Maude de Ros

• Preferred Name: Maude de Ros^{[1] [2] [3] [4] [5]}
  
• Gender: F
  
• http://familysearch.org/v1/TitleOfNobility: Baroness Welles
  
• FSID: LY9T-HKB
  
• Death: 9 DEC 1388 in Skendleby, Lincolnshire, England at LATI: N3.2079 LONG: E0.1436
  
• Birth: 9 DEC 1338 in Helmsley, Yorkshire, England at LATI: N4.2467 LONG: E1.0558 with note: find my past and vitals
  
• Burial: AFT 9 DEC 1388 in Carmelite Friars, London, Middlesex, England at LATI: N1.51 LONG: E0.12 with note: find my past and vitals
  
• Notes:

  === Life Sketch ===
  Maud de Ros, Lady Welles
  Also Known As: "Matilda" the Latin form of her name
  Birthdate: 1328
  Birthplace: Helmsley, Yorkshire, England
  Death: December 09, 1388 (59-60)
  Carmelite Friars, London, , England
  Immediate Family:
  Daughter of William de Ros, 2nd Lord de Ros of Helmsley and Margery de Badlesmere, Baroness De Ros
  Wife of John de Welles, 4th Baron Welles
  Mother of Margery le Scrope; Anne Welles, Countess of Ormond and John de Welles, 5th Baron Welles
  Sister of Joan Ross; Margaret de Ros; Elizabeth de Ros, Baroness of Zouche; Lord William de Ros; Thomas de Ros, 4th Baron de Ros of Helmsley; Sir John de Ros and Robert de Ros « less
  
  About Maud de Ros, Lady Welles
  John de Welles married (post-nuptial settlement 1344/5) Maud, probably daughter of William de Ros, 2nd Lord Ros, by Margery, sister and coheir of Giles (de Balesmere), 2nd Lord Badlesmere, 1st daughter of Bartholomew, 1st Lord Badlesmere. John died 11 October 1361, aged 27. Maud died 9 December 1388. (1)
  
  Children
  
  Margery de Welles+. Married Sir Stephen Scrope, Knight
  Sir John de Welles Knight, 5th Baron de Wells+. Married Alianore de Mowbray
  Anne Welles+1 d. a 1396. Married James Butler, 3rd Earl of Ormonde
  Citations
  
  Cokayne's Complete Peerage, 2nd Edition, Vol.XIIB, p. 441
  Links
  
  http://cybergata.com/roots/3784.htm
  http://thepeerage.com/p18915.htm#i189144
  
  === Source: (1) John S. Wurts, Magna Charta, ===
  Source: (1) John S. Wurts, Magna Charta, III, (Brookfield Publishing, Philadelphia, 1958), 340., (2) David Faris, Plantagenet Ancestry of 17th Century Colonists, (Genealogical Publishing Company, 1996, Baltimore).
  
  === marriage may 1386 ===
  marriage may 1386
  
  === SORLELY'S PEDIGREES (GS NUMBER Q929.242 ===
  SORLELY'S PEDIGREES (GS NUMBER Q929.242 SO68) P.50, 51; ANCESTRAL FILE, LDS GENEALOGICAL SOCIETY;
  
  === My PAF Notes ===
  from thepeerage.com, 3/2009:
  Maud de Ros1
  F, #189144, d. 9 December 1388
  Maud de Ros|d. 9 Dec 1388|p18915.htm#i189144|William de Ros, 2nd Lord Ros of Helmsley|d. 3 Feb 1342/43|p10696.htm#i106952|Margery de Badlesmere|b. c 1306|p859.htm#i8581|William de Ros, 1st Lord Ros of Helmsley|b. c 1255\nd. fr 12 May 1316 - 16 Aug 1316|p15169.htm#i151688||||Bartholomew de Badlesmere, 1st Lord Badlesmere|b. c 1275\nd. 14 Apr 1322|p2361.htm#i23603|Margaret de Clare|b. c 1287\nd. 1333|p356.htm#i3559|
  Last Edited=19 Apr 2006
  Consanguinity Index=0.0%
  Maud de Ros was the daughter of William de Ros, 2nd Lord Ros of Helmsley and Margery de Badlesmere .2 She married John de Welles, 4th Lord Welles, son of Adam de Welle, 3rd Lord Welles and Margaret (?) , circa 1344/45. She died on 9 December 1388.2
  From circa 1344/45, her married name became de Welles.1
  Child of Maud de Ros and John de Welles, 4th Lord Welles
  Anne Welles + d. a 13961
  Citations
  [S6 ] G.E. Cokayne; with Vicary Gibbs, H.A. Doubleday, Geoffrey H. White, Duncan Warrand and Lord Howard de Walden, editors, The Complete Peerage of England, Scotland, Ireland, Great Britain and the United Kingdom, Extant, Extinct or Dormant, new ed., 13 volumes in 14 (1910-1959; reprint in 6 volumes, Gloucester, U.K.: Alan Sutton Publishing, 2000), volume X, page 122. Hereinafter cited as The Complete Peerage.
  [S6 ] Cokayne, and others, The Complete Peerage, volume XII/2, page 441.
  
