John de Welles

• Preferred Name: John de Welles^{[1] [2]}
  
• Alternate Name: John de Wells
  
• Gender: M
  
• Burial: AFT 11 OCT 1361 in Lincoln, Lincolnshire, England at LATI: N3.2316 LONG: E0.5394 with note: Lincoln Cathedrale
  
• Death: 11 OCT 1361 in Welle, Lincolnshire, England
  
• Occupation: Member of Parliament15 DEC 1357
  
• FSID: LT2C-DVS
  
• Occupation: Member of Parliament20 NOV 1360
  
• Title (Nobility): with note: Description: Lord Welles
  
• Title (Nobility): 1345 with note: Description: 4th Baron Welles
  
• Birth: 23 AUG 1334 in Bonthorpe, Lincolnshire, England at LATI: N3.2299 LONG: E0.2242
  
• Notes:

  === Life Sketch ===
  John de Welles, 4th Lord Welles was born on 23 August 1334 at Bonthorpe, Lincolnshire, England.
  He was the son of Adam de Welle, 3rd Lord Welles and Margaret (?)
  He married Maud de Ros, daughter of William de Ros, 2nd Lord de Ros of Helmsley and Margery de Badlesmere, circa 1344/45.
  He died on 11 October 1361 at age 27.
  He gained the title of 4th Lord Welles.
  
  Children of John de Welles, 4th Lord Welles and Maud de Ros
  - Anne de Welles+1 d. a 1396
  - Margery de Welles+3 d. 29 May 1422
  - John de Welles, 5th Baron Welles+4 b. 20 Apr 1352, d. 26 Aug 1421
  
  http://thepeerage.com/p18915.htm#i189143
  
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  Sir John de Welles, 4th Lord Welles
  M, b. 23 August 1334, d. 11 October 1361
  Father Sir Adam de Welles, 3rd Lord Welles b. c 1306, d. 1345
  Mother Margaret Bardolph
  
  Sir John de Welles, 4th Lord Welles was born on 23 August 1334 at Bonthorpe, Willoughby, Lincolnshire, England.1,8,15 He married Maud de Roos, daughter of Sir William de Roos, 2nd Lord Roos, Sheriff of Yorkshire, Constable of Wark Castle and Margery de Badlesmere, circa 1351;
  They had 1 son (Sir John, 5th Lord Welles) and 2 daughters (Margery, wife of John de Huntingfield, & of Sir Stephen, 2nd Lord Scrope of Masham; & Anne, wife of James le Boteler, 3rd Earl of Ormond).2,1,3,6,7,8,10,13,14,15
  Sir John de Welles, 4th Lord Welles died on 11 October 1361 at of Cumberworth & Skendleby, Lincolnshire, England, at age 27.1,8,15
  
  Family
  Maud de Roos b. c 1333, d. 9 Dec 1388
  
  Children
  - Anne Welles+2,17,3,8,10,15 d. bt 26 Jun 1397 - 13 Nov 1399
  - Margery Welles+17,4,5,7,8,9,12,14,15,16 d. 29 May 1422
  - Sir John Welles, 5th Baron Welles+18,17,8,15 b. 20 Apr 1352, d. 26 Aug 1421
  
