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John MacDougall - Fifth Lord of Dunollie and of Lorn
- Preferred Name: John MacDougall - Fifth Lord of Dunollie and of Lorn[1] [2] [3] [4] [5] [6] [7] [8] [9] [10] [11]
- Alternate Name: John Bacach the Lame
- Alternate Name: Eoin Dubhgaill de Ergadia
- Gender: M
- http://familysearch.org/v1/TitleOfNobility: Sir
- Birth: 1269 in Argyll, Scotland, United Kingdom at LATI: N6.25 LONG: E5.25
- Death: 1316 in Ospring, Kent, England, United Kingdom at LATI: N1.2261 LONG: E0.7505
- MilitaryService: John's forces killed Cailean Mór "Sir Colin Campbell" at the "Red Ford" on the borders of Loch Awe and Lorne in a skirmishAFT SEP 1296 with note: This record contains little information: GHY1-G8V. There is enough evidence to believe it is the same person as LVD5-JHX.
- Title (Nobility): with note: Description: 5th Laird of Dunollie
- Burial: 1316
- Occupation: Sheriff of Inchegall (appointed by King Edward)1307
- MilitaryService: conquered the Isle of Man for the English crown1315 with note: This record contains little information: GHY1-G8V. There is enough evidence to believe it is the same person as LVD5-JHX.
- FSID: GVQX-W99
- MilitaryService: Battle of Dail Righ ("King's field"), where John defeated the forces of Robert de Brus, Earl of Carrick1306
- Title (Nobility): with note: Description: 5th Laird of Lorn
- MilitaryService: Admiral of the Irish Sea (for the English fleets)BET 1311 AND 1314
- Occupation: Sheriff of Argyll (appointed by King Edward)1307
- MilitaryService: MacDougall forces caused the death of Alexander Og MacDonald, Lord of Islay1299 with note: This record contains little information: GHY1-G8V. There is enough evidence to believe it is the same person as LVD5-JHX.
- Notes:
=== Life Sketch ===
About Sir John MacDougall, 5th of Dunollie and of Lorn
Burke's Peerage 107th Edition Vol II page 2480
Sir John MacDougall of Dunollie and of Lorn; called Ian Bacach or Lame John, who defeated Robert I at Dalree 1306 and won from him hi brooch, now known as the 'Brooch of Lorn'; swore fealty to Edward I 1291. Adml of the English Fleet in the Western Seas to Edward II 1314-1315, captured the Isle of Man 1315; d. c 1317, leaving ...
1a Ewen/John
2a Alastair; fought at Dalry
3a Alan; attached to the household of Edward II 1320
4a Dougal (Sir); had seven sons, the est of whom (Duncan, was a witness to a charter signed by Edward Baliol 29 Nov135 2)
1a a daughter m Sir Patrick Graham
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_of_Argyll
Eóin or John of Argyll (Latin: Johannes de Ergadia) or John of Lorne, also known as John MacDougall (Scottish Gaelic: Eóin MacDubhgaill (med) or Iain MacDhùghaill), was a Scottish nobleman of the early 14th century. He is often known to today as John Bacach, "the Lame", but there is no authority for that as a contemporary or near-contemporary nickname.
Biography
The son of Alexander MacDougall (Alasdair MacDubhgall), Lord of Argyll, by a daughter of John I Comyn, Lord of Badenoch, John appears in the records in 1291 swearing fealty to Edward I of England. From his father's and mother's background, he inherited the pro-Baliol sympathies that determined his family's and his own activities during the Great Cause and the First War of Scottish Independence. As the Balliol stalwarts of the west, the Bruce heartland, the MacDougalls and Comyns eventually found themselves up against Bruce-backed MacDonalds, Campbells, the Menteiths, men of Lennox and the Stewarts, in addition to Bruce's own Carrick forces.
