Joan Foliot

• Preferred Name: Joan Foliot^[1]
  
• Gender: F
  
• FSID: GQ6W-JJ7
  
• Death: 11 FEB 1349 in Nantwich, Cheshire, England at LATI: N3.0676 LONG: E2.5235
  
• Birth: ABT 1304 in Melbury Abbas, Dorset, England at LATI: N0.9833 LONG: E2.1667 with note: She was 26 and more in 1330
  
• Notes:

  «b»Marriage«/b»
  Nicholas Percy and had issue.
  
  1.) John Mautravers and had issue.
  
  2.) Alexander de Veneables.
  
  === Ancestral File Number: 11D7-D7S ===
  Ancestral File Number: 11D7-D7S
  
  === Joan, daughter of Walter Follot of White ===
  Joan, daughter of Walter Follot of Whiteford, co. Devon and Melbury Turberville, Dorset. [Magna Charta Sureties]
  
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  He [John Mautravers] married, 2ndly, Joan, widow of Nicholas DE PERCY, who died in 1324, and daughter and heir of Sir Walter FOLIOT, by his wife Ada or Alda, daughter and heir of Sir Laurence DE SAMFORD of Melbury (h). He was living 26 January 1340/1, but dead in June 1341. His widow, who was aged 26 and more in 1330 (k), was heiress(inter alia) of a sixth part of the barony of Nantwich in Cheshire. She married, 3rdly, Sir Alexander DE VENABLES, with whom she nominated attorneys for Ireland 7 September 1342. She died before 11 February 1348/9 (c). [Complete PeerageVIII:579-81, (transcribed by Dave Utzinger)]
  
  (h) By his 2nd wife Sir John had 3 daughters, Alice, Joan and Elizabeth. Joan dsp., but Elizabeth had issue and long survived her mother, though not returned as coheir in the Inq.p.m. quoted in note "c" on following page.
  
  (k) When her mother died. On 16 Mar. 1336/7 William, son of William de Percy, parson of Folke, Dorset, was to be arrested for the abduction of Joan, wife of John Mautravers, the elder.
  
  (c) When the writ to the excheator was issued. Her heirs (as returned in Cheshire) were her two daughters: (i) Joan, her daughter by Nicholas de Percy, then aged 26 andwife of Piers de Brewes; (ii) Alice, her daughter by John Mautravers, then aged 21. As Alice, mother of John Browning, she was living in 1415.
  
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  Note: I originally had Joan's 2nd husband as John's son John who d.16 Feb 1363/64. Joan is only 15 years younger than the son John, while she isat least 39 years younger than John senior. And she had children by him (three daughters).
  
  === m2 John Mautravers, m3 Alexander Venable ===
  m2 John Mautravers, m3 Alexander Venables.
  
  === Alternate surnames: Follyet (IGI (Intern ===
  Alternate surnames: Follyet (IGI (International Genealogical Index))
  
  Joan Foliot was age 26 in 1330. (Ancestral File)
  
  Death date: before 11 Feb 1348/1349 (Ancestral File)
  
  Burial date: before 11 Feb 1348/1349 (Ancestral File)
  
  === He [John Mautravers] married, 2ndly, Joa ===
  He [John Mautravers] married, 2ndly, Joan, widow of Nicholas DE PERCY, who died in 1324, and daughter and heir of Sir Walter FOLIOT, by his wife Ada or Alda, daughter and heir of Sir Laurence DE SAMFORD of Melbury (h). He was living 26 January 1340/1, but dead in June 1341. His widow, who was aged 26 and more in 1330 (k), was heiress (inter alia) of a sixth part of the barony of Nantwich in Cheshire. She married, 3rdly, Sir Alexander DE VENABLES, with whom she nominated attorneys for Ireland 7 September 1342. She died before 11 February 1348/9 (c). [Complete Peerage VIII:579-81, (transcribed by Dave Utzinger)]
  (c) When the writ to the excheator was issued. Her heirs (as returned in Cheshire) were her two daughters: (i) Joan, her daughter by Nicholas de Percy, then aged 26 and wife of Piers de Brewes; (ii) Alice, her daughter by John Mautravers, then aged 21. As Alice, mother of John Browning, she was living in 1415.
  
  Married twice;
  1st) Nicholas De Percy b: Abt 1290 in Kildale, North Ride Yorkshire, England
  Married: Bef 1312 in 1st Husband 5 6
  Children
  1) Joan De Percy b: Abt 1323 in Kildale, North Ride Yorkshire, England
  
  2nd) John V De Maltravers b: Bef 1266 in Woolcombe, Dorsetshire, England
  Married: After 1324 in 2ND Husband 2ND Wife 7
  Children
  1) Alice Maltravers b: 29 Sep 1327 in Hooke, Dorsetshire, England
  
  Marriage 3 Alexander De Venables b: Abt 1304 in England
  Married: After 1341 in 3rd Husband 8
  Change Date: 14 Feb 2003
  
  === [[Category:Mautravers]] ===
  [[Category:Mautravers]]
  [[Category:Nominated Profiles]]
  {{British Isles 742-1499}}
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  ===Marriage===
  Married
  #[[Percy-387|Nicholas Percy]] and had issue.
  # [[Maltravers-6|John Mautravers]] and had issue. # Alexander de Veneables.[http://books.google.com/books?id=PgyzSVb3OYYC&pg=PA339&lpg=PA339&dq=foliot+warren+cheney&source=bl&ots=DFUrbLwskr&sig=mWHCSq1SRJ4bTjh6MaroC_nzYlk&hl=en&sa=X&ei=74hmU-miF-7esASLqIDICA&ved=0CDsQ6AEwBg#v=onepage&q=foliot%20warren%20cheney&f=false Collectanea Topographica Et Genealogica], Volume 6, p. 339.
  
