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Isabel Overton
- Preferred Name: Isabel Overton
- Gender: F
- FSID: GKYN-BSS
- Death: Y
- Birth: ABT 1520 in Clerkenwell, Middlesex, England, United Kingdom at LATI: N1.5266 LONG: E0.1082 with note: The date that was replaced was well before the marriage date of her parents.
- Notes:
=== Life Sketch ===
https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Overton-38
Biography
Isabell was mentioned in the will of her mother Olive Overton dated 19 December 1545. She was already married to John Cordall at that time and they are referred to as "my sonne John Cordall and Isabel his wyffe", also "my daughters Catheryne and Isabell". Executors were "my sonne Edward Isabell Cordall and Katheryne my daughters".[1]
Isabel wife of John Cordell 30 August 1560 at Edmonton, London.[2]
Research Notes
1. The birth dates of the original profile and Geni (1532), disagree with Source S3 (1528) and S4 (1543). The birth date of her oldest child (1563) is consistent with any of these dates, though 1532 would be more typical.
2. The sources disagree on her birth place, Easington, Yorkshire, Bedworth, Warwickshire, Clerkenwell, Middlesex. Perhaps there is more than one Isabel.
3. The father for each source are listed as a variation of Guthlake, Cuthbert, and Guthlac. The mother is always Olive Browne.
Date of birth: Before 1530, and could be as early as 1511. Isabel was probably the eldest or next eldest of five daughters (seven sons are counted separately), and her father died in 1536. Her parents are said to have married about 1510.[3] Her mother's will is dated 19 December 1545 and Isabel was already married at that time to John Cordall, who is entrusted with nearly all the inheritance arrangements for Isabel's unmarried sisters, and was an overseer of the will, so was probably older than 21. Isabell was an executor of the will herself and not likely to be under 16.
Place of birth: cannot find any evidence of a connection with Yorkshire at that time. Isabel's father was born in Lincolnshire, held lands in Wiltshire and London, was commissioner for Duchy of Cornwall lands from 1508 onwards, M.P. for Wallingford, Oxfordshire 1529 - 1533 and auditor of the order of St John of Jerusalem. The order of St John had its headquarters in Clerkenwell, London, and Guthlac was living nearby at the time he died. Of the three birthplaces given for Isabel above, only Clerkenwell has a known connection.[4]
Isabel daughter of Guthlac and Olive Overton is fairly well documented by her mother's will which also includes her husband. She probably died in Edmonton, London, in 1560. There is no evidence at the moment of a Bristol connection.
↑ The National Archives; Kew, Surrey, England; Records of the Prerogative Court of Canterbury, Series PROB 11; Class: PROB 11; Piece: 31, Ancestry.com England and Wales, Prerogative Court of Canterbury Wills, 1384-1858 - Direct links, two pages - https://www.ancestry.co.uk/sharing/24366105?h=0604c0 https://www.ancestry.co.uk/sharing/24366450?h=ae7f9e
↑ Edmonton parish register at Ancestry.com London, England, Church of England Baptisms, Marriages and Burials, 1538-1812 - https://www.ancestry.co.uk/sharing/24369777?h=dc640a
↑ The Overton Family of Swineshead, Lincolnshire, pages 160-163, in The American Genealogist 1960: Vol 36 Issue 3 page 161 https://archive.org/details/sim_american-genealogist_1960-07_36_3/page/161
↑ history of Parliament online, http://www.histparl.ac.uk/volume/1509-1558/member/overton-guthlac-1478-1537
Stott, Clifford L., In search of "Mr." Overton: the Ancestry of Rev. Valentine Overton and His Connections to New England Immigrants Rev. Peter Bulkeley, Elizabeth (St. John) Whiting, Martha (Bulkeley) Mellowes, Olive (Welby) Farwell, Rev. Thomas James, Daniel Clark, Rev. Josias Clark, Isabel (Overton) Huit, Elizabeth (Bulkeley) (Whittingham) Hough, William Quarles, and Joanna (Quarles) Smith, NEHGR Vol 172, Summer 2018, pp 221 - 237
S1. Ancestry
S2. Geni Isabel Hobson (Overton), born in 1532 in Bedworth, Warwickshire, England. Daughter of Cutler Guthlake Overton an Olive Browne. Mother of Elizabeth Cowper, Elizabeth Clarke and Henry Hobson. Wife of Henry Hobson, Uncertain.
S3. OurFamilyHistories. Isabel Overton, born in 1528 in Clerkenwell, Middlesex, England. Daughter of Cuthbert Overton and Olive. No husband or children are listed.
S4. FamilySearch. Isabel Overton, born in 1543 in Bedworth, Warwickshire, England. died 1593 in St. Dunstan and All Saints, London. Wife of James Valentine Hobson. Daughter of Guthlac Overton and Olive Browne. Mother of Henry and Elizabeth
1. Created through the import of Bishop Family Tree.ged on 18 February 2011.
2. WikiTree profile Overton-271 created through the import of Murphy Family Tree.ged on Oct 4, 2011 by Jason Murphy.
=== Probably not a daughter of Bishop William Overton. ===
Suspicious genealogy as middle names were practically non-existent then in England.
The only child listed for William "In Search of Mr. Overton ..." was a daughter Susan. According to this source, there is good evidence that when William died in 1609 his only living child was a daughter Susan. [p. 223]. Isabel Elizabeth Overton has a death date of 1643 listed for her.
Preferred Parents:
Father: Cuthbert Overton, d. 1536
Mother: Olive Browne,
Family 1: James Hobson, b. 1530 in Hingham, Norfolk, England, United Kingdom d. ABT 1616 in Parish of St Peter, Southwark, Surrey, England
- m. BET 1555 AND 1564 in England
- Elizabeth Hobson, b. 29 MAR 1564 in Hingham, Norfolk, England d. BEF 11 APR 1602 in Hingham, Norfolk, England
Family 2: John Valentine Hobson, b. 1530 in Hingham, Norfolk, England, United Kingdom d. 1614 in Norfolk, England, United Kingdom
Family 3: John Cordall, b. 1528 in London, England d. 3 OCT 1579 in London, England
Family 4: James Hobson,
- Elizabeth Hobson, b. 29 MAR 1564 in Hingham, Norfolk, England d. BEF 11 APR 1602 in Hingham, Norfolk, England
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