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James Bates
- Preferred Name: James Bates[1] [2] [3] [4] [5] [6] [7] [8] [9] [10] [11] [12] [13] [14]
- Gender: M
- Christening: 2 DEC 1562 in Lydd, Kent, England at LATI: N0.9503 LONG: E0.9056
- FSID: 9JCZ-N1V
- Birth: 2 DEC 1562 in Lydd, Kent, England at LATI: N0.9503 LONG: E0.9056 with note: Standardized
- Death: 2 MAR 1614 in Lydd, Kent, England at LATI: N0.9503 LONG: E0.9056 with note: Standardized
- Burial: 2 MAR 1614 in Lydd, Kent, England at LATI: N0.9503 LONG: E0.9056 with note: Standardized
- Notes:
=== Life Sketch ===
FHL book "Our Bates Genealogy," by Mary Emma Burt and Robert Eugene Burt (Shawnee Mission, KS; 1993), pp. 19-20:
"James (A) Bates (John(B) Jurat,). Born in Lydd, Kent, ENG [Bates, Apr 1917, p. 119, 120; Oct 1917, p. 6]. Died, 2 Mar 1613/4, in Lydd, Kent, ENG [Register of All Saints Church]. Prob of Est: 31 Mar 1614, in Lydd, Clement & Thomas, wife, Mary Executrix. Occupation: Yeoman. A Bates "Rime" says:
"Each man is a branch of a stout oak tree.
After storm and stress it will stronger be;
In sun it should grow to its proudest size.
Its roots in old earth, its crown in the skies.
A branch is then what a man may be --
Part of the strength of the family tree." (Genealogy-October 1912)
He married Mary Martine, 6 Jun 1580, in Lydd, Kent, ENG [NEHGR 3:269]. Children:
i. Robert Bates.
ii. James Bates.
iii. Anna Bates. Born in Lydd, Kent, ENG [Bates, Oct 1917, p. 7]. Died, 21 Jul 1586, in Lydd, Kent, ENG [NEHGR, 3:269]. Christened, 2 Aug 1554.
iv. John Bates. Died in Lydd, Kent, ENG [NEHGR, 3:269]. Christened, 17 Nov 1588, in Lydd, Kent, ENG. Burial: 6 Mar 1605/6.
v. Thomas Bates. Born in Lydd, Kent, ENG [Bates, Oct 1917, pp. 6, 7]. Died, 19 Jul 1590, in Lydd, Kent, ENG [NEHGR, 3:269]. Christened, 7 Jun 1590.
vi. Edward Bates. Born in Lydd, Kent, ENG [NEHGR, 3:269]. Christened, 1 Oct 1592. Burial: 23 Oct 1616.
vii. Clement Bates.
viii. Mary Bates. Born in Lydd, Kent, ENG [Bates, Oct 1917, p. 7]. Christened, 24 Aug 1600, in Lydd, Kent, ENG.
ix. Isaac Bates. Born in Lydd, Kent, ENG [Bates, Oct 1917, p. 7]. Christened, 21 Feb 1601/2.
x. Rachel Bates. Born in Lydd, Kent, ENG [Bates, Oct 1917, p. 7]. Christened, 5 Feb 1603/4.
xi. Martha Bates. Born in Lydd, Kent, ENG [Bates, Oct 1917, p. 7]. Died in Lydd, Kent, ENG. Christened, 28 Dec 1605. Burial: 15 Jan 1605/6.
xii. Joseph Bates. Born, 5 Feb 1597/8, in Lydd, Kent, ENG [NEHGR, 3:269]. Christened, 5 Feb 1597/8.
xiii. Anna Bates. Born in Lydd, Kent, ENG [Bates, Oct 1919, p. 7]. Christened, 21 Aug 1586. Burial: 7 Nov 1587.
References:
Charles Edward Banks, "Planters of the Commonwealth 1620-40," (Baltimore: Genealogical Publishing Co., 1975).
Bates Association, Bates Bulletin.
George E. Bates, "Bates-Breed Ancestry," (Thomas Todd Co., 1975).
William Montgomery Clemens, "American Marriage Records Before 1699," (Baltimore: Genealogical Publishing Co., 1977)
Henry R. Plomer, "Index of Wills and Administration now preserved in the Probate Registry at Canterbury, 1396-1558 and 1640-1650." (London, The British Record Society, Limited., 1920).
Charles Henry Pope, Pioneers of Massachusetts," (Baltimore: Genealogical Publishing Co., 1969).
Henry F. Waters, "Genealogical Gleanings in England" (Baltimore: Genealogical Publishing Co., 1969), I, p.21-23, 1301."
