John de Ferrers

• Preferred Name: John de Ferrers^{[1] [2] [3] [4] [5] [6] [7] [8] [9] [10] [11] [12] [13]}
  
• Alternate Name: John de Ferrers
  
• Gender: M
  
• FSID: GJ8H-34T
  
• Death: 27 AUG 1312 in Gascony, France at LATI: N3.977 LONG: E0.176
  
• Birth: 20 JUN 1271 in Cardiff, Glamorgan, Wales at LATI: N1.4836 LONG: E3.1749 with note: Medieval Lands and Find A Grave.
  
• Notes:

  === Life Sketch ===
  John de Ferrers, 1st Baron Ferrers of Chartley (1271, Cardiff-1324, Gascony) was the son of Robert de Ferrers, 6th Earl of Derby and Alianore de Bohun, daughter of Humphrey de Bohun and Eleanor de Braose, and granddaughter of Humphrey de Bohun, 2nd Earl of Hereford.
  
  In 1264 John, without any true inheritance other than the turbulent spirit of his father, joined the Earl of Hertford and other rebellious barons in opposing the collection of subsidies granted by the parliament held at St Edmundsbury, to the crown.
  
  The ferment was allayed by the King's confirming Magna Carta and the charter of the forests; and by declaring that in future, no tax should be imposed upon the subject without the consent of Parliament, at the same time granting a pardon to the discontented lords and their adherents, in which pardon John de Ferrers is especially named.
  
  Soon after this he petitioned Pope Nicholas III, to interfere to procure him the lands of his late father which he had conferred upon Edmund, Earl of Lancaster, but his suit was ineffectual.
  
  In 1273, he was again involved in the wars against Scotland and subsequently in 1288 he was constituted Seneschal of Aquitaine by Edward II.
  
  John was subsequently involved the Scottish wars which led to his summoning to parliament as Baron Ferrers of Chartley, in the county of Stafford on 6 February 1299; Chartley came into the family of Ferrers by the marriage of William de Ferrers, 5th Earl of Derby, with Agnes, sister and co-heiress of Ranulf de Blondeville, 6th Earl of Chester.)
  
  «b»Family«/b»
  Sometime before 1300, Sir John married Hawise (Hawyse) de Muscegros. Hawise was born on 21 December 1276, a daughter of Robert de Muscegros. She was also a granddaughter of William Malet, and an heiress and niece of Cecilla de Muscegros, by whom he acquired a great increase in fortune. She died about June 1340.
  
  The couple had one son, Robert, who was born in 1309 in Staffordshire and inherited the title Baron Ferrers of Chartley upon his father's death.
  
  «b»Death«/b»
  He died in 1324 in Gascony, apparently as a result of poisoning, and was succeeded by his son Robert.
  
  BIO
  BIO: http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/ENGLISH%20NOBILITY%20MEDIEVAL1.htm#JohnFerrersdied1367A as of 6/18/2016
  
  JOHN Ferrers of Chartley, Staffordshire, son of ROBERT de Ferrers Earl of Derby & his sec
  
  === John de Ferrers, 1st Baron Ferrers of Ch ===
  John de Ferrers, 1st Baron Ferrers of Chartley (1271, Cardiff – c. 1324, Gascony) was the son of Robert de Ferrers, 6th Earl of Derby and Alianore de Bohun, daughter of Humphrey de Bohun and Eleanor de Braose, and granddaughter of Humphrey de Bohun, 2nd Earl of Hereford.
  
  Sometime before 1300, Sir John married Hawise de Muscegros. Hawise was born on 21 December 1276, a daughter of Robert de Muscegros. She died about June 1340. The couple had one son Robert who was born in 1309 in Staffordshire and became Robert de Ferrers, 2nd Baron Ferrers of Chartley upon his father's death.
  
  In 1264 John, without any true inheritance other than the turbulent spirit of his father, joined the Earl of Hertford and other rebellious Barons in opposing the collection of subsidies granted by the parliament then held at St Edmundsbury, to the crown.
  
  The ferment was allayed by the King's confirming Magna Carta, and their charter of the forests; and by declaring that in future, no tax should be imposed upon the subject without the consent of Parliament, at the same time granting a pardon to the discontented lords and their adherents, in which pardon John de Ferrers is especially named.
  
