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Johanna Poynings
- Preferred Name: Johanna Poynings[1] [2] [3] [4] [5] [6] [7] [8] [9]
- Alternate Name: Ferrer
- Gender: F
- Death: 30 MAY 1394 in Groby, Leicestershire, England at LATI: N2.6592 LONG: E1.2236 with note: jfh
- Burial: 30 MAY 1394 in Leicestershire, England at LATI: N2.7139 LONG: E1.1015 with note: jfh
- FSID: LYP5-V4F
- Birth: 1356 in Basingstoke, Hampshire, England at LATI: N1.2817 LONG: E1.0671 with note: Standardizing entry
- Notes:
=== Life Sketch ===
PLEASE READ NOTE BELOW:
THIS IS NOT Lady Joan de Hoo (1358-1394)
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Note:
Joan de Poynings1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8
Last Edited 4 Apr 2020
F, #45952, b. circa 1354, d. 30 May 1394
Father Sir Lucas de Poynings, 4th Lord Poynings1,2,3,9,5,6,7,10
Mother Isabel de St. John1,3,9,6,10 b. c 1333, d. 16 Oct 1393
Joan de Poynings was born circa 1354 at of Basing, Hampshire, England.1 She married Sir Henry Ferrers, 4th Baron Ferrers of Groby, son of Sir William Ferrers, 3rd Baron Ferrers of Groby and Margaret de Ufford, before 27 April 1371; They had 2 sons (Sir William, 5th Lord Ferrers of Groby; & Henry) and 1 daughter (Isabel, wife of Sir John, 2nd Lord Beauchamp of Kidderminster).1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8 Joan de Poynings died on 30 May 1394 at of Groby, Leicestershire, England.1,3,6
Family
Sir Henry Ferrers, 4th Baron Ferrers of Groby b. 16 Feb 1356, d. 3 Feb 1388
Children
Sir William Ferrers, 5th Baron Ferrers of Groby, Vidame of Chartres+1,2,3,5,6 b. 25 Apr 1372, d. 18 May 1445
Isabel Ferrers+11,3,12,6,7 b. c 1377, d. b 12 Oct 1410
Citations
[S5] Douglas Richardson, Plantagenet Ancestry, p. 209.
[S16] Douglas Richardson, Magna Carta Ancestry, 2nd Edition, Vol. I, p. 266.
[S16] Douglas Richardson, Magna Carta Ancestry, 2nd Edition, Vol. II, p. 299.
[S16] Douglas Richardson, Magna Carta Ancestry, 2nd Edition, Vol. III, p. 307.
[S4] Douglas Richardson, Royal Ancestry, Vol. I, p. 444-445.
[S4] Douglas Richardson, Royal Ancestry, Vol. III, p. 155.
[S4] Douglas Richardson, Royal Ancestry, Vol. III, p. 302.
[S4] Douglas Richardson, Royal Ancestry, Vol. IV, p. 322.
[S16] Douglas Richardson, Magna Carta Ancestry, 2nd Edition, Vol. III, p. 306.
[S4] Douglas Richardson, Royal Ancestry, Vol. IV, p. 321-322.
[S5] Douglas Richardson, Plantagenet Ancestry, p. 388.
[S16] Douglas Richardson, Magna Carta Ancestry, 2nd Edition, Vol. II, p. 376.
