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Alexander de Seton 1st Lord Gordon
- Preferred Name: Alexander de Seton 1st Lord Gordon[1] [2] [3] [4] [5] [6]
- Alternate Name: Seton of Winton
- Gender: M
- Fact: with note: Description: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alexander_Seton,_Lord_Gordon
- http://familysearch.org/v1/TitleOfNobility: Sir
- Title (Nobility): with note: Description: Earl of Huntly
- FSID: LTYF-DNQ
- Clan Name: with note: Description: Clan Seton
- Fact: with note: Description: With his marriage to Elizabeth Gordon, the only surviving child of her father Adam de Gordon, he took the title of Lord of Gordon and was given lands inheritied by Elizabeth including the Huntly Castle and the title of Huntly. His son, Ale
- Nickname:
- Birth: 1381 in Aberdeenshire, Scotland with note: Removed UK. Didn't exist then.
- Life Sketch: with note: Description: Sir Alexander Seton was the son of Sir William de Seton and Janet Fleming.2 He married Elizabeth Gordon, daughter of Sir Adam Gordon of that Ilk and Elizabeth Keith, from 27 March 1408 to 20 July 1408.2 He died between 31 August 1440 and 3 April 1441 at Strathbogie, Scotland.
He gained the title of Lord of Huntly.2 He gained the title of Lord of Gordon.2 On 20 July 1408 he was confirmed in the lands of Gordon and Huntly, which he acquired through his wife. Circa 1437 Burkes states he was doubtfully created a Lord of Parliament as Lord Gordon.
Children of Sir Alexander Seton and Elizabeth Gordon
1. Elizabeth Seton
2. William Seton of Meldrum d. May 1452
3. Alexander Gordon, 1st Earl of Huntly b. c 1409, d. 15 Jul 1470
The Gordons of Sutherland and Gordons of Huntly ancestry of Lady Mary Heron (nee McGeoch)
NOTE: The Life Sketch Info. above reflects the research of B. Phillips, Dr. Margaret Heron Selkirk, Dr. Liam Selkirk, et al, for their book : "The Heron & Bromfield Intrigue - Vols. 1, 2, & 3, from years of research on the ancestry of the "Jamaican Herons and their connection to Ford Castle, Chipchase Castle, Etal Castle (Northumberland),Heron House (Essex), Shacklewell Hall (Kent), Rycote (Oxfordshire), Cressy Hall, Surfleet Estate (Lincolnshire) Kirroughtree Estate. Bargaly Estate, Palnur Estate (Dumfries & Galloway), Heron House (Ayrshire); Wigton, Shooter's Hill, Williamsfield Great House (Jamaica) among many others over England, Scotland and Jamaical and the connections to the Huntingdon/Bruce/Stewart/Gordon/Drummond families and the Ruthven/Wemyss* families.
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- Fact: with note: Description: See Burke's Peerage under "SETON of Pitmedden" & Brian Tompsett at http://www.dcs.hull.ac
- Burial: 1441 in Scotland
- Fact: with note: Description: https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Seton-5
- Death: 3 APR 1441 in Huntly, Aberdeenshire, Scotland at LATI: N7.448 LONG: E2.7873
- Notes:
=== Life Sketch ===
When Sir Alexander de Seton 1st Lord Gordon was born in January 1382, in Aberdeenshire, Scotland, his father, William Wyntoun-Seton, was 39 and his mother, Janet Fleming, was 31. He married Lady Elizabeth Gordon Heiress of Gordon in March 1401, in Huntly, Aberdeenshire, Scotland. They were the parents of at least 4 sons and 1 daughter. He died on 3 April 1441, in Huntly, Aberdeenshire, Scotland, at the age of 59, and was buried in Scotland.
Alexander Seton, Lord Gordon (Wikipedia)
Alexander Seton was the second son of Sir William Seton of Seton and his wife, Janet Fleming. When King Robert III of Scotland sent his only remaining son, the future king James I of Scotland to Franc
Seton and Gordon
The chief line of the Gordons was merged with the family of Seton with the ca 1408 marriage of Alexander Seton (died 1441) and Elizabeth Gordon (died 1438-9). Their son Alexander (died ca 1470), creat
=== L.D.S. Pedigree Resource Disc 21 ===
L.D.S. Pedigree Resource Disc 21
=== 1st Earl of Huntly ===
1st Earl of Huntly
=== !SOURCE: Sir Robert Douglas of Glenberv ===
!SOURCE: Sir Robert Douglas of Glenbervie, Bart., THE PEERAGE OF SCOTLAND, Vol. 2, Second Edition, John Philip Wood, Esq., Editor, Edinburgh, 1813, p. 9.