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FHL book 929.273 B318bg "A Bates-Breed" Ancestry," by George E. Bates (Privately Printed; Boston; 1975), pp. 16-17:
"James, s. John & Mildred (Ward) Bate, d. Lydd, Co. Kent, Eng., 2 Mar. 1614/5, m. 6 June 1580, Mary Martine. Ch. bp. Lydd:
a. Robert, bp. 5 Mar.1580/1, d. 1610.
b. James, bp. 2 Dec. 1582; came to New Eng. with wife & 4 ch. on the Elizabeth in 1635; settled in Hingham, then rem. to Dorchester, Mass.; d. Dorchester, 1655, m. Eng., -- Sept. 1603, Alice Glover of Saltwood, Ch. b. Eng. [Lists 9 children.]
c. Anna, bp. 2 Aug. 1584, bur. 21 July 1586.
d. Anna, bp. 21 Aug. 1586, bur. 7 Nov. 1586.
e. John, bp. 17 Nov. 1588, bur. 6 Mar. 1606.
f. Thomas, bp. 7 June 1590.
g. Edward, bp. 1 Oct. 1592, bur. 23 Oct. 1616.
h. Clement, bp. 22 Jan.1594/5, d. Hingham, 17 Sept. 1671, m. Eng., Anne ___.
i. Joseph, bp. 5 Feb. 1597/8.
j. Mary, bp. 24 Aug. 1600.
k. Isaac, bp. 21 Feb. 1601/2.
l. Rachel, bp. 5 Feb. 1603/4.
m. Martha (who might, however, have been dau. of s. James), bp. 28 Dec.1604, bur. 15 Jan. 1605/6
Bate Family
“As nature breath & lyfe doth yelde,
So drawes on death by kynde,
And yet throughe fayth in Chryste by deathe,
Eternall lyfe we fynde.
Beholde a profe by me that dyd
Enioye my vitall breath,
Ful
James Bate
(2 December 1555 – 2 March 1614)
Wife: Mary Martine (1563-1613). Will proved 31 Mar 1614.
(https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/51604002/james-bate)
Find a Grave
James Bate Sr.
Birth: 1555 Lydd, Shepway District, Kent, England
Death: 2 Mar 1614 (aged 58–59) Lydd, Shepway District, Kent, England
Burial: All Saints Churchyard, Lydd, Shepway District, Kent, Engla
=== [v01t0296.ftw] James was styled "yeoman ===
[v01t0296.ftw] James was styled "yeoman" in his will dated Feb. 27, 1613-14 and proved March 31, 1614. In that will he mentions several grandchildren: Judith ("not 16") and Robert ("when 21), daugher and son of son Robert; William & Richard, sons, and Thomasine, daughter, children of son James. He also mentions that Thomas BATE and Clement (Jurats of Lydd) are cousins (his father's brother's children). --"The Bates Bulletin" Vol. I, Series III p.6.
=== extract of will of James Bate of Lydd, Kent 1614 ===
Will Bates James Lydd 1613 1614 PRC/32/42/364 PRC/31/65 B/1 1614
England, Kent, Wills and Probate, 1440-1881
Kent, Diocese of Canterbury
Wills 1614, A-Z image 25 of 306
will written 27 February 1613/14
James Bates the elder of Lydd, Kent yeoman
-buried in church or churchyard of Lydd
-Robert Bate [under 21] the son of Robert Bate my son deceased
-Judith the daughter of my son Robert Bate deceased
-daughter Mary under 20
-daughter Rachell under 20
-wife Mary
-George Tuggull of Lydd
-William Bate the son of James Bate my son
--line of script in fold and unreadable
-Richard Bate the son of James Bate my son
-residue to wife Mary and I doe mak her my sole executor
WILL
-lands in Prowmhill in Kent and Sussex
-2 daughters Mary and Rachelllands in the Rookes
-son James Bate parcel of land called the Newmmings
-4 sons Thomas Bat, Edward Bate, Clement Bate and Isacke Bate ...