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“Royal Ancestry: A Study in Colonial & Medieval Families,” Douglas Richardson (2013):
“ISABEL DE SAINT JOHN, de jure suo jure Lady Saint John of Basing, younger daughter, born about 1333 (aged 14 in 1347). She was co-heiress in 1347 to her brother, Edmund de Saint John, 3rd Lord Saint John. She married (1st) before August 1347 HENRY DE BURGHERSH, son and heir apparent of Bartholomew de Burghersh, Knt., 3rd Lord Burghersh, by Elizabeth, daughter and co-heiress of Thebaud de Verdun, Knt., 2nd Lord Verdun [see BURGHERSH 7 for his ancestry]. They had no issue. He died in Nov. 1348. She married (2nd) before 29 Jan. 1348/9 LUKE DE POYNINGS (or PONYNGES), Knt., in right of his wife, of Basing, Amport, etc., Hampshire, Halnaker, Sussex, West Shefford, Berkshire, etc., Keeper of Pamper Forest, Hampshire, younger son of Thomas de Poynings, Knt., of Poynings, Sussex, by Agnes, younger daughter and co-heiress of Richard de Rokesley (or Rokesle), Knt. [see POYNINGS 13 for his ancestry]. They had one son, Thomas, Knt. [5th Lord Saint John of Basing], and one daughter, Joan. In 1358 he was preparing to go abroad. His wife, Isabel, was heiress in 1361 to her nephew, John de Saint Philibert He was summoned to Parliament from 24 Feb. 1367/8 to 20 Jan. 1375/6, by writs directed Luce de Ponynges, whereby he is held to have become Lord Saint John. He presented to the churches of Warnford, Hampshire, 1369, Sherbome St John, Hampshire, 1371, and Chawton, Hampshire, 1372. In 1370 he took 10 men-at-arms overseas in the king's service. SIR LUKE DE POYNINGS, 4th Lord Saint John of Basing, left a will dated 5 June 1376, proved 4 July 1376. He was buried at Wamford, Hampshire. In 1377 his widow, Isabel, Walter Devenish, parson of Chawton, and Thomas Worting owed Master Adam de Wigmore and other executors of Luke de Poynings a debt of £460. In 1378 she granted a messuage and two crofts of land in Bramley, Hampshire to Humphrey Gylot, of Bramley, and Elizabeth his wife. She presented to the church of Warnford, Hampshire in 1381. Isabel married (3rd) before 1 March 1384 (date of license) THOMAS DE WORTYNG (or WORTYNGE), Knt., Justice of the Peace in Hampshire, 1389. He and his wife, Isabel, presented to the church of Wamford, Hampshire in 1387. He presented to the church of Chawton, Hampshire in June 1390. In June 1390 the king gave license to him and his wife, Isabel, to grant the manor of Binsted, Hampshire to William de Wykeham, Bishop of Winchester. SIR THOMAS DE WORTYNG died testate shortly before 20 Dec. 1390. Isabel, Lady Saint John, died 16 (or 17) October 1393.
Dugdale Baronage of England 2 (1676): 463-465 (sub Port). Hasted Hist. & Top. Survey of Kent 2 (1797): 268-270. Brydges Collins' Peerage of England 9 (1812): 475-476 (sub Poynings, Lord Poynings). Berry County Gens.: Sussex Fams. (1830): 61. Burke Gen'l & Heraldic Dict. of the Peerages of England, Ireland & Scotland (1831): 457-458 (sub St. John). Dallaway Hist. of the Western Division of the County of Sussex 2(2) (1832): 124 (Saint John ped.). Sussex Arch. Colls. 15 (1863): 1-56. Elwes Hist. of the Castles, Mansions & Manors of Western Sussex (1876): 40 (Poynings ped.). Burke Dormant, Abeyant, Forfeited & Extinct Peerages (1883): 466-467 (sub St. John). Burrows Fam. of Brocas of Beauroaire & Roche Court (1886): 364-366 (seal of Isabel, lady de St. John dated 1378 bears three lozenges, containing the arms of Poynings, St. John, and Burghersh), opposite 408 (illustration of seal), 409-410. Kirby Wykeham's Reg. 1(1896): 25, 38, 45, 78, 113, 137, 160, 174; 2 (1899): 256-258 (will of Luke de Ponynges, Lord Saint John), 430, 443. List of Foregn Accounts (Lists & Indexes XI) (1900): 222. C.P.R. 1388-1392 (1902): 137, 265, 312. VCH Hampshire 2 (1903): 496 (Poynings arms: Barry gold and vert with a baston gules); 3 (1908): 269; 4 (1911): 115-116, 158-159, 337-344, 433-435. Wrottesley Peels, from the Plea Rolls (1905): 78. List of lnqs. ad Quad Damnum 2 (PRO Lists and Indexes 22) (1906): 674. C.P. 2 (1912): 426 (sub Burghersh); 10 (1945): 665-666 (sub Poynings); 11 (1949): 327-328 (sub Saint John), 367 (sub Saint Philibert). VCH Berkshire 4 (1924): 238-242. VCH Sussex 4 (1953): 140-150. Paget Baronage of England (1957) 463: 1. Ancient Deeds - Ser. A 1 (List & Index Soc. 151) (1978): 81. Hanna Cartularies of Southwick Priory 2 (Hampshire Recs. 10) (1989): 152. Bothwell Edward III & the English Peerage (2004): 104. Hanna Christchurch Priory Cartulary (Hampshire Rec. Ser. 18) (2007): 374-375. National Archives, C 131/27/24; C 131/27/25; C 131/30/4; C 131/197/24; C 143/418/9; C 241/164/132 (available at www.catalogue.nationalarchives.gov.uk/search.asp).
Children of Isabel de Saint John, by Luke de Poynings, Knt.:
i. THOMAS POYNINGS, Knt. [see next.).
ii. JOAN DE POYNINGS, married HENRY DE FERRERS, Knt., 4th Lord Ferrers of Groby [see GROBY 12].”
=== parentage ===
Daughter of Lucas de Poynings and Isabel (St John) de Poynings or DeHoo?
