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John Chichester
- Preferred Name: John Chichester[1] [2] [3] [4] [5] [6] [7] [8] [9] [10] [11] [12] [13] [14] [15] [16]
- Gender: M
- FSID: LDLF-N4N
- Birth: 1352 in Chichester, Sussex, England at LATI: N0.8364 LONG: E0.7778
- Death: 1388 in Raleigh, Devon, England at LATI: N0.7365 LONG: E3.7189
- Burial: 1399
- http://familysearch.org/v1/TitleOfNobility: Sir
- Notes:
=== Life Sketch ===
From https://www.wikiwand.com/en/Manor_of_Raleigh,_Pilton
John Chichester (fl.1365)
John Chichester (fl.1365) married in about 1365[9] Thomasine de Raleigh (died 1402), daughter and heiress of Sir John de Raleigh. He was lord of the manors of Treverbin in Cornwall and of Beggerskewish and Donwer in Somerset.[10] According to Sir Alexander Chichester, Bart., he was the son of Sir Roger Chichester, who was knighted in 1346 at the Siege of Calais and later fought at the Battle of Poitiers in 1356.[11] According to the Heralds' Visitation of Devon his father was John Chichester, 7th in descent from Walleran de Cirencester alias Chichester, himself descended from a brother of Robert of Chichester, Bishop of Exeter in 1155-1160. According to the Ledger Book of Tor Abbey, in 1237 Walleran did homage to William de Raleigh for the manor of South Pool.[10]
^ Debrett's Peerage, 1967
^ a b c Vivian, p.172
^ Vivian, p.172; Debrett's Peerage, 1967
=== 2350 1 REFN 2509 ===
2350 1 REFN 2509
=== !NOTE:üole'sist of Devonshire Deven 4 ,p ===
!NOTE:üole'sist of Devonshire Deven 4 ,p403 ;report and transactions Devonshire Assoc.,Devon Pup.Dv75 p 194,195,206,207: Genealogical notes Chichester Fam.,B19A182,p227-230.233.234.325,326Lodge's Peerage of Ireland 1789Ire 3a, v.1 p314,315; Visistations of Devon Devon 2,p.172,638;Burke's Peerage 1949 Eng. p401 p862 Prince Worthies p 605 Westcotes Devons: p638 prince Worthies. !NOTE:Sir John assumed the arms of Raleigh , oad of Traverbin,Cornwall,Beggerkewish,Donwer and Somerset Visit of Devon 1620 ,dorset 1623 mss of Sir Alexander P B Chichester, Bart. at College of Arms Inq PM Thomasin Talbot 5 Hen. IV no.36 PM Sir John Chichester 16 Henry VI, no 55
=== !Archive Record Gertrude R. Gillmor- Pol ===
!Archive Record Gertrude R. Gillmor- Pole's Hist of Devonshire, Devon 4 p.403;
Report & Transactions Devonshire Assoc-Devon Pub D v.75 p.194, 195,206, 207;
Gen Notes, Chichester Fam B19A182 p.227-230, 233, 234, 325, 326.
=== !DEATH: Date: By 1399 - Doc. Line 52-37 ===
!DEATH: Date: By 1399 - Doc. Line 52-37 !CHILDREN: Of John Chichester and Thomasine Raleigh John - Doc. Line 52-37 !MARRIAGE: John Chichester and Thomasine Raleigh - Doc. Line 52-37
=== !Archive Record Family Group Sheet submi ===
!Archive Record Family Group Sheet submitted by: Mrs. Gertrude R. Gillmor, 335 S. 2nd E., SLC, UT (Fam. Rep: Sheryl Ann Gillmor 17 gg dau) Pole's Hist. of Devonshire, Devon 4, p. 403 Report and Transactions Devonshire Assoc., Devon Pub. D, v. 75, p. 194, 195, 206, 207 Genealogical Notes Chichester Fam., B19A182, p. 227-230, 233, 234, 325, 326 Lodge's Purage of Ireland, 1789, Ire 3a v.a, p. 314,315 Visitations of Devon 2 p. 172,638 Burkis Purage 1949, Eng. p. 401, p. 862 Prince Worthiss, p. 605 Wescotes Devons p. 638 Prince Worthiss NOTE: The parentage of both of the above couple (John Chichester and Thomasine De Raleigh) has been incorrectly stated at various times and in various sources as John son of John, and Thomasine daughter of (Sir) William Raleigh. These are INCORRECT. See special treatise on this subject in B19A182 and Devon Pub. D, quoted above The above husband's sealing as a child to his claimed father John on 18 Sep 1940 would therefore be in error.
