Margaret Seton Countess of Moray

• Preferred Name: Margaret Seton Countess of Moray^{[1] [2] [3] [4] [5] [6] [7]}
  
• Alternate Name: Ogilvy
  
• Gender: F
  
• Birth: 1405 in Seton Castle, Tranent, East Lothian, Scotland at LATI: N5.945 LONG: E2.954 with note: GEDCOM data
  
• Burial: 1471 in Seton, Haddingtonshire, Scotland at LATI: N5.9623 LONG: E2.9393
  
• http://familysearch.org/v1/TitleOfNobility: Baroness of Seton
  
• FSID: L8S7-7LX
  
• Death: 7 FEB 1478 in Carlaverock, Dumfries-shire, Scotland at LATI: N5.0167 LONG: E3.5333 with note: GEDCOM data Standardized
  
• Notes:

  === Life Sketch ===
  SIR JOHN OGILVY OF LINTRATHEN was born about 1402 of Bridgend of Lintrathen, Angus, Scotland, to Sir Walter Ogilvie of Lintrathen (1369-1440) and Isabel Jean Durward Heiress (1380-1421.) He married Margaret Seton about 1429 of Forfar, Angus, Scotland.
  
  John Ogilvy died about 1489 of Airlie, Angusshire, Scotland, age 87.
  
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  Scotland
  
  Wikitree:
  Children: David of Newtoun, Thomas Abbott of Cowpar, Christian Forbes of Pitsligo, Marion Stewart.
  John of Ogilvie of Lentrethin, knight, was a member of the council who signed the indenture between the King and Council and Robert, Lord Erskine, made at Stirling on 10 August, 1440, giving the Castle of Kildromie, and half the Earldom of Mar to Robert Lord Erskine.[1]
  
  MARGARET SETON was born about 1398 of Seton, Haddingtonshire, Scotland, to Lord William Seton (1349-1424) and Lady Janet Dunbar (1380-1430.) She married Sir John Ogilvy about 1429 of Forfar, Angus, Scotland.
  
  Margaret Seton passed away about 1471 of Seton, Haddingtonshire, Scotland, age 73.
  
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  Church at Seton, East Lothian, Scotland
  
  Area, Scotland - Seton, East Lothian - ruins of Seton Chapel
  
  Scotland
  
  Seton Castle
  
  Wikitree:
  It is suggested here that Margaret was born about 1410 daughter to Alexander Seaton of Gordon. (note that a generation earlier John Ogilvy of Inverquharity married Marion Seaton a daughter of Willaim Seaton of Gordon.)
  Margaret is known only as Margaret, Lady Ogilvy, Countess of Moray. It thus appears that she married firstly to James Dunbar, earl of Moray who died about 10 Aug 1430. He was released as a hostage for King James I in 1427 and probably at the time he succeeded to the earldom and married on his return. It is said by MacFarlane but without confirmation that the earl married Katherine or Janet a daughter of Alexander Seaton of Gordon. It thus appears probable that Margaret was that widowed Countess.
  By James Dunbar margaret had two daughters:
  1. Elizabeth, (or Mary or Agnes0 who married before 26 April 1442, to Archibald Douglas, who was created Earl of Moray.
  2. Janet, married, between 1442 and 1446, to James,second Lord Crichton.
  
  After the death of her first husband, Margaret, Countess of Moray married Sir John Ogilvy of Lintrathen about 1431.
  
  Children of John Ogilvy and Margaret Seton:
  
  1. Mariote Ogilvy (1415-)
  2. *SIR ALEXANDER OGILVIE (1416-1497)
  3. Elizabeth Ogilvy of Lintrath (1425-)
  4. Baron James I Ogilvy (1430-1504)
  5. Isobel Ogilvy (1442-)
  +
  
  === All of the people of World Connect have ===
  All of the people of World Connect have this person's name as Marian. However Burke's Peerage has Marian marrying John Ogilvy, who remarried in 1447, implying that Marian had died by then; thus (barring a divorce) Marian could not have married William Baillie. Many World Connect people had the person that married John Ogilvy named Margaret (Burke's states that John's 2nd wife was a Margaret). The daughter of the Seton-Baillie marriage is name Margaret; thus I am assuming that there is a name mixup and this person, who most name "Marian" is really "Margaret". Of course Burke's could be wrong and the wife of John Ogilvy is named Margaret and this person is Marian--or Marian could have divorced (rather than dying) John Ogilvy before 1447 and married William Baillie.
  
  === PEDIGREE RESOURCE FILE, VOL 6, LDS GENEA ===
  PEDIGREE RESOURCE FILE, VOL 6, LDS GENEALOGICAL SOCIETY;
  
  === Complete Peerage has her married to Thom ===
  Complete Peerage has her married to Thomas Dunbar, 3rd Earl of Moray and calls her daughter to William Seton, Lord Seton. Chronologically, it is difficult for her to have been daughter to William Seton and to have married that Thomas and then John Oglivy. Scots Peerage has her married to Thomas Dunbar, 2nd Earl of Moray and then John Oglivy, which seems more likely.
  
