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John Montgomery - Tenth Baron Of Eaglesham
- Preferred Name: John Montgomery - Tenth Baron Of Eaglesham[1] [2] [3] [4] [5] [6] [7] [8] [9] [10] [11] [12] [13] [14] [15] [16] [17]
- Gender: M
- Nickname:
- Burial: JUN 1398 in Kilwinning, Ayrshire, Scotland, United Kingdom at LATI: N5.65 LONG: E4.7167
- The+origin+of+the+Montgomery+name: with note: "Scotland magazine" states the belief that the Montgomery clan of Scotland originated with a Viking named Gomeric (otherwise referred to as Gommeri). Gomeric settled on a hilltop estate in Normandy which was called "Mount Gomeric", or “Mont Gommeri”, which eventually evolved into the Montgomery family name.
The majority of historians opt for a Scandinavian origin of the Montgomery family, according to Luc De Boever, who wrote "The Montgommerys from the Vikings to our Present Day".
For more on this, see https://grantmontgomery.org/more-on-montgomery-genealogy/
and https://grantmontgomery.org/france/
- FSID: LC5Z-592
- Death: 25 JUN 1398 in Kilwinning, Ayrshire, Scotland, United Kingdom at LATI: N5.65 LONG: E4.7167 with note: Did not die at battle of Otterburn
- Marriage (custom): 1361 in Lanarkshire, Scotland at LATI: N5.669 LONG: E3.7837
- Birth: 1338 in Eaglesham, Renfrewshire, Scotland at LATI: N5.7391 LONG: E4.2727 with note: Dropped "United Kingdom", as UK did not come into being until 1800
- Notes:
=== Life Sketch ===
"John Montgomery, 10th Baron of Eaglesham was the distinguished warrior who captured Henry Percy, called Hotspur, at the Battle of Otterburn in 1388. With Percy's ransom he built the castle of Polnoon as well as acquiring the lands of Eglinton and Ardrossan through his marriage to Elizabeth of Eglinton."
https://www.geni.com/people/Sir-John-Montgomerie-10th-Baron-of-Eaglesham/6000000008517729892
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polnoon_Castle
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Henry_Percy_(Hotspur)
John Montgomerie, of Eaglesham
Nicknames:"John Fourth de Montgomery"
Birthdate:circa 1338
Birthplace:Eaglesham, Renfrewshire, Scotland
Death:Died December 1388 in Kilwinning, Ayrshire, Scotland
Immediate Family:
Son of Alexander Montgomerie of Eaglesham and Margaret Dunbar of Douglas
Husband of Elizabeth Eglington
Father of
Sir John Montgomerie, Knight, Lord of Ardrossan;
Alexander de Montgomerie, of Bonnington;
Hugh Montgomerie, of Eaglesham;
daughter of John Montgomerie, of Eaglesham; Anne Montgomerie and 1 other
=== PEDIGREE RESOURCE FILE, VOL 6, LDS GENEA ===
PEDIGREE RESOURCE FILE, VOL 6, LDS GENEALOGICAL SOCIETY;
=== From Ancestral File (TM), data as of 2 J ===
From Ancestral File (TM), data as of 2 January 1996. MARR DATE DISP 4 MAY 1414
=== Notes from the peerage of Scotland https://quod.lib.umich.edu/e/ecco/004896980.0001.000/1:98?rgn=div1;view=fulltext ===
VIII. Sir JOHN MONTGOMERY of E∣gilshame, who married—, daughter and sole heiress of sir Hugh Eglington of that ilk, by Giles his wife, daughter of Walter lord high steward of Scotland, and sister of king Robert II.* by which marriage he be∣came possest of the lordships of Eglington, Ar∣drossan, &c. in Cunningham.
This sir Hugh de Eglington was the lineal representative of an ancient and honourable family of that name, who made a considerable figure in the west of Scotland for many ages, and sir Hugh himself was justiciar of Lothian, anno 1361; but dying without male issue, his great and opulent fortune went with his daugh∣ter to sir John de Montgomery of Egilshame, who thereupon quartered the arms of Egling∣ton with his own, and afterwards was design∣ed by that title.
He was a great patriot, and embraced eve∣ry opportunity of exerting his courage in the service of his country; particularly he and his son sir Hugh were engaged with James earl of Douglas, at the battle of Otte•burn, where the Scots obtained the victory, tho' the brave earl was slain, anno 1388.