Sister of Thomas de Poynings
=== Non-standard gedcom data: 1 HEAL B3DF- ===
Non-standard gedcom data: 1 HEAL B3DF-CG
=== Ancestral File Number: 8J5Q-F5 ===
Ancestral File Number: 8J5Q-F5
=== MAGNA CHARTA SURETIES, by F. L. Weis, 4t ===
MAGNA CHARTA SURETIES, by F. L. Weis, 4th Ed., Line 100 #8, pg. 112: prob. dau. of Sir Thomas de Hoo and Isabel St. Leger. (CP cit.).
=== Ancestry ===
Ancestry: According to Plantangenet Ancestry, Joan was a daughter of Luke de Poynings. PA2 cites CP XIV:321 for its identification, stating "Joan used a seal with a shield of Ferrers impaling St. John, as used by the Poynings". Douglas Richardson, in a post to SGM, also agrees with PA2 (see notes under mother Isabel de St. John). The entry from PA2 reads:
Ancestry: He [Henry de Ferrers] was married before 27 Apr 1371 to JOAN POYNINGS, daughter, evidently, of Luke de Poynings (or Ponynges), Knt., 4th Lord St. John of Basing by Isabel, daughter of Hugh de Saint John, 2nd Lord St. John of Basing (which Luke had custody of the wardship of the lands of William de Ferrers in 1371)
=== Relation to Jack Peterken note ===
Nineteenth Great Grandmother : Great, Great, Great, Great, Great, Great, Great, Great, Great, Great, Great, Great, Great, Great, Great, Great, Great, Great, Great Grandmother
=== From Ancestral File (TM), data as of 2 J ===
From Ancestral File (TM), data as of 2 January 1996.
=== !DEATH: Date: May 30, 1394 - Doc. Line 1 ===
!DEATH: Date: May 30, 1394 - Doc. Line 11-33 !MARRIAGE: Joan de Hoo and Henry Ferrers - Doc. Line 11-33 Date: Before May 30, 1394 - Doc. Line 11-33
=== From Ancestral File (TM), data as of 2 ===
From Ancestral File (TM), data as of 2 January 1996.From Ancestral Fi le (TM), data as of 2 January 1996.
=== Adams says she was probably the daughter ===
Adams says she was probably the daughter of Sir Thomas de Hoo and Isabel Saint Leger.
=== !1. Probable daughter of Sir Thomas De H ===
!1. Probable daughter of Sir Thomas De HOO and Isabel Seint LEGER.
=== Ancestral File Number: B3DF-CG ===
Ancestral File Number: B3DF-CG
=== Line in Record @I08524@ (RIN 7851) from ===
Line in Record @I08524@ (RIN 7851) from GEDCOM file not recognized: FAMILY_SPOUSE @F3505@ Line in Record @I08524@ (RIN 7851) from GEDCOM file not recognized: FAMILY_CHILD @F3444@
=== Weis says, "Prob. dau. of Sir Thomas de ===
Weis says, "Prob. dau. of Sir Thomas de Hoo and Isabel Seint Leger." 11-33. Weis.
=== !Plantagenet Ancestry of Seventeenth-Cen ===
!Plantagenet Ancestry of Seventeenth-Century Colonists. The Descent from the Later Plantagenet Kings of England, Henry III, Edward I, Edward II, and Edward III, of Emigrants from England and Wales to the North American Colonies before 1701 by David Faris First Edition
=== !Ancestral Roots by Weis, Seventh Editio ===
!Ancestral Roots by Weis, Seventh Edition line 11-33 Probaly dau. of Thomas de Hoo
=== FAM HIST CENTER #AFN:B3DF-CG ===
FAM HIST CENTER #AFN:B3DF-CG
Preferred Parents:
Father: Lucas Poynings, b. 1323 in Poynings, Sussex, England d. 5 JUN 1376 in Basingstoke, Hampshire, England
Mother: Isabelle St John Lady de Basing, b. 29 JUN 1333 in Old Basing, Hampshire, England d. 16 OCT 1393 in Berkhamsted, Hertfordshire, England
Family 1: Henry de Ferrers, b. 6 FEB 1356 in Tilty, Essex, England, United Kingdom d. 3 FEB 1388 in Groby, Leicestershire, England
- William de Ferrers 5th Barron Ferrers of Groby, b. 25 APR 1372 in Luton, Bedfordshire, England d. 18 MAY 1445 in Woodham Ferrers, Essex, England
Sources:
- Title: "Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists, 7th Edition," by Frederick Lewis Weis, additions by Walter Lee Shippard Jr
Author: 1999 Page: 11-33
Publication: Name: https://books.google.com/books?id=3F9nG8aFJ7MC&printsec=frontcover&dq=%22Ancestral+Roots+of+Certain+American+Colonists,+7th+Edition,%22+by+Frederick+Lewis+Weis,+additions+by+Walter+Lee+Shippard+Jr.&hl=en&sa=X&ei=6BnlVIb1NIm4ggSO7oDgDw&ved=0CCcQ6AEwAQ#v=onepage&q=joan%20hoo&f=false;
- Title: Edward I King of England descent to Ferrers, De Clare, and De Verdun families. Ancestral Roots... 8th Edition (Weis)
Author: Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists Who Came to America before 1700, 8th Edition, Frederick Weis, Baltimore, ISBN: 978-0-8063-1752-6.
