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William de Keith Great Marischal of Scotland
- Preferred Name: William de Keith Great Marischal of Scotland[1] [2] [3] [4] [5] [6] [7] [8] [9] [10] [11] [12] [13] [14] [15] [16] [17] [18] [19]
- Gender: M
- FSID: LZ86-YTM
- Birth: ABT 1389 in Dunnottar Castle, Stonehaven, Kincardineshire, Scotland at LATI: N6.9646 LONG: E2.2086 with note: standardization
- Title+Of+Nobility: 1458 in Stonehaven, Aberdeenshire, Scotland at LATI: N7.1508 LONG: E2.0948 with note: GEDCOM data
- Burial: 1464 in Dunnottar, Kincardineshire, Scotland at LATI: N6.95 LONG: E2.2333
- Death: 16 MAR 1464 in Dunnottar Castle, Stonehaven, Kincardineshire, Scotland at LATI: N6.9646 LONG: E2.2086
- Christening: in Kincardine, Inverness-shire, Scotland at LATI: N7.2167 LONG: E3.7667
- Notes:
=== Life Sketch ===
Sir William Keith, succeeded his father [Lord Robert de Keith] between 2 July 1430 and 20 May 1431.
In a charter dated 20 May 1442, he conveyed to Robert de Keth, Knight, his eldest son, whom failing, to William, John, or Alexander, brothers of the said Robert, the lands of Keith, Garvock, Dunottar, Fetteresso, Strathechin, Culpersow, Kintore, and Aden, together with the offices of Marischal of Scotland and Sheriff of Kincardine.
Between 1446 and July 1451 he was made a Lord of Parliament as LORD KEITH. The date of creation can only be approximately ascertained. In an official report of evidence regarding a dispute between the family of Skene of Skene and that of the Marischal, held before a Court in the Cathedral of Aberdeen on 22 September 1446, he is styled Sir William Keith, Marischal.
In a series of charters granted by King James II on 6 July 1451, he is styled Lord Keith, and appears as the latest on the list of Peers after William, Lord Hay, the constable, who was created before 10 april 1450. His creation, therefore was then probably of recent date.
He was one of the guarantors of a treaty of peace with the English in 1457, and on 6 August of that year he witnesses the confirmation of a treaty by King James II as Lord Keith. Later he was raised a step in the Peerage, as in a royal charter dated 7 October of the following year (1458), he is designed ‘dilectus consanguineus noster’ EARL of MARISCHAL and 1ST LORD KEITH.
He died probably before Witsunday 1463, and certainly before 16 March 1463-64.
He married a lady named Mary who is usually said to have been the daughter of Sir James Hamilton of Cadzow, but there is no evidence of this, and the dates make it doubtful.
On 26 April 1414, Pope Benedict XIII issued a commission to grant dispensation for the marriage of ‘William de Ketht’ of St. Andrews diocese and Marjorie Fraser, daughter of Alexander Fraser of Moray diocese. This is probably the wife of Sir William Keith, and the daughter of Alexander Fraser of Kinnell and Lovat, who, as stated above, appears to have married about the same time Sir William’s youngest sister, Marion.
She was dead before August 1442.
Thy had issue:
1. Sir Robert, in whose favour his father resigned his estates and offices in 1442. He is said to have died v.p. in 1446, ...
2. William, who succeeded as second Earl Marischal.
3. John, mentioned in a charter by his father dated 20 May May 1442.
4. Alexander, mentioned in the same charter with his elder brother John.
5. Janet, married, first to John Leslie, Master of Rothes; secondly, to Thomas, second Lord Innermeath. Based on the ages of her husbands, this Janet is most likely to be the daughter of William, Second Earl, and she has been moved to his family.
6. Egidia, married to James, second Lord Forbes, and was still a widow 14 August 1473.
Source: THE SCOTS PEERAGE, ed. by Sir James Balfour Paul, Vol IV, Edinburgh, 1906, pp. 39-41.
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I also found reference to his wife as the above Marjorie Fraser, dau of Alexander Fraser and Elizabeth Keith, The marriage date is correct, 26 April 1414, but to Marjorie Fraser.
=== 17th GGF ===
Wow! Marshall of Scotland is a pretty big job and title.
