John Fraser of Touchfraser

• Preferred Name: John Fraser of Touchfraser^{[1] [2] [3] [4] [5] [6]}
  
• Alternate Name: John Of Touch Fraser
  
• Alternate Name: John Fraser Laird Of Aberbothnot
  
• Alternate Name: John Fraser
  
• Alternate Name: John Frazer
  
• Alternate Name: John ( of Touchfraser) Fraser
  
• Alternate Name: John Fraser
  
• Gender: M
  
• FSID: LCPJ-DGJ
  
• Find+A+Grave: with note: John Fraser BIRTH 1317 Scotland DEATH unknown BURIAL Burial Details Unknown MEMORIAL ID 241600704 · View Source
  
• Deed: 19 JUN 1306 in Methven, Perth (Scotland) at LATI: N6.4165 LONG: E3.5805 with note: GEDCOM data from merge
  
• Birth: 1317
  
• Death: 1370 in Stirling, Stirlingshire, Scotland at LATI: N6.1181 LONG: E3.9378
  
• Burial: 1370 in Scotland
  
• Notes:

  === Life Sketch ===
  John Fraser of Touchfraser (also Tulchfraser) was the oldest son of Alexander Fraser Lord High Chamberlin of Scotland for King Robert I of Scotland (Robert the Bruce) and Mary Bruce, sister of Robert the Bruce.
  John's mother was held captive by the English, imprisoned in a cage, until 1314. His parents married in 1316 and John was born about 1317 at Touchfraser.
  John's mother Mary Bruce died when he was very young, before he was 5 years old. His name may have been Fraser but he was part of the large Bruce clan all the same. King Robert I (Robert the Bruce) was his uncle but looked upon him as a grandson, identifying him as 'nepos' (grandson) in a charter of the forest of Craigie, in the thanage of Cowie.
  John's father, Alexander, died on August 10th or 11th of 1332 in the Battle of Dupplin Moor, as did his older cousin Lord Robert Bruce and the Guardian of Scotland, Donald of Mar. The Scottish losses where high that day estimated at 2000 to 13,000, the whole kingdom would have been in mourning. John was about fifteen years of age when he succeeded his father. Orphaned, with neither parent living, and still a minor, having not yet reached his age of majority, John would have come under the protection of the crown (and the Guardian of Scotland) until deemed old enough to handle the responsibilities himself.
  John is known to have died young, but not before marrying. His wife's name is not known; but he left one daughter, Margaret born in 1337. Margaret was his heiress, she married William De Keith, Great Marischal of Scotland, and brought with her the lands of Touch Fraser and others, including Cowie.
  
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  John Fraser of Touchfraser1
  M, #107873, b. circa 1317
  Last Edited=16 Feb 2013
  John Fraser of Touchfraser was born circa 1317.2 He was the son of Alexander Fraser of Touchfraser and Cowie and Lady Mary Bruce.2 He died, young a daughter and heir:.1 He died, in early manhood.2
  He lived at Zouch Fraser.3
  Child of John Fraser of Touchfraser
  Margaret Fraser+4,3 b. 1337
  Citations
  [S37] BP2003 volume 3, page 3511. See link for full details for this source. Hereinafter cited as. [S37]
  [S11] Alison Weir, Britain's Royal Families: The Complete Genealogy (London, U.K.: The Bodley Head, 1999), page 208. Hereinafter cited as Britain's Royal Families.
  [S2] Peter W. Hammond, editor, The Complete Peerage or a History of the House of Lords and All its Members From the Earliest Times, Volume XIV: Addenda & Corrigenda (Stroud, Gloucestershire, U.K.: Sutton Publishing, 1998), page 15. Hereinafter cited as The Complete Peerage, Volume XIV.
  [S11] Alison Weir, Britain's Royal Families, page 219, says she is son of John's father, Alexander, but Cockayne, vol I, page 79 also states this and vol XIV page 15 corects this.
  