  === !#21> Complete Peerage-v9-p175,175/6fn(e ===
  !#21> Complete Peerage-v9-p175,175/6fn(e), (FHL 942 D22cok): #189> Scots Peerage-v1-p113, (FHL 941 D22p); !ASSUMPTION: #21-v9-p175> father possibly Sir William SETON of Seton, otherwise known as William SETON, 1st Laird of Seton (have data-entered as such); `TITLE> Countess of Moray;
  
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  Seton COA
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  === Name Suffix: Countess Of Moray ===
  Name Suffix: Countess Of Moray
  
  === dead ===
  dead
  
  === Marriages and Parents ===
  Marriages and Parents
  January 7, 2023
  
  The way in which John Ogilvy's spouse is spoken of in the Exchequer Rolls of Scotland suggests that the Countess of Moray was the widow of James Dunbar, mother of Elizabeth and Janet Dunbar. See the preface to the Exchequer Rolls of Scotland, vol VI. Exchequer Rolls, vol. VI, pp. cxxxviii-cxxxix. See: https://archive.org/details/rotuliscaccariir06grea/page/n141/mode/2up?q=
  A papal dispensation request for marriage between Alexander Stewart and Margaret Seton, widow of James Dunbar, occurs in 1432. See: https://digital.nls.uk/scottish-history-society-publications/browse/archive/126160624#?c=0&m=0&s=0&cv=241&xywh=-325%2C-1%2C2383%2C2881
  
  Request makes clear that Margaret and Alexander and James Dunbar were all related. The degree of relationships only makes sense if they were all descended from Robert II and Elizabeth Mure, making Margaret's parents Alexander Seton and his wife Elizabeth Gordon. Although the name Margaret is absent and replaced by Janet or Katherine, her parentage to Alexander Seton of Gordon is affirmed by early Scottish histories.
  
  Marion Seton, daughter of William Seton, married a different John Ogilvy, John Ogilvy of Inverquharity. For documentation and argumentation, see https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Seton-414
  
  === !Name,Byr,pla,parents,MD-Ancestry.com 20 ===
  !Name,Byr,pla,parents,MD-Ancestry.com 2002

• m. ABT 1425 in Scotland

• m. ABT 1427

• m. 1442 in Ayrshire, Scotland

1. Margaret Margerie Newton, b. ABT 1432 in Ayrshire, Scotland     d. AFT 23 JUN 1506 in Kilmarnock, Ayrshire, Scotland

1. Title: Legacy NFS Source: Margaret -
   Author: The Scots Peerage; Sir James Balfour Paul {1904-1914, 2000 rev} with Addenda et Corrigenda {2000}, Page number: I:113, VI:303
   Note: Source Media Type: Book
   Page: Migrated from user-supplied source citation: urn:familysearch:source:2736741135
   
2. Title: Legacy NFS Source: Margaret Seton - birth-name: Marion Seton
   Author: Ancestry Family Trees, Name: Online publication - Provo, UT, USA: Ancestry.com. Original data: Family Tree files submitted by Ancestry members.;, Ancestry.com, http://www.Ancestry.com, null, Page number: Ancestry Family Trees
   Note: birth-name: Marion Seton This information comes from 1 or more individual Ancestry Family Tree files. This source citation points you to a current version of those files. Note: The owners of these tree files may have removed or changed information since this source citation was created.
   Page: Migrated from user-supplied source citation: urn:familysearch:source:3247565220
   
3. Title: Legacy NFS Source: Marion Seton - birth-name: Marion Seton
   Author: Ancestry Family Trees, Name: Online publication - Provo, UT, USA: Ancestry.com. Original data: Family Tree files submitted by Ancestry members.;, Ancestry.com, http://www.Ancestry.com, null, Page number: Ancestry Family Trees
   Note: birth-name: Marion Seton This information comes from 1 or more individual Ancestry Family Tree files. This source citation points you to a current version of those files. Note: The owners of these tree files may have removed or changed information since this source citation was created.
   Page: Migrated from user-supplied source citation: urn:familysearch:source:3247565220
   
4. Title: Margaret Ogilvy in entry for John Ogilvy, "Scotland Marriages, 1561-1910"
   Author: "Scotland Marriages, 1561-1910", database, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XTVT-G5P : 11 February 2020), Margaret Ogilvy in entry for John Ogilvy, 1781.
   Publication: Name: https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XTVT-G5P;
   Note: This extracted record was used to create this person in Family Tree.
   
5. Title: Legacy NFS Source: Margaret Seton - Individual or family possessions: birth-name: Margaret Seton
   Note: Individual or family possessions: birth-name: Margaret Seton Individual or family possessions: female Individual or family possessions: birth: 1414; Seton, East Lothian, Scotland Individual or family possessions: death:
   Page: Migrated from user-supplied source citation: urn:familysearch:source:3244720962
   
6. Title: Legacy NFS Source: Margaret -
   Author: Complete Peerage of England, Scotland, Ireland, Great Britain, and the United Kingdom; GE Cokayne, Sutton Publishing Ltd, Page number: IX:176
   Note: Source Media Type: Book
   Page: Migrated from user-supplied source citation: urn:familysearch:source:2736741118
   
7. Title: Margaret Seton Peerage record of marriage
   Author: The peerage
   Publication: Name: http://www.thepeerage.com/p34397.htm#i343966;
   Note: Indicates relationship
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