Sir John signalized himself in a remarkable manner in that engagement, having, with his own hands, taken prisoner sir Henry Percy, son of the earl of Northumberland,* with whose ransom he built the castle of Punoon, which was afterwards his chief seat in the lordship of Egilshame.
By his said wife he had issue three sons.
1. Sir Hugh, a youth of remarkable cou∣rage and intrepidity, who was slain with his general, the earl of Douglas, at the battle of Otterburn, without issue.
2. Sir John, his father's heir.
3. Alexander,* designed of Bonnington.
He was succeeded by his son,
IX. Sir JOHN MONTGOMERY
=== EVEN: CONC h ransom build Castle of Poln ===
EVEN: CONC h ransom build Castle of Polnoon
EVEN: EVEN
=== Source: Weis, Sheppard, Beal, The Magna ===
Source: Weis, Sheppard, Beal, The Magna Charta Sureties, 1215, 5th Ed., Genealogical Publishing Co., Baltimore, [1999], 15A-8, p. 16. Captured Sir Henry 'Hotspur' Percy at the Battle of Otterburn, 1388.
=== Sir John de Montgomerie of Eaglesham and ===
Sir John de Montgomerie of Eaglesham and Eastwood, afterwards of Eglinton. At the battle of Otterburn, in August 1388, Sir John and his son Hugh greatly distinguished themselves by their bravery. John Montgomerie, Lord of Eglishame, granted a charter to William of Blankforde, of the lands of Little Benane, which is dated at Eglisham on 8th Oct 1392. Sir John md 1361 Elizabeth dau and heiress of Sir Hugh Eglinton of Ilk,one of the two Justicaries of Scotland, in the reign of King David II and at then death of the latter, 1374, obtained possession through his wife of the large possessions of that family, including Ardrossan, which had come to Sir Hugh Eglinton through his marriage with its heiress, probably dau of Sir Fergus Ardrossan. Sir John de Montgomerie, who died about 1398, had by his wife Elizabeth of Eglinton three sons.
=== Source: Weis, Sheppard, Beal, The Magna ===
Source: Weis, Sheppard, Beal, The Magna Charta Sureties, 1215, 5th Ed., Genealogical Publishing Co., Baltimore, [1999], 15A-9, p. 16.
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=== !Name,Title,Byr,pla,Dyr,pla,parents,Spou ===
!Name,Title,Byr,pla,Dyr,pla,parents,Spouse,MD,pla,children-Ancestry.com 2002
=== From Ancestral File (TM), data as of 2 J ===
From Ancestral File (TM), data as of 2 January 1996.
=== John Montgomerie of Eaglesham is the fir ===
John Montgomerie of Eaglesham is the first member of the family whose position can be ascertained with certainty, and from whom the descent is clear. Froissart records his prowess at the battle of Otterburn in August 1388, and tells how he fought 'hande to hande right valyauntly' with Sir Henry Percy, known as 'Hotspur,' and took him prisoner. It is said that, in lieu of ransom, Sir Henry was required to build a new residence for his captor. This was the castle of Polnoon, near Eagleshame.
On 9 December 1389 Sir James Lindsay granted to his 'cosyng' John Montgomerie of Eagleshame an obligation not to deprive him of the lands of Dunbulg and Carny. He styles himself John of Montgomerie, Lord of Eaglesham, in a charter of the lands of Little Benan, dated at Eagleshame on 8 October 1392. He is said to have died between that date and 1398, but is found receiving payment of a pension for attendance on the King and Duke of Rothesay for the year May 1299 to May 1400. He, however, deceased before July 1401.
He married Elizabeth, only daughter and heiress of Sir Hugh Eglinton of Eglinton, through whom he is said to have acquired the baronies of Eglinton and Ardrossan. [The Scots Peerage III:427-428]
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Sir John Montgomerie, ninth of Eaglesham and first of Eglinton and Ardrossan (d 1398?), was the only son of Sir Alexander de Montgomerie, eight of Eaglesham and first of Eglinton and Ardrossan, by a daughter of William, first earl of Douglas. The Montgomeries of Scotland trace their descent from Robert de Montgomerie (d 1177), a supposed descendant of Roger of Montgomery (d 1094), who was created Earl of Shrewsbury, and was father of Hugh, earl of Shrewsbury (d 1098). Robert de Montgomerie accompanied Walter, son of Alan, first high steward of Scotland, from Wales to Scotland, and received from him the manor of Eaglesham, Renfrewshire.