=== !Scott's Peerage Keith, Earl of Marischa ===
!Scott's Peerage Keith, Earl of Marischal vol 6 pg 25-65; Sir William Keith, in a charter dated 20 May 1442, conveyed to Robert, knight his son, whom failing, to William, John or Alexander, brothers of the said Robert, the lands of Keith, Garvock, Dunottar, Fetteresso, Strathechin, Culpersow, Kintore, and Aden, together with the offices of Marischal of Scot-land and Sheriff of Kincardine. Between 1446 and Jul 1451 he was made a Lord of Parliament as Lord Keith. He was one of the guarantors of a treaty of peace with the English in 1457, and on 6 Aug of that year he witnesses the confirmation of a treaty by King James II. Later he was raised a step in the Peerage, as in a royal charter dated 7 Oct of the following year (1458), he is designed `dilectus consanguineus noster' Earl of Marischal and Lord Keith. He died Whitsunday 1463-64. He married a lady named Mary who is usually said to have been the daughter of Sir James Hamilton of Cadzow. On 26 Apr 1414, Pope Benedict XIII issued a commission to grant dispensation for the marriage of `William de Ketht' of St Andrews diocese and Marjorie Fraser of Moray diocese.
=== William (Sir), knighted by 1 April 1426. ===
William (Sir), knighted by 1 April 1426. [Burke's Peerage]
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Burke's Peerage indicates that William's wife was "possibly or conceivably" Marjory Fraser, but while some World Connect also indicate Ms Fraser, many World Connect sites have a Mary Hamilton as William's wife, which makes sense because William's wife was supposedly named Mary or Mariota--not Marjory. I have used Ms Hamilton as mother while retaining Ms Fraser as a "2nd wife" to indicate the other possibility.
=== it is highly unlikely that William Keith ===
it is highly unlikely that William Keith ever married twicee. See Complete peerage argument under the Earls of Marischal. mariota in 1436 is the mother of Robert. mariota is not a derivitive of marjory but is of Mary. mary is reffered to in 1444 as the late wife. The marjoy Fraser who married in 26 apr 1414 to a William keith was not assoiciated with either of the above mentioned. I do not know who that William Keith was
=== William Keith , second Earl Marischal ===
The eldest surviving son, succeeded his father about 1163-1164, sat in Parliament in 1167 and 1169, and to subsequent Parliaments of King James III, till 1479. He had a Great Seal charter of the lands of Garvals and others, 1476. He was still alive on 10 December 1482, when his son was fore speaker for him, but in 1483 he was succeeded by his son, the third Earl.
This Earl married Mariota, or Muriella, third daughter of Thomas, second Lord Erskine.
Source: Keith, Earl Marischal (2) (pg. 40 & 41). - Ancestry.com
=== During the turbulent time of discord in ===
During the turbulent time of discord in the minority of James II between the Regent Livingstone and the Chancellor Crichton he preserved the peace of the North Country (usually an area of great discord)Because of his success and excellence in administration he was made earl Marischal.
=== Sir William Keith, succeeded his father ===
Sir William Keith, succeeded his father [Lord Robert de Keith] between 2 July 1430 and 20 May 1431.
In a charter dated 20 May 1442, he conveyed to Robert de Keth, Knight, his eldest son, whom failing, to William, John, or Alexander, brothers of the said Robert, the lands of Keith, Garvock, Dunottar, Fetteresso, Strathechin, Culpersow, Kintore, and Aden, together with the offices of Marischal of Scotland and Sheriff of Kincardine.
Between 1446 and July 1451 he was made a Lord of Parliament as LORD KEITH. The date of creation can only be approximately ascertained. In an official report of evidence regarding a dispute between the family of Skene of Skene and that of the Marischal, held before a Court in the Cathedral of Aberdeen on 22 September 1446, he is styled Sir William Keith, Marischal.
In a series of charters granted by King James II on 6 July 1451, he is styled Lord Keith, and appears as the latest on the list of Peers after William, Lord Hay, the constable, who was created before 10 april 1450. His creation, therefore was then probably of recent date.
He was one of the guarantors of a treaty of peace with the English in 1457, and on 6 August of that year he witnesses the confirmation of a treaty by King James II as Lord Keith. Later he was raised a step in the Peerage, as in a royal charter dated 7 October of the following year (1458), he is designed ‘dilectus consanguineus noster’ EARL of MARISCHAL and 1ST LORD KEITH.
He died probably before Witsunday 1463, and certainly before 16 March 1463-64.
He married a lady named Mary who is usually said to have been the daughter of Sir James Hamilton of Cadzow, but there is no evidence of this, and the dates make it doubtful.