  https://our-royal-titled-noble-and-commoner-ancestors.com/p381.htm#i11419
  
  === My PAF Notes ===
  from thepeerage.com, 3/2009:
  John de Welles, 4th Lord Welles1
  M, #189143, b. 23 August 1334, d. 11 October 1361
  John de Welles, 4th Lord Welles|b. 23 Aug 1334\nd. 11 Oct 1361|p18915.htm#i189143|Adam de Welle, 3rd Lord Welles|b. 22 Jul 1304\nd. fr 24 Feb 1344/45 - 28 Feb 1344/45|p24493.htm#i244923|Margaret (?)|d. b 1344|p27439.htm#i274386|Adam de Welle, 1st Lord Welles|d. 1 Sep 1311|p21140.htm#i211400|Joan Engaine|d. 1 Jun 1315|p21141.htm#i211401|||||||
  Last Edited=17 Sep 2007
  John de Welles, 4th Lord Welles was born on 23 August 1334 at Bonthorpe, Lincolnshire, England .2 He was the son of Adam de Welle, 3rd Lord Welles and Margaret (?) .2 He married Maud de Ros, daughter of William de Ros, 2nd Lord Ros of Helmsley and Margery de Badlesmere , circa 1344/45. He died on 11 October 1361 at age 27.2
  John de Welles, 4th Lord Welles gained the title of 4th Lord Welles.
  Child of John de Welles, 4th Lord Welles and Maud de Ros
  Anne Welles + d. a 13961
  Citations
  [S6 ] G.E. Cokayne; with Vicary Gibbs, H.A. Doubleday, Geoffrey H. White, Duncan Warrand and Lord Howard de Walden, editors, The Complete Peerage of England, Scotland, Ireland, Great Britain and the United Kingdom, Extant, Extinct or Dormant, new ed., 13 volumes in 14 (1910-1959; reprint in 6 volumes, Gloucester, U.K.: Alan Sutton Publishing, 2000), volume X, page 122. Hereinafter cited as The Complete Peerage.
  [S6 ] Cokayne, and others, The Complete Peerage, volume XII/2, page 441.
  
  === John de Welles, 4th Baron Welles ===
  
  John de Welles, 4th Baron Welles
  Birthdate: circa August 23, 1334
  Birthplace: Bonthorpe, Lincolnshire, England
  Death: Died October 11, 1361 in Welles, Lincolnshire, England
  Immediate Family:
  Son of Sir Adam de Welles, 3rd Lord Welles and Margaret Eleanor Baroness Welles
  Husband of Maud de Ros, Lady Welles
  Father of Catherine Butler, Countess of Ormond; Margery de Welles and John de Welles, 5th Baron Welles
  Brother of Joan de Welles; Margaret Deincourt and Elizabeth de Welles
  Occupation: Baron
  
  ohn de Welles, 4th Lord Welles1
  
  M, #189143, b. 23 August 1334, d. 11 October 1361
  
  John de Welles, 4th Lord Welles was born on 23 August 1334 at Bonthorpe, Lincolnshire, England. He was the son of Adam de Welle, 3rd Lord Welles and Margaret (?). He married Maud de Ros, daughter of William de Ros, 2nd Lord de Ros of Helmsley and Margery de Badlesmere, circa 1344/45. He died on 11 October 1361 at age 27.2 John de Welles, 4th Lord Welles gained the title of 4th Lord Welles.
  
  Children of John de Welles, 4th Lord Welles and Maud de Ros
  
  Margery. Married Stephen le Scrope
  Sir John de Welles Knight, 5th Baron de Wells. Married Alianore de Mowbray
  Anne. d. a 1396. Married James Butler, 3rd Earl of Ormond
  Citations
  
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  JOHN (DE WELLE, afterwards WELLES), LOR ===
  