  Soon after this he petitioned Pope Nicholas III, to interfere to procure him the lands of his late father which he had conferred upon Edmund, Earl of Lancaster, but his suit was ineffectual.
  
  John was subsequently involved the Scottish wars which led to his summoning to parliament as Baron Ferrers of Chartley, in the county of Stafford on the 6th February 1299 (a seat which came into the family of Ferrers by the marriage of William, fifth Earl of Derby, with Agnes, sister and co-heir of Ranulph, Earl of Chester.)
  
  He married Hawyse, niece and heiress of Cecilla de Muscegros, by whom he acquired a great increase in fortune. In 1273, he was again involved in the wars against Scotland and subsequently in 1288 he was constituted Seneschal of Aquitaine by Edward II.
  
  He died in 1324 in Gascony, apparently as a result of poisoning, and was succeeded by his son Robert (later Robert de Ferrers, 2nd Baron Ferrers of Chartley).

• m. 1301 in Chartley, Staffordshire, England

1. Robert de Ferrers, b. 25 MAR 1309 in Chartley Castle, Staffordshire, England     d. 28 AUG 1350 in Willisham, Suffolk, England
2. Eleanor de Ferrers, b. AFT 1305 in Staffordshire, England     d. 17 SEP 1381 in Lathom St James, Lancashire, England

1. Title: Robert de Ferrers, Earl of Derby, in Cokayne's Complete Peerage, Vol. 3, pg. 67 [See document in the Memories section]
   Author: Cokayne's Complete Peerage, Vol. 3, pg. 67
   Note: Robert de Ferrers, Earl of Derby, in Cokayne's Complete Peerage, Vol. 3, pg. 67 [See document in the Memories section]
   Page: Robert de Ferrers, Earl of Derby, in Cokayne's Complete Peerage, Vol. 3, pg. 67 [See document in the Memories section]
   
2. Title: Robert de Ferrers, 8th Earl of Derby, in Burke's Dormant, Abeyant, Forfeited and Extinct Peerages, pg 197-198 [See document in the memories section]
   Author: Burke's Dormant, Abeyant, Forfeited and Extinct Peerages, pg 197-198
   Note: Robert de Ferrers, 8th Earl of Derby, in Burke's Dormant, Abeyant, Forfeited and Extinct Peerages, pg 197-198 [See document in the memories section]
   Page: Robert de Ferrers, 8th Earl of Derby, in Burke's Dormant, Abeyant, Forfeited and Extinct Peerages, pg 197-198 [See document in the memories section]
   
3. Title: Robert, Sir John, Sir Robert and Hawise de Mucegros (Musgrove) in British History Online ~https://www.british-history.ac.uk/ [See document in the memories section]
   Publication: Name: https://www.british-history.ac.uk/;
   Note: Robert, Sir John, Sir Robert and Hawise de Mucegros (Musgrove) in British History Online ~https://www.british-history.ac.uk/ [See document in the memories section]
   Page: Robert, Sir John, Sir Robert and Hawise de Mucegros (Musgrove) in British History Online ~https://www.british-history.ac.uk/ [See document in the memories section]
   
4. Title: John de Ferrers and his ancestors in British History Online ~www.british-history.ac.uk [See document in the Memories section]
   Publication: Name: http://www.british-history.ac.uk;
   Note: John de Ferrers and his ancestors in British History Online ~www.british-history.ac.uk [See document in the Memories section]
   Page: John de Ferrers and his ancestors in British History Online ~www.british-history.ac.uk [See document in the Memories section]
   
5. Title: Musegros (Musgrose) family members in A New History of Gloucestershire, pgs. 251, 288, 300, 389, 418, 495, and 507 [See document in the memories section]
   Author: A New History of Gloucestershire, pgs. 251, 288, 300, 389, 418, 495, and 507
   Note: Musegros (Musgrose) family members in A New History of Gloucestershire, pgs. 251, 288, 300, 389, 418, 495, and 507 [See document in the memories section]
   Page: Musegros (Musgrose) family members in A New History of Gloucestershire, pgs. 251, 288, 300, 389, 418, 495, and 507 [See document in the memories section]
   