Note: Line 11 29-33 pp. 15-16. Edward I King of England descent to Ferrars, de Clare, De Verdun families.
Page: Record of Joan Poynings married Henry Ferrers
- Title: Inquisitions Post Mortem (IPMs) for Joan late the wife of Henry de Ferrariis of Groby, knight
Author: M. C. B. Dawes, H. C. Johnson, M. M. Condon, C. A. Cook and H. E. Jones, 'Inquisitions Post Mortem, Richard II, File 81', in Calendar of Inquisitions Post Mortem, Volume 17, Richard II (London, 1988), pp. 147-164. British History Online http://www.british-history.ac.uk/inquis-post-mortem/vol17/pp147-164 [accessed 22 January 2020].
Publication: Name: https://www.british-history.ac.uk/inquis-post-mortem/vol17/pp147-164;
Note: 342 JOAN LATE THE WIFE OF HENRY DE FERRARIIS of Groby, knight
Writ, 31 May, 17 Richard II [1394]
OXFORD. Inq. taken at Burcestre, Friday before SS Peter and Paul, 18 Richard II.
She held the under-mentioned third part of a manor in dower after the death of the said Henry, of the inheritance of William de Ferrariis of Groby.
Hethe. A third part of the manor, which manor is held of the earl of Gloucester by service of 2s. yearly.
She died on 30 May last. William de Ferrariis of Groby, aged 22 years and more is her heir.
343
BERKS. Inq. taken at Chepyng Ildesley, Saturday after the Nativity of St John the Baptist, 18 Richard II.
She held the under-mentioned third parts of knights’ fees for life in dower after the death of the said Henry, of the inheritance of William de Ferrariis, son and heir of the said Henry.
Westildesley. A third part of a knight’s fee, held by the heirs of Roger de Bello Campo.
(Unspecified.) A third part of a knight’s fee, held by the heirs of William de Wykyngston.
Date of death and heir as above.
344
Writ, 31 May, 17 Richard II
HERTFORD. Inq. taken at Ware, Thursday after Whitsunday, 17 Richard II.
She held the under-mentioned rent and knight’s fee for life in dower, of the inheritance of the said William de Ferrariis of Groby.
Ware. 2s. 2 3/4d. yearly rent from the manor, and a knight’s fee in the manor. The said manor is held of the said William de Ferrariis, as of his manor of Groby, which manor is held of the king in chief by knight’s service.
Date of death and heir as above.
345
Writ, 31 May, 17 Richard II
WARWICK. Inq. taken at Coventre, 12 June, 17 Richard II.
She held the under-mentioned third part of a manor and the under-mentioned knights’ fees and part of a fee for life in dower, of the inheritance of the said William de Ferrariis of Groby.
Flekenho. A third part of the manor, which manor is held of the bishop of Worcester, service not known.
Lodbroke. A fourth part of a knight’s fee, held by John de Catesby, son and heir of William de Catesby.
Wolvey. One knight’s fee, held by the abbot of Combe.
Assho and Caldecote. One knight’s fee, held by the heirs of Geoffrey Semely.
The above fees are held of William de Ferrariis of Groby, who holds the said manor of Groby of the king in chief by knight’s service.
Date of death and heir as above.
346
LEICESTER. Inq. taken at Lutterworth, 11 June, 17 Richard II.
She held the under-mentioned third part of the manor of Groby for life in dower, of the inheritance of the above-mentioned William de Ferrariis of Groby.
She also held the under-mentioned twentieth part of a knight’s fee in Sytheston.
She also held the under-mentioned manor of Lutterworth for life, of the inheritance of the same William.
Groby. A third part of the manor, with a third part of the court of the honor of Winchester in the county of Leicester, together with the advowson of the priory of Charley. The said manor, court and advowson are held of the king in chief by knight’s service.
Sytheston. A twentieth part of a knight’s fee, held by the prior of Ulvescroft and held of William de Ferrariis, as of his manor of Groby.
