherfield
Publication: Name: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_de_Grey,_2nd_Baron_Grey_de_Rotherfield;
- Title: Legacy NFS Source: Sir John Gray 2nd of Broxmouth -
Author: Burke's Peerage & Baronetage, 106th Edition, Charles Mosley {1999}, Page number: 1210
Note: Source Media Type: Book
Page: Migrated from user-supplied source citation: urn:familysearch:source:2736742367
- Title: Our royal, titled, noble and commoner ancestors
Author: Citations [S3660] Unknown author, The Complete Peerage, by Cokayne, Vol. V, p. 397/8, Vol. VI, p. 145-147; Magna Charta Sureties, 1215, by F. L. Weis, 4th Ed., p. 60; The Ancestry of Dorothea Poyntz, by Ronny O. Bodine, p. 57. [S5] Douglas Richardson, Plantagenet Ancestry, p. 554-555. [S16] Douglas Richardson, Magna Carta Ancestry, 2nd Edition, Vol. I, p. 269. [S16] Douglas Richardson, Magna Carta Ancestry, 2nd Edition, Vol. II, p. 344. [S16] Douglas Richardson, Magna Carta Ancestry, 2nd Edition, Vol. III, p. 270-271. [S6] Douglas Richardson, Plantagenet Ancestry: 2nd Edition, Vol. I, p. 441-442. [S4] Douglas Richardson, Royal Ancestry, Vol. I, p. 459. [S4] Douglas Richardson, Royal Ancestry, Vol. II, p. 37-38. [S4] Douglas Richardson, Royal Ancestry, Vol. III, p. 208. [S4] Douglas Richardson, Royal Ancestry, Vol. IV, p. 33. [S4] Douglas Richardson, Royal Ancestry, Vol. IV, p. 273-274. [S5] Douglas Richardson, Plantagenet Ancestry, p. 553-555. [S16] Douglas Richardson, Magna Carta Ance
Publication: Name: https://our-royal-titled-noble-and-commoner-ancestors.com/p431.htm#i12940;
Note: Sir John de Grey, 1st Lord Grey of Rotherfield, Steward of the King's Household1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11
Last Edited 4 Apr 2020
M, #12940, b. 9 October 1300, d. 1 September 1359
Father Sir John de Grey12,13,14 b. c 1272, d. 17 Oct 1311
Mother Margaret de Odingsells12,13,14 b. c 1277, d. a 21 Apr 1330
Sir John de Grey, 1st Lord Grey of Rotherfield, Steward of the King's Household was born on 9 October 1300 at Rotherfield, Oxfordshire, England.5,11 He married Katherine FitzAlan, daughter of Sir Bryan FitzAlan, Baron Bedale, Guardian & Keeper of Scotland and Maud, before 1 March 1312; They had 1 son ( Sir John, 2nd Lord Grey of Rotherfield).2,5,11 Sir John de Grey, 1st Lord Grey of Rotherfield, Steward of the King's Household married Avice Marmion, daughter of Sir John de Marmion, 2nd Lord Marmion and Maud de Furnival, before 1340; They had 2 sons (Sir John Marmion; & Sir Robert de Grey) and 1 daughter (Maud, wife of John Botetourt, & of Sir Thomas Harcourt).15,2,3,4,5,7,9,10,11 Sir John de Grey, 1st Lord Grey of Rotherfield, Steward of the King's Household died on 1 September 1359 at Rotherfield, Oxfordshire, England, at age 58.2,5,11
Family 1
Katherine FitzAlan b. c 1300, d. b 7 Aug 1328
Children
Joane Grey+
Sir John de Grey, 2nd Lord Grey of Rotherfield+2,5,11 b. bt 1319 - 1329, d. 4 Jun 1375
Family 2
Avice Marmion d. a 20 Mar 1379
Children
Sir Robert de Grey+16,2,5,17 d. 19 Aug 1367
Maud Grey+18,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,11 d. 29 Jan 1394
Sir John Marmion5,11 b. c 1335, d. 1387
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