Joan Lovel

• Preferred Name: Joan Lovel^{[1] [2] [3] [4] [5] [6] [7] [8] [9]}
  
• Alternate Name: Douglas
  
• Alternate Name: Joanna Lovell
  
• Alternate Name: Joanna Lovel
  
• Gender: F
  
• Death: 21 AUG 1337 in Douglas, Lanarkshire, Scotland at LATI: N5.5573 LONG: E3.8475
  
• Birth: 1305 in Castle Cary, Somerset, England at LATI: N1.0781 LONG: E2.5335
  
• Burial: 22 AUG 1337
  
• FSID: LVJJ-Q82
  
• Notes:

  === Life Sketch ===
  The Life Summary of Joan
  When Lady Joan Lovel - Lady Douglas was born in 1287, in Castle Cary, Somerset, England, United Kingdom, her father, Sir Richard III de Lovel, was 11 and her mother, Lady Muriel de Soules, was 11. She had at least 1 son with Sir James the Good Douglas. She died on 21 August 1337, in Douglas, Lanarkshire, Scotland, United Kingdom, at the age of 50, and was buried in Lanarkshire, Scotland, United Kingdom.
  
  BIO
  BIO: from http://cybergata.com/roots/8811.htm as of 6/9/2019
  
  Joan Lovel
  Born: Abt 1304, Castle Cary, North Cadbury, Somerset, England
  Marriage: Sir John de Moels Knight 141
  
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  === Profile from GENi ===
  Joan de Moels (Lovel)
  Also Known As: "Joane Lovel", "Joan Lovell", "Maud Lovell"
  Birthdate: circa 1297
  Birthplace: Castle Cary, Somerset, England
  Death: August 21, 1337 (35-44)
  Castle Cary, Somerset, England
  Immediate Family:
  Daughter of Sir Richard Lovel, Baron of Lovell and Castle Kary and Muriel Lovel
  Wife of John de Moels, 4th Baron Moels
  Mother of Muriel Courtney and Isabel de Moels
  Sister of Lady Eleanor Rohault (Lovel) and Sir James Lovel, Kt., of Barrow
  Managed by: Private User
  Last Updated: June 16, 2020
  
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  === Source: Fidonet Genealogy Echo message f ===
  Source: Fidonet Genealogy Echo message from Marlyn Lewis, 5 Jun 1994
  
  === !BAPTISM LDS: 4 MAY 1935; 14 NOV 1992 JR ===
  !BAPTISM LDS: 4 MAY 1935; 14 NOV 1992 JRIV !ENDOW LDS: 14 JUN 1935 SL; 28 NOV 1992
  
  === SORLEY'S PEDIGREES (GS NUMBER Q929.242 S ===
  SORLEY'S PEDIGREES (GS NUMBER Q929.242 SO68) P.46, 49; COKAYNE'S COMPLETE PEERAGE; BURKE'S DORMANT AND EXTINCT PEERAGE; DUGDALE'S BARONETAGE, VOL 1 P.619 THRU 629; ROYAL ANCESTORS OF MAGNA CHARTA BARONS BY COLLINS; GREY FROM COUNTY CORTLAND AND RUTLAND BY BLOARE;

1. Archibald Douglas 3rd Earl of Douglas, b. 1328 in Roxburghshire, Scotland     d. 24 DEC 1400 in Threave Castle, Dumfries, Scotland