  === Faris in "Plantagenet Ancestry", p. 277 ===
  Faris in "Plantagenet Ancestry", p. 277 says that John de Welles, 3rd Lord Welles, married Maud, probable daughter of William de Ros, 2nd Lord Ros of Helmesley; one of John and Maud's children was John de Welles, 5th Lord Welles, b. 1352. Her ancestry is from "The Complete Peerage" & Weis's "Ancestral Roots" & "Magna Charta Surities."
  
  === Ancestral File Number: MQSP-8W ===
  Ancestral File Number: MQSP-8W
  
  Information on Maud, John and their son is from Noss, p. 48.
  
  === !Plantagenet Ancestry of Seventeenth-Cen ===
  !Plantagenet Ancestry of Seventeenth-Century Colonists. The Descent from the Later Plantagenet Kings of England, Henry III, Edward I, Edward II, and Edward III, of Emigrants from England and Wales to the North American Colonies before 1701 by David Faris First Edition
  
  === Ancestral File Number: MQSP-8W ===
  Ancestral File Number: MQSP-8W
  
  === Information on Maud, John and their son ===
  Information on Maud, John and their son is from Noss, p. 48.
  
  === From Douglas Richardson on Margaret "Maud" de Ros (Roos) ===
  ↑ taken from a 2004 Gen-Medieval Rootsweb post by Douglas Richardson, Salt Lake City, Utah. Context for the description provided in a fuller extract:
  
  ...I showed that Maud de Welles' grandson, Henry le Scrope, was styled "kinsman" by King Henry V of England. Again, assuming that Maud de Welles was a Roos, King Henry V of England and Henry le Scrope would be related in the 4th and 4th degrees of kinship (that is 3rd cousins), by virtue of common descent from Bartholomew de Badlesmere, Knt., 1st Lord Badlesmere (died 1322).
  
  At that point, a deadend seemed to be hit. Recently, however, I was going through the fascintating multi-volume series, Catalogue of Seals in the British Museum, by Walter de Gray Birch. In Volume 3 (1894), pg. 651, Mr. Birch included the description of a surviving seal of a certain Matildis de Well' [Maud de Welles], who he identified as being the widow of Sir John de Well[es], of Lincolnshire. This would be Maud, wife of John de Welles, 4th Lord Welles. The seal was evidently taken from a document taken 1373, during the period of Lady [Welles]' widowhood. According to Mr. Birch, the seal has a shield of arms on it. The dexter side (usually reversed for the husband's arms) is uncertain. The sinister side (usually reserved for the woman's arms) display the arms of Roos, namely three water-bougets, two and one. I believe this seal is conclusive evidence that Maud de Welles was a Roos.
  
  Special acknowledgement go to Mr. Walter de Gray Birch for his painstaking job of transcribing the details of thousands of medieval seals in the British Museum. Now that was a medieval genealogist!
  
  === !BIR: Bk, Medieval Knight by Stephen Tur ===
  !BIR: Bk, Medieval Knight by Stephen Turnbull.