Lutterworth. The manor, except the advowsons of churches, held of the heirs of Hamo Maunser, service not known.
Date of death and heir as above.
347
Writ, 31 May, 17 Richard II
DERBY. Inq. taken at Derby, Thursday after Trinity, 17 Richard II.
She held the under-mentioned fees for life in dower, of the inheritance of the above-mentioned William de Ferrariis of Groby.
Weston. A moiety of a knight’s fee, held by the heirs of Robert de Weston.
Fornewarke. A moiety of a knight’s fee, held by Robert Fraunces, knight.
The above fees are held of the aforesaid William de Ferrariis by knight’s service.
Date of death and heir as above.
348
Writ, 31 May, 17 Richard II
STAFFORD. Inq. taken at Wolvernehampton, Monday the morrow of Trinity, 17 Richard II.
She held the under-mentioned third parts of manors for life, of the inheritance of the above-mentioned William de Ferrariis of Groby.
Wotton. A third part of the manor (extent given).
Tetenhale. A third part of the manor (extent given).
The above manors are held of the king in chief, services not known.
349
SALOP. Inq. taken at Claverley, Tuesday after Trinity, 17 Richard II.
She held the under-mentioned third parts of manors, etc. and the under-mentioned fees and parts of fees, in dower, of the inheritance of the above-mentioned William de Ferrariis of Groby.
Stoke upon Tiern. A third part of the manor (extent given), including a third part of a park, a third part of a hay called Oxheie, a third part of a field called Benehill and a third part of a court and leet, held of the king in chief.
Bradeford. A third part of the hundred, held of the king in chief.
Claverley. A third part of the manor, held of the king in chief.
By what services the aforesaid manors and hundred are held the jurors know not.
Wildredhop. A moiety of a knight’s fee, which Burga late the wife of Richard de Harley held.
Wygley. A fourth part of a knight’s fee, which Robert son of Robert de Dovill held.
Eton upon Tiern and Hasilshawe. A moiety of a knight’s fee, which William de Barton held.
Southstoke. One knight’s fee, which the heirs of William de Lodelowe held.
Henley. A moiety of a knight’s fee, which Roger de Welyngton held.
Blecchesley. A fourth part of a knight’s fee, which Roger Corbet, knight, held.
Moreton Say. A moiety of a knight’s fee, which Robert de Say held.
All the above fees are held of the king in chief, service not known.
Date of death and heir as above.
350
Writ, 31 May, 17 Richard II
NORTHAMPTON. Inq. taken at Navesby, Friday before Trinity, 17 Richard II.
She held the under-mentioned third part of a manor and the under-mentioned fees and parts of fees, for life in dower, of the inheritance of the above-mentioned William de Ferrariis of Groby.
Neubotle. A third part of the manor (extent given), with the advowson of the church of Bryngton. The manor is held of the king in chief by knight’s service.
Asthorp. A moiety of a knight’s fee, held by the heirs of William Stapylton.
Farnyngho. One knight’s fee, held by the heirs of Emery de Sancto Amando, Geoffrey Gardon and William Abbot.
Brampton. Two knights’ fees and a half, held by William Rosselyn.
Sprotton and Haldenby. One knight’s fee and a half, held by the heirs of Thomas de Arderne.
The above fees are held of William de Ferrariis of Groby by knight’s service, as of his manor of Groby, which is held of the king in chief by knight’s service.
Date of death as above.
351
Writ, 31 May, 17 Richard II
BUCKINGHAM. Inq. taken at Crendon, 15 June, 17 Richard II.
She held the under-mentioned fraction of a manor for life, of the inheritance of the above-mentioned William de Ferrariis of Groby.
Crendon. A third part of a third part of the manor, which manor is held of the king in chief by knight’s service.
Date of death and heir as above.
352
BEDFORD. Inq. taken at Luton, Thursday before the Translation of St Thomas the Martyr, 18 Richard II.
She held the under-mentioned fraction of a fee in dower of the inheritance of the above-mentioned William de Ferrariis.
Mokerangre. An eighth part of a knight’s fee, held by the heirs of Roger de Trumpyngton. It is held of the said William de Ferrariis, as of his manor of Groby, by knight’s service.
Date of death and heir as above.
C. Ric. II File 81 (1)
E. Inq. P.M. File 62 (7) (Buckingham)
E. Enrolments etc. of Inq. No. 297 (Warwick)
E. Enrolments etc. of Inq. No. 301 (Stafford and Salop)
E. Enrolments etc. of Inq. No. 306 (Oxford and Berks)
Page: The main subject of this source.