=== In 1408 Sir John Gordon, last in the mal ===
In 1408 Sir John Gordon, last in the male line of the Gordons of Huntlyand Strathbogie, was succeeded by his sister Elizabeth, who in that yearmarried Sir Alexander Seton. Either of these two gentlemen could havebeen responsible for the erection of the new stone tower house, on thenorth side of the bailey, to replace the out-dated timber castle builtover 200 years before. In 1436 Sir Alexander was created first LordGordon, and either in 1445 or 1449 his son, also Alexander, was madefirst earl of Huntly. His descendants have held Huntly Castle ever since.[Huntly Castle, p. 5] BURR LINE Son of William Seton and Janet Fleming;m. Elizabeth Gordon. [Darlene Chatfield Name Prefix: Sir. Name Suffix:Baron REFN: HWS42549 Ancestral File Number: 9BFQ-X6 OBJE:C:\LEGACY\PICTURES\C_baron1.GIF
=== Elizabeth/Crichton * ===
Elizabeth/Crichton *
=== !#21-v6-p675/676*; !possibly 1st Baron G ===
!#21-v6-p675/676*; !possibly 1st Baron Gordon; assumed surname of GORDON in lieu of SETON;
=== !#21-v12-p547fn(h); !& of Huntly, Berwic ===
!#21-v12-p547fn(h); !& of Huntly, Berwick;
=== Alexander Seton was the second son of Si ===
Alexander Seton was the second son of Sir William Seton.
=== Lord of Gordon and Huntley ===
Lord of Gordon and Huntley
=== PEDIGREE RESOURCE FILE VOL 6, LDS GENEAL ===
PEDIGREE RESOURCE FILE VOL 6, LDS GENEALOGICAL SOCIETY;
=== Alexander Seton later Gordon (c1457), 1s ===
Alexander Seton later Gordon (c1457), 1st Earl of Huntly, so created between 30 Oct 1444 and 3 July 1445; had Crown grants of territorial Lordship of Badenoch (1451) and other lands in Inverness-shire and Morayshire; inherited from his grandmother Elizabeth: Aboyne, Cluny, and Glenmuick, Aberdeenshire. [Burke's Peerage]
1st Earl Of Huntley
=== From Ancestral File (TM), data as of 2 J ===
From Ancestral File (TM), data as of 2 January 1996.
=== ALEXANDER SETON, younger brother of Sir ===
ALEXANDER SETON, younger brother of Sir John Seton, ancestor of the Earls of Wintoun [SCT), 2nd and youngest son of William Seton of that ilk, by Janet, daughter of Sir David FLEMING, was at the battle of Harlaw, 24 July 1411; in the wars with France, 1421; one of the Commissioners to treat of, and one of the hostages (1424) for the ransom of James I from England, by whom, probably about 1435, he is by some considered to have been created LORD GORDON [SCT], a Lord of Parliament. He married between 27 March 1407/8 and 20 July 1408, Elizabeth, sister and heir of John GORDON, and only daughter of Sir Adam GORDON, of Gordon and Huntly (slain at the battle of Homildon Hill, 14 September 1402), by Elizabeth, daughter of Sir William KEITH, Marischal of Scotland, and acquired with her the lands of Gordon and Huntly, which were confirmcd to them, 20 July 1408. He died between 31 August 1440 and 3 April 1441. She died 16 March 1438/9, at Strathbogie, and was buried at Aberdeen. [Complete Peerage V:458-9]
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The chief line of the Gordons thus merged in the family of Seton, as Alexander Seton was the second or younger son of Sir William Seton of Seton by Janet Fleming, daughter of Sir David Fleming. A witness in 1437 testified that she was the mother of Alexander Seton, whom it was proposed to marry to his cousin, Elizabeth Erskine, who, however, married David Wemyss of Reres in 1398. He is said to have been the instigator of the murder, on 14 February 1405-6, of Sir David Fleming of Biggar. After his marriage, Alexander Seton is styled Lord of Gordon, and he took an active part in the public affairs of his day. He fought at the battle of Harlaw in 1411. Later he received the rank of knighthood, before 1419, and in 1421-22 he went to France, and while there he visited King James, who was then in that country. When that monarch was restored to his own country, Seton, who had negotiated for his release, was one of the first hostages for him, but was released in June 1425, after a year's sojourn in England. In that year, on 6 December, he had a charter from Alexander Stewart, Earl of Mar, of half the lands of Culclarochy and part of Gerry in the barony of Crumblade. In 1431, 1437, 1438, and 1439 he was in England on embassies and is referred to as receiving gifts.