On 26 April 1414, Pope Benedict XIII issued a commission to grant dispensation for the marriage of ‘William de Ketht’ of St. Andrews diocese and Marjorie Fraser, daughter of Alexander Fraser of Moray diocese. This is probably the wife of Sir William Keith, and the daughter of Alexander Fraser of Kinnell and Lovat, who, as stated above, appears to have married about the same time Sir William’s youngest sister, Marion.
She was dead before August 1442.
Thy had issue:
1. Sir Robert, in whose favour his father resigned his estates and offices in 1442. He is said to have died v.p. in 1446, ...
2. William, who succeeded as second Earl Marischal.
3. John, mentioned in a charter by his father dated 20 May May 1442.
4. Alexander, mentioned in the same charter with his elder brother John.
5. Janet, married, first to John Leslie, Master of Rothes; secondly, to Thomas, second Lord Innermeath. Based on the ages of her husbands, this Janet is most likely to be the daughter of William, Second Earl, and she has been moved to his family.
6. Egidia, married to James, second Lord Forbes, and was still a widow 14 August 1473.
Source: THE SCOTS PEERAGE, ed. by Sir James Balfour Paul, Vol IV, Edinburgh, 1906, pp. 39-41.
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ID: Merged with a record that used the ID 219960.0^2/2.0
=== !Weis. 256-36. William Keith was the f ===
!Weis. 256-36. William Keith was the first Earl Marischal.
=== One wife only ===
William never married Margaret Fraser she is his Grandmother..His first and only wife is Mary Hamilton..Margaret Fraser wed William Keith 1351--Posted 13 February 2017 by sandracraig1
=== Most of the information on Kings & Queen ===
Most of the information on Kings & Queens of Scotland, Ireland, Wales,England and other parts of the British Isles & Europe and on the variousRoyal & Noble families in this family tree has come from one or more ofthe following sources: BURKE'S Genealogical and Heraldic History of the PEERAGE BARONETAGE ANDKNIGHTAGE. Edited by Peter Townend. Burke's Peerage Limited, London "Burke's Peerage" popular name. Also information from Burke's Landed Gentry Burke's Peerage Limited, London Debrett's Peerage and Baronetage, ISBN: 0312125577 Debrett's Peerage Ltd 86/88 Edgware Road London W2 2YW For further information on Debrett's e-mail people@debretts.co.uk Phone # +44 (0)171 916 9633. http://www.debretts.co.uk/index.html Directory of Royal Genealogical Data (Edinburgh Mirror) http://www.tardis.ed.ac.uk/~bct/public/genealogy/royal/ Version: 29 Jul 99 Author: Brian Tompsett Back: Royal and Noble genealogy Copyright (c) 1994 - 1999 This is part of Royal and Noble Genealogical Data on the Web at http://www.dcs.hull.ac.uk/public/genealogy/gedcom.html, Royal Genealogies -- Menu http://ftp.cac.psu.edu/~saw/royal/royalgen.html Denis R. Reid 149 Kimrose Lane Broadview Heights, Ohio 44147-1258 Internet Email address: ah189@cleveland.freenet.edu (216) 237-5364 Burke's possibly now published or distributed by Almanach De Gotha Ltd, 9 Cork Street,Mayfair, London, W1X 1PD United Kingdom. Tel (UK) 0181 404 2489 (International) +44(0) 181 404 2489 http://www.almanachdegotha.com/main_page.htm
=== Son of Robert Keith and heiress of Troup ===
Son of Robert Keith and heiress of Troup. [Marlene Wenrick BURR LINE b.c.1389, d. 1463; son of Sir Robert Keith and heiress of Troup; m.Mary/Marjory Hamilton; father of Gille/Egidia who m. James Forbes.[Richard Tracy d. 1444; son of Robert Keith and Baroness of Troup; m. ??Hamilton; father of: 1. Egidia 2. Robert 3. John 4. Alexander 5. William[Dennis Homan d. 1476; son of Robert Keith and ?? Troupe; m. MaryHamilton; father of Mary who m. William Murray. [Bob Zimmerman b.c. 1389,d. bef 16 Mar 1463/4; son of Robert Keith; m. Mary Fraser; father of: 1.William who m. Mary/Marjory Hamilton and Muriella Erskine 2. Robert whom. Janet Seton 3. Margaret who m. James Lindsay [Sharen Neal
=== SIR WILLIAM DE KEITH, son and heir, seem ===
SIR WILLIAM DE KEITH, son and heir, seems to have been knighted before 1 April 1426. He succeeded his father as Marshal of Scotland before 1430. By deed dated at Dunottar, 20 May 1442, with the King's special licence, he granted to his eldest son, Sir Robert de Keith, knight, all the lands of Keith, &c., with the offices of Marshal of Scotland and Sheriff of Kincardine, to hold to the said Sir Robert and his brothers William, John and Alexander, in tail successively, according to the tenor of the ancient charter of King Robert the Bruce. He married Mary, whose parentage is not known. He died probably in October 1444. [Complete Peerage VIII:474-5]
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Sir William Keith, succeeded his father between 2 July 1430 and 20 May 1431. In a charter dated 20 May 1442, he conveyed to Robert de Keth, Knight, his eldest son, whom failing, to William, John, or Alexander, brothers of the said Robert, the lands of Keith, Garvock, Dunottar, Fetteresso, Strathechin, Culpersow, Kintore, and Aden, together with the offices of Marischal of Scotland and Sheriff of Kincardine. Between 1446 and July 1451 he was made a Lord of Parliament as Lord Keith. The date of creation can only be approximately ascertained.