  JOHN (DE WELLE, afterwards WELLES), LORD WELLES, son and heir, was born 20 April 1352 at Conisholme, Lincs, and baptised that day in the church of St. Peter there. He was retained to stay with the Duke of Lancaster for life, 12 February 1371/2, and accompanied the Duke on his historic but fruitless march from Calais to Bordeaux, August-December 1373; was given seisin of his lands, 6 May 1373; and served on many commissions of the peace, of array, &c., in Lincolnshire from 1374. He was summoned to Parliament from 20 January 1375/6 to 26 February 1420/1, by writs diiected Johanni de Welle, or Welles, such summonses being apparently continued no less than 7 years after his death, viz. from 29 September 1422 to 3 August 1429. He was frequently abroad or serving in the French wars, 1377, 1379-83 and 1387-88; was with the garrison of Berwick-on-Tweed, 1378-79; had licence to go to France "pro Declaratione Honoris ac Nominis sui Salvatione," 22 August 1384; and took part in Richard Il's only expedition to Scotland in 1385. In May 1390 he and Sir David Lindsay, afterwards 1st Earl of Crawford [SCT], performed a notable feat of arms on London Bridge, where Welles was unhorsed at the third course. He was present at Lowestoft, October 1398, on the embarkation of his brother-in-law, the Duke of Norfolk, who had been banished by Richard II; was summoned, 18 May 1400, to perform homage and fealty to Henry IV, was appointed, 11 May 1402, to proclaim, in Lincolnshire, the King's intention of enforcing law and order; and ordered, 8 September 1403, to stop granting livery and making unlawful assemblies. He married, (?) 1stly, before May 1386, Eleanor, sister of John (DE MOWBRAY), EARL OF NOTTINGHAM, and of Thomas (DE MOWBRAY), DUKE OF NORFOLK and EARL MARSHAL, 1st daughter of John, 4th LORD MOWBRAY, by Elizabeth, suo jure (according to modern doctrine) BARONESS SEGRAVE, daughter and heir of John (DE SEGRAVE), 4th LORD SEGRAVE. She, who was born shortly before 25 March 1364, may have been living in 1399. He married, (?) 2ndly, before 13 August 1417, Margery. He died 26 August 1421. She died 8 April 1426. [Complete Peerage XII/2:441-3, (transcribed by Dave Utzinger)]
  
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  John de Welles, 5th baron, was summoned to parliament from 20 January, 1376, to 26 February, 1421. This nobleman served in the expedition made into Flanders in the retinue of John, Duke ofLancaster, in the 27th Edward III [1354], and in the 1st RichardII [1377] was in the wars of France. The next year he was in the garrison of Berwick, under Henry Percy, Earl of Northumberland, its governor. His lordship subsequently obtained license to travel beyond sea, and returning in the 8th Richard II [1385],had leave to go abroad again for the vindication of his honour, having received some affront from a knight in France. He seems to have come home solely to procure letters testimonial vouching for his credit and reputation. After this we find him in the Scottish wars, and in the 19th of the same reign, he was ambassador to Scotland, where, during his sojourn, being at a banquet where deeds of arms becoming the subject of conversation, his lordship exclaimed, "Let words have no place; if ye know not the chivalry and valiant deeds of Englishmen, appoint me a day and place when ye list, and ye shall have experience." This challenge was immediately accepted by David, Earl of Crawford, and London Bridge appointed as the place of combat. The battle was fought on St. George's Day, and the Scottish earl was declared victor. Indeed, he displayed such an extraordinary degree of prowess, that notwithstanding the spear was broken upon his helmet and visage, he remained so immovably fixed in his saddle that the spectators cried out that in defiance of the laws of arms, he was bound thereto. Whereupon he dismounted and got up again and ran a second course, but in the third, Lord Welles was unhorsed and flung to the ground, on which Crawford dismounting, embraced him that the people might understand that he had no animosity, and the earl subsequently visited his lordship with great courtesy until his recovery. Of this Lord Welles nothing further in known than the period of his decease, anno 1421; although for eight years afterwards summonses appear to have been regularly issued to his lordship. But there are other instances upon record of summonses having been directed to barons after their deaths, probably from ignorance that the decease occurred. Lord Welles m. Margaret, or Eleanor, dau. of John, Lord Mowbray, and had two daus., Margaret, and Anne. He was s. by (the son of his deceased eldest son, Eudo, by his wife, Maude, dau. of Ralph, Lord Greystock) his grandson, Sir Leo, or Lionel de Welles.
  