- Title: Inquisitions Post Mortem (IPMs) for Henry de Ferariis of Groby, knight
Author: M. C. B. Dawes, M. R. Devine, H. E. Jones and M. J. Post, 'Inquisitions Post Mortem, Richard II, Files 50-51', in Calendar of Inquisitions Post Mortem: Volume 16, Richard II (London, 1974), pp. 210-217. British History Online http://www.british-history.ac.uk/inquis-post-mortem/vol16/pp210-217 [accessed 22 January 2020].
Publication: Name: https://www.british-history.ac.uk/inquis-post-mortem/vol16/pp210-217;
Note: 546. Henry de Ferariis of Groby, knight
Writ addressed to John, king of Castile and Leon, duke of Lancaster, or his chancellor in the duchy. 10 February, 11 Richard II [1388].
LANCASTER. Inq. taken at Preston, Monday before Palm Sunday, 11 Richard II.
Long before his death he granted all his under-mentioned lands &c. in Chorlegh and elsewhere in the county of Lancaster to John de Aldeleme and Katharine his wife and John their son, for life, at a yearly rent of 8 marks; and on 12 November, 11 Richard II, he granted the said rent to William de Burgh, knight, John de Belton, clerk, John Morehous, clerk, and Robert Okebourne, and their heirs.
Chorlegh. Lands &c., held of the duke of Lancaster by service of providing a man to be king’s bailiff in Leylondshire.
Bolton on the Moors. Lands &c., held of John le Warr, lord of Manchester, by knight’s service.
He died on Monday after the Purification last. William de Ferariis, his son, aged 16 years, is his heir.
547.
Writ, 10 February, 11 Richard II [1388]
ESSEX. Inq. (indented) taken at Chelmersford, Friday, 21 February, 11 Richard II.
He held no lands &c. in the county on the day of his death, because on 20 December, 11 Richard II, he demised the under-mentioned manors &c. by charter of feoffment to Robert, bishop of London, William de Burgh, knight, John de Belton, parson of the church of Swepston, William Haselbeche, parson of the church of Wodeham Ferers, John Morehous, parson of the church of Lutreworthe, Robert Rikedoun and Robert Okebourn, and their heirs and assigns.
Stebbyng, Wodeham Ferers, Fayrstede, Merkes and Gynge Joyberdlaundry. The manors, with all the lands &c., rents, reversions, services, advowsons, knight’s fees, wardships, reliefs, escheats, commodities and profits pertaining thereto.
He died on 3 February last. Heir as above, aged 15 years on 25 April last.
548.
Writ, 10 February, 11 Richard II
LEICESTER. Inq. taken at Leycestre, Friday before St. Matthias, 11 Richard II.
He held the under-mentioned manor of Groby in fee tail by gift of Margaret de Ferrariis, sometime countess of Derby, to William de Ferrariis, her son, great-grandfather of Sir William de Ferrariis his father, whose heir he was.
He held the under-mentioned manor of Lutterworth in joint feoffment with Joan his wife, to them and the heirs of their bodies, by a fine levied in the king’s court in 45 Edward III, between him and the said Joan, querents, and John Farnbergh, Joan’s attorney, Simon Pakeman and Robert Bradham, deforciants.
Groby. The manor (extent given), held of the king in chief by knight’s service, amount not known. The extent includes 2 parks with deer, a close of pasture called ‘Liefeld’, a pasture called ‘Stywardesheye’, a close called ‘Burgh’, a pasture called ‘Pakemanheye’, 2 watermills, a several fishery in the water of Hadbrok, 2 mill-ponds, and the pleas and profits of a court, a view of frankpledge, and his share of the court of the honor of Winchester held at Leycestre. Long before his death he granted a yearly rent of 12 marks out of the said manor to a certain esquire, Robert Okeburn and Joan his wife, for life.
Lutturworth. The manor, held of the heirs of Hamo Maunser, service unknown.
Date of death as last above. Heir as above, aged 15 years on the feast of St. Mark the Evangelist last.
549.
WARWICK. Inq. taken at Southam, Monday before St. Gregory the Pope, 11 Richard II.
He held no lands &c. in the county, because long before his death he demised the under-mentioned lands &c. to Henry his son, for life.
Flekenhoo. All his lands &c.
Date of death and heir as last above.
550.
Writ, 10 February, 11 Richard II
NORTHAMPTON. Inq. taken at Chyrch Bryngton, 3 March, 11 Richard II.
He held the under-mentioned manor in his demesne as of fee.
Newbotell. The manor (extent given), held of the king in chief by knight’s service.
Date of death and heir (aged 15 years and more) as above.
551.
Writ, 10 February, 11 Richard II
BUCKINGHAM. Inq. taken at Crundon, Thursday before St. Gregory, 11 Richard II.
He held the under-mentioned third part in his demesne as of fee.