1. Title: Visitations of Somerset: Pages 50 & 51; de Moeles of N. Cadbury
   Author: The Visitations of the County of Somerset, In the Years 1431 & 1575, together with Additional Pedigrees, chiefly from the Visitations of 1591; .
   Publication: Name: https://www.familysearch.org/library/books/records/item/48862-the-visitations-of-the-county-of-somerset-in-the-years-1551-and-1575-together-with-additional-pedigrees-chiefly-from-the-visitation-of-1591?viewer=1&offset=7#page=60&viewer=picture&o=download&n=0&q=;
   Note: James de Newmarch: Anno 6 John, held N. Cadbury, died 17 John; -Isabella married Roger Russell; -Maud: married John de Botereaux, & Nicholas Moeles, had N. Cadbury; --Roger Moeles: died 13 Edward I; married Alice, daughter & heiress of William Preaux; ---John Moeles: died 3 Edward II; married daughter of Grey de Ruthin; ----Nicholas de Moeles: died 9 Edward II; married Mary, daughter of Sir Hugh Courtenay; -----Roger Moeles: aged 26 (9 Edward II); died without offspring 19 Edward II; -----John Moeles: died 11 Edward III; married Joan, daughter & Co-heiress of Richard Lovel of Castle Cari. ------Muriel Moeles: married Sir Thomas Courtenay; ------Isabel Moeles: married William de Botreaux, who died 23 Edward III; -------William de Botreaux: died 15 Richard II; married Elizabeth, daughter of Ralph Daubeny, by Katherine, sister & heiress of Thomas Thweng; died 12 Henry VI; --------William de Botreaux: died 13 Henry IV; married Elizabeth, daughter & heiress of John de St Lo.; ---------William de Botreaux: died 2 Edward IV; married Elizabeth, daughter of lord John Beaumont; -----------Margaret de Botreaux: daughter & heiress of William de Botreaux; married to Sir Robert Hungerford, son of Sir Walter Hungerford --------Thomas de Botreaux; --------Ralph de Botreaux; --------John de Botreaux;
   
2. Title: Complete Peerage, Vol IX, Moels to Nuneham: Pages 7 & 8; Moels, IV. 1316 ; 4. John (DE Moels), Lord Moels
   Author: The Complete Peerage or a History of the House of Lords and All Its Members from the Earliest Times: Volume IX, Moels to Nuneham; by George Edward Cokayne 1825-1911, revised and much enlarged, edited by H. A. Doubleday and Lord Howard de Walden.
   Publication: Name: https://www.familysearch.org/library/books/records/item/421516-the-complete-peerage-of-england-scotland-ireland-great-britain-and-the-united-kingdom-extant-extinct-or-dormant-vol-9?viewer=1&offset=0#page=15&viewer=picture&o=info&n=0&q=;
   Note: JOHN (DE MOELS), LORD MOELS, brother and heir. On 18 July 1316 Richard Lovel was granted the wardship of two parts of the lands late of Nicholas, John's brother, until the full age of John. Having proved his age and done homage, he had livery of the lands of Roger de Moels, his brother, 17 September 1325. He was ceremoniously knighted January 1326/7. On 5 May 1328 he had licence to grant to Margaret de Moels (his brother's widow), for life, a moiety of the manor of Diptford and the hundred of Stanborough, Devon, in exchange for a grant of her interest in the manor of Little Berkhampstead. He was a justice of the peace in 1329. On 7 May 1331 the escheator was ordered to take the lands of John de Moels, knight, into the King's hand because he had gone outside the realm without licence, contrary to the proclamation. He was granted the marriage of Elizabeth, late the wife of Edmund de Mortimer, 7 July 1333, but did not marry her. On 21 November 1335 he had protection, being about to go beyond seas. He was never summoned to Parliament. He married Joan, daughter of Richard [LOVEL] 1st Lord Lovel [of Castle Cary] by Muriel, daughter and heir of Sir John de Soules. He died s..p.m., before 21 August 1337. On 1 September 1337 custody of his lands was granted to Thomas de Ferrars and Thcobald de Mounteney. At his death the Barony of Moels is held, according to modern doctrine, to have fallen into abeyance between his two daughters and coheirs, who were both born in Dorset: (i) Muriel, aged 15 in 1337, who married, without licence, after her father's death and before the inquisition on his lands, Sir Thomas de Courtenay, for which they received pardon 27 August 1337. On 6 October 1337, Thomas de Courtenay having done fealty, he and Muriel received their pourparty of her father's lands, and on 3 March 1337/8 their pourparty of knights' fees. In 1349, on the death of her aunt Margaret, late wife of Nicholas de Moels, Muriel received her share of the dower lands. Muriel and Thomas had one son, Hugh, who died s.p. and two daughters, (a) Muriel, who m. Sir John de Dinham (see DINHAM), and (b) Margaret, who margaret Sir Thomas Peverel, and had two daughters (i) Eleanor, who m. Sir William Talbot and died s.p., and (ii) Catherine, who married Sir Walter Hungerford (see HUNGERFORD). (ii) Isabel, born at Marnhull, Dorset, 31 May 1326, but said to be aged "13 years and more" in September 1337, and 25 and more in April 1349. Having married, without licence, William de Botreaux, her lands were forfeited 30 August 1337, but they received pardon 6 October 1337. Isabel having proved her age on 18 June 1347, and William's fealty and homage being respited until the King's return to England, they received their pourparty of her father's lands 6 July 1347, and in 1349, on the death of her aunt Margaret, late wife of Nicholas de Moels, Isabel received her share of the dower lands. Isabel and William had a son William, who was summoned to Parliament in 1368 (see BOTREAUX). Isabel's greatgreat-granddaughter, Margaret, Baroness Botreaux, married Robert, Lord Hungerford, great-grandson of Isabel's sister Muriel, and thus united one moiety and half of the other moiety of the Barony of Moels. See HASTINGS and HUNGERFORD.
   
