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William de St. John
- Preferred Name: William de St. John[1] [2] [3]
- Gender: M
- Charter by William de St John, his wife Godeheld & brother Robert: 1187 with note: Description: Confirming to Lessay the gifts of his father Roger de St John and his grandfather Robert de Haye
- Did homage to the abbott of Mont St Michel for lands held of the Abbey: 1154 with note: Complete Peerage XI;343-4
- Confirmation by William de St John of the grant by his father, Roger de St John, of the church of Co: ABT 1175 with note: http://fmg.ac/phocadownload/userupload/scanned-sources/tgb/Vol16-PDFs/S-3919.pdf
- Accompanied Richard I to England for his coronation: 1189 with note: Complete Peerage XI;343-4
- Birth: ABT 1126 in of Halnaker, Sussex, England at LATI: N0.8651 LONG: E0.7119
- Death: BEF 29 SEP 1202 in Halnaker, Sussex, England at LATI: N0.8658 LONG: E0.71
- FSID: LBTW-5Z9
- William de St John, his wife Olive, and brother Robert endowed the Abbey of Luzerne from their estat: 1162 with note: http://fmg.ac/phocadownload/userupload/scanned-sources/tgb/Vol16-PDFs/S-3919.pdf
- Grant by William de St John and Robert his brother of the manor of Compton to their mother Cecily: ABT 1165 with note: http://fmg.ac/phocadownload/userupload/scanned-sources/tgb/Vol16-PDFs/S-3919.pdf
- Notes:
=== Life Sketch ===
William St John
s/o Robert St John & Cecily de la Haye
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m- Godeheldis
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Jan 1188 - Notification - WILLIAM St John & Robert St John his brother & Godeldis wife of said WILLIAM - granted to the Monks of Boxgrave - whatever had been given them by their Grandfather Robert Haia, & their father Robert St Jogn, namely the churches of st Mary of Boxgrave & St Peter of Hantonet & St Ledger...
“Royal Ancestry: A Study in Colonial & Medieval Families,” Douglas Richardson (2013):
“HENRI DE FOUGÈRES, seigneur of Fougères (in Brittany), 3rd son. He married OLIVE OF BRITTANY, daughter of Stephen (or Étienne), Count of Brittany, lord of Richmond, by his wife, Hawise [see RICHMOND 4 for her ancestry]. Her maritagium included the manor of Long Bennington, Lincolnshire. They had four sons, Raoul [II], Fransgalon, Guillaume, and Robert, and one daughter, Clemence (wife of Robert de Montfort). By his wife or an unknown mistress, he also had one son, Guillaume l'Angevin. He was heir in 1124 to his older brother, Fransgalon de Fougères, seigneur of Fougères. In the summer of 1150 HENRI DE FOUGÈRES, then a dying man, he became a monk at Savigny Abbey. His widow, Olive, married (2nd) before 1162 WILLIAM DE SAINT JOHN, of Halnaker, Sussex, son and heir of Roger de Saint John, of Halnaker, Sussex, by Cecily, daughter of Robert de la Haie. They had no issue. He farmed the vicomte of Coutances for over 40 years. In 1162 he and his wife, Olive, and his brother, Robert, executed a charter for the abbey of La Luzerne. He was in frequent attendance on the king in Normandy between 1166 and 1172. In 1170 he was one of the tutors for Young King Henry. In 1172 the abbot and convent of Le Mont-Saint-Michel granted him the forestership of Bevais Forest. His wife, Olive, was living in 1174. In 1174-5 he confirmed his father's grant to Lewes Priory. He married (2nd) before 1187 GODEHEUT ___. In 1189 he accompanied King Richard I to England for his coronation. WILLIAM DE SAINT JOHN died between Michaelmas 1201 and Michaelmas 1202.
Morice Histoire Ecclesiastique et Civil de Bretagne 1 (1750): xvii-xviii (Counts of Penthievre ped). C.P. 10 (1945): 780 (chart), 786-787 (sub Richmond); 11 (1949): 343-344 (sub Saint John). Keats-Rohan Domesday Descendants (2002): 244, 461-462, 691. Power Norman Frontier in the Twelfth and Early Thirteenth Cents. (2004): 499 (Fougères ped.).”
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WILLIAM DE ST. JOHN, 1st son and heir, succeeded to his father's lands in England and Normandy. He held his court at Halnaker. On the accession of Robert de Torigny to the abbacy of Le Mont-St-Michel in 1154, he did homage to him for the lands which he held of the abbey. In 1162 together with his wife Olive and his brother Robert he executed a charter for the abbey of La Luzerne, and in 1170 he was one of the tutors of the young King Henry. In 1172 the abbot and convent of Le Mont-St-Michel granted him the forestership of their forest of Bévais as held by his predecessors. At a date not later than 1174 he was on a jury to ascertain the rights of the King in Normandy. In 1174-75 he confirmed his father's grant of the church of Compton to Lewes Priory, stipulating that thenceforth the monks should not present a clerk who would not reside. Royal charters show him in frequent attendance on the King in Normandy between 1166 and 1172; thereafter his recorded attendances are less frequent. He farmed the vicomti of Coutances for over 40 years. In 1187 with his 2nd wife Godeheut and his brother Robert he confirmed to Lessay the gifts of his father and his grandfather Robert de la Haie. In 1189 he accompanied Richard I to England for his Coronation.
=== !Ancestral Roots, Line 214A-25. ===
!Ancestral Roots, Line 214A-25.
=== SORLEY'S PEDIGREES (GS NUMBER Q929.242 S ===
SORLEY'S PEDIGREES (GS NUMBER Q929.242 SO68) P.14, 20, 22; THE PLANTAGENET ANCESTRY (GS NUMBER Q940 D2T) P.82, 188; ROYAL ANCESTORS OF MAGNA CHARTA BARONS, P.50;
=== !Name,parents-Visitation Bk Q area 942.2 ===
!Name,parents-Visitation Bk Q area 942.25 D2b pg 61 DD,Bap-SL Bap Rec Gs 183543 pg 1146 Name(Wm de Berkerolles),parents,DD(aft 1213),Bd(1192)Bpla(of Bassaleg,Monmouth,Eng),Spouse,Md,pla,SS,Sp(submitted PV)-Ancestral File Name,parents,Mdpla(Olive & Godeheld),Bap,End-TIB FHL 884572 SP(pre 1970)-IGI also states End as pre 1970 Bd also listed as 1126,1173,1192;Bpla as Staunton,Oxon;Basing, Hamp;DD as aft 1213
Family 1: Olive de Penthièvre, b. 1096 in Penthièvre, Morbihan, Bretagne, France d. BEF 1187
Sources:
- Title: The Genealogist "The Families of St John and of Port"
Publication: Name: http://fmg.ac/phocadownload/userupload/scanned-sources/tgb/Vol16-PDFs/S-3919.pdf;
- Title: Victorian History of County Sussex
- Title: British History Online
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