Sir John Montgomerie, ninth of Eaglesham, succeeded his father about 1380, and by his marriage with Elizabeth de Eglinton, sole heiress of Sir Hugh de Eglinton of Eglinton, justiciary of Lothian in 1361, obtained the baronies of Eglinton and Ardrossan. In 1388 he accompanied his brother-in-law, Sir James Douglas, second earl of Douglas, in an expedition to England. At the battle of Otterburn, where Douglas was slain, Montgomerie, according to the Scots version of the ballad on the battle, worsted Sir Henry Percy, surnamed Hotspur, the commander of the English, in single combat and took him prisoner. With the ransom of Percy he built at Eaglesham the castle of Polnoon, now in ruins, but long the chief seat of the Eglinton family. In 1391 Montgomerie, for service to the king and the Duke of Rothesay, received an annuity from the customs of Edinburgh and Linlithgow. He died about 1398, leaving three sons - Sir John, who succeeded him, and was father of Sir Alexander, first lord Montgomerie; Alexander of Bonnington, and Hugh, shot with an arrow throught the heart at Otterburn. [Dictionary of National Biography XIII:755-756]
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Sir John de Montgomerie, ninth of Eagleshame, and first of Eglinton and Ardrossan (1380-1398), who succeeded his father about 1380. At the battle of Otterburn, in August 1388, Sir John and his son Hugh greatly distinguished themselves by their bravery. The son was slain. Sir John captured Sir Henry Percy, better known as Harry Hotspur, who, for his ransom, was obliged to build the Castle of Polnoon, long the chief messuage of the barony of Eagleshame. Hugh, twelfth Earl of Eglintoun, in a letter to his agent, Mr George Russell, writer to the signet, dated Eglinton Castle, 8th October 1807 says -
'A good many years ago, the Duchess of Northumberland, on being informed that the Castle of Polnoon was built by Harry Hotspur for his ransome, and that the Percy arms were still to be seen upon it, sent a person to take a copy of them; but no arms of any kind was to be found. Very lately Robert Montgomerie, banker in Irvine, was with me at Eagleshame. During the time he was there, he paid a visit to Hugh Montgomerie. On looking about the house, Hugh Montgomerie pointed out to him a stone built in the house, but harled over so as not to be easliy seen. This stone, in his vanity, he said, was arms which had been taken from Polnoon Castle; but as he was told that he would be obliged to pay for wearing arms, if they continued exposed (or some such nonsense as this), he had them cast over. I suspect these to be the very arms, and stole by Mr Montgomerie. I wish to know, therefore, what steps I ought to take to recover these; for undoubtedly, whether Percy arms, or whatever they may be, they ought not to be allowed to remain with him, as he can have no right to them whatever.'
No further trace has been found of this stone.
On 9th December 1389 James the Lyndesay, Lord of Bochane, granted to his 'lufit cosyng' John of Montgomerie, Lord of Egillhame, and obligation not to recognosce the lands of Dunbulge and Carny. John Montgomerie, Lord of Egilshame, granted a charter to William of Blakeforde, of the lands of Little Benane, which is dated at Eglisham on 8th October 1392. Sir John Montgomerie died between that date and 1398. He married Elizabeth, the daughter and sole heiress of Sir Hugh Eglinton of that Ilk, one of the two great Justiciaries of Scotland, in the reign of King David II. By this marriage Sir John Montgomerie acquired the baronies of Eglinton and Ardrossan. [Memorials of Montgomerie I:14-15]
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Sir John de Montgomerie of Eaglesham and Eastwood and afterwards Eglinton and Ardrossan, was the son of Sir Alexander. "He married in 1361, Elizabeth, the daughter and heiress of Sir Hugh Eglinton of Eglinton, and by her obtained the large possessions of that family on the death of her father, which occurred about the year 1374, together with Ardrossan, the heiress of which estate one of her ancestors had married. Sir John quartered with his own the Eglinton arms, which were gules, three rings or, gemmed azure.
Sir John de Montgomerie of Eaglesham, greatly distinguished himself at the battle of Otterburn, where James Earl Douglas, who was his uncle, was slain. 'A MS in the British Museum says, 'Iste John Montgomery fuit nepos Magni Comiti de Douglas interfecti apud Otterburne;' and Camden gives the same in his genealogy of the Scottish peers. Hugh, the eldest son of Sir John, lost his life there, as the ballad has it:
Sir Hugh was slain, Sir John maintained
The honor of the day;
And with him brought the victory,
And Percy's son away.