3. Title: Joan de Moels - Geni.com
   Publication: Name: https://www.geni.com/people/Joan-de-Moels/6000000000701012495;
   
4. Title: BHO: Inquisitions Post Mortem; John de Moelis, de Moeles, de Meols or de Moles, 1337
   Author: BHO: Calendar of Inquisitions Post Mortem: Volume 8, Edward III; pages 79-97; Inquisitions Post Mortem, Edward III, File 52; Item 139; JOHN DE MOELIS, DE MOELES, DE MEOLES or DE MOLES.; Writ, 21 August, 11 Edward III. .
   Publication: Name: https://www.british-history.ac.uk/inquis-post-mortem/vol8/pp79-97;
   Note: SOMERSET. Inq. 11 September, 11 Edward III. (1337) Maperton. The manor (extent given), with its members, held of the king in chief by service of half a barony, as the chief manor of the said half barony. Haltone. Lands (extent given) held of the abbot of Glastonbury by service of a third part of a knight’s fee. Hatherle. Certain uncultivated (friscam) land held of the king in chief by service of a sixteenth part of a knight’s fee. His daughters, Muriel aged 15 years, the wife of Thomas de Courtenay, knight, and Isabel aged 13 years and more, are his next heirs. Writ, 21 August, 11 Edward III. SOUTHAMPTON. Inq. 3 September, 11 Edward III. (1337) Upwalhop. The manor (extent given) held of the king in chief by service of a knight’s fee. Elyngham. The manor (extent given) held of the king in chief by service of a quarter of a knight’s fee. His daughters, Muriel aged 15 years, and Isabel aged 13 years, are his next heirs.
   
5. Title: Joan de Lovel - Geneanet
   Publication: Name: https://gw.geneanet.org/tdowling?lang=en&p=joan&n=de+lovel;
   
6. Title: Unknown Unknown on WikiTree
   Author: WikiTree contributors, "Unknown Unknown", WikiTree, http://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Unknown-189223 (accessed 22 June 2022)
   Publication: Name: http://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Unknown-189223;
   
7. Title: Joan Lovel - Wiki Tree
   Publication: Name: https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Lovel-8;
   
8. Title: The Complete Peerage, 2nd edition, volume VIII, pages 199-207
   
9. Title: Web: Netherlands, GenealogieOnline Trees Index, 1000-Current
   Publication: Name: http://search.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/sse.dll?dbid=9289&h=6726312&indiv=try;