  '''Excerpt from ''Joan Brewes'' '''
  ''Madden, Bandinel, and Nichols'' in an article in ''[http://books.google.com/books?id=PgyzSVb3OYYC&pg=PA339&lpg=PA339&dq=foliot+warren+cheney&source=bl&ots=DFUrbLwskr&sig=mWHCSq1SRJ4bTjh6MaroC_nzYlk&hl=en&sa=X&ei=74hmU-miF-7esASLqIDICA&ved=0CDsQ6AEwBg#v=onepage&q=foliot%20warren%20cheney&f=false Collectanea Topographica Et Genealogica]'' concludedthat a Joan Foliot and [[Maltravers-6|John Mautravers]] had the following daughters,
  #Joan the wife of Ralph Warren and Alan Cheney, # [[Maltravers-12|Alice]] the wife of Thomas de Rodburgh and [[Browning-120|John Browning]], and
  # Elizabeth the wife of Roger Folville and William Latimer.
  They also concluded that, after the death of [[Maltravers-6|John Mautravers]], [[Foliot-41|Joan Foliot]] had then married Alexander Venablesfrom whom there was no issue. However, they were unsure of whether there was any relationship between this Joan Foliot, and Joan [[Foliot-41]] the wife of [[Percy-387|Nicholas Percy]] and their children. Indeed, ''Madden et al'' make no mention of a [[Braose-95|Peter de Brewes]]at all.
  
  But F.N. Craig in a latter paper correctly identifies that this [[Foliot-41|Joan Foliot ]] had successively married [[Percy-387|Nicholas Percy]], [[Maltravers-6|John Mautravers]], and Alexander Venables. He also cites evidence that [[Foliot-41|Joan Foliot]] and [[Percy-387|Nicholas Percy]] had a daughter named [[Percy-209|Joan (Percy)]] who married[[Braose-95|Peter de Brewes (Braose) of Wiston]]. In a still latter article he reports that [[Foliot-41|Joan Foliot]] by her marriage with [[Maltravers-6|John Mautravers]] had also the following children [[Maltravers-12|Alice]], Elizabeth, and Joan. Though F.N. Craig cites no evidence for this Joan Mautravers. ''Complete Peerage'' makes a similar conclusion to F.N. Craig that [[Maltravers-6|John Mautravers]] and [[Foliot-41|Joan Foliot]] had three children, [[Maltravers-12|Alice]], Joan, and Elizabeth. In this regard, ''Complete Peerage'' cites a Cheshire inquisition post mortem and Hutchins, but note his accounts are discrepant and are obviously incomplete. P.W. Mackenzie, [http://freespace.virgin.net/doug.thompson/BraoseWeb/family/Joan%20Brewes.pdf THEMATERNITY of JOHN and BEATRIX de BREWES]. PDF on a web page of Douglas Thompson. Retrieved 2014-05-05, [[Bairfield-1|amb]]
  
  ==Sources==
  
  * [http://books.google.com/books?id=6JQ3AAAAYAAJ&pg=PA238&lpg=PA238&dq=laurance+sampford&source=bl&ots=v9tWVZIDFc&sig=ChLF_kZ-PiHpGP-4jOvB9kbuKuY&hl=en&sa=X&ei=jilqU_rhL8ThsASlzICQDA&ved=0CDEQ6AEwAg#v=onepage&q=laurance%20sampford&f=false Proceedings of the Dorset Natural Historyand Antiquarian Field Club], Volume 28. By Dorset Natural History andArchaeological Society
  * [http://books.google.com/books?id=PgyzSVb3OYYC&pg=PA339&lpg=PA339&dq=foliot+warren+cheney&source=bl&ots=DFUrbLwskr&sig=mWHCSq1SRJ4bTjh6MaroC_nzYlk&hl=en&sa=X&ei=74hmU-miF-7esASLqIDICA&ved=0CDsQ6AEwBg#v=onepage&q=foliot%20warren%20cheney&f=false Collectanea Topographica Et Genealogica], Volume 6. edited by Frederic Madden, Bulkeley Bandinel, John Gough Nichols
  This person was created through the import of Acrossthepond.ged on 21 February 2011.

• m. BEF 1331

1. Title: Mautravers in the Complete Peerage
   Author: Cokayne, George Edward and H.A. Doubleday et. al eds. Complete Peerage of England, Scotland, Ireland, Great Britain and the United Kingdom, Vol. VIII: Lindley to Moate, 2nd edition. (London, 1932).
   Publication: Name: https://www.familysearch.org/library/books/viewer/594161/?offset=0#page=599&viewer=picture&o=search&n=0&q=Mautravers;
   Page: Mentioned on page 280-1: age, first and third marriages, parents, etc.