• m. ABT 1351 in Ormond's Island, County Kerry, Ireland

1. Margery Welles, b. 1350 in Bonthrope, Lincolnshire, England     d. 29 MAY 1422 in Yorkshire, England

1. Title: Wikitree Sources - Margaret de Ros
   Author: Sources ↑ 1.0 1.1 Douglas Richardson. Royal Ancestry: A Study in Colonial and Medieval Families, 5 vols., ed. Kimball G. Everingham, (Salt Lake City, UT: the author, 2013), vol. IV, pages 493-494 ROOS #9; page 496 ROOS #9.iv. ↑ 2.0 2.1 2.2 2.3 2.4 2.5 Richardson, Royal Ancestry, (2013), vol. V, page 331 WELLES #10, Maud de Roos (or Ros). ↑ 3.0 3.1 Douglas Richardson. Magna Carta Ancestry: A Study in Colonial and Medieval Families, 4 vols., ed. Kimball G. Everingham. 2nd edition. (Salt Lake City, UT: the author, 2011), vol. IV, page 303, WELLES 6, Maud de Roos (or Ros). ↑ taken from a 2004 Gen-Medieval Rootsweb post by Douglas Richardson, Salt Lake City, Utah. Context for the description provided in a fuller extract: (in collaborate) Richardson, Douglas. Magna Carta Ancestry: A Study in Colonial and Medieval Families, 4 vols., ed. Kimball G. Everingham. 2nd edition. Salt Lake City, UT: the author, 2011. See also WikiTree's source page for Magna Carta Ancestry. Richardson, Douglas. Royal
   Publication: Name: https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Ros-38;
   Note: Bibliography Cokayne, George Edward (1949). The Complete Peerage, edited by Geoffrey H. White. Vol. XI. London: St. Catherine Press. Richardson, Douglas (2011). Everingham, Kimball G. (ed.). Magna Carta Ancestry: A Study in Colonial and Medieval Families. Vol. I (2nd ed.). Salt Lake City. ISBN 978-1449966379. Richardson, Douglas (2011). Everingham, Kimball G. (ed.). Magna Carta Ancestry: A Study in Colonial and Medieval Families. Vol. III (2nd ed.). Salt Lake City. ISBN 978-1449966393.
   
2. Title: C.P. Addition: Maud de Roos [died 1388], wife of John de Welles, Knt., 4th Lord Welles
   Author: Google groups, Medieval Genealogy
   Publication: Name: https://groups.google.com/g/soc.genealogy.medieval/c/D_VGi60N2WE;
   
3. Title: Wikipedia -William Ros, 2nd Baron de Ros (1285-1343); father of Maud
   Author: Bibliography Cokayne, George Edward (1949). The Complete Peerage, edited by Geoffrey H. White. Vol. XI. London: St. Catherine Press. Richardson, Douglas (2011). Everingham, Kimball G. (ed.). Magna Carta Ancestry: A Study in Colonial and Medieval Families. Vol. I (2nd ed.). Salt Lake City. ISBN 978-1449966379. Richardson, Douglas (2011). Everingham, Kimball G. (ed.). Magna Carta Ancestry: A Study in Colonial and Medieval Families. Vol. III (2nd ed.). Salt Lake City. ISBN 978-1449966393.
   Publication: Name: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_de_Ros,_2nd_Baron_de_Ros;
   Note: William Ros, 2nd Baron Ros of Helmsley (c. 1285 – 3 February 1343) William de Ros married, before 25 November 1316, Margery De Badlesmere (c.1306 – 18 October 1363), eldest daughter of Bartholomew de Badlesmere, 1st Baron Badlesmere, with Margaret, daughter of Sir Thomas de Clare, with whom he had two sons and three daughters: * William, who succeeded his father as Baron. * Thomas, who succeeded his brother as Baron. * Margaret, who married Sir Edward de Bohun. * Maud, who married John de Welles, 4th Lord Welles. * Elizabeth, who married William la Zouche, 2nd Baron Haryngworth.
   
4. Title: The Peerage
   Author: Citations [S6] G.E. Cokayne; with Vicary Gibbs, H.A. Doubleday, Geoffrey H. White, Duncan Warrand and Lord Howard de Walden, editors, The Complete Peerage of England, Scotland, Ireland, Great Britain and the United Kingdom, Extant, Extinct or Dormant, new ed., 13 volumes in 14 (1910-1959; reprint in 6 volumes, Gloucester, U.K.: Alan Sutton Publishing, 2000), volume X, page 122. Hereinafter cited as The Complete Peerage. [S6] Cokayne, and others, The Complete Peerage, volume XII/2, page 441. [S474] FamilySearch, online http://www.familysearch.com. Hereinafter cited as FamilySearch. [S22] Sir Bernard Burke, C.B. LL.D., A Genealogical History of the Dormant, Abeyant, Forfeited, and Extinct Peerages of the British Empire, new edition (1883; reprint, Baltimore, Maryland: Genealogical Publishing Company, 1978), page 572. Hereinafter cited as Burkes Extinct Peerage.
   Publication: Name: http://www.thepeerage.com/p18915.htm#i189144;
   Note: Maud de Ros1 F, #189144, d. 9 December 1388 Last Edited=16 Sep 2014 Consanguinity Index=0.0% Maud de Ros was the daughter of William de Ros, 2nd Lord de Ros of Helmsley and Margery de Badlesmere.2 She married John de Welles, 4th Lord Welles, son of Adam de Welle, 3rd Lord Welles and Margaret (?), circa 1344/45. She died on 9 December 1388.2 Children of Maud de Ros and John de Welles, 4th Lord Welles Anne de Welles+1 d. a 1396 Margery de Welles+3 d. 29 May 1422 John de Welles, 5th Baron Welles+4 b. 20 Apr 1352, d. 26 Aug 1421 Citations
   
