Thomas Astley III

• Preferred Name: Thomas Astley III^[1]
  
• Gender: M
  
• Death: ABT 1423 in Melton Constable, Norfolk, England at LATI: N2.8413 LONG: E0.0292
  
• http://familysearch.org/v1/TitleOfNobility: Sir
  
• Birth: ABT 1384 in Hillmorton, Warwickshire, England at LATI: N2.3621 LONG: E1.2203
  
• FSID: GSRS-CQW
  
• Notes:

  === Life Sketch ===
  From https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Astley-37
  Thomas Astley
  Born about 1384 in Hillmorton, Warwickshire, England
  ANCESTORS
  Son of Thomas Astley and Catherine (Bacon) Astley
  Husband of Isabel (Oak) Astley
  Husband of Elizabeth (Dacre) Astley — married 1407 in Hillmorton, Warwickshire, , England
  DESCENDANTS
  Father of Ann Astley and John Astley
  Died about 1423 in Melton Constable, Norfolk, England
  
  Biography
  The Essex visitation pedigree makes this Thomas the son of a John and grandson of a famous knight also named John, giving chronological problems.
  
  Blomefield gives quite different information to the Essex pedigree:
  
  "In the 18th of Richard II. Thomas de Astley, son and heir of Sir Thomas, granted in trust, this manor, to Sir Robert Carbonel, and sealed with the cinquefoil, in a bordure ingrailed; and after, in the 3d of Henry V. to Sir Simon Felbrigg, Sir Robert de Berney, and Sir Edmund de Oldhall, this, with other manors, and was living in the year 1422, when he and Isabel his wife presented to this church."
  "He married two wives; Elizabeth, the first, was daughter of— Dacres, who bore gules, 3 escallops, argent; his 2d was Isabel, daughter of Jeffrey Okes, of Shrubland in Suffolk, and bore sable, on a fess, between six acorns, argent, three oak leaves, vert."
  "By Isabel he had John his son and heir, who took to wife Elizabeth, daughter of Sir Edward Witchingham; by his will, dated April 8, 1475, (fn. 5) and proved June 23 following, it appears that he had 2 sons, Thomas and Robert, a daughter, Alice, married to John Calthorp, Esq. and a daughter, Constantia, to whom he bequeaths 40l. his manor of Melton to his executors for 2 years, to perform his will, and his body to be buried in the church of the Carmes at Blakeney."[1]
  Dugdale,[2] who Blomefield cites, only deals with the main Warwickshire line in detail, not the Norfolk line which Blomefield focuses on, but in effect it seems that the Essex visitation places a Norfolk Astley into that main Warwiskshire line? (The first page shows the Norfolk line of Hillmorton and Melton Constable. The second page however ends with two generations from these same places, suddenly on another branch of the family tree.)[3]
  
  Blomefield, comparing to the Essex visitation, makes the Thomas who married a Dacre the son of Thomas who married (as his second wife) a Katherine Bacon. The Essex pedigree has this man, but with no son named Thomas.
  
  Sources
  ↑ BLOMEFIELD, Francis, Volume 9, Holt hundred: Melton Constable: pp. 415-426.
  ↑ DUGDALE, William, The Baronage of England, Vol I, Page 669
  ↑ METCALFE, Walter C. editor, Visitations of Essex Miscellaneous Pedigrees, Part II, Page 541
  BLOMEFIELD, Francis, Topographical History of the County of Norfolk: Volume 9 (London, 1808), British History Online [accessed 29 Jul 2018].
  METCALFE, Walter C. editor, The Visitations of Essex (Hawley, 1552; Hervey, 1558; Cooke, 1570; Raven, 1612; and Owen and Lilly, 1634), Part I, Vol 13;
  METCALFE, Walter C. editor,The Visitations of Essex Miscellaneous Pedigrees and Berry's Pedigrees (1838), Part II, Vol 14; (London, Harleian Society, 1879)
  DUGDALE, William, The baronage of England, Vol I, (London, Thomas Newcomb, 1675)
  DUGDALE, William. The Antiquities of Warwickshire Illustrated, Vol 1 of 2 Volumes, 2nd edition (London, Printed for J. Osborn and T. Longman, 1730) Page 19

• m. ABT 1413 in Hillmorton, Warwickshire, England

1. John Astley Esq., b. ABT 1423 in Melton Constable, Norfolk, England     d. BEF JUN 1475 in Melton Constable, Norfolk, England

1. Title: Thomas Astley - 2 sources
   Author: Ancestry
   Publication: Name: https://www.ancestry.com/family-tree/person/tree/106679413/person/370101346244/facts;
   Note: 1385–1413 BIRTH 1385 • Hillmorton, Warwickshire DEATH 1413 • Hillmorton, Warwickshire, England LifeStory Facts Gallery Skip to SourcesShow Facts Name and gender Birth 1385 • Hillmorton, Warwickshire 1 Source 1385 (AGE) Marriage 1407 • Hillmorton, Warwickshire, England Elisabeth Dacre (1390–) 1407 22 Death 1413 • Hillmorton, Warwickshire, England 1413 28 Skip to Family Sources Ancestry Sources Ancestry Family Trees England & Wales, Christening Index, 1530-1980 Web: Netherlands, GenealogieOnline Trees Index, 1000-2015 Search on Ancestry Skip to Facts Family Parents Unknown Father Unknown Mother Spouse & Children Elisabeth Dacre 1390– Anna Astley 1408–1473 John Astley II 1414– Marye Astley