Hotspur was taken prisoner by Sir John, and with Percy's ransom money, he built the castle of Punnoon, which is still in possession of the family. 'The spear and pennon of Percy were carried along with the body of the gallant Sir Hugh, to Edinburgh Castle, and the trophies still remain in possession of the Eglinton House. It is said that when the late Duke of Northumberland requested their restoration, the late Earl of Eglinton replied, 'There is as good lea land here as any at Chevy Chace, let Percy come and take them.'
Sir John granted on October, 1396, to William de Blakeford, the lands of Ardbennane, within two years from which time he died; he had by his wife Elizabeth, who survived him, four sons. [Family of Montgomery pp47-48]
=== From Ancestral File (TM), data as of 2 J ===
From Ancestral File (TM), data as of 2 January 1996. From Ancestral File (TM), data as of 2 January 1996.
=== Name Suffix: Laird of Eaglesham ===
Name Suffix: Laird of Eaglesham
=== Notes from Geni ===
Sir John Montgomerie, 10th Baron of Eaglesham MP
Birth: circa 1338
Eaglesham, Inverness-shire, Scotland
Managed by: Private User
Son of Alexander Montgomerie of Eaglesham and Margaret Dunbar of Douglas
Husband of Elizabeth Montgomerie
Father of Sir John Montgomerie, Knight, Lord of Ardrossan; Alexander de Montgomerie, of Bonnington; Hugh Montgomerie, of Eaglesham; Anne de Cunningham; Joanna Montgomerie of Ardrossan, Lady Kilmarnock and 1 other
Half brother of Sir John Montegomerie, Knight, Lord of Ardrossan
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=== !BIRTH-MARRIAGE-DEATH: Personal Records ===
!BIRTH-MARRIAGE-DEATH: Personal Records of John Thornton McClaughry, R.F.D. South Kirby, Concord, Vt 05824, 1995.
=== Lord of Ardrossan, Eglinton and Eaglesha ===
Lord of Ardrossan, Eglinton and Eaglesham
=== Three sources, as given below, give diff ===
Three sources, as given below, give differing genealogies of the Montgomery family. As all three have, at some point, John Montgomery who married a daughter of Sir Hugh Eglinton, that will be the starting ancestor for adding to the line. (1). "The Heraldic Journal," Boston, 1868, Vol. II, pp. 63-66, has the "Genealogy of the Montgomery Family." The following is taken from that genealogy: "The family is of Norman origin, the first of the name being Roger, Count of Montgomerie in A. D. 912. The sixth Count, Robert, concerning whom the historians narrate many particulars, joined the army of William the Conqueror, and received great rewards for his services in England. He was created Earl of Shrewsbury, and died in 1094. His sons were Robert, Count of Montgomerie, whose grandson Guy, Count of Ponthieu, had a grandson, William, the last male of this oldest branch. (William's granddaughter m. Ferdinand III., King of Castile.) Roger, Count of Marche, whose line became extinct in 1181; and Arnulph, Earl of Pembroke, ancestor of the present family." "This Arnulph had a son Philip de Montgomerie, who settled in Scotland, and there had a son Robert of Eaglesham and Thorntoun. From him (through John, Alan, John, John, and Alexander) was descended Sir John de Montgomery, who m. in 1361 the heiress of Sir Hugh Eglinton." (2). "Burke's Peerage," 1963, Eglinton," pg. 829, starts the lineage with Robert Montgomery, who obtained from Walter, the First High Steward of Scotland, in the latter half of the 12th century, the lands of Eaglesham in County Renfrew, Scotland. Then there appears to be a skipping of some generations as the next in line is called "His descendant," (not his son). The descendant is John Montgomery, of Eaglesham, who married Elizabeth, dau. and heir of Sir Hugh Eglinton. (3). "The Greening Peerage of Scotland," 1767, under Montgomery, Earl of Eglington, shows the following: "This noble family is originally French, of which was Hugh de Mungegumbrie, a near relation of Robert duke of Normandy. His son Roger de Montgomery accompanied William the Conqueror into England in 1066, and commanding the vanguard of his army, at the memorable battle of Hastings, where King Harold was slain, for that signal service the duke bestowed on him very large gifts, as the territory and honour of Arundel, with the earldom of Salisbury, where he founded the abbey of St. Peter's, and there died in 1094. He married Mabel, daughter of William de Talvaife, and had a son Roger, who had a son Philip, who came into Scotland with David I, and got a fair inheritance in the Shire of Renfrew. His son Robert died betwixt 1177 and 1180, leaving a son and successor, Sir John, who was succeeded by his son Sir Allan, who died in 1234, and was succeeded by Sir Robert, who dying without issue in 1260, was succeeded by his brother Sir John, who dying in 1285, was succeeded by his eldest son, another Sir John, who was one of the great barons of Scotland that swore fealty to Edward I, King O England, in the year 1296: but he afterwards joined king Robert Bruce; and dying in 1316, was succeeded by his son Sir Alexander, who was knighted by king Robert Bruce, and adhered to his son David II. His son and successor, Sir John, married a daughter and heir of Sir Hugh Eglington, by which marriage he became possest of the lordships of Eglington, Ardrossan &c. in Cunninghame, and threupon quartered the arms of Eglington with his own, and was afterwards called by that title." -------------------------------------------------------------------------- --------------------------------------------------------- John Montgomery of Eaglesham distinguished himself at the Battle of Otterburn in 1388, capturing Sir Henry Percy (Hotspur), who paid a very high ransom for his release. With the ransom, Sir John built the Castle of Polnoon (or Punoon) in the Barony of Eaglesham.