-overseers cousins [nephews, cousins, etc] Clement Bate and Thomas Bate Jurate of the Towne [Lydd]
signature of james Bate
witnesses George Tuggull Richard Simones and Richard Adkyn
probate 31 March 1614
=== [John Bate Family.FBK.FTW] [Bates 296.F ===
[John Bate Family.FBK.FTW] [Bates 296.FTW] [Brøderbund WFT Vol. 1, Ed. 1, Tree #0296, Date of Import: 29 Jan 1999] James was styled "yeoman" in his will dated Feb. 27, 1613-14 and proved March 31, 1614. In that will he mentions several grandchildren: Judith ("not 16") and Robert ("when 21), daugher and son of son Robert; William & Richard, sons, and Thomasine, daughter, children of son James. He also mentions that Thomas BATE and Clement (Jurats of Lydd) are cousins (his father's brother's children). --"The Bates Bulletin" Vol. I, Series III p.6. Notes for James1 BATES: (from http://www.familytreemaker.com/users/m/a/z/Vicki-R-Mazur/GENE3-0014.html) Sources: 1. Savage 2. DAR National Mag Vol 74 #11 3, NEHGR vol 51 4. "Pioneers of MA" Pope 5. "Journal of American Genealogy" vol 5 6. "Bates Genealogy" Peggy Bates 1988 7. LDS Ancestral File 8. Everton GEDSRCH Ford Family Database, Anniston, AL 9. DianeBates@aol
=== !The Bates Bulletin Vol 1 Oct 1917 p7
J ===
!The Bates Bulletin Vol 1 Oct 1917 p7
James Bate is styled yeoman. He leaves to Robert, son of son Robert desceased
L40 when 21. mentions Judith dau of son Robert not 16. mentions sons James,
Thomas, Edward, Clement and Isaac. William and Richard sons of son James and
Thomasine dau of son Jmaes.
=== !SOURCE: History of the Town of Hingham, ===
!SOURCE: History of the Town of Hingham, Mass FHL book
=== Lydd
===
Hlyda, Anglo- Saxon for shore. Derived from the Latin. Found in an Anglo- Saxon charter dated 8th Century
- Notes:
Description: WILL of James Bate the elder, yeoman of Lydd, Kent - wife Mary - Robert & Judith children of my son Robert Bates, deceased, is younger than 21 - daughters Mary & Rachell are both younger than 20 - also has land in Sussex - William Bate son of James Bate my son - Tamsen Bate daughter of son James Bate - Richard the son of my son James Bate - sons Thomas, Edward, Clement & Isacke - cousins Clement Bate & Thomas Bate are to be overseers - he lists some of the names of land he owns - written 27 Feb 1613 - probated 31 March 1614
Preferred Parents:
Father: John Bates, b. 1521 in Lydd, Kent, England d. 13 MAY 1580 in Lydd, Kent, England
Mother: Mildred Ward, b. 1526 in Lydd, Kent, England d. 2 JUN 1570 in Lydd, Kent, England
Family 1: Mary Martine, b. 10 APR 1563 in Lydd, Kent, England d. 22 JUL 1610 in Lydd, Kent, England
- m. 6 JUN 1580 in Lydd, Kent, England
- Clement Bate, b. BEF 26 JAN 1595 in Lydd, Kent, England d. 17 SEP 1671 in Hingham, Suffolk, Massachusetts Bay Colony, British Colonial America
Sources:
- Title: James Bate in the New England, The Great Migration and The Great Migration Begins, 1620-1635
Author: Great Migration, Vol 1, A-B pages 124-125
Publication: Name: https://search.ancestry.com/collections/2496/records/10635;
Note: father of Rachel Bate who married William Bachelor. She was baptized 5 Feb 1603/4 [NEGHR 51:269]
- Title: James Bates (1555-1614), the Millennium File
Publication: Name: https://search.ancestry.com/collections/7249/records/1069867;
Note: Name: James Bates
Gender: Male
Birth Date: 1555
Birth Place: Lydd, Kent, England
Death Date: 2 Mar 1614
Marriage Date: 6 Jun 1580
Marriage Place: Lydd, Kent, England
Father: John Bates
Mother: Mildred Ward
Spouse: Mary Martine
- Title: John Bates (1562-1614) Web: Netherlands, GenealogieOnline Trees Index, 1000-2015
Publication: Name: https://search.ancestry.com/collections/9289/records/25960283;
Note: Name: John Bates
[James Bates]
Gender: m (Male)
Birth Date: 2 Dec 1562
Birth Place: Lydd, Kent, England
Death Date: 2 mrt 1614 (2 Mar 1614)
Death Place: Lydd, Kent, England
Death Age: 51
Spouse: Mary Martine
- Title: will of James Bates, yeoman of Lydd, Kent 1614
Author: Citation "England, Kent, Wills and Probate, 1440-1881," images, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:33S7-9RG5-SWL?cc=1949814&wc=M68V-YZ9%3A250713801%2C250719201%2C251291501 : 20 May 2014), Kent, Diocese of Canterbury > Wills > 1614, A-Z > image 25 of 306; County Record Office, Maidstone.
Publication: Name: https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:33S7-9RG5-SWL?i=24&wc=M68V-YZ9%3A250713801%2C250719201%2C251291501&cc=1949814;
Note: Will Bates James Lydd 1613 1614 PRC/32/42/364 PRC/31/65 B/1 1614
England, Kent, Wills and Probate, 1440-1881
Kent, Diocese of Canterbury
Wills 1614, A-Z image 25 of 306
will written 27 February 1613/14
James Bates the elder of Lydd, Kent yeoman
-buried in church or churchyard of Lydd
-Robert Bate [under 21] the son of Robert Bate my son deceased
-Judith the daughter of my son Robert Bate deceased
-daughter Mary under 20
-daughter Rachell under 20
-wife Mary
-George Tuggull of Lydd [possibly Tuggett?]
