Michael Matthew Groat PhD's Genealogical Database
Individuals: 97,713 Families: 61,838
Gedcom Last Modified: December 14, 2025 00:59:10
John Stanley KG
- Preferred Name: John Stanley KG[1] [2] [3] [4] [5] [6] [7]
- Alternate Name: John Stanley
- Gender: M
- Lord+Lieutenant+of+Ireland: with note: Description: In 1413, King Henry V sent him to serve again as Lieutenant of Ireland.
- National Identification: with note: Description: IND3495
- Birth: 1 NOV 1362 in Newton, Cheshire, England at LATI: N3.131 LONG: E2.7429 with note: myheritage
- Death: 6 JAN 1414 in Ardee, County Louth, Ireland at LATI: N3.8595 LONG: E6.5397
- Burial: AFT 6 JAN 1414 in Burscough, Lancashire, England at LATI: N3.6 LONG: E2.8667
- Cause+of+Death: with note: Description: he died at Ardee, County Louth, Ireland, after being satirised by the O'Higgins' of Meath for despoiling the lands and raiding the cows of Niall O'Higgins. He lasted but five weeks, according to the Four Masters, before succumbing "to the virulence)
- Occupation: Knight of the Garter
- Tenure+of+the+Isle+of+Man+: 1405 with note: Description: He was granted the tenure of the Isle of Man that had been confiscated from Henry Percy, 1st Earl of Northumberland.
- FSID: LRNJ-Y7X
- Notes:
=== Life Sketch ===
Our royal, titled, noble and commoner ancestors
Sir John Stanley, Lord Lieutenant & Justiciary of Ireland, Justice of Chester, Governor of the City & County of Chester, Constable of Windsor Castle1,2,3,4
Last Edited 4 Apr 2020
M, #10924, b. 1350, d. 6 January 1414
Father Sir William Stanley, Lord Stanley and Hooton2,3,4 d. Jun 1398
Mother Alice Massey2,3,4
Sir John Stanley, Lord Lieutenant & Justiciary of Ireland, Justice of Chester, Governor of the City & County of Chester, Constable of Windsor Castle was born in 1350 at of Latham & Knowsley, Derbyshire, Stanley, Staffordshire, England.
He married Isabel Lathom, daughter of Sir Thomas de Lathom and Joan Venables, before December 1385;
They had 4 sons (Sir John; Henry; Thomas, a cleric; & Sir Ralph) and 2 daughters (Margaret, wife of Adam Ireland; & Isabel).2,3,4
Sir John Stanley, Lord Lieutenant & Justiciary of Ireland, Justice of Chester, Governor of the City & County of Chester, Constable of Windsor Castle and Isabel Lathom obtained a marriage license in 1398; Date of Dispensation to remain married, they being related in the 3rd and 4th degrees.2
Sir John Stanley, Lord Lieutenant & Justiciary of Ireland, Justice of Chester, Governor of the City & County of Chester, Constable of Windsor Castle died on 6 January 1414 at Ardee, Ireland; Buried at Burscough Priory, Lancashire.2,3,4
Family
Isabel Lathom b. c 1365, d. 26 Oct 1414
Children
Henry Stanley2
Sir Ralph Stanley
Sir John de Stanley, Justice of Chester, Sheriff of Anglesey, Lord of the Isle of Man+2,3,4 b. c 1386, d. 27 Nov 1437
Sir Thomas Stanley, Sheriff of Warwickshire, Leicestershire, & Staffordshire+5,3,6,4 b. c 1392, d. 13 May 1463
Margaret Stanley m Adam of Ireland
Isabel Stanley
Big Bad John
“Big Bad John”
This Sir John Stanley was Lord-Deputy of Ireland sometime in the 14th century. He was also nicknamed by myself, his 19th generation grandson,"Big Bad John". According to the book, Hous
STANLEY FAMILY HISTORY FOLLOWS:
STANLEY FAMILY
17 March 2017
Ireland, England, New England
(More Stanley’s before 1362)
(All stories taken from Ancestry.com)
The Stanley Clan:
(http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~st
History
Sir John Stanley, who married Isabel, the only daughter and heiress of Sir Thomas Latham, of Latham, in the county of Lancaster; and from him bring down the issue and descendants of that colateral bra
=== GIVEN NAMES: Also shown as John ===
GIVEN NAMES: Also shown as John
ID: Merged with a record that used the ID 39693
BIRTH: Also shown as Born 1362
=== !AKA: Sir John Stanley, Knight of the Ga ===
!AKA: Sir John Stanley, Knight of the Garter, 1413 - Doc. Line 57-34 Lord Lieutenant of Ireland, 1385 - Doc. Line 57-34 Constable of Rokesbergh, Scotland - Doc. Line 57-34 Constabel of Windsor Castle - Doc. Line 57-34 Steward of the King's Household - Doc. Line 57-34 !BIRTH: Date: 1350 - Doc. Line 57-34 !DEATH: Date: January 6, 1413/1414 - Doc. Line 57-34 Place: Ardee, Ireland - Doc. Line 57-34 !MARRIAGE: Sir John Stanley Lord and Isabel de Lathom - Doc. Line 57-34 Date: ca. 1385 - Doc. Line 57-34
=== Sir John de Stanley, KG (c1405), Soverei ===