A well-known Peerage writer expresses the opinion that Sir Alexander Seton was, about 1436 or later, created a Lord of Parliament as Lord Gordon. 'The existence of this barony of Grodon in 1437,' we are told, 'is fixed by legal evidence recovered from the Gray Charter-chest, which, besides styling Alexander Seton (son and heir-apparent of the first Peer) a noble and potent Lord, also gives him the title of Master of Gordon,' etc. On the same page, however, the writer tells us that at this period the words 'noble Lord' does not alone implay a baronial Peerage or lordship of Parliament, so that we cannot lay stress on a writ of 26 November 1436, where 'a nobles and potent lady, Elizabeth, spouse of a noble and potent lord, Alexander of Seton, Lord of Gordon,' is referred to, not on the fact that 'a noble lord, Schir Alexander, Lord of Gordon,' first appends his seal on the part of the barons after the Earl of Douglas to an agreement in Parliament between the Queen and the Livingstons, dated 4 September 1439. But if in a writ in the Gray Charter-chest of 14 October 1437 the younger Alexander Seton appears as 'Magister de Gordon,' another writ a fortnight later, 2 November 1437, simply describes him as son and heir of his father. It is evidently the son who bears the same designation of Master of Gordon as a witness in two writs not referred to by Riddell dated the first on 20, and the second 26, February 1439-40. The elder Alexander is nowhere styled 'Lord Gordon,' but always 'Lord of Gordon,' and in 1455-56, many years after his death, he is referred to as 'the late Dominus Alexander de Seton de Gordon, miles,' which was also his designation in 1419 and 1429. Further, his son, though as stated he is styled in some writs as 'Sir Alexander Seton, Knight, son of Sir Alexander Seton, Lord of Gordon.' or as Sir Alexander Seton of Tullibody. Even after his succession to the assumed title, the son is never designed Lord Gordon between 1441 and 1445, but as Sir Alexander Seton of Gordon, and in 1446 he is described by the same style, with the addition 'now Earl of Huntly.' The creation of the title of Lord Gordon therefore appears to be doubtful, and the title of Earl was probably the first in the family.
Sir Alexander died between 31 August 1440 and 3 April 1441, when his son was in possession. Elizabeth Gordong predeceased him on 16 March 1438-39, dying at Strathbogie and was buried in St Nicholas' Chruch in Aberdeen. [The Scots Peerage IV:518-521]
=== He aided Charles VII of France, against ===
He aided Charles VII of France, against the English. Was one of the hostages for the ransom of James I of Scotland, who, for his good services, created him Earl of Huntly, 1449. Suceeded to the estates of his prodescessors. He fought against the Douglases and Crawfords. Suceeded his father who were rebels against James II.
Preferred Parents:
Father: William Seton 1st Lord Seton, b. 1360 in Seton, Haddingtonshire, Scotland d. 17 AUG 1424 in Verneuil-sur-Avre, Eure, Normandy, France
Mother: Janet Fleming Baroness Of Seton, b. 1351 in Biggar, South Lanarkshire, Scotland d. 1430 in Seton, East Lothian, Scotland
Family 1: Elizabeth Gordon -Heiress Of Gordon, b. 1384 in Huntly, Aberdeenshire, Scotland d. 16 MAR 1438 in Huntly, Aberdeenshire, Scotland
- m. 1401 in Huntly, Aberdeenshire, Scotland
- Alexander Seton Gordon, 1st Earl of Huntly Lord of Gordon and Badenoch, b. 1410 in Huntly, Aberdeenshire, Scotland d. 15 JUL 1470 in Huntly Castle, Huntly, Aberdeenshire, Scotland
Sources:
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- Title: Wikitree -biography
Author: Sources ↑ Registrum de Panmure Vol.ii 230 see [1] ↑ Fordun, vol. II. p. 439. Note Crawford's account is incorrect ↑ RMS Vol.i 898 see [2] ↑ RMS Vol.i 905 see [3] ↑ Antiq. Aberdeen,etc., iv. 181. ↑ Exch, Rolls, iv. Pref. Ixxxiv. ↑ NRS GD205/20/67 see [4] ↑ RMS Vol.ii 320 see [5] ↑ Seton, Bruce Gordon, Sir : The House Of Seton. A Study Of Lost Causes : Free Download, Borrow, And Streaming : Internet Archive". 2021. Internet Archive.Henry Seton, Vol II, pg 382
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Note: Alexander Seton was the son of Sir William de Seton and Janet Fleming.[1]