  John Fraser of Touch Fraser succeeded as a minor, being about fifteen years of age at the time of his father's death. He is mentioned in a charter of the forest of Craigie, in the thanage of Cowie, where he is called 'nepos' by Robert I. He died young. His wife's name is not known; but he left one daughter and heiress, Margaret, married to William De Keith, Great Marischal of Scotland, who got with her the lands of Touch Fraser and others, including Cowie. [The Scots Peerage VII:429]
  
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  John Fraser was born circa 1317.1 He was the son of Sir Alexander Fraser and Lady Mary Bruce.1 He died, in early manhood.1 He lived at Zouch Fraser.2
  
  Child of John Fraser
  
  Margaret Fraser+3,2
  Citations
  
  1.[S11] Alison Weir, Britain's Royal Family: A Complete Genealogy (London, U.K.: The Bodley Head, 1999), page 208. Hereinafter cited as Britain's Royal Family.
  2.[S2] Peter W. Hammond, editor, The Complete Peerage or a History of the House of Lords and All its Members From the Earliest Times, Volume XIV: Addenda & Corrigenda (Stroud, Gloucestershire, U.K.: Sutton Publishing, 1998), page 15. Hereinafter cited as The Complete Peerage, Volume XIV.
  3.[S11] Alison Weir, Britain's Royal Family, page 219, says she is son of John's father, Alexander, but Cockayne, vol I, page 79 also states this and vol XIV page 15 corects this.
  Links
  
  http://thepeerage.com/p10788.htm#i107873
  http://www.baronage.co.uk/bphtm-03/fraser02.html
  http://wc.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=john_d_newport&id=I16918
  http://www.catrionafraser.com/fraser.html
  
  BIO
  BIO: from http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/SCOTTISH%20NOBILITY%20LATER.htm#MargaretGrahamMenteithdied1372 as of 12/7/2018
  
  ALAN de Menteith (-before 13 Mar 1309). Hostage, with his younger brother Pi
  
  Memorial
  John Fraser of Touch Fraser succeeded as a minor, being about fifteen years of age at the time of his father's death. He is mentioned in a charter of the forest of Craigie, in the thanage of Cowie, wh
  
  === died in English captivity ===
  died in English captivity
  
  === This Stewart line merged in Murdach, Duk ===
  This Stewart line merged in Murdach, Duke of Albany. Ref: The Story of the Stewarts, The Stewart Society, 1901, 1993, Table I.
  
  === A24256-4 A 49 The Scots Peerage Vol 1 P. ===
  A24256-4 A 49 The Scots Peerage Vol 1 P. 429
  
  === Nickname: 7th Earl of Menteith
  Nam ===
  Nickname: 7th Earl of Menteith
  Name Suffix: Earl of Menteith
  
  === ALAN (DE MENTEITH), EARL OF MENTEITH [SC ===
  ALAN (DE MENTEITH), EARL OF MENTEITH [SCT], son and heir. With his younger brother Piers, he was hostage in 1296 for his father's fidelity to Edward I. He (or possibly his father), as Earl of Menteith, was summoned to join the division commanded by the Prince of Wales, at Dunfermline, in the English invasion of 1303. He supported Bruce in his bid for the Scottish throne, 1306, and was one of the hostages for the safety of the Earl of Strathern, who had previously been carried off to Inchmahome, and forced to do homage to Bruce. Edward escheated the Earldom of Menteith, and granted it (22 May) to John de Hastinges, to whose custody the Earl was committed in November following. He married Marjory, whose parentage is unknown. He died before 13 March 1308/9. [Complete Peerage VIII:664-5]
  
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  Alan, Earl of Menteith, is first named on record as a hostage in England for the good behaviour of his father. He and his brother Peter went in the train of Edward I, in 1296, to London, and in the followin year were equipped by him at all points as his squires, and accompanied him to the campaign in Flanders of 1297. The date of his succession to the earldom is not certain. An Earl of Menteith was summoned to meet Prince Edward at Dunfermline in 1303 and 1304, but it is not certain whether Earl Alexander or Earl Alan is meant. The latter, however, was Earl not long afterwards. He was provided as one of the heirs of entail to the earldom of Fife by Duncan, tenth and last Earl of Fife of the ancient race. The charter itself is not known to be extant, but it is referred to in the indenture of 30 March 1371 between Isabella, Countess of Fife, daughter of EArl Duncan, and Robert Stewart, Earl of Menteith, husband of Earl Alan's granddaughter. The entail was probably made before 1306, when Earl Duncan married, and in that year also events took place which stirred up the national life. Earl Alan joined Bruce at the beginning of his struggle for Scottish Independence and his earldom was forfeited and given by Edward I to John Hastings. This was on 22 May 1306, a month before the conflict of Methven. He is said to have been taken prisoner there, but this is doubtful, though he apparently surrendered later and was committed to John Hastings, to be imprisoned in the Castle of Abergaveny or elsewhere. The Earl died in captivity, though the exact date is not known, but it must have been before 16 March1308-9, when the Parliament of Scotland stated that the heir of the earldom was then a ward. The name of his wife was Marjory, who survived him, but her family has not been ascertained, and his only child so far as certainly known was a daughter. [The Scots Peerage VI:134-135]
  