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  === BARONY OF WELLES (IV)
  
  JOHN (DE WELLE), ===
  BARONY OF WELLES (IV)
  
  JOHN (DE WELLE), LORD WELLES, son and heir, was born 23 August 1334 at Bonthorpe, Lincs, and baptised that day in the church of St. Helen, Willoughby, in that co. He was given seisin of his lands, 27 August 1355; was summoned against the Scots, 1355, and was serving overseas, 1359-60. He was summoned to Parliament from 15 December 1357 to 20 November 1360, by writs directed Johanni de Welle. He married (post-nuptial settlement 1344/5) Maud, probably daughter of William (DE ROS),2nd LORD ROS (of Helmsley), by Margery, sister and coheir of Giles (DE BADLESMERE), 2nd LORD BADLESMERE, 1st daughter of Bartholomew, 1st LORD BADLESMERE. He died 11 October 1361, aged 27. Maud died 9 December 1388. [Complete Peerage XII/2:441, (transcribed by Dave Utzinger)]
  
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  John de Welles, 4th baron, summoned to parliament 15 December,1357 to 20 November, 1360. The wardship of this nobleman, who was a minor at his father's decease, was granted to Margaret,widow of William, Lord Ros, of Hamlake. In the 22nd Edward III,although still in minority, he caused his father's executors to purchase a rent of ten pounds per annum from the monks of Bardney, for the behoof of the abbess and nuns of Grenefield,which monastery was founded by his ancestors; in consideration whereof they obliged themselves and their successors to find two fitting priests to celebrate masses, matins, placebo, dirge, and commendation every day in the chapel of our lady, with that their monastery of Grenefield, for the health of the souls of his lordship's predecessors. Lord Welles had livery of his lands in the 29th Edward III, and in for years afterwards, he was in the wars of Gascony. He m. Maud, dau. of the aforesaid Margaret,Lady Ros, d. in 1361, and was s. by his son, John de Welles.
  
  === John de Welles, 5th baron, was summoned ===
  John de Welles, 5th baron, was summoned to parliament from 20 January, 1376, to 26 February, 1421. This nobleman served in the expedition made into Flanders in the retinue of John, Duke of Lancaster, in the 27th Edward III [1354], and in the 1st Richard II [1377] was in the wars of France. The next year he was in the garrison of Berwick, under Henry Percy, Earl of Northumberland, its governor. His lordship subsequently obtained license to travel beyond sea, and returning in the 8th Richard II [1385], had leave to go abroad again for the vindication of his honour, having received some affront from a knight in France. He seems to have come home solely to procure letters testimonial vouching for his credit and reputation. After this we find him in the Scottish wars, and in the 19th of the same reign, he was ambassador to Scotland, where, during his sojourn, being at a banquet where deeds of arms becoming the subject of conversation, his lordship exclaimed, "Let words have no place; if ye know not the chivalry and valiant deeds of Englishmen, appoint me a day and place when ye list, and ye shall have experience." This challenge was immediately accepted by David, Earl of Crawford, and London Bridge appointed as the place of combat. The battle was fought on St. George's Day, and the Scottish earl was declared victor. Indeed, he displayed such an extraordinary degree of prowess, that notwithstanding the spear was broken upon his helmet and visage, he remained so immovably fixed in his saddle that the spectators cried out that in defiance of the laws of arms, he was bound thereto. Whereupon he dismounted and got up again and ran a second course, but in the third, Lord Welles was unhorsed and flung to the ground, on which Crawford dismounting, embraced him that the people might understand that he had no animosity, and the earl subsequently visited his lordship with great courtesy until his recovery. Of this Lord Welles nothing further in known than the period of his decease, anno 1421; although for eight years afterwards summonses appear to have been regularly issued to his lordship. But there are other instances upon record of summonses having been directed to barons after their deaths, probably from ignorance that the decease occurred. Lord Welles m. Margaret, or Eleanor, dau. of John, Lord Mowbray, and had two daus., Margaret, and Anne. He was s. by (the son of his deceased eldest son, Eudo, by his wife, Maude, dau. of Ralph, Lord Greystock) his grandson, Sir Leo, or Lionel de Welles. [Sir Bernard Burke, Dormant, Abeyant, Forfeited and Extinct Peerages, Burke's Peerage, Ltd., London, England, 1883, p. 572, Welles, Barons Welles]
  