Sir John de Stanley, KG (c1405), Sovereign Lord of the Isle of Man; Lord Deputy of Ireland for Robert de Vere, Marquess of Dublin 1386-88, Justiciary Ireland 1389-91, Justice of Chester 1394, Controller of Royal Household 1399, Lt Ireland 1399-1401, Steward of Household to Henry Prince of Wales (later Henry V) c1403, Steward Macclesfield and Forester and Ranger of same 1403, Governor of City and County of Chester 1403, granted by Henry IV (it having been forfeited by the Earl of Northumberland) the Isle, Castle, peel and Lordship of Man 1406; Constable of Windsor Castle 1409; Lt Ireland 1413-19. [Burke's Peerage]
-------------------------------------------------------------------------- -----------
JOHN DE STANLEY, younger son.[a] In 1386 and until 1387/8 he was Deputy in Ireland for Robert de Vere, Marquess of Dublin; on 1 August 1389, he was appointed Justiciary of Ireland; on 15 November 1391 he had licence to leave Ireland for 12 years, having held office until some time before 29 April 1391. On 20 August 1389 he received a grant for life of 100 marks a year, having been retained by the King as his knight to serve him above all others. On 28 April 1394 he was appointed Justice of Chester; on 3 October 1397 he was granted by the King an annuity of 40 marks for life; on 4 March 1398/9 he was Controller of the Household. On 10 December 1399 he was appointed Lieutenant of Ireland, and he was still in office on 5 April 1401, but had ceased to hold it on 12 July. However, on 6 February 1401/2 he was about to go to Ireland on the King's service. On 15 August 1403 he was granted certain lands of William de Stanley, "chivaler," his nephew, which had been forfeited for participation in the rebellion of Henry Percy. He was appointed Steward of the Household of Henry, Prince of Wales, before 13 September 1403, when he had a grant for life of the offices of Steward of Macclesfield and Surveyor of the forests of Macclesfield, Mare and Mondrem, co. Chester, and Master Forester and Ranger of the same; and on 16 September 1403 he was appointed Governor of the City and County of Chester. K.G. about 1405 (after 5 December 1404]. On 10 February 1404/5, as the King's Knight, he was granted a general pardon for all debts, &c. On 7 November 1404/5, as Steward of the Household, he was going on the King's service in his company to Wales. On 4 October 1405 William de Stanley, knight, or his lieutenant in the Isle of Man, was ordered to deliver to John de Stanley, knight, or his attorney, the Isle, Castle, peel and lordship of Man; and on 6 April 1406 he was granted the same to himself, his heirs and assigns, with all islands and lordships pertaining thereto, subject to a limit of the value of £400 yearly, to hold with jura regalia, by service of 2 falcons at the Coronation. On 9 February 1406/7, as the King's knight, Steward of the King's Household, he, with his wife Isabel, was granted free warren in the manors of Lathom and Knowsley, &c. co. Lancs. On 3 July 1409 he was granted for life the office of constable of Windsor Castle, with other offices. On 8 June 1413 he was appointed King's Lieutenant of Ireland for six years (j). He married, in or before 1385, Isabel, daughter and heir of Thomas DE LATHOM, of Lathom and Knowsley, Lancs (k). He died before 28 January 1413/4. [Complete Peerage XII/1:248-9, (transcribed by Dave Utzinger)]
[a] In many pedigrees he is placed a generation lower, as son of William son of William son of John, of Wirral, who died 1398, leaving an elder son William, then aged 30. Since John, described as John son of William son of John, was in 1378 pardoned for good service done and to be done in Aquitaine, he cannot have been yr. br. of the William who was aged 30 in 1398; as was pointed out by Ormerod. This John Stanley and his son John are to be distinguished from John Stanley and his son John, who were of the Wirrall or elder branch of the family. John Stanley of Wirrall appears in 1415; in 1427, as the "King's esquire" he was appointed Constable of Carnarvon; and in 1431 to be Serjeant of the King's armoury in the Tower of London. He was later usher of the chamber and sheriff of Anglesey. He appears to have been dead in 1471, when his lands at Battersea, Surrey, and those of his son John were forfeited to the King. He was probably great-nephew to the John Stanley who married Isabel de Lathom.