=== My PAF Notes ===
from thepeerage.com, 3/2009:
Sir John Chichester1
M, #249775
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Last Edited=7 Nov 2007
Sir John Chichester is the son of Sir Roger de Cicester.1 He married Thomasine Raleigh , daughter of Sir John Raleigh , in 1384.1
He acquired Raleigh through his wife.1 He lived at Donwer, Somerset, England .1
Child of Sir John Chichester and Thomasine Raleigh
John Chichester + d. 14 Dec 14371
Citations
[S37 ] Charles Mosley, editor, Burke's Peerage, Baronetage & Knightage, 107th edition, 3 volumes (Wilmington, Delaware, U.S.A.: Burke's Peerage (Genealogical Books) Ltd, 2003), volume 1, page 1157. Hereinafter cited as Burke's Peerage and Baronetage, 107th edition.
=== The parenture of both of the above coupl ===
The parenture of both of the above couple has been incorrectly stated at various times and in various sources. See special troutize on this subject in B19A182 and Devon Pub. D, quoted above. The above husband's sealing as a child to his claim
=== == Sources ==* ===
== Sources ==* Evelyn, Helen. ''[[Space:The History of theEvelyn Family|The History of the Evelyn Family]]'' (Eveleigh Nash, London, 1915) [https://archive.org/stream/historyofevelynf00eveluoft#page/370 Page 370]
* Ancestry Family Trees (Provo, UT, USA: Ancestry.com) Family Tree files submitted by Ancestry members. http://trees.ancestry.ca/tree/14163491/person/68601550
=== !Weis. 52-37. ===
!Weis. 52-37.
Preferred Parents:
Father: Roger Chichester, b. 1336 in Chichester, Sussex, England d. 1370 in Donwer, Somersetshire, England
Mother: Beatrix Shandos, b. ABT 1336 in Chichester, Sussex, England, United Kingdom d. 1379 in Devon, England, United Kingdom
Family 1: Thomasine Raleigh, b. 1359 in Rayleigh, Essex, England d. 1 AUG 1402 in Spreyton, Devon, England
- m. 1384 in Pilton, Devon, England
- John Chichester Lord of Raleigh, b. 9 JAN 1385 in Raleigh, Devon, England d. 14 DEC 1437 in Raleigh, Devon, England
Sources:
- Title: Ancestry Family Trees
Author: Ancestry Family Tree
- Title: Visitations of Devon (Partial)
Author: Unknown, Visitations of Devon (Partial), Page 638.
- Title: Roots Web World Connect Project
Author: Roots Web World Connect Project, database: dwil.
- Title: Chichester Sketch Pedigree #3-Chart
Author: Unknown, Chichester Sketch Pedigree #3-Chart.
- Title: World Family Tree, Vol. 14
Author: Genealogy.com., World Family Tree, Vol. 14, Tree #3302.
- Title: Millennium File
Publication: Name: https://search.ancestry.ca/collections/7249/records/10637734;
- Title: Chichester Family History #2
Author: Unknown, Chichester Family History #2, Pages 233, 234.
- Title: Chichester Family History #1
Author: Unknown, Chichester Family History #1, Pages 13, 14, 19-22.
- Title: U.S. and International Marriage Records, 1560-1900
Author: Source number: 489.000; Source type: Electronic Database; Number of Pages: 1; Submitter Code: GMF
Publication: Name: https://search.ancestry.ca/collections/7836/records/229697;
- Title: GenCircles: www.gencircles.com
Author: Cliff Shaw, GenCircles: www.gencircles.com.