In an official report of evidence regarding a dispute between the family of Skene of Skene and that of the Marischal, held before a Court in the Cathedral of Aberdeen on 22 September 1446, he is styled Sir William Keith, Marischal. In a series of charters granted by King James II on 6 July 1451, he is styled Lord Keith, and appears as the latest on the list of Peers after William, Lord Hay, the Constable, who was created before 10 April 1450. His creation therefore was then probably of recent date. He was one of the guarantors of a treaty of peace with the English in 1457, and on 6 August of that year he witnesses the confirmation of a treaty by King James II as Lord Keith. Later he was raised a step in the Peerage, as in a royal charter dated 7 October of the following year (1458), he is designed 'dilectus consanguineus noster' Earl of Marischal and Lord Keith. He died probably before Whitsunday 1463, and certainly before 16 March 1463-64.
He married a lady named Mary who is usually said to have been the daughter of Sir James Hamilton of Cadzow, but there is no evidence of this, and the dates make it doubtful. On 26 April 1414, Pope Benedict XIII issued a commission to grant dispensation for the marriage of 'William de Ketht' of St Andrews diocese and Marjorie Fraser, daughter of Alexander Fraser, of Moray diocese. This is probably the wife of Sir William Keith, and the daughter of Alexander Fraser of Kinnell and Lovat, who, as stated above, appears to have married about the same time Sir William's youngest sister, Marion. She was dead before August 1442. [The Scots Peerage VI:39-40]
Preferred Parents:
Father: Robert de Keith Great Marischal of Scotland, b. ABT 1363 in Dunottar, Kincardineshire, Scotland d. 20 JUL 1430 in Dunnottar, Kincardineshire, Scotland
Mother: Lady Matilda Troup Baroness of Dunottar, b. 1360 in Banffshire, Scotland d. 2 JUN 1413 in 1685825, Kincardineshire, Scotland
Family 1: Mary Marjorie Fraser, b. 1395 in Lovat Castle, Kilmorack, Iverness-shire, Scotland d. JUL 1442 in Dunotter Castle, Kincardineshire, Scotland
- m. 26 APR 1414 in Dunnottar, Kincardineshire, Scotland
- Robert Keith Lord Keith, b. ABT 1415 in DUNNOTTAR CASTLE Kincardine, Aberdeenshire, Scotland d. 22 SEP 1446 in Dunnottar, Kincardineshire, Scotland
Family 2: Mary Hamilton, b. 1395 in Cadzow, Lanarkshire, Scotland d. 1 AUG 1442 in Picardie, France
- m. 26 APR 1414 in Dunnottar, Kincardineshire, Scotland
Sources:
- Title: Legacy NFS Source: Sir William Keith 4th Lord, 1st Earl of Marischal -
Author: Burke's Peerage & Baronetage, 106th Edition, Charles Mosley {1999}, Page number: 1610, 1769
Note: Source Media Type: Book
Page: Migrated from user-supplied source citation: urn:familysearch:source:2736742367
- Title: Web: Netherlands, GenealogieOnline Trees Index, 1000-2015
Publication: Name: https://search.ancestry.com/collections/9289/records/6775307;
Page: Gibb
- Title: Legacy NFS Source: Sir William Keith 4th Lord, 1st Earl of Marischal -
Author: Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists Who Came to America before1700, Seventh Edition, Weis, Frederick Lewis, Genealogical Publishing Co., Inc., Baltimore, 1995, Cheryl Varner Library, Gray Court, SC, Page number: Line 256-36
Page: Migrated from user-supplied source citation: urn:familysearch:source:3248100129
- Title: Web: Netherlands, GenealogieOnline Trees Index, 1000-2015
Publication: Name: https://search.ancestry.com/collections/9289/records/15615665;
- Title: Keith Clan
Publication: Name: https://keithclan.net/information-references/succession-of-the-keiths-as-great-marischals-of-scotland/;
Note: List of Keith Family Earls of Marischal. Note: William the 1st not on this information.