(j) On 9 June ships were provided for his passage with his men and servants and 1,000 horses.
(k) In 1385 the Duke of Lancaster successfully proceeded against him in Parliament for unlawful entry on the manor of Knowsley, which he claimed as remaining to his wife Isabel in tail. The manor was evidently adjusted, since the manor remained in the Stanley family. On 24 Dec 1398 he obtained a dispensation for the marriage, where it seems to be suggested that his relationship was that of third cousin once removed through the Mascys.
Preferred Parents:
Father: William Stanley, b. 1327 in Cheshire, England d. 1398 in , , Cheshire, England
Mother: Alice Massey, b. 1330 in Timperley, Cheshire, England d. ABT 1419 in Storeton, Cheshire, England
Family 1: Isabel de Lathom, b. 1364 in Lathom St James, Lancashire, England d. 26 OCT 1414 in Knowsley, , Lancashire, England
- m. ABT 1385 in Lancaster, Lancashire, England
- John Stanley, b. 1 NOV 1386 in Lathom, Lancashire, England, United Kingdom d. 27 NOV 1437 in Anslesey, Denbighshire, Wales
- Isabel Stanley, b. ABT 1407 in Cheshire, England d. ABT 1435 in Stockport, Cheshire, England
- Thomas Stanley, b. 1392 in Elford, Staffordshire, England d. 13 MAY 1463 in Elford, , Staffordshire, England
Sources:
- Title: John Stanley in the Web: Netherlands, GenealogieOnline Trees Index, 1000-2015
Publication: Name: https://search.ancestry.com/collections/9289/records/6867535;
Note: Name: John Stanley
Gender: m (Male)
Birth Date: 1358
Birth Place: Lathom, Lancashire
Death Date: 6 jan 1414
Death Place: Ardee, Louth, Ierland
Death Age: 56
Father: Willem Stanley
Mother: Alice Massey
Spouse: Isabelle Lathom
Children: John Lord Stanley
URL: https://www.genealogieonline.n...
- Title: John De Stanley in the Web: Netherlands, GenealogieOnline Trees Index, 1000-2015
Publication: Name: https://search.ancestry.com/collections/9289/records/31778649;
Note: Name: John De Stanley
Gender: m (Male)
Birth Date: 1362
Birth Place: Newton (Near Hyde), Cheshire, England
Death Date: 6 jan 1414
Death Place: Dublin, Ireland
Death Age: 52
Father: William De Stanley
Mother: Alice Massey
Spouse: Isabel Lathom
Children: John De Stanley
URL: https://www.genealogieonline.n...