=== of Ardrossan, later of Eglinton. SCOTLAN ===
of Ardrossan, later of Eglinton. SCOTLAND
=== !Name,Title,BD,DD,parents,Spouses,Mds,pl ===
!Name,Title,BD,DD,parents,Spouses,Mds,plas,children-Ancestry.com 2002
=== Natural relationship to Eaglesham, John ===
Natural relationship to Eaglesham, John Montgomery Of Natural relationship to Eglintoun, Elizabeth Sir John Montgomerie, of Eaglesham and Eglinton, more usually designed "of Ardrossan" was one of the hostages sent into England in 1423 for the ransom of King James I of Scotland. Sir John was made a Lord of parliament, by the title of Lord Montgomery, in 1427. Note that the various sources do not specifically state who the mother of the children of Sir John was. Only one of the sources (see sources under Margaret Maxwell), specifically states there was issue of the marriage. It is assumed that the children's mother was Margaret Maxwell pending any other information.
=== (21) dead ===
(21) dead
=== Name Prefix: Sir ===
Name Prefix: Sir
=== It is unknown wife of John is mother of ===
It is unknown wife of John is mother of his children Sir John Montgomerie, who succeeded to the lands and titles of his father, [1398-1429], is referred to as chief of the house of Montgomerie. Sir John took part in the inroad into England, under Archibald, third Earl of Douglas and brother of Earl James, who fell at Otterburn. He was one of the chiefs of the Scottish army which invaded England, 1402, and was taken prisoner at the battle of Halidon Hill. He married 1st married Agnes of the Isles, who died before 9th March 1413, on which date she is mentioned as deceased in a charter by the Regent Albany, to be afterwards referred to. Secondly, before 1427, Margaret, daughter of Sir Robert Maxwell, of Caerlaverock, ancestor of the Earls of Nithsdale and died prior to 22 Nov. 1429. Sir John had three sons and three daughters. It is certain that the eldest son and second son were from his first marriage but it does not appear which on his wives was mother of the third son and the daughters.
=== Sir John Montgomerie, who styles himself ===
Sir John Montgomerie, who styles himself Lord of Ardrossan in his charters. He succeeded between May 1400 and 4 July 1401, when he received a charter from Archibald, fourth Earl of Douglas, of the lands of Dunlop in Ayrshire. He was present at the battle of Homildon on 14 September 1402, and was one of those taken captive. He was sent a prisoner to the Tower, and at Christmastide of 1402 was transferred to Windsor, whence, in September 1403, he was returned to the Tower. He is said, but not on good authority, to have been released in the following year, 1404, and according to Wyntoun was the means of introducing the false Richard II to the notice of the Scottish Court, but such introduction, if made, must have taken place not long before the death of King Robert III in April 1406. He certainly was in Scotland before August 1405, when he received a permit for a ship of his to trade in foreign parts for a year. A month later he went to England as one of the hostages exacted for the temporary release of the Earl of Douglas, who had been taken at Shrewsbury, and he was a hostage at intervals until June 1408, when he appears to have been finally liberated. He had a ship 'La Wynyne,' larger than the former, trading with England, in December 1407, at a date when he was residing at his own house of Polnoon. He granted on 24 November 1413 a precept for infefting Stephen Ker, Laird of Trearne in the lands of Overtown of Giffen, in the lordship of Giffen. The granter styles himself Lord of Ardrossan and of Giffen, but whether the latter was a recent acquisition does not appear. A little later he gave the whole lordship of Giffen to his second son Robert, with other lands. Sir John also held the office of Bailie of the barony of Kilbride. In 1424, he was one of those who had a safe-conduct to meet King James I at Durham, on his way to Scotland. He was on the jury who condemned Murdac, Duke of Albany, to death in May 1425, and two months later he had a safe-conduct to England as a surety for the King in exchange for a hostage returning to Scotland. He remained in England, apparently without relief, and was still there in February 1426-27, when he was sent or transferred to Pontefract Castle. It is not improbable he died in England, as his son succeeded him before 22 November 1429.