-William Bate the son of James Bate my son
--line of script in fold and unreadable
-Richard Bate the son of James Bate my son
-residue to wife Mary and I doe make her my sole executor
WILL
-lands in Prowmhill?? in Kent and Sussex
-2 daughters Mary and Rachell lands in the Rookes
-son James Bate parcel of land called the Newmmings?
-4 sons Thomas Bat, Edward Bate, Clement Bate and Isacke Bate ...
-overseers cousins [nephews, cousins, etc] Clement Bate and Thomas Bate Jurate of the Towne [Lydd]
actual signature of James Bate
witnesses George Tuggull Richard Simones and Richard Adkyn
probate 31 March 1614
Page: will of James Bates [Bate] of Lydd 1614
- Title: James Bate (1555-1614), "Find A Grave Index"
Author: "Find A Grave Index," database, FamilySearch (https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:Q2SM-3V9Y : 10 September 2021), James Bate, ; Burial, Lydd, Shepway District, Kent, England, All Saints Churchyard; citing record ID 156264324, Find a Grave, http://www.findagrave.com.
Publication: Name: https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:Q2SM-3V9Y;
Note: https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/156264324/james-bate
James Bate Sr.
BIRTH 1555 Lydd, Shepway District, Kent, England
DEATH 2 Mar 1614 (aged 58–59) Lydd, Shepway District, Kent, England
BURIAL All Saints Churchyard
Lydd, Shepway District, Kent, England
MEMORIAL ID 156264324
James Bate, Sr. was born between about 1555 and 1562. His parents were John Bate and Mildred (Ward) Bate and he married Mary Martin(e) on 6 June 1580. His will was dated 27 February 1613/4, burial occurred on 2 March 1613/4, and his will entered probate on 31 March 1613/4.
- Title: James Bate in entry for Anna Bate, "England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975"
Author: "England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975", database, FamilySearch (https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:NNVD-RY5 : 5 February 2023), James Bate in entry for Anna Bate, 1584.
Publication: Name: https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:NNVD-RY5;
- Title: The New England Historical and Genealogical Register, April 1897, Vol. 51
Publication: Name: https://archive.org/stream/newenglandhistor51wate#page/268/mode/2up;
- Title: Johes. Bates in entry for Grace Bates, "England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975"
Author: "England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975", database, FamilySearch (https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:JQTW-DQ2 : 4 February 2023), Johes. Bates in entry for Grace Bates, 1566.
Publication: Name: https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:JQTW-DQ2;
Note: This extracted record was used to create this person in Family Tree.
- Title: James Bate in entry for Clement Bate, "England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975"
Author: "England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975", database, FamilySearch (https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:JQ7L-KB1 : 5 February 2023), James Bate in entry for Clement Bate, 1595.
Publication: Name: https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:JQ7L-KB1;
- Title: James Bate in entry for Rachaell Bate, "England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975"
Author: "England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975", database, FamilySearch (https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:N1Z7-33N : 5 February 2023), James Bate in entry for Rachaell Bate, 1604.
Publication: Name: https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:N1Z7-33N;
- Title: James Bate in entry for Clement Bate, "England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975"
Author: "England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975", database, FamilySearch (https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:NNVD-YQX : 5 February 2023), James Bate in entry for Clement Bate, 1595.
Publication: Name: https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:NNVD-YQX;
- Title: James Bate, "Find A Grave Index"
Author: "Find A Grave Index," database, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:Q2SM-3V9Y : 15 March 2016), James Bate, 1614; Burial, Lydd, Shepway District, Kent, England, All Saints Churchyard; citing record ID 156264324, Find a Grave, http://www.findagrave.com.
Publication: Name: https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:Q2SM-3V9Y;
- Title: Anderson, Robert Charles, GREAT MIGRATION: IMMIGRANTS TO NEW ENGLAND, 1634-1635
Author: http://www.americanancestors.org/databases/great-migration-immigrants-to-new-england-1634-1635-volume-i-a-b/image/?volumeId=7051&pageName=195&rId=235166242
Publication: Name: https://www.familysearch.org/photos/artifacts/19748712;
- Title: Ancestral Line for Eight Generations of Capt. Lemuel Bates, 1729-1820: With Some Records of His Descendants. Hartford, 1943
Publication: Name: https://babel.hathitrust.org/cgi/pt?id=wu.89062854377&view=1up&seq=19;
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