- Title: Our royal, titled, noble and commoner ancestors
Author: Citations [S2763] Unknown author, The Complete Peerage, by Cokayne, Vol. XII/1, p. 248/9; Magna Charta Sureties, 1215, 4th Ed., by F. L. Weis, p. 116; Burke's Peerage, 1938, p. 784; The Ancestry of Dorothea Poyntz, by Ronny O. Bodine, p. 55. [S5] Douglas Richardson, Plantagenet Ancestry, p. 677-678. [S16] Douglas Richardson, Magna Carta Ancestry, 2nd Edition, Vol. IV, p. 88. [S4] Douglas Richardson, Royal Ancestry, Vol. V, p. 25. [S16] Douglas Richardson, Magna Carta Ancestry, 2nd Edition, Vol. II, p. 104. [S4] Douglas Richardson, Royal Ancestry, Vol. II, p. 486.
Publication: Name: https://our-royal-titled-noble-and-commoner-ancestors.com/p364.htm#i10924;
Note: Our royal, titled, noble and commoner ancestors
Sir John Stanley, Lord Lieutenant & Justiciary of Ireland, Justice of Chester, Governor of the City & County of Chester, Constable of Windsor Castle1,2,3,4
Last Edited 4 Apr 2020
M, #10924, b. 1350, d. 6 January 1414
Father Sir William Stanley, Lord Stanley and Hooton2,3,4 d. Jun 1398
Mother Alice Massey2,3,4
Sir John Stanley, Lord Lieutenant & Justiciary of Ireland, Justice of Chester, Governor of the City & County of Chester, Constable of Windsor Castle was born in 1350 at of Latham & Knowsley, Derbyshire, Stanley, Staffordshire, England.
He married Isabel Lathom, daughter of Sir Thomas de Lathom and Joan Venables, before December 1385;
They had 4 sons (Sir John; Henry; Thomas, a cleric; & Sir Ralph) and 2 daughters (Margaret, wife of Adam Ireland; & Isabel).2,3,4
Sir John Stanley, Lord Lieutenant & Justiciary of Ireland, Justice of Chester, Governor of the City & County of Chester, Constable of Windsor Castle and Isabel Lathom obtained a marriage license in 1398; Date of Dispensation to remain married, they being related in the 3rd and 4th degrees.2
Sir John Stanley, Lord Lieutenant & Justiciary of Ireland, Justice of Chester, Governor of the City & County of Chester, Constable of Windsor Castle died on 6 January 1414 at Ardee, Ireland; Buried at Burscough Priory, Lancashire.2,3,4
Family
Isabel Lathom b. c 1365, d. 26 Oct 1414
Children
Henry Stanley2
Sir Ralph Stanley
Sir John de Stanley, Justice of Chester, Sheriff of Anglesey, Lord of the Isle of Man+2,3,4 b. c 1386, d. 27 Nov 1437
Sir Thomas Stanley, Sheriff of Warwickshire, Leicestershire, & Staffordshire+5,3,6,4 b. c 1392, d. 13 May 1463
Margaret Stanley m Adam of Ireland
Isabel Stanley
- Title: Magna Carta Ancestry: A Study in Colonial and Medieval Families, 2nd Edition
Author: page 88
Publication: Name: https://books.google.com/books?id=8JcbV309c5UC&pg=RA3-PA89&lpg=RA3-PA89&dq=john+stanley+%2B+isabel+lathom+%2B+magnacarta&source=bl&ots=kvpJPSKSd5&sig=DBxNkQ8r5pB-eNmDBeQkw_NZbsc&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjQzZTmgajSAhUB7mMKHZDlBDoQ6AEIODAG#v=onepage&q=john%20stanley%20%2B%20isabel%20lathom%20%2B%20magnacarta&f=false;
Note: Gives details of John and wife Isabel Lathom etc...
- Title: Wikipedia -John Stanley, Lord Lt of Ireland, titular King of Mann
Author: John Stanley, Dictionary of National Biography Lundy, Darryl. "p. 24749 § 247484". The Peerage.[unreliable source] Montague-Smith, P.W. (ed.), Debrett's Peerage, Baronetage, Knightage and Companionage, Kelly's Directories Ltd, Kingston-upon-Thames, 1968, p. 344, Stanley, Earl of Derby Collectanea Topographica et Genealogica, "On the Stanley Legend and Family of Lathom"[1] Rolls of 9 Richard II – Part II. Membrane 1, cont. 18 June 1386 Westminister {as before Membrane 6, 163 Patent Roll 10 Richard II "34" (18 September 1386) RCH 131/31 – see Trinity College Dublin, The University of Dublin. CIRCLE A Calendar of Irish Chancery Letters c. 1244–1509: http://chancery.tcd.ie/document/patent/10-richard-ii/34 Breeze, Andrew (Spring 2004). "Sir John Stanley (c. 1350–1414) and the Gawain-Poet". Arthuriana. 14 (1): 15–30. doi:10.1353/art.2004.0032. Retrieved 29 March 2018.