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  === John de Welles, 4th baron, summoned to p ===
  John de Welles, 4th baron, summoned to parliament 15 December, 1357 to 20 November, 1360. The wardship of this nobleman, who was a minor at his father's decease, was granted to Margaret, widow of William, Lord Ros, of Hamlake. In the 22nd Edward III, although still in minority, he caused his father's executors to purchase a rent of ten pounds per annum from the monks of Bardney, for the behoof of the abbess and nuns of Grenefield, which monastery was founded by his ancestors; in consideration whereof they obliged themselves and their successors to find two fitting priests to celebrate masses, matins, placebo, dirge, and commendation every day in the chapel of our lady, with that their monastery of Grenefield, for the health of the souls of his lordship's predecessors. Lord Welles had livery of his lands in the 29th Edward III, and in for years afterwards, he was in the wars of Gascony. He m. Maud, dau. of the aforesaid Margaret, Lady Ros, d. in 1361, and was s. by his son, John de Welles. [Sir Bernard Burke, Dormant, Abeyant, Forfeited and Extinct Peerages, Burke's Peerage, Ltd., London, England, 1883, p. 572, Welles, Barons Welles]
  
  Name Suffix: [BARON WELLES]/
  Ancestral File Number: 9G89-41
  
  === Post-nuptial settlement of #1 John and w ===
  Post-nuptial settlement of #1 John and wife Maud Quin of Hil 1344/5 husb wd 24 Feb 1344/5, pr in Lincs Cathedral 4 Apr 1345; #1 John bapt in Ch of St Helen.
  
  === SORLEY'S PEDIGREES (GS NUMBER Q929.242 S ===
  SORLEY'S PEDIGREES (GS NUMBER Q929.242 SO68) P.50, 51; ANCESTRAL FILE, LDS GENEALOGICAL SOCIETY;
  
  === He was Lord of East Breffny, Co. Cavan. ===
  He was Lord of East Breffny, Co. Cavan.
  
  === Source: David Faris, Plantagenet Ancestr ===
  Source: David Faris, Plantagenet Ancestry of 17th Century Colonists, (Genealogical Publishing Company, 1996, Baltimore).
  
  === John de Welles, 4th Baron Welles, summo ===
  John de Welles, 4th Baron Welles, summoned to parliament 15 Dec., 135 7, and 20 Nov., 1360. The wardship of this nobleman, who was a minor at his fat her's decease, was granted to Margaret, widow of William, Lord Ros, of Haml ake. In the 22nd year of Edward III, although still in the minority, he cause d his father's executors to purchase a rent of 10 pounds per annum, from th e monks of Bardney, for the behoof of the abbess and nuns of Grenefield, which m onastery was founded by his ancestors; in consideration whereof they obliged t hemselves, and their successors, to find two fitting priests, to celebrate masse s. matins, placebo, dirge, and commendation, every day in the chapel of our lady , within that their monastery of Grenefield, for the health of their souls o f his lordship's predecessors. Lord Welles had livery of his lands in the 2 9th year of Edward III's reign, and in four years afterwards he was in the war s of Gascony.

• m. ABT 1351 in Ormond's Island, County Kerry, Ireland

1. Margery Welles, b. 1350 in Bonthrope, Lincolnshire, England     d. 29 MAY 1422 in Yorkshire, England

1. Title: IPM of John de Welles
   Author: Great Britain. Calendar of Inquisitions Post Mortem, Vol. 11, 35-38 Edward III: 1361-1365.(London, 1935).
   Publication: Name: https://archive.org/details/cu31924011387895/page/186/mode/2up?q=Welles;
   
2. Title: John de Welles, "Find A Grave Index"
   Author: "Find A Grave Index," database, FamilySearch (https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QK18-2TGD : 15 June 2022), John de Welles, ; Burial, Lincoln, City of Lincoln, Lincolnshire, England, Lincoln Cathedral; citing record ID 140291925, Find a Grave, http://www.findagrave.com.
   Publication: Name: https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QK18-2TGD;