6. Title: John de Ferrers, "Find A Grave Index" - Burial unknown
   Author: "Find A Grave Index," database, FamilySearch (https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:Q2BY-786N : 25 May 2022), John de Ferrers, ; Burial, , ; citing record ID 175242174, Find a Grave, http://www.findagrave.com.
   Publication: Name: https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:Q2BY-786N;
   
7. Title: John Mucegros and Robert Mucegros in the Magna Charta Sureties, 1215, Line 57 [See document in the Memories section]
   Author: Magna Charta Sureties, 1215, Line 57
   Note: John Mucegros and Robert Mucegros in the Magna Charta Sureties, 1215, Line 57 [See document in the Memories section]
   Page: John Mucegros and Robert Mucegros in the Magna Charta Sureties, 1215, Line 57 [See document in the Memories section]
   
8. Title: Proof of age for John de Ferrariis,kinsman and heir of Margaret de Ferrariis sometime countess of Derby
   Author: 'Inquisitions Post Mortem, Edward I, File 66', in Calendar of Inquisitions Post Mortem: Volume 3, Edward I, ed. J.E.E.S. Sharp and A.E. Stamp (London, 1912), pp. 79-99. British History Online http://www.british-history.ac.uk/inquis-post-mortem/vol3/pp79-99 [accessed 23 January 2020].
   Publication: Name: https://www.british-history.ac.uk/inquis-post-mortem/vol3/pp79-99;
   Note: 154. JOHN DE FERRARIIS, kinsman and heir of Margaret de Ferrariis sometime countess of Derby. Writ to the escheator to take the proof of age of the said John, and warn Edmund the king’s brother, who has the wardship of the lands &c. by the king’s grant, to be present if he wishes it, 15 June, 21 Edw. I [1293]. HUNTINGDON. Proof of age, 8 July, 21 Edw. I [1293], when Michael de Meledon came on behalf of the said Edmund, saying he believed the said John was of full age, but if the said Edmund holds any lands &c. of the inheritance of the said countess, the king ought not to restore them to the said John, for he believes his lord holds them as his free tenement. Richard Foliot, prior of Bissemede, says that the said John was 22 on the fourth day before the feast of St. John the Baptist last, and this he knows because many years ago he heard it by the relation of Sir Robert de Hecham, rector of the church of Kestam, who at the time of the said birth was in the service of (stetit cum) the said countess, and sat at her table (fuit commensal’ ejusdem). Robert de Hecham, rector of Kestan, says that the same John was born at Kaerdif on Saturday before the said feast 55 Hen. III [20 June 1271], and this he knows because he was then of the household of the said countess, who died 12 years ago, and then the said John was 10 years of age. Andrew, rector of the church of Kinebauton, agrees, and says that Eleanor, mother of the said John, was married to Robert his father about the said feast 24 years ago, and two years after she bore the said John, at which time he was constable of Sir Humphrey (Wunfredi) de Booun, grandfather of the said Eleanor de Kinebalton, and had news at once of the said birth. Richard de Beyvile, knight, agrees, and knows it because he has often heard many who knew the truth wondering that the said John had not his lands &c., being of age. Alan de Chartris agrees, and recollects it because three years before the said John’s birth he had seisin of the lands of Joan his wife, which was 25 years ago and more at the feast of St. Nicholas last. James de Sibford, knight, agrees, and knows it by the relation of the said Andrew and other trustworthy men, who used to wonder that the said John had not seisin of his lands being of full age. Richard le Mariscal of Stonlee agrees, and knows it because at that time he was of the household of Humphrey (Unfredi) de Boun, great grandfather of the said John, and a month after the said birth Beatrice his own mother bore a daughter Agnes, who if she had lived would be 22 about the feast of St. James next. Robert le Freman of Weston agrees, and knows it because on Wednesday after Palm Sunday, 9 Edw. I, after the death of the said countess an inquisition was made as to her lands &c. and the jurors said that the said John was her heir and would be 10 years of age at the feast of the Nativity of St. John the Baptist next following. Richard le Haueker of Kestan agrees, and says that within four days after the said birth he had news of it, and at the feast of the Purification following, Isabel his wife bore a son John, who was 21 at the said feast last past. Roger le Lord of Lethton and Nicholas Hildegar agree, and know it by the common report of the country, and relation of many trustworthy men. Alexander Walkelyn agrees, and recollects it because at the feast of St. Peter ad Vincula, 1 Edw. I, he took one Basilia to wife, and at the feast of the Nativity of St. John the Baptist previous, the said John was 2 years of age. E. Enrolment of Inq. p.m. &c. Roll. 4. m. 8d.
   Page: The main subject of this source.
   