After the deposition of King John de Balliol in 1296, John's father Alexander opposed the power of his new overlord Edward I. The failure of Balliol's kingship fuelled conflict between the MacDougalls and other west Highland kindreds. One of John's most famous actions in later Gaelic tradition was killing Cailean Mór (or "Sir Colin Campbell"). It is not clear what the exact source of conflict was at the time. Cailean, Bruce's second cousin, was "Ballie" of Loch Awe and Ardscotnish, a position he was granted either by King John Balliol or Edward I of England. Sometime after September 1296, Cailean was killed by John's forces at the "Red Ford" on the borders of Loch Awe and Lorne in a skirmish. In 1299, MacDougall forces caused the death of Alexander Og MacDonald, Lord of Islay.
The MacDougall kindred gradually grew more co-operative with King Edward as their rivals grew less so. In 1305 both John and his father became members of the advisory council of Edward's lieutenant in Scotland, John of Brittany. The following year, Robert de Brus, Earl of Carrick, went into open revolt against the English crown, declaring himself King of Scots. The new King Robert met with an upset against pro-English forces at the Battle of Methven, and fled into the west. It was during this time in 1306 that Robert met John's MacDougall forces blocking their way at Tyndrum. At what became known as the Battle of Dail Righ ("King's field"), John defeated Bruce's forces.
In the following year Edward rewarded MacDougall by appointing him sheriff of Argyll and Inchegall. However, as MacDougall informed Edward by letter in 1308, Robert's power was becoming increasingly difficult to live with, and the position of MacDougall's was becoming critical. After experiencing defeat at the Battle of Pass of Brander in 1308, the main MacDougall seat, Dunstaffnage Castle, was captured by Bruce forces. John fled into England with his father entering King Robert's peace. By 1310, John's father Alexander had joined him in England, both attending a royal council at Westminster. Despite losing his father in 1310, in the following years John remained in English service. He was put in charge of English fleets in 1311 and 1314, and in 1315 conquered the Isle of Man for the English crown. John began receiving a pension from Edward II of England in 1316. In this year he died at Ospring in Kent, while making a pilgrimage to Canterbury. He left the Galwegian "Dungal MacDowall" (Dungall MacDubhgall), a fellow political exile from Scotland, in charge of his will.
John left several sons and daughters, though his wife or wives are not known. Among his offspring known by name are:
Ewen (Eóghan)
Alan (Ailean)
Somhairle
Alexander (Alasdair) Óg
Mary (Maire)
He had another daughter who married one Patrick Graham. John's son Eóghan returned to Scotland with Edward Balliol's unsuccessful attempt at the Scottish throne in the 1330s. The MacDougalls re-emerged in Argyll in unknown circumstances later in the century. John's grandson, through Ailean, known as John Gallda ("the Foreigner"), is on record from 1338. Later, John Gallda was styling himself "Lord of Argyll". Eoin 'gallda's son and heir was Eoghan de Ergadia, Laird of Latharna.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_of_Argyll
Eóin or John of Argyll (Latin: Johannes de Ergadia) or John of Lorne, also known as John MacDougall (Scottish Gaelic: Eóin MacDubhgaill (med) or Iain MacDhùghaill), was a Scottish nobleman of the early 14th century. He is often known to today as John Bacach, "the Lame", but there is no authority for that as a contemporary or near-contemporary nickname.
a) EWEN of Argyll (-after 4 Apr [1268]). The Saga of Eirspennill’s Hakon Hakon’s son records that "the kings of the Hebrides were Dugald Screech and his brother Duncan, the father of John who was king afterwards…the sons of Dungal, Somerled’s son"[1050]. The Saga of Eirspennill’s Hakon Hakon’s son records that "John, Duncan’s son, and Dugald, Ruadri’s son" met Alexander II King of Scotland in 1248 and "endeavoured…that the king should give them the title of king over the northern part of the Hebrides"[1051]. "…Domino Ewgenio de Argadia, Domino M. avunculo nostro…" subscribed the charter dated 4 Apr "1218" (suggested redating to 1268 by the editor of the cartulary) under which "Malisius comes de Stratheryn" donated property at Abircarnich to Inchaffray[1052]. m ---. The name of Ewen’s wife is not known. Ewen & his wife had three children :
i) MARY (-[28 Sep 1300/10 Oct 1303], bur London, Grey Friars Church).