Publication: Name: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sir_John_Stanley_(died_1414);
Note: Sir John Stanley, KG (c. 1350–1414) of Lathom, near Ormskirk in Lancashire, was Lord Lieutenant of Ireland and titular King of Mann, the first of that name. He married a wealthy heiress, Isabel Lathom, which, combined with his own great abilities, allowed him to rise above the usual status of a younger son.
Origins
He was the second son of Sir William Stanley of Stourton,[1]) by his wife Alice Massey of Timperley, Cheshire. Sir William Stanley was Master-Forester of the Forest of Wirral and was notorious for his repressive activities.
Marriage and children
Arms of Lathom of Lathom: Or, on a chief indented azure three plates. Quartered by Stanley, Earls of Derby
In 1385 he married Isabel Lathom, daughter and heiress of Sir Thomas Lathom of Lathom in Lancashire, a great landowner in south-west Lancashire. The marriage took place despite the opposition of John of Gaunt, 1st Duke of Lancaster and gave Stanley great wealth he could never have hoped for as the younger son.[1] By his wife, he had four sons and two daughters, including:[2]
Sir John Stanley (died 1437), eldest son and heir;
Henry Stanley;
Thomas Stanley;
Ralph Stanley
Crest of Lathom
Heraldic crest of Lathom: An eagle wings extended or preying on a child proper swaddled gules in a cradle laced or,[3] adopted by Sir John Stanley and his descendants the Earls of Derby
The heraldic crest of Lathom (An eagle wings extended or preying on a child proper swaddled gules in a cradle laced or[3]) was adopted by Sir John Stanley and his descendants. An ancient myth ("the Stanley Legend"), of several varieties, is attached to the image depicted, one given by Thomas Stanley (died circa 1568), Bishop of Sodor and Man being that the "Lord of Lathom" was issueless and aged "fowerscore" adopted an infant "swaddled and clad in a mantle of redd," which an eagle brought unhurt to her nest in Terlestowe wood, and which he named Oskell, and made heir of Lathom, where he became the father of Isabel Stanley, stolen away in the first instance by her knight, and afterwards forgiven by Sir Oskell". [4] The Stanley crest is today memorialised in the name of several English public houses displaying the sign of "The Eagle and Child", often situated within manors once held by the Stanley family.
Career
Declared an outlaw
Both John Stanley and his elder brother, William Stanley (who succeeded their father as Master-Forester), were involved in criminal cases which charged them with a forced entry in 1369 and with the murder of Thomas Clotton in 1376.[1] Conviction for the murder of Clotton resulted in Stanley being declared an outlaw. However, he was already distinguishing himself in military service in the French wars, and he was pardoned in 1378 at the insistence of his commander, Sir Thomas Trivet.[1]
Justiciar of Ireland
The year 1386 saw his first appointment in Ireland as deputy to Robert de Vere, Duke of Ireland. This occurred because of the insurrection created by the friction between Sir Philip Courtenay, the English Lieutenant of Ireland, and his appointed governor James Butler, 3rd Earl of Ormond. Stanley led an expedition to Ireland on behalf of de Vere and King Richard II to quell it. He was accompanied by Bishop Alexander de Balscot of Meath and Sir Robert Crull.[5] Butler joined them upon their arrival in Ireland. Because of the success of the expedition, Stanley was appointed to the position of Lord Lieutenant of Ireland, Alexander to Chancellor, Crull to Treasurer, and Butler to his old position as Governor.[6] In 1389 Richard II appointed him Justiciar of Ireland, a post he held until 1391. He was heavily involved in Richard's first expedition to Ireland in 1394–1395.[1]
Throughout the 1390s he was involved in placating possible rebellion in Cheshire.[1] Between 1396 and 1398 he served as Captain of Roxburgh Castle. He took part in Richard II's expedition to Ireland in 1399. However, on his return to England, Stanley, who had long proved adept at political manoeuvring, turned his back on Richard and submitted to King Henry IV,[1] the first of the House of Lancaster.