Sir John was twice married, first, to a lady named Agnes of the Isles, who died before March 1413-14; secondly (dispensation dated 4 May 1414), to Margaret, daughter of Sir Herbert Maxwell of Carlaverock. [The Scots Peerage III:429-430]
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Sir John de Montgomerie, "Dominus Ejusdem, or of that Ilk," which title shows he was the male heir and chief of the French house of Montgomerie.
"This ancient and noble title - That Ilk - is peculiar to the Scots, and has never been hitherto defined well. It is the title which denotes - not the gentleman, as Johnson's degrading appellation, (viz, whose surname and the title of his estates are the same), but also the chief of all the clan of his own surname. It does not necessarily or essentially refer to the estate. McFarlan, McIntoch, Brisbane, Tweedie, &c. of that Ilk, have never had lands of the name of their surnames. Many chiefs parted with their original estates, and afterwards used that title long, or to this day, for example, Porterfield, Ralstoun, Whyteford, &c., of that Ilk. This title shows that the person who uses it is the chief of the clan of the surname in question. It is very honorable and ancient. It gives him the right of supporters in his armorial arms. It is more honorable than the modern titles of nobility, such as earls, marquises, dukes, &c., in certain respects. This is a nobility really patriarchal, venerable and ancient. No king or prince can bestow, nor take away, the glory and dignity of 'that Ilk'. The King of Great Britain offered a title of nobility to the chief of the Grants, who despised the offer, saying, 'And wha wad be the laird of Grant?' Any occasional sprout of a clan may rise up, by accident, to a showy and gaudy title; but that title is moder, and it must fall short of 'that Ilk,' for the chief is still the chief of all that clan; including the lordling of yesterday. In former days, many Scots chiefs would have thought it derogatory to accept a foreign dignity; and, even at this day, many Highland gentlemen are displeased with one of the most powereful chiefs, viz., the Chief of the Isles, for having accepted an Irish peerage. Dr Johnson, being in Mull in 1773, says, 'Where races are numerous, and thus combined, none but the chief of a clan is addressed by his name simply. The Laird of Dunvegan is called Macleod; but other gentlemen of the same family are denominated by the places where they reside, as Raasa or Talisker. The distinction of the meaner people is made by their Christian names. In consequences of this practice, the late Laird of Macfarlane, an eminent genealogist, considered himself as disrespectfully treated, if the common addition was applied to him. 'Mr Macfarlane,' said he, 'may with equal propriety be said to many; but I, and I only am Macfarlane.' Dunolp of that Ilk, or 'The Dunlop,' are the same import (Hist. Co. Ayr, I:266)
Sir John de Montgomerie "succeeded his father before 1398. In 1402 he formed one of the chiefs of the Scotch army which invaded England, and was taken prisoner at the disastrous battle of Halidon Hill." He was not long a captive, however, for two years after he was in Scotland, and introduced the reputed Richard II of England to Robert III. Mr Tyler, in his history, hints at a secret negotiation carried on by Henry IV with "the Lord Montgomerie," which he supposes had reference to the dethroned king; but as Sir John had taken him to court, and introduced him to the Scottish king, promptly and honorably, there can be but little room for suspecting him of treachery towards the reputed king.
Upon the accession of James I, after his long imprisonment in England, during which time the country had been under the regency of the Duke of Albany, James had reason to suspect his imprisonment had been turned to great personal advantage by many of his nobles; and at a parliament held at Perth, March 12, 1425, he arrested Albany, Douglas, Angus, March, and twenty others of the highest rank, one of whom was Montgomerie, who seems, however, to have been immediately set at liberty, and restored to favor; for on the 24th of May following, he was one of the jury on the trial of Murdoch, Duke of Albany, and was employed in various public duties, one of which was in reducing the fortress upon Loch Lomond, which was held out against the royal troops by the duke's youngest son, James Stewart. [Family of Montgomery pp50-51]
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Sir John de Montgomerie, tenth of Eagleshame, also of Eglinton and Ardrossan (1398-1429), succeeded his father before 1398. His usual style and designation in charters was Sir John Montgomerie, Knight, Lord of Ardrossan.