Crundon. A third part of the manor (extent given), held of the king in chief by knight’s service. The extent includes pleas &c. of court, worth 13s. 4d., and the under-wood of a third part of a wood called ‘Tudreshull’.
Date of death and heir as last above.
552.
Writ, 10 February, 11 Richard II
Writ of certiorari super vero valore feodorum &c., 18 February, 11 Richard II
Similar writ, 26 April, 11 Richard II
OXFORD. Inq. taken at Bircestre, 6 March, 11 Richard II.
He held the under-mentioned toft &c., but held no advowson or fees in the county.
Heth. A toft and a carucate of land and 6l. rent, held of the earl of Gloucester by service of 2s. yearly.
Date of death and heir as last above.
553.
BERKS. Inq. taken at Wantynge, 8 March, 11 Richard II.
He held the under-mentioned land and part of a knight’s fee in his demesne as of fee.
Westhildesley. 7 virgates of land, for a third part of a knight’s fee which the heirs of Roger de Bello Campo hold.
Lokersley. A third part of a knight’s fee which the heirs of William de Wykyngeston hold.
554.
Writ, 10 February, 11 Richard II
STAFFORD. Inq. taken at Stafford, Monday before St. Gregory, 11 Richard II.
He held the under-mentioned manor in tail male and the under-mentioned hamlet and rent in his demesne as of fee.
Tetenhale. The manor (extent given), held of the king in chief, free of rent. The extent includes pleas &c. of court worth 4s. There is no capital messuage in the manor, nor any demesne lands.
Wotton under Wever. The hamlet (extent given), held of the king in chief by knight’s service. The extent includes pleas &c. of court worth 3s. There is no capital messuage in the hamlet, nor any demesne lands. On 1 October last the said Henry gave to John Temple, his esquire, a yearly rent of 6 marks for life out of the said hamlet.
Fenton Culvarde. 13s. 4d. rent of assise of free tenants, held of the duke of Lancaster by service of doing suit to the duke’s court of Newcastle under Lyme every three weeks.
Date of death and heir as above (Leicester inquisition).
555.
SALOP. Inq. taken at Neuport, Saturday before St. Gregory, 11 Richard II.
He held the under-mentioned manor of Stok upon Tyerne in his demesne as of fee.
He held the under-mentioned bailiwick and the manor of Claverly in tail male.
Stok upon Tyerne. The manor (extent given), together with the advowson of the church, held of the king in chief by knight’s service. The extent includes a park and pleas &c. of court worth 4s.
Bradford. The bailiwick of the hundred, held of the king in chief, free of rent.
Claverley. The manor (extent given), held of the king in chief, free of rent. The extent includes pleas &c. of court worth 4s. There is no capital messuage in the manor, nor any demesne lands.
Date of death and heir as last above.
556.
Writ to the escheator to enquire whether the hundred and bailiwick of Bradford mentioned in the above inquisition are one and the same thing, or different things; as the late escheator, by whom the above inquisition was taken, has complained that, although the said bailiwick is the said hundred, and he has delivered by the king’s orders two-thirds of the bailiwick or hundred to the king’s farmers of two-thirds of the lands &c. late of the said Henry, and one third thereof to Joan late the wife of the said Henry as part of her dower, nevertheless he is distrained by summons of the Exchequer to answer for the issues or profits of the hundred as if it were a different thing from the bailiwick, whereas it is not. 10 May, 13 Richard II.
SALOP. Inq. taken at Shrewsbury, Thursday before Holy Trinity, 13 Richard II.
Henry de Ferrariis of Groby, knight, father of William de Ferrariis who now is, held of the king in chief the hundred of Bradford, to him and the heirs male of his body, by grant of Edward III to Henry de Ferrariis, his grandfather, free of rent. The hundred of Bradford and what was called the bailiwick of the hundred in the previous inquisition are one and the same thing.
557.
Writ of certiorari super vero valore feodorum &c., 18 February, 11 Richard II
HERTFORD. Inq. taken at Markzate, 19 March, 11 Richard II.
He held the under-mentioned rent in his demesne as of fee.
Ware. 6s. 8d. rent, held of the king in chief. The [earl of] Kent holds the manor of Ware of the said Henry by that service yearly, and by a knight’s fee, as of the manor of Groby, co. Leicester. The earl is still alive.
558.
Similar writ, 18 February, 11 Richard II
LEICESTER. Inq. taken at Leycestre, Friday after St. Matthias, 11 Richard II.
Fenydrayton. A moiety of a knight’s fee, which is held by Hugh Husee, knight; and a moiety of a knight’s fee, which is held by John de Whelesbergh.