Under the Lancastrians
Stanley's fortunes were equally good under the Lancastrians. He was granted lordships in the Welsh Marches, and served a term as Lieutenant of Ireland. In 1403 he was made Steward of the Household of Henry, Prince of Wales, (later Henry V). Unlike many of the Cheshire gentry, he took the side of the king in the rebellion of the Percys. He was wounded in the throat at the Battle of Shrewsbury.[1]
In 1405 he was granted the tenure of the Isle of Man, which had been confiscated from the rebellious Henry Percy, 1st Earl of Northumberland.[1] In this period he also became Steward of the Household to King Henry IV, and was appointed by him a Knight of the Garter. In 1413 King Henry V of England sent him to serve once more as Lieutenant of Ireland.
Death and burial
In 1414 he died at Ardee, County Louth, Ireland, after being satirised by the O'Higgins' of Meath for despoiling the lands and raiding the cows of Niall O'Higgins. He lasted but five weeks, according to the Four Masters, before succumbing "to the virulence of the lampoons". His body was returned to his home at Lathom and was buried at Burscough Priory near Ormskirk,[1] about 3 miles south-west of Lathom. This was deemed in some quarters the second such "Poet's Miracle" performed by the O'Higgins.
Offices
During his career Stanley held the following offices:-
Lord Lieutenant of Ireland between 1386 and 1388.
Justiciary Ireland between 1389 and 1391.
Justice of Chester in 1394
Controller of the Royal Household in 1399
Lieutenant of Ireland between 1399 and 1401
Steward of the Household to the Prince of Wales circa 1403, later King Henry V
Surveyor of the Forests of Macclesfield, Mare and Mondrem, Cheshire in 1403
Governor of the City and County of Cheshire in 1403
He was invested as a Knight, Order of the Garter (K.G.) circa 1405
Steward of Macclesfield in 1406
He was granted the Isle, Castle, Peel and Lordship of Mann, by King Henry IV of England
Sovereign Lord of the Isle of Man in 1406
Constable of Windsor Castle in 1409
Lord Lieutenant of Ireland (second term) from 1413 until his death in 1414.
Poet
It has been suggested that Stanley was the as-yet unidentified "Gawain Poet". The Garter motto "Honi soit qui mal y pense" appears at the end of Sir Gawain and the Green Knight, and the poet exhibits a detailed knowledge of both hunting and armour. Scholars identify the poet's dialect as that of north-west Staffordshire or south-east Cheshire.[7]
Page: John Stanley in Wikipedia ~https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sir_John_Stanley_(died_1414) [See document in the memories section]
- Title: Dictionary of National Biography, Volumes 1-22
Author: Stephen, Sir Leslie, ed.; London, England: Oxford University Press; Dictionary of National Biography, Volumes 1-20, 22; Volume: Vol 22; Page: 1236
Publication: Name: https://search.ancestry.com/collections/1981/records/10106207;
- Title: John De Stanley in the Web: Netherlands, GenealogieOnline Trees Index, 1000-2015
Publication: Name: https://search.ancestry.com/collections/9289/records/15441735;
Note: Name: John De Stanley
Gender: m (Male)
Death Date: 1414
Spouse: Isabel De Lathom
Children: John De Stanley
Thomas De Stanley
URL: https://www.genealogieonline.n...
Master Index
| Pedigree Chart
| Descendency Chart
Please send genealogical corrections, additions, or comments to Michael Matthew Groat PhD
Created by GIMMWebService Version 1.0.3 (Program Information), Copyright 2023 © Michael Groat
(Web design layout and pedigree indentation subroutine) Copyright 1996 © Randy Winch (gumby@edge.net) and Tim Doyle (tdoyle@doit.com)
(Internal GEDCOM data structures and GEDCOM file parsing) Copyright 2014-2021 © Giulio Genovese (giulio.genovese@gmail.com)
Like the program that you see? Any support is appreciated!