ii) ALEXANDER Macdougall ). m --- Comyn, daughter of JOHN Comyn Lord of Badenoch & his first wife Eva ---. Andrew Wyntoun’s Cronykil records that "the Red Cwmyn" had four daughters, of whom the third married "Alysawndyr off Argayle" by whom she had "Jhon off Lorne…Ewyn off Lorne"[1058]. Alexander & his wife had two children:
(a) JOHN . Andrew Wyntoun’s Cronykil records that "the Red Cwmyn" had four daughters, of whom the third married "Alysawndyr off Argayle" by whom she had "Jhon off Lorne…Ewyn off Lorne"[1059]. '
(b) EWEN . Andrew Wyntoun’s Cronykil records that "the Red Cwmyn" had four daughters, of whom the third married "Alysawndyr off Argayle" by whom she had "Jhon off Lorne…Ewyn off Lorne"[1060].
iii) JULIANA .
http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/SCOTTISH%20NOBILITY.htm#DugaldsonSomerledB
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Sir John MacDougall, 5th of Dunollie and of Lorn's Timeline
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Eighth Chief of the clan and the son of Allan, who was the son of our Sixth Chief, Duncan of Dunollie. Dunollie castle was his main seat and the clan duthus. Iain of Dunollie married Christina the daughter of Sir Dougald Campbell of Craignish. He lived with Christiana for twenty years and had one son named Dougall. Christina later married the Alexander the second Chief of the MacNaughtens and still later Ivor Campbell. Traditions say that Iain of Dunollie had a second son Allan who founded the MacDougalls of Raera (Raray) and Ardmaddy. This was the senior cadet family of the MacDougalls of Lorn. Allan of Reyran (Raera or Raray) in Kilninver parish himself had a son called Comham (Gobhainn) Mor (the big blacksmith) from whom descended the McCowans (MacComhain) of Lorn. Iain of Dunollie died around 1400. [ http://www.macdougall.org/chiefs.html ] Iain MacDougall, 8th of Dunollie Gender: Male Birth: estimated between 1267 and 1327 Immediate Family: Son of Alan MacDougall, 7th of Dunollie Husband of Christina Campbell Father of Ewen/Iain/John MacDougall; Allan McDougall, Dunollie; Alaisdar MacDougall and Dougal MacDougall, 9th of Dunollie and of Lorn Brother of Chief Iain of Dunollie Added by: Christine Augusta-Watson Doby on April 23, 2012 Managed by: Louis Craig Smith and Christine Augusta-Watson Doby Source: geni.com https://www.geni.com/people/Ian-MacDougall-8th-of-Dunollie-and-of-Lorn/6000000031140823438?through=6000000001019052409 VIII – Iain of Dunollie (1375 – d. circa 1400) : Eighth Chief of the clan and the son of Allan, who was the son of our Sixth Chief, Duncan of Dunollie. Dunollie castle was his main seat and the clan duthus. Traditions say that Iain of Dunollie, the 8th Chief, had a second son Allan who founded the MacDougalls of Raera (Raray) and Ardmaddy. However, before then there appears to have been an earlier line of MacDougall of Raray as told in the story of the Battle of Allt Dreacy in Netherlorn in 1294 or 1296. Raera was the senior cadet family of the MacDougalls of Lorn. There is a story, but it may be incorrect, that the 8th Chief’s second son Allan of Reyran (Raera or Raray) himself had a son in Kilninver parish called Comham (Gobhainn) Mor (the big blacksmith) from whom descended some of the McCowan families (MacComhain) of Netherlorn. Iain of Dunollie died around 1400.
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=== From Ancestral File (TM), data as of 2 J ===
From Ancestral File (TM), data as of 2 January 1996.