- Title: Midlothian (Edinburgh), Scotland, Extracted Parish Records
Publication: Name: https://search.ancestry.com/collections/5958/records/59839;
- Title: Web: Netherlands, GenealogieOnline Trees Index, 1000-Current
Publication: Name: http://search.ancestry.com/collections/9289/records/32946618;
- Title: The Scots peerage; founded on Wood's edition of Sir Robert Douglas's peerage of Scotland; containing an historical and genealogical account of the nobility of that kingdom by Paul, James Balfour, Sir, 1846-1931, ed. dn pg 39-41
Publication: Name: https://archive.org/details/scotspeeragefoun06paul/page/39/mode/1up?view=theater;
Page: Gibb
- Title: William Earl Marischal Keith in the Scotland, Select Marriages, 1561-1910
Author: Ancestry.com. Scotland, Select Marriages, 1561-1910 [database on-line]. Provo, UT, USA: Ancestry.com Operations, Inc., 2014. Original data: Scotland, Marriages, 1561-1910. Salt Lake City, Utah: FamilySearch, 2013.
Publication: Name: https://search.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/sse.dll?indiv=try&h=1984718&dbid=60144;
Note: Source created by RecordSeek.com
Page: Marriage record between Mariota Muriella Erskine and William Keith the 2nd.
- Title: Wiki Tree
Publication: Name: https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Keith-313;
- Title: Scotland, Select Marriages, 1561-1910
Publication: Name: http://search.ancestry.com/collections/60144/records/1984718;
- Title: Scotland, Select Births and Baptisms, 1564-1950
Publication: Name: http://search.ancestry.com/collections/60143/records/13563131;
- Title: Legacy NFS Source: Sir William Keith 4th Lord, 1st Earl of Marischal -
Author: Stirnet.com, Peter Barns-Graham, Chairman, Name: http://www.stirnet.com;, Page number: Keith01, Keith02, Hamilton01
Note: Peter Barns-Graham, Chairman, Stirnet.com (http://www.stirnet.com).
Page: Migrated from user-supplied source citation: urn:familysearch:source:3246398939
- Title: Midlothian (Edinburgh), Scotland, Extracted Parish Records
Publication: Name: https://search.ancestry.com/collections/5958/records/26586;
Page: Gibb
- Title: Legacy NFS Source: Sir William Keith 4th Lord, 1st Earl of Marischal -
Author: The Scots Peerage; Sir James Balfour Paul {1904-1914, 2000 rev} with Addenda et Corrigenda {2000}, Page number: VI:39-40
Note: Source Media Type: Book
Page: Migrated from user-supplied source citation: urn:familysearch:source:2736741135
- Title: Willem II Lord Keith Earl Marischal in the Web: Netherlands, GenealogieOnline Trees Index, 1000-2015
Author: Ancestry.com. Web: Netherlands, GenealogieOnline Trees Index, 1000-2015 [database on-line]. Provo, UT, USA: Ancestry.com Operations, Inc., 2014. Original data: GenealogieOnline. Coret Genealogie. http://www.genealogieonline.nl/en/: accessed 31 August 2015.
Publication: Name: https://search.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/sse.dll?indiv=try&h=6775307&dbid=9289;
Note: Source created by RecordSeek.com
Page: Vital information on birth, death,spouse and children.
- Title: Legacy NFS Source: Sir William Keith 4th Lord, 1st Earl of Marischal -
Author: Complete Peerage of England, Scotland, Ireland, Great Britain, and the United Kingdom; GE Cokayne, Sutton Publishing Ltd, Page number: VIII:474-475
Note: Source Media Type: Book
Page: Migrated from user-supplied source citation: urn:familysearch:source:2736741118
- Title: Midlothian (Edinburgh), Scotland, Extracted Parish Records
Publication: Name: http://search.ancestry.com/collections/5958/records/59839;
- Title: Aberdeenshire, Scotland, Extracted Parish Records
Publication: Name: http://search.ancestry.com/collections/5835/records/44443;
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