  === John Fraser of Touch Fraser succeeded as ===
  John Fraser of Touch Fraser succeeded as a minor, being about fifteen years of age at the time of his father's death. He is mentioned in a charter of the forest of Craigie, in the thanage of Cowie, where he is called 'nepos' by Robert I. He died young. His wife's name is not known; but he left one daughter and heiress, Margaret, married to William de Keith, Great Marischal of Scotland, who got with her the lands of Touch Fraser and others, including Cowie. [The Scots Peerage VII:429]
  
  === Name Suffix: Sir Knight ===
  Name Suffix: Sir Knight
  
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  === 1275 ===
  1275
  
  === From Ancestral File (TM), data as of 2 J ===
  From Ancestral File (TM), data as of 2 January 1996.
  
  === 7th Earl of Menteith ===
  7th Earl of Menteith
  
  === Son of Mary Bruce and Sir Alexander Fras ===
  Son of Mary Bruce and Sir Alexander Fraser; father of Margaret who m. SirWilliam Keith. [Suzanne Doig BURR LINE Son of Alexander Fraser and MaryBruce; father of Margaret Fraser. [Dennis Homan Son of Alexander Fraserand Mary Bruce; m. Mary; father of Margaret who m. William de Keith.[Hamish Maclaren

1. Margaret Fraser - Heiress of Touchfraser, b. 1310 in Touchfraser, Stirlingshire, Scotland     d. in Castle Dunnottar, Stonehaven, Kincardineshire, Scotland

1. Title: Mary Bruce From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia - mother of John Fraser
   Publication: Name: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mary_Bruce;
   Note: Mary Bruce (c. 1282 – 1323) was the younger sister of Robert the Bruce, King of Scots. During the First War of Scottish Independence, she was captured by the English and imprisoned in a cage at Roxburgh Castle for about four years. She was the daughter of Robert de Brus, 6th Lord of Annandale, and Marjorie, Countess of Carrick. [1] Along with the king's other female relatives (Christina Bruce, Marjorie Bruce, his wife Elizabeth de Burgh and supporter Isabella MacDuff), she was captured and handed over to the English by the Earl of Ross. By order of King Edward I of England, she was then held prisoner in an iron or wooden cage exposed to the public view at Roxburgh Castle. Isabella MacDuff was imprisoned in a similar cage at Berwick Castle.[2][3] She was transferred to assumably better conditions in 1310. This was not necessarily a humane move, it has been suggested that by this stage Bruce was gaining strength, she was potentially a valuable hostage, and the English did not want her dying of exposure. There was also a high likelihood of her being rescued from Roxburgh. She was eventually released in exchange for English noblemen captured at the Battle of Bannockburn. Family She married, firstly, Sir Neil Campbell, one of her brother's loyal supporters, and had the following known issue: [4] Iain (or John[4]) Dougal[5] Duncan (?)[4] She married, secondly, Alexander Fraser of Touchfraser and Cowie and had the following known issue: John of Touchfraser William of Cowie and Durris. Media representations She was played by Dee Hepburn in the 1996 film The Bruce. References Foundation for Medieval Genealogy https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/SCOTLAND.htm#MaryBrucediedbefore22Sep1323 Education Scotland, "Elizabeth de Burgh and Marjorie Bruce" Archived 2015-07-11 at the Wayback Machine, Education Scotland (a Scottish government agency, "the national body in Scotland for supporting quality and improvement in learning and teaching"). Retrieved July 11, 2015. David Cornell, "Bannockburn: The Triumph of Robert the Bruce", Yale University Press,, 2009. Retrieved July 11, 2015. Weir, Alison, 1951- (2008). Britain's royal families : the complete genealogy. London: Vintage Books. ISBN 978-0-09-953973-5. OCLC 297799851. Weir, Alison, 1951- (2008). Britain's royal families : the complete genealogy. London: Vintage Books. ISBN 978-0-09-953973-5. OCLC 297799851. Peter Traquair Freedom's Sword Caroline Binham Robert the Bruce J R Tomlin A Kingdom's Cost
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2. Title: Legacy NFS Source: John (Of Touchfraser) Fraser -
   Author: Magna Charta Barons and Their American Descendants, 1898, Browning, Charles D., Clearfield Company, Baltimore, 1969, Cheryl Varner Library, Gray Court, SC, Page number: p. 145
   Page: Migrated from user-supplied source citation: urn:familysearch:source:3248163197
   