9. Title: Wikipedia, "John de Ferrers, 1st Baron Ferrers of Chartley"
   Publication: Name: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_de_Ferrers%2C_1st_Baron_Ferrers_of_Chartley;
   Note: John de Ferrers, 1st Baron Ferrers of Chartley (20 June 1271 Cardiff – 1312) was the son of Robert de Ferrers, 6th Earl of Derby and Alianore de Bohun, daughter of Humphrey de Bohun and Eleanor de Braose, and granddaughter of Humphrey de Bohun, 2nd Earl of Hereford. He was both Seneschal of Gascony and Lieutenant of Aquitaine in 1312, the year of his death.[1] Ferrers joined the baronial opposition to King Edward in 1297, but was summoned as a baron in 1299.[2] He married Hawise de Muscegros, a daughter of Robert de Muscegros.[3] Their eldest son John (died by 1324) inherited the title Baron Ferrers of Chartley upon his father's death from poisoning in Gascony in 1312.[1]
   
10. Title: John de Ferrers in Burke's Dormant, Abeyant, Forfeited and Extinct Peerages, pg. 199 [See document in the Memories section]
    Author: Burke's Dormant, Abeyant, Forfeited and Extinct Peerages, pg. 199
    Note: John de Ferrers in Burke's Dormant, Abeyant, Forfeited and Extinct Peerages, pg. 199 [See document in the Memories section]
    Page: John de Ferrers in Burke's Dormant, Abeyant, Forfeited and Extinct Peerages, pg. 199 [See document in the Memories section]
    
11. Title: Foundation for Medieval Genealogy: JOHN Ferrers of Chartley, Staffordshire, son of ROBERT de Ferrers Earl of Derby & his second wife Alianore de Bohun
    Publication: Name: https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/ENGLISH%20NOBILITY%20MEDIEVAL1.htm#_ftnref402;
    Note: JOHN Ferrers of Chartley, Staffordshire, son of ROBERT de Ferrers Earl of Derby & his second wife Alianore de Bohun (Cardiff 20 Jun 1271-Gascony [Aug] 1312). He was summoned to Parliament in 1299, whereby he is held to have become Lord Ferrers. m (licence 1300]) as her second husband, HAWISE de Muscegros, widow of WILLIAM de Mortimer of Bridgewater, daughter and heiress of ROBERT de Muscegros of Stowell, Somerset & his wife Agnes --- (21 Dec 1276-[1340/50]). She married thirdly John de Bures. John & his wife had four children:
    
12. Title: John de Ferrers of Chartley in the Foundation for Medieval Genealogy ~http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/ENGLISH%20NOBILITY%20MEDIEVAL1.htm#_ftnref437 [See document in the Memories section]
    Publication: Name: http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/ENGLISH%20NOBILITY%20MEDIEVAL1.htm#_ftnref437;
    Note: John de Ferrers of Chartley in the Foundation for Medieval Genealogy ~http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/ENGLISH%20NOBILITY%20MEDIEVAL1.htm#_ftnref437 [See document in the Memories section]
    Page: John de Ferrers of Chartley in the Foundation for Medieval Genealogy ~http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/ENGLISH%20NOBILITY%20MEDIEVAL1.htm#_ftnref437 [See document in the Memories section]
    
13. Title: Hawise de Muscegros, daughter of Robert de Muscegros in Foundation for Medieval Genealogy ~https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/ENGLISH%20NOBILITY%20MEDIEVAL1.htm#_ftnref402 [See document in the memories section]
    Publication: Name: https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/ENGLISH%20NOBILITY%20MEDIEVAL1.htm#_ftnref402;
    Note: Hawise de Muscegros, daughter of Robert de Muscegros in Foundation for Medieval Genealogy ~https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/ENGLISH%20NOBILITY%20MEDIEVAL1.htm#_ftnref402 [See document in the memories section]
    Page: Hawise de Muscegros, daughter of Robert de Muscegros in Foundation for Medieval Genealogy ~https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/ENGLISH%20NOBILITY%20MEDIEVAL1.htm#_ftnref402 [See document in the memories section]