He was of age in 1406 when it is said he instigated the murder of his uncle or grandfather (the relationship is in doubt), Sir David Fleming of Biggar. Fleming, a loyal supporter of the Crown was with James, then Prince of Scotland, at the Bass Rock in February 1406, when he escaped Scotland. Fleming ensured he was safely on board the ship appointed to carry him to France, although that ship never made it and James was captured and imprisoned by the English. Fleming returning home was attacked at Longherdmanston, six miles out of Edinburgh, on the 14 February 1406, by the Duke of Albany's men and killed. The men, placed under the command of Sir James Douglas of Abercorn, second son of the Earl of Douglas, and at the instigation ("provocatus per Alexandrum de Seton"), it is said, of his own grandson, Alexander Seton, "qui postea fuit dominus de Gordon" (who later was the Lord of Gordon).[2]
On 27 March 1408, his father purchased the ward of Elizabeth Gordon daughter of deceased Sir Adam Gordon of that Ilk and Elizabeth Keith and heiress to her brother John Gordon. [3] His father offered her to his eldest son but he declined. Alexander accepted and within a few months Alexander had married Elizabeth Gordon as as on 20 July 1408 she and her husband received from the Regent Albany a charter of the lands of Gordon and others.[4]
After his marriage, Alexander Seton is styled Lord of Gordon. He played an active part in the public affairs of his day. He fought at the battle of Harlaw in 1411. Later he received the rank of knighthood, before 1419, [5]
He went to France in 1421/1422.[6]
On 18 January 1429/30, William Douglas, Earl of Angus, granted a Precept of sasine in favour of Alexander Seton of Gordon, of lands of Newton, Herdhill, Balbridie, Kynnordy, Mains and Easter Lednathy.
Five years later, on 15 January 1434/35 Alexander Seton of Gordon granted these lands in favour of Alexander Ogilvy, son and heir of John Ogilvy of Inverquharity, [7] This was witnessed Sir Walter Ogilvy of Lintrathen; Andrew Ogilvy of Inchmartin; David Ogilvy of Balmulto; John Spens, sheriff of Perth; Christian Dunyn, provost of Perth; Alexander Guthry and William Caberis, burgesses of Perth. This grantee was his nephew son of Marion Seton.
Sir Alexander was alive in 31 August 1440 [8] and had deceased by 3 April 1441, when his son was in possession of the title.
Elizabeth Gordon predeceased him in 1439 and was buried in St. Nicholas' Church in Aberdeen.
Sir Alexander Seton and Elizabeth Gordon had issue:
Alexander Gordon, 1st Earl of Huntly
Elizabeth Seton probably married to Alexander, Earl of Ross, who died in 1449.
William Seton who gained title of Meldrum through marriage to Elizabeth, surviving daughter and heiress of William Meldrum of that Ilk. Killed 1452.
Henry who was killed at Battle of Brechin with his brother on 14 May 1452.[9]
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- Title: Wikipedia - Alexander Seton, Lord Gordon
Author: References George Edward Cokayne, The Complete Peerage; or, a History of the House of Lords and all its members from the earliest times, Vol. VI, eds. H. A. Doubleday & Howard de Walden (London: The St. Catherine Press, Ltd., 1926), pp. 1, 675 E. W. M. Balfour-Melville, 'The Captivity of James I', The Scottish Historical Review, Vol. 21, No. 81 (Oct., 1923), pp. 46–47 The records of Aboyne MCCXXX-MDCLXXXI, ed. Charles Gordon Huntly (Aberdeen: The New Spalding Club, 1894), p. 372 George Edward Cokayne, The Complete Peerage; or, a History of the House of Lords and all its members from the earliest times, Vol. VI, eds. H. A. Doubleday & Howard de Walden (London: The St. Catherine Press, Ltd., 1926), p. 1 The Scots Peerage, Founded on Wood's Edition of Sir Robert Douglas's Peerage of Scotland, ed. James Balfour Paul, Vol. IV (Edinburgh: David Douglas, 1907), p. 519 John Malcolm Bulloch, The House of Gordon, Vol. 1, (Aberdeen: Aberdeen University Press, Ltd., 1903), p. 121 George Edw
Publication: Name: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alexander_Seton,_Lord_Gordon;
Note: Alexander Seton, Lord Gordon († 1440 or 1441) was a Scottish baron, Lord of Parliament and progenitor of the Gordon Earls and Marquesses of Huntly.