3. Title: Alexander Fraser of Touchfraser and Cowie From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia - father of John Fraser
   Publication: Name: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alexander_Fraser_of_Touchfraser_and_Cowie;
   Note: Alexander Fraser of Touchfraser and Cowie (died 11 August 1332) was a member of the Scottish nobility who served as the Lord Chamberlain of Scotland and also as the Sheriff of Stirling and Sheriff of Kincardine.[1] He was a descendant of the Clan Fraser members deriving from Oliver Castle. Alexander died at the Battle of Dupplin Moor. Life Alexander was the son of Andrew Fraser of Touchfraser and Beatrix le Chen and the grandson of Richard Fraser of Touchfraser. He was the Lord Chamberlain of Scotland between 1325 and 1329. Lands King Robert the Bruce conferred vast lands including the Barony of Cowie, Barony of Cluny and Barony of Kinnaird upon Alexander Fraser, who was his chamberlain at least as late as 1319.[2] The major transport routes over these lands in the Middle Ages were two ancient trackways known as the Elsick Mounth[3] and Causey Mounth.[4] Family He married in c.1316 Mary, widow of Sir Nigel Campbell, the daughter of Sir Robert de Brus, 6th Lord of Annandale and Marjorie, Countess of Carrick and had the following known issue: John of Touchfraser William of Cowie and Durris See also Cowie Castle Muchalls Castle Citations Lineage of Fraser Family R.W.Billings, 1901 C.M.Hogan, 2008 A. Watt, 1985 References Robert William Billings and John Hill Burton (1901) The Baronial and Ecclesiastical Antiquities of Scotland, Oliver and Boyd C. Michael Hogan (2007) Causey Mounth, The Megalithic Portal, editor A. Burnham [1] Lineage of Fraser Family [2] Archibald Watt (1985) Highways and Byways around Kincardineshire, Stonehaven Heritage Society Flag of ScotlandBiography icon This Scottish biographical article is a stub. You can help Wikipedia by expanding it.
   
4. Title: Legacy NFS Source: Sir John Fraser -
   Author: Magna Charta Barons and Their American Descendants, 1898, Browning, Charles D., Clearfield Company, Baltimore, 1969, Cheryl Varner Library, Gray Court, SC, Page number: p. 145
   Page: Migrated from user-supplied source citation: urn:familysearch:source:3248100187
   
5. Title: Legacy NFS Source: John (of Touch) Fraser - birth: about 1317; Touch, Stirling, Scotland, United Kingdom
   Author: IGI
   Note: birth: about 1317; Touch, Stirling, Scotland, United Kingdom
   Page: Migrated from user-supplied source citation: urn:familysearch:source:2044620706
   