- Title: World Family Tree, Vol. 18
Author: Genealogy.com, World Family Tree, Vol. 18, Tree #467.
- Title: Web: Netherlands, GenealogieOnline Trees Index, 1000-Current
Publication: Name: https://search.ancestry.ca/collections/9289/records/6720127;
- Title: Family Search: www.familysearch.org
Author: L.D.S., Family Search: www.familysearch.org.
- Title: Chichester Family
Author: Chichester Family.
- Title: IPMs for Thomasia widow of John Chichestre
Author: King's College London, 2014. | Mapping the Medieval Countryside [online]. Available at http://www.inquisitionspostmortem.ac.uk/view/inquisition/18-970/ [Accessed: 29/6/2020]
Publication: Name: http://www.inquisitionspostmortem.ac.uk/view/inquisition/18-970/;
Note: THOMASIA WIDOW OF JOHN CHICHESTRE
970 Writ mandamus . ‡ 8 June 1404 [Waker].
SOMERSET. Inquisition. Crewkerne. 21 June. [Otery].
Jurors: John Howys ; Henry Tort ; Robert Crukerne ; Richard Thyward ; John ?Debre ; John Smert ; John Mason ; John Spore ; John Brasyeter ; Thomas Sterr ; William Weye ; and William Bysshop .
John Eve, chaplain , Henry Stoute and Thomas Yeo, clerk , held the manors of Beggearn Huish and Dunwear in their demesne as of fee, and by their deed granted them after the death of John Chichestre to Thomasia for life with remainder to the heirs of the bodies of John and Thomasia. She held them and married William Talbot, knight . They are held of John , son and heir of John earl of Huntingdon , of his manor of Barnstaple in Devon by knight service; annual values, Beggearn Huish 100s., Dunwear £20. Barnstaple is in the king’s hands owing to the minority, being held of the king in chief of the crown by knight service.
She died on 31 July 1402 . John son of John Chichestre and Thomasia and son and heir of both is aged 17 years.
William Talbot has held the lands since her death, title unknown.
C 137/44/36 mm. 1-2
ENHANCEMENT OF TEXT: The text of this IPM which appeared in the print edition of CIPM XVIII has been enhanced in certain respects: see the About pages.
971 Writ mandamus . ‡ 8 June 1404 [Waker].
DEVON. Inquisition. Exeter. 18 June. [Frenshe].
Jurors: Walter Pollard ; Richard Foldehay ; William Gybbe ; John Bot ; Geoffrey Gyffard ; Richard Mounceaux ; William Lywere ; John Aysh ; Thomas Rayshlegh ; Ralph Dabernon ’; John Frye ; and Thomas Spyrwaye .
John Eve, chaplain , Henry Stoute and Thomas Yeo, clerk , held the manors of Raleigh by Barnstaple and Ruxford Barton in their demesne as of fee with 1 messuage, 4 ferlings and 60 a. wood in Coxleigh, and granted them to Thomasia for life after the death of John, with remainder to the heirs of John and Thomasia. Raleigh is held of John , son of John earl of Huntingdon , of the manor of Barnstaple by knight service, annual value £20. Barnstaple, held of the king in chief of the crown by knight service, is in the king’s hands owing to the minority. Ruxford is held of Philip Courtenay of his manor of Bradninch by knight service, and the holdings in Coxleigh of William Beaumont of his manor of Shirwell by knight service, annual values 10 marks and 13s.4d.
She married William Talbot, knight . Date of death, heir and tenure by William Talbot as above.
C 137/44/36 mm. 3-4
ENHANCEMENT OF TEXT: The text of this IPM which appeared in the print edition of CIPM XVIII has been enhanced in certain respects: see the About pages.
Page: Mentioned in this source.
- Title: Chichester Sketch Pedigree #2-Chart
Author: Unknown, Chichester Sketch Pedigree #2-Chart.
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