Preferred Parents:
Father: Alasdair Macdubhgaill - Fourth Lord Mormaer Of Lorn, b. 1234 in Lorn, Argyllshire, Scotland, United Kingdom d. 1309 in Dunstaffnage Castle, Oban, Argyllshire, Scotland, United Kingdom
Mother: Julienne Comyn, b. ABT 1230 in Scotland d. BEF 1330 in Scotland
Family 1: Dornagilla MacLachlan, b. 1272 in Scotland, United Kingdom d. 1320 in Scotland, United Kingdom
- Eóghan John Macdougall, b. ABT 1325 in Dunollie Castle, Argyll, Scotland d. BET 1371 AND 1377 in Perthshire, Scotland
- Marie MacDúbhgaill - Heiress of Rathoran, b. 1288 in lorn, argyllshire, scotland d. in Argyll, Schotland
Sources:
- Title: Legacy NFS Source: Baron of Lorne Iain Bacach MacDougall -
Author: Ancestral File (TM), The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, June 1998 (c), data as of 5 JAN 1998
Page: Migrated from user-supplied source citation: urn:familysearch:source:2737222797
- Title: Wikipedia
Author: Boardman, Stephen, The Campbells, 1250–1513, (Edinburgh, 2006)Sellar, W. D. H., "MacDougall, Alexander, lord of Argyll (d. 1310)", in Oxford Dictionary of National Biography, Oxford University Press, 2004 , accessed 1 Aug 2007Sellar, W. D. H., "MacDougall, John, lord of Argyll (d. 1316)", Oxford Dictionary of National Biography, Oxford University Press, 2004 , accessed 1 Aug 2007
Publication: Name: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_of_Argyll;
- Title: Legacy NFS Source: Baron of Lorne Iain Bacach MacDougall -
Author: Ancestral File (R), The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, Copyright (c) 1987, June 1998, data as of 5 January 1998
Page: Migrated from user-supplied source citation: urn:familysearch:source:2737222799
- Title: Clan Donald
Author: Chapter 3: Reginald: The MacDougalls of Lorn: Page 26, Page 30
Note: Donald J MacDonald of Castleton, (Pelican Publishing Company, Greta, Louisiana,, 2008),
- Title: Foundation for Medieval Genealogy (FMG)
Author: SCOTLAND, MORMAERS, EARLS, LORDS: Chapter 9. ARGYLL: DUGALD, son of SOMERLED:
Publication: Name: http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/SCOTTISH%20NOBILITY.htm;
- Title: Legacy NFS Source: Baron of Lorne Iain Bacach MacDougall -
Author: Complete Peerage of England, Scotland, Ireland, Great Britain, and the United Kingdom; GE Cokayne, Sutton Publishing Ltd, Page number: VIII:142ch
Note: Source Media Type: Book
Page: Migrated from user-supplied source citation: urn:familysearch:source:2736741118
- Title: The Peerage: A genealogical survey of the peerage of Britain as well as the royal families of Europe
Author: Sir John Macdougall, 5th of Dunollie and of Lorn: ID #510680
Publication: Name: http://www.thepeerage.com/p51068.htm#i510680;
- Title: Wikipedia
Publication: Name: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_of_Argyll;
- Title: Wikipedia
Publication: Name: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_of_Argyll;
- Title: https://www.geni.com/people/Sir-John-MacDougall-5th-of-Dunollie-and-of-Lorn/6000000004533918807
Author: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_of_Argyll
Publication: Name: https://www.geni.com/people/Sir-John-MacDougall-5th-of-Dunollie-and-of-Lorn/6000000004533918807;
- Title: Legacy NFS Source: John Macdougal - birth-name: John Macdougal
Author: Ancestry Family Trees, Online publication - Provo, UT, USA: Ancestry.com. Original data: Family Tree files submitted by Ancestry members., Ancestry.com, http://www.Ancestry.com, Page number: Ancestry Family Trees
Note: birth-name: John Macdougal
This information comes from 1 or more individual Ancestry Family Tree files. This source citation points you to a current version of those files. Note: The owners of these tree files may have removed or changed information since this source citation was created.
Page: Migrated from user-supplied source citation: urn:familysearch:source:3246042471
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