6. Title: Foundation for Medieval Genealogy - Fraser
   Publication: Name: https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/SCOTTISH%20NOBILITY%20UNTITLED.htm#AlexanderFraserdied1332;
   Note: 1. ANDREW Fraser . Fraser indicates that the descent of the sheriffship of Stirling, the inheritance of lands in Ugtrethrestrother, and the assedation of lands in Torry, all indicate that Alexander was the son of Andrew Fraser[521]. He further suggests that the Andrew Fraser in question was the son of Richard Fraser, son of John Fraser (see above), from whom he must have inherited the estates of Touch-fraser. However, there does not appear to be any surviving primary source which confirms that this hypothesis is correct. m ---. The name of Andrew’s wife is not known. Andrew & his wife had four children: a) ALEXANDER Fraser (-killed in battle Dupplin 1332). "Thomas de Grey" requested the lands of "Thom Fraser frere Mons Symon Fraser…et les terres Alex Fraser qui fu le fitz Andr Fraser" by charter dated 1306[522]. Bernard Abbot of Arbroath granted lands of Torry for life to "Alexander Fraser filius quondam domini Andree Fraser, militis" by charter dated 1312[523]. "…Alexandro Fraser et Roberto de Keith mareschallo Scotiæ, militibus" witnessed the charter dated 12 Apr 1316 under which Robert I King of Scotland granted annual revenue from the farms of Perth to Perth Blackfriars[524]. Chamberlain of Scotland from 1319 to [1326]. "…Jacobo domino de Duglas, Gilberto de Haya constabulario nostro, Alexandro Fraser camerario nostro militibus" witnessed the charter dated 1 Mar "anno nostri vicesimo" (1326) under which "Robertus…rex Scottorum" confirmed donations to Scone abbey[525]. John of Fordun’s Scotichronicon (Continuator) records that "…Alexandro Fraser…" were killed at Duplin Moor 11 Aug 1332 fighting Edward Balliol[526]. m (1316) as her second husband, MARY Bruce, widow of NEIL Campbell of Lochow, daughter of ROBERT de Brus Lord of Annandale & his first wife Margaret Ctss of Carrick ([1273]-before 22 Sep 1323). Robert I King of Scotland granted land at Auchincarnie to "Alexandro Fraser militi" and "heredibus suis inter ipsum et quondam Mariam de Brwce sponsam suam, sororem nostram" by charter dated 22 Sep 1323[527]. Alexander & his wife had two children: i) JOHN Fraser ([1316/17]-after 1334). Robert I King of Scotland granted the forest of Cragy to "Alexandro Fraser militi…et Joanni filio suo, nepoti nostro" by charter dated 6 Apr 1327[528]. m ---. John & his wife had one child: (a) MARGARET Fraser . "Sir William of Keith marischal of Scotland" granted the lands of Mathers to Alexander of Berkley, with the consent of "Margaret his wife", by charter dated 3 May 1351[529]. m WILLIAM de Keith, son of EDWARD Keith Marshal & his first wife Isabella Sinton (-[1410]). ii) WILLIAM Fraser (-killed in battle Neville's Cross 17 Oct 1346). Robertson indexes a charter from David II King of Scotland which records a grant "of the thanedom of Collie…[which] was Alexander Frazer’s his father’s" to "William Frazer and Margaret Murray his spouse"[530]. John of Fordun’s Scotichronicon (Continuator) records that "Johannes Ranulphi comes Moraviæ ac etiam comes de Strathern constabularius Scotiæ…David filius et heres David de Lindsay…Willelmus Fraser…" were killed at Durham 17 Oct 1346[531]. m MARGARET Moray, daughter of ANDREW Moray of Bothwell & his wife ---. Robertson indexes a charter from David II King of Scotland which records a grant "of the thanedom of Collie…[which] was Alexander Frazer’s his father’s" to "William Frazer and Margaret Murray his spouse"[532]. - FRASER FAMILY of COWIE and DURRIS[533]. b) ANDREW FRASER (-killed in battle Halidon 19 Jul 1333). John of Fordun’s Scotichronicon (Continuator) names "Andreas, Simon et Jacobus Fraser fratres" were among those killed "XIV Kal Aug" in 1333 at "bellum de Halidona"[534]. c) SIMON Fraser (-killed in battle Halidon 19 Jul 1333). Barbour’s The Brus records "Schir Alexander the Fraser…and his brothir Symon"[535]. John of Fordun’s Scotichronicon (Continuator) records that "Simonem Fraser et Robertum de Keth" captured Perth from the forces of King Edward Balliol "Non Oct" in 1332 and that "Simon Fraser" was among those who defeated the king at Annan 16 Dec 1332[536]. John of Fordun’s Scotichronicon (Continuator) names "Andreas, Simon et Jacobus Fraser fratres" were among those killed "XIV Kal Aug" in 1333 at "bellum de Halidona"[537]. m MARGARET, daughter of [--- Earl of Caithness & his wife ---]. Fraser records that Simon Fraser married "Margaret co-heiress of an Earl of Caithness", suggesting that her father must have been Earl Magnus[538]. From his text, it is difficult to ascertain the source on which this information is based. From a chronological point of view, assuming that her parentage is correctly stated, it seems more likely that she was the daughter of Earl John. d) JAMES FRASER (-killed in battle Halidon 19 Jul 1333). John of Fordun’s Scotichronicon (Continuator) names "Andreas, Simon et Jacobus Fraser fratres" were among those killed "XIV Kal Aug" in 1333 at "bellum de Halidona"[539].
   Page: Names parents and grandparents, and sibling of John Fraser . Also identifies his only child Margaret.