Sir John took part in the inroad into England, under Archibald, the Earl of Douglas, and brother of Earl James, who fell at Otterburn. In 1402 the Earl, accompanied by many of the Scottish nobility, entered England at the head of 12,000 men, and Sir John was one of the chiefs of the invading army. On their way back they were overtaken by the English under the Percys near Homeldon Hill on the English borders. A desperate battle ensued, in which the Scots were completely defeated, leaving an immense number killed, wounded and prisoners in the hands of the English, and amongst the last the great Douglas himself, and Sir John Montgomerie. Sir John very soon regained his liberty, by ransom or otherwise, for in 1404, he was in Scotland, and introduced at the court of his sovereign, Robert III the reputed Richard II of England. The circumstances ar thus related by Tytler - King Richard II, it was affirmed, had actually escaped from Pontefract, and had found means to convey himself, in the disguise of a poor traveller, to the Western or Outer Isles of Scotland, where he was accidentally discovered by a lady, who had known him in Ireland. He was treated with great kindness, and given in charge to 'the Lord of Montgomery,' who carried him to the court of Robert III where he was received with honour. He lived in the palace within the castle of Stirling, and dying there about nineteen years after his escape from England, was buried with the name, state, and honours of that unfortunate monarch, Ricahrd II.
Sir John was called upon to perform many important duties. Archibald, Earl of Douglas, who, with Sir John and many others, fell into the hands of the Percys at the disastrous battle of Homeldon Hill, soon after entered into league, if not into friendship, with his captors. And when those powerful nobles, in the following year, rose in arms against their sovereign, Henry IV, Douglas fought side by side with them in the sanguinary battle of Shrewsbury, and after performing many prodigies of valour, was wounded and taken prisoner by the King's party after the defeat of the Percys. On the 21st September 1405 Sir John Montgomerie obtained letters of safe conduct to England to treat fro the ransom of his old commander, but his mission was unsuccessful. On the 1st November of the year following he returned to England on the same errand, and on the 2oth April 1408 delivered himself up as a hostage for Douglas. He was not long detained on this occasion, for he was in Scotland in the year 1412; and in 1413 was residing at his recently built castle of Polnone, where he granted a charter on the 24th of November of that year. The Seal appended to this charter is here engraved. Sir John was one of the hostages sent to England in 1423 for the ransom of James I. The names of the hostages, with a statement of the yearly income of each, is still preserved. Sir John is thus entered in the list: 'Johannes de Montgomery, miles de Ardrossane, vel filius ejus et hæres ad
=== Ancestral File ===
Ancestral File
Preferred Parents:
Father: Alexander Montgomery - Nineth Baron of Eaglesham, b. JAN 1300 in Eaglesham, Renfrewshire, Scotland d. 25 JUN 1388 in Eaglesham, Renfrewshire, Scotland
Mother: Margaret Douglas, b. 1308 in Douglas Castle, Lanarkshire, Scotland d. 1374 in Eaglesham, Renfrewshire, Scotland
Family 1: Elizabeth Eglington, b. 1343 in Kilwinning, Ayrshire, Scotland, United Kingdom d. 1398 in Kilwinning, Ayrshire, Scotland, United Kingdom
- m. 1361 in Renfrewshire, Scotland
- John Montgomerie - Fifth Lord Montgomerie, Lord of Ardrossan, b. 1362 in Ardrossan, Ayrshire, Scotland, United Kingdom d. 12 NOV 1429 in Eglington Castle, Kilwinning, Ayrshire, Scotland, United Kingdom
Sources:
- Title: Legacy NFS Source: Sir Knight John Montgomery -
Author: Dictionary of National Biography, George Smith, Oxford Press, Vols 1-21 (Orignially published 1885-90),Ed by Sir Leslie S, Page number: XIII:743
Note: Source Media Type: Book
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- Title: [S695] Unknown author, Magna Charta Sureties, 1215, by F. L. Weis, 4th Ed., p. 16; Scots Peerage. [S11565] The Scots Peerage, Vol. III, edited by Sir James Balfour Paul, p. 430
Author: [S695] Unknown author, Magna Charta Sureties, 1215, by F. L. Weis, 4th Ed., p. 16; Scots Peerage. [S11565] The Scots Peerage, Vol. III, edited by Sir James Balfour Paul, p. 430.
Publication: Name: http://our-royal-titled-noble-and-commoner-ancestors.com/p140.htm#i4213;
Note: [S695] Unknown author, Magna Charta Sureties, 1215, by F. L. Weis, 4th Ed., p. 16; Scots Peerage.
