Thomas Bate

• Preferred Name: Thomas Bate^{[1] [2] [3] [4] [5] [6] [7] [8] [9] [10]}
  
• Gender: M
  
• Death: 1485 in Lydd, Kent, England at LATI: N0.9503 LONG: E0.9056
  
• Birth: 1440 in Kent, England
  
• Burial: 1485 in All Hallows Parish Church, Lydd, Kent, England at LATI: N0.9503 LONG: E0.9056
  
• FSID: LK48-WQK
  
• Notes:

  === Life Sketch ===
  Biography
  Uncertain Parents
  Thomas Bate MIGHT be the son of John Bate and Sara Roberts, but there is no conclusive evidence. The only sources that exist are family histories. The names are common making it impossible to determine what child belongs to which parents. They are being detached until definitive proof can be found.
  
  Marriage
  Thomas clearly married a woman named Margaret as can be seen in will dated 19 Oct 1485.
  
  Known Children
  1.) John Bate
  
  2.) Alice Bate
  
  Death
  Thomas Bate died before 19 April in the year 1486.
  
  "To the Brotherhood of St John Baptist 12d. Wife Margaret all my household things & son John one large brass pot after the death of his mother. Wife to have 2 cows & 7 sheep with the increase of this year. Executors wife Margaret & son John. Wife to have for life my chief house with kitchen & garden, 18 acres of land situated near the land of John Sweting senior & another house which Laurence Hamond now holds to farm, after her death to son John & his heirs. Son John remainder of my lands tenements & rents paying 20s/- yearly to his mother."
  
  Research Note
  An family book which does not cite sources says that he (Thomas Bate) was married to a woman named Agnes Gawho was nine years older than him and they had three children, a girl named Julianna in addition to the two boys named William and John Bates. This is an incorrect assumption. There is no evidence of a son named William or a daughter named Juliianna.
  
  They were completely different people. Agnes Gawkrogers was b 21 Jan 1544 Halifax Sowerby, Yorkshire, England, Thomas Bate b. Abt 1539 in Halifax Sowerby, Yorkshire, England.
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  FHLbook "Our Bates Genealogy," by Mary Emma Burt and Robert Eugene Burt (Shawnee Mission, KS; 1993), pp. 13-14:
  "Thomas(E) Bates. Born, 1410, in Lydd, Kent, ENG [Clemens, p. 338]. Died, 1485. Made WILL, the abstract of this WILL was proved and a record of it kept in the Archives of the Cathedral at Canterbury, where all the records of the town of Lydd were deposited prior to the year 1542. Resided in the parish of All Hallows. The abstract of his will as follows: To the Brotherhood of St. John the Baptist 12d. Wife Margaret have all my household things, and son John on large brass pot after the death of his mother. Wife have 2 cows and 7 sheep. with the increase of this year. Exors--wife Margaret and son John. Wife have for life my chief-house with kitchen and garden, 18 acres of land, situated near the land of John Sweting senior, and another house which Laurence Hammond now holds to farm, after her death to son John and his heirs. Son John have remainder of my lands, tenements and rents paying 20/yearly to his mother. Probate 19 April 1486. From Genealogy-A weekly Journal of American Ancestry-October 16, 1912, pp. 337-338. The first of our Bates ancestors, Thomas, John and Andrew were of the Catholic faith, as England was then still of that faith, and the priests and masses and prayers for their souls are mentioned in the early wills.
  He married Margaret (___). Will of Margareta, Relict of Thomas Bate, Sr., 14 October 1490. To the two parish-clerks, 2d. Alice my daughter have my best sheets; Alice Edryk my second sheets. John Bate, senior, that Kytell which now he uses. Juliane wife of William Adam my murray kirtell. Residue after paying debts, etc., for my soul by my exor John Bate, senior. Witnesses. John Waston, Matthes Kayse. Probate 17 January 1491. (vol. 3. fol. 90)
  Children:
  i. John(D) Bates.
  ii. William Bates.
  iii. Alice Bates. Born in Lydd, Kent, ENG [Waters, p. 1304]. She married (___) Edyrk.
  iv. Agnes Bates. Born in Lydd, Kent, ENG [Waters, p. 1304]. She married (___) Beecher.
  References:
  Charles Edward Banks, "Planters of the Commonwealth 1620-40," (Baltimore: Genealogical Publishing Co., 1975).
  Bates Association, Bates Bulletin.
  George E. Bates, "Bates-Breed Ancestry," (Thomas Todd Co., 1975).
  William Montgomery Clemens, "American Marriage Records Before 1699," (Baltimore: Genealogical Publishing Co., 1977)
  Henry R. Plomer, "Index of Wills and Administration now preserved in the Probate Registry at Canterbury, 1396-1558 and 1640-1650." (London, The British Record Society, Limited., 1920).
  Charles Henry Pope, Pioneers of Massachusetts," (Baltimore: Genealogical Publishing Co., 1969).
  Henry F. Waters, "Genealogical Gleanings in England" (Baltimore: Genealogical Publishing Co., 1969), I, p.21-23, 1301."
  
  === 700 Years of Bates Family History ===
  https://www.yumpu.com/en/document/view/21006694/700-years-of-bates-family-history-garrett-family-genealogy

• m. ABT 1459 in Lydd, Kent, England

1. John Bate, b. 1461 in Lydd, Kent, England     d. ABT 7 JUL 1522 in Lydd, Kent, England

1. Title: Thomas Bates Gravesite
   Author: www.findagrave.com
   Publication: Name: https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/35339216/thomas-bate;
   
2. Title: Ancestry Family Trees
   Author: Ancestry Family Tree
   
3. Title: Web: International, Find A Grave Index
   Publication: Name: https://search.ancestry.com/collections/70699/records/517395;
   
4. Title: Encyclopedia of Massachusetts, Biographical--genealogical, Volume 6
   Publication: Name: https://books.google.com/books?newbks=1&newbks_redir=0&id=uEIDAAAAYAAJ&q=Bates#v=snippet&q=Bates&f=false;
   
5. Title: 700 Years of Bates Family History
   Author: Please see: 700 Years of Bates Family History for more information. https://www.yumpu.com/en/document/view/21006694/700-years-of-bates-family-history-garrett-family-genealogy
   Publication: Name: https://www.yumpu.com/en/document/view/21006694/700-years-of-bates-family-history-garrett-family-genealogy;
   Note: Please see: 700 Years of Bates Family History for more information. https://www.yumpu.com/en/document/view/21006694/700-years-of-bates-family-history-garrett-family-genealogy
   
6. Title: The Bates Bulletin, Wills of Thomas Bates, Sr
   Publication: Name: https://archive.org/stream/batesbulletin215bate#page/93/mode/1up;
   
7. Title: British Chancery Records, 1386-1558
   Publication: Name: https://search.ancestry.com/collections/7919/records/8746;
   
8. Title: Bates: An Ancient Family Name
   Publication: Name: https://books.google.ca/books?id=x2LJCgAAQBAJ&pg=PT30&lpg=PT30&dq#v=onepage&q&f=false;
   
9. Title: UK and Ireland, Find A Grave Index, 1300s-Current
   Publication: Name: https://search.ancestry.com/collections/60526/records/300955;
   
10. Title: Millennium File
    Publication: Name: https://search.ancestry.com/collections/7249/records/10699919;