5. Title: Maud de Roos (1333-1388), Our Royal, Titled, Noble, and Commoner Ancestors
   Author: https://our-royal-titled-noble-and-commoner-ancestors.com/p381.htm#i11420
   Publication: Name: https://our-royal-titled-noble-and-commoner-ancestors.com/p381.htm#i11420;
   Note: Maud de Roos [1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11) Last Edited 4 Apr 2020 F, #11420, b. circa 1333, d. 9 December 1388 Father Sir William de Roos, 2nd Lord Roos, Sheriff of Yorkshire, Constable of Wark Castle [2,3,4,12,6,7,8,13,10,11] b. c 1288, d. 3 Feb 1343 Mother Margery de Badlesmere [3,12,7,13,11] b. c 1306, d. 18 Oct 1363 Maud de Roos was born circa 1333 at of Helmsley, Yorkshire, England. [3] She married Sir John de Welles, 4th Lord Welles, son of Sir Adam de Welles, 3rd Lord Welles and Margaret Bardolph, circa 1351; They had 1 son (Sir John, 5th Lord Welles) and 2 daughters (Margery, wife of John de Huntingfield, & of Sir Stephen, 2nd Lord Scrope of Masham; & Anne, wife of James le Boteler, 3rd Earl of Ormond). [2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11] Maud de Roos died on 9 December 1388 at of Cumberworth & Skendleby, Lincolnshire, England. [3,7,11] Family: Sir John de Welles, 4th Lord Welles b. 23 Aug 1334, d. 11 Oct 1361 Children: Anne Welles+ [2,14,4,7,8,11] d. bt 26 Jun 1397 - 13 Nov 1399 Margery Welles+ [14,6,7,10,11] d. 29 May 1422 Sir John Welles, 5th Baron Welles+ [15,14,7,11] b. 20 Apr 1352, d. 26 Aug 1421 Citations: 1. [S3123] Unknown author, Some Early English Pedigrees, by Vernon M. Norr, p. 48; Wallop Family, p. 163; Stemmata Robertson, p. 221. 2. [S5] Douglas Richardson, Plantagenet Ancestry, p. 177. 3 [S15] Douglas Richardson, Magna Carta Ancestry, p. 874. 4. [S16] Douglas Richardson, Magna Carta Ancestry, 2nd Edition, Vol. I, p. 379-380. 5. [S16] Douglas Richardson, Magna Carta Ancestry, 2nd Edition, Vol. III, p. 452. 6. [S16] Douglas Richardson, Magna Carta Ancestry, 2nd Edition, Vol. IV, p. 9-10. 7. [S16] Douglas Richardson, Magna Carta Ancestry, 2nd Edition, Vol. IV, p. 303. 8. [S4] Douglas Richardson, Royal Ancestry, Vol. II, p. 49. 9. [S4] Douglas Richardson, Royal Ancestry, Vol. IV, p. 493. 10. [S4] Douglas Richardson, Royal Ancestry, Vol. IV, p. 601-602. 11. [S4] Douglas Richardson, Royal Ancestry, Vol. V, p. 330. 12. [S16] Douglas Richardson, Magna Carta Ancestry, 2nd Edition, Vol. III, p. 450-451. 13. [S4] Douglas Richardson, Royal Ancestry, Vol. IV, p. 491-492. 14. [S15] Douglas Richardson, Magna Carta Ancestry, p. 874-875. 15. [S5] Douglas Richardson, Plantagenet Ancestry, p. 758.
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