[S11565] The Scots Peerage, Vol. III, edited by Sir James Balfour Paul, p. 430.
- Title: Legacy NFS Source: Sir Knight John Montgomery -
Author: International Genealogical Index (R), The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, Copyright (c) 1980, 2002, data as of January 13, 2004, Family History Library, 35 N West Temple Street, Salt Lake City, Utah 84150 USA
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- Title: Legacy NFS Source: Sir Knight John Montgomery -
Author: Ancestral File (R), The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, Copyright (c) 1987, June 1998, data as of 5 January 1998, Family History Library, 35 N West Temple Street, Salt Lake City, Utah 84150 USA
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Author: Ancestry Family Trees, Online publication - Provo, UT, USA: The Generations Network. Original data: Family Tree files submitted by Ancestry memb, Page number: Ancestry Family Trees
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- Title: Legacy NFS Source: Sir Knight John Montgomery -
Author: Ancestral File (TM), The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, June 1998 (c), data as of 5 JAN 1998
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- Title: Legacy NFS Source: Sir Knight John Montgomery -
Author: The Scots Peerage; Sir James Balfour Paul {1904-1914, 2000 rev} with Addenda et Corrigenda {2000}, Page number: III:429-430
Note: Source Media Type: Book
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Author: Darryl Lundy, The Peerage, a genealogical survey of teh Peerage of Britian as well as the royal families of Europe(http://thepeerage.com : accessed 17 Jan 2020), John Montgomery;
Note: John Montgomery married Elizabeth Eglinton, daughter of Sir Hugh Eglinton of that Ilk and Egidia Stewart.1 He obtained the territorial Baronies of Eglinton and Ardrossan through his wife.1 He fought in the Battle of Otterburn in 1388, where he captured Sir Henry Percy.1Children of John Montgomery and Elizabeth Eglinton Sir John Montgomerie of Ardrossan+1 d. fr 1426/27 - Nov 1429 unknown daughter Montgomery1 Alexander Montgomery1 Hugh Montgomery1 d. 5 Aug 1388Citations [S37] BP2003 volume 1, page 1279. See link for full details for this source. Hereinafter cited as. [S37]
- Title: UK, Extracted Probate Records
Publication: Name: https://search.ancestry.com/collections/1610/records/28477;
- Title: Legacy NFS Source: Sir Knight John Montgomery -
Author: Ancestral File (TM), The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, July 1996 (c), data as of 2 January 1996
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- Title: Legacy NFS Source: Sir Knight John Montgomery -
Author: Magna Charta Sureties 1215, Frederick Lewis Weis, additions by Walter Lee Sheppard Jr, 5th Ed {1999}, Page number: 15a-9
Note: Source Media Type: Book
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- Title: North America, Family Histories, 1500-2000
Author: Book Title: Genealogy : Strobridge Morrison or Morison Strawbridge
Publication: Name: https://search.ancestry.com/collections/61157/records/2804650;
- Title: Legacy NFS Source: Sir Knight John Montgomery - Published information: birth: about 1362; Ardrossan, Ayr, Scotland, United Kingdom
Note: Published information: birth: about 1362; Ardrossan, Ayr, Scotland, United Kingdom
Published information: death: about 1429; Kilwinning, Ayr, Scotland, United Kingdom
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- Title: https://babel.hathitrust.org/cgi/pt?id=wu.89067529305&view=1up&seq=25
Author: A genealogical history of the Montgomerys and their descendants, by D.B. Montgomery...
Publication: Name: https://babel.hathitrust.org/cgi/pt?id=wu.89067529305&view=1up&seq=25;
Page: A book about the Montgomeries, refers to Heiress Eglington
- Title: Legacy NFS Source: Sir Knight John Montgomery -
Author: Complete Peerage of England, Scotland, Ireland, Great Britain, and the United Kingdom; GE Cokayne, Sutton Publishing Ltd, Page number: IX:134
Note: Source Media Type: Book
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- Title: Legacy NFS Source: Sir Knight John Montgomery -
Author: Ancestral File (R), The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, Copyright (c) 1987, June 1998, data as of 5 January 1998, Family History Library, 35 N West Temple Street, Salt Lake City, Utah 84150 USA
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- Title: Legacy NFS Source: Sir Knight John Montgomery -
Author: Burke's Peerage & Baronetage, 106th Edition, Charles Mosley {1999}, Page number: 1579
Note: Source Media Type: Book
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