Life
Alexander Seton was the second son of Sir William Seton of Seton and his wife, Janet Fleming.[a][1] When King Robert III of Scotland sent his only remaining son, the future king James I of Scotland to France for safety, the ship was taken by English pirates and Prince James, along with his companions, was taken prisoner and turned over to Henry IV of England.[2] Alexander Seton was one of those taken prisoner along with the future king.[3] On 7 March 1408 Alexander's father, Sir William Seton, purchased the wardship of Elizabeth Gordon, Heiress of Gordon from Walter de Haliburton of Dirleton for a liferent of 50 merks from the barony of Tranent.[3] Sir William originally betrothed her to his eldest son Sir John Seton but when John declined, Elizabeth was then betrothed to William's younger son, Alexander Seton, who by this time had been released by the English.[3]
Elizabeth and Alexander wed in 1408.[4] He acquired through his marriage to Elizabeth Gordon the lands of Gordon and Huntly, confirmed to them on 20 July 1408.[4] Elizabeth Gordon was forced to resign her lands before Parliament at Perth and the Regent of Albany issued a new charter of "All and whole of the lands and baronies of Gordon and Huntly lying within the sheriffdom of Berwick; the lands of Fogo and Faunes with their pertinents; the lands of Strathbogie and Beldygordon with the pertinents in Aberdeenshire; to be held by the said Alexander and Elizabeth and their heirs lawfully procreated; whom failing the true and lawful heirs of the said Elizabeth whomsoever; rendering the services used and wont."[3]
Huntly Castle, originally called Strathbogie, erected by Sir Adam de Gordon, Lord of Gordon, Elizabeth's father.
Three years later Alexander fought at the Battle of Harlaw and was knighted before 1419.[5] In 1421–2 he traveled to France and visited King James of Scotland. Alexander Seton was one of those who negotiated for the release of the Scottish monarch and was a hostage for his king, but was released after a year in England to return to his family in Scotland.[5] In that same year Alexander and Elizabeth were granted a charter for half the lands of Culclarochy and part of Gerry in the barony of Drumblade.[6] About 1436 Alexander was created a Lord of Parliament as Alexander Seton, Lord Gordon.[5]
In 1428 Alexander and Elizabeth were granted a dispensation from the pope long after their marriage when it was determined they were within the forbidden degrees of consanguinity; the dispensation stating that Alexander Seton had contracted marriage with Elizabeth, the heiress of Gordon, "per verba de presenti publici, juxta morem patriae" (Latin: publicly in accordance with all customs of the time).[3] Elizabeth predeceased her husband dying at Strathbogie on 16 March 1439 while Alexander died in 1440–41.[7]
Family
Alexander Seton married (1408) Elizabeth Gordon, daughter of Adam de Gordon, Lord of Gordon and Elizabeth Keith, daughter of William Keith, Marischal of Scotland.[8] Their children were:
Alexander Seton († 1470), succeeded his parents, took the name of Gordon and was created 1st Earl of Huntly[9]
William Seton († 1452), married Elizabeth, daughter and heiress of William Meldrum of Memdrum. Was the ancestor of the Setons of Meldrum[9]
Henry Seton († 1452) killed with his brother William at the Battle of Brechin[9]
Elizabeth Seton, married to Alexander of Islay, Earl of Ross († 1449)[9]
Notes
A manuscript in the British Museum styles Sir William Seaton as "Wilhelmus primus dominus Seton" and other documents confirm this title. The date of this creation of the premier baronage of Scotland, is dated to sometime before 1393. A singular mistake in this record has Sir William Seaton marrying Catherine, daughter of Sir William St. Clair of Herdmanston. The Complete Peerage [vol. vi, p. 1, footnote (a)] corrects this to Janet Fleming, daughter of Sir David Fleming of Gibbar & Cumbernauld. They had two sons, John, who succeeded his father—it was he who married Catherine Sinclair (St. Clair)—and Alexander who married Elizabeth Gordon, heiress of Gordon. The Gordons were originally from Normandy, the founder of the family coming to Scotland in the twelfth century, probably in the train of David I of Scotland, and received a grant of the lands of Gordon in Berkshire. See: Robert Seton, An Old Family: or, The Setons of Scotland and America (New York: Brentano's, 1899), pp. 49-50; Scots Peerage, VIII, 574 & n. 1.
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