Berleston. A sixth part of a knight’s fee, which is held by John Sergeaunt; and a sixth part of a knight’s fee, which is held by Richard Yerward and Joan his wife, in right of the said Joan, kinswoman and heir of Richard Boteler.
Sibbesdon, Shepey, Hegham and Wikham. 2 knight’s fees, which are held by John Burdet, knight.
Sytheston. 2 virgates of land formerly of John de Stafford, clerk, which are now the prior of Ulvescroft’s and are held by a twentieth part of a knight’s fee.
Stokton and Burton. 9 virgates of land, which the heirs of Thomas Fryday and their parceners hold of the said Henry by serjeanty, and they owe wardship and marriage.
Braunston. Half a knight’s fee, which is held by John Burdet, knight.
Glenfeld. A fourth part of a knight’s fee, which Henry Ballard, the heirs of Baldwin de Glenfeld and others hold severally of the fee called ‘Dautevill’.
Burton and Upton. Two moieties of a knight’s fee and a half, held respectively by the Lady Margaret Nevyll, kinswoman and one of the heirs of Robert de la Warde, and Richard Meynill, the same Robert’s other heir.
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- Title: Proof of age for William de Ferrariis son and heir of Henry de Ferrariis of Groby, knight
Author: M. C. B. Dawes, H. C. Johnson, M. M. Condon, C. A. Cook and H. E. Jones, 'Inquisitions Post Mortem, Richard II, File 82', in Calendar of Inquisitions Post Mortem, Volume 17, Richard II (London, 1988), pp. 164-183. British History Online http://www.british-history.ac.uk/inquis-post-mortem/vol17/pp164-183 [accessed 22 January 2020].
Publication: Name: https://www.british-history.ac.uk/inquis-post-mortem/vol17/pp164-183;
Note: 429 WILLIAM DE FERRARIIS SON AND HEIR OF HENRY DE FERRARIIS of Groby, knight
Writ to the escheator to take proof of the age of the said William and to warn Joan late the wife of Henry de Ferrariis, knight, John de Rome, clerk, and John de Morehous, clerk, in whose custody are the lands of the said heir’s inheritance by the king’s commitment, to be present at the proof. 5 April, 17 Richard II [1394].
BEDFORD. Proof of age taken at Luton, Wednesday before St Mark, 17 Richard II [1394].
William Lammare, aged 51 years and more, says that the said heir is 21 years of age and more, having been born in the manor of Hoo, and baptised in the church of Luton in the feast of St Mark, 45 Edward III [25 April 1371]. This the deponent is sure of because on the same feast in the same year he had a son named William born at Stoppesle, who is 21 years of age and more.
John White, aged 49 years and more, John Coket, aged 50 years and more, Thomas Duraunt, aged 53 years and more, and John Bayly, aged 52 years and more, agree with the above, and say that Henry de Ferrariis, father of the said heir, asked Benet, vicar of the said church, to write the day and year of the birth in the missal there, and they are so written.
John Spayne, aged 59 years and more, John Mytton, aged 56 years and more, and William Stratle, aged 60 years and more, agree, and say that they remember because at that time they were journeying on pilgrimage to St Thomas of Canterbury, and during their pilgrimage they were told in London of the birth of the said heir by Robert de Hoo, the heir’s godfather.
John Bastard, aged 58 years and more, agrees, and says that he remembers because at that time a hall of his was burnt down.
Adam Ippyng, aged 54 years and more, John Fusee, aged 57 years and more, and Stephen Neel, aged 53 years and more, agree, and say that they remember because at that time they took over the demesne lands of the manor of Hoo by indenture from Thomas de Hoo, knight, and by the date of the indenture they are sure of the age of the said heir.
As ordered in the above writ, Joan late the wife of Henry de Ferrariis, knight, John de Rome and John de Morehous were warned to be present at the above proof of age.
C. Ric. II File 82 (15)
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- Title: UK and Ireland, Find A Grave Index, 1300s-Current
Publication: Name: http://search.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/sse.dll?dbid=60526&h=141997&indiv=try;
- Title: Joan De Poynings Ferrers, "Find A Grave Index"
Author: "Find A Grave Index," database, FamilySearch (https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QV28-25BS : 16 December 2020), Joan De Poynings Ferrers, ; Burial, Groby, Hinckley and Bosworth Borough, Leicestershire, England, St. Philip and St. James Churchyard; citing record ID 71635181, Find a Grave, http://www.findagrave.com.
Publication: Name: https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QV28-25BS;
- Title: Millennium File
Publication: Name: http://search.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/sse.dll?dbid=7249&h=109011628&indiv=try;
- Title: North America, Family Histories, 1500-2000
Author: Book Title: The Stebbins Genealogy : in two volumes
Publication: Name: http://search.ancestry.com/collections/61157/records/378396;
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