John le Strange

• Preferred Name: John le Strange^{[1] [2] [3]}
  
• Gender: M
  
• Birth: 18 MAY 1282 in Ellesmere, Shropshire, England at LATI: N2.8958 LONG: E2.8823
  
• Half+Brother+to+Lord+John+Le+Strange+(VI).: with note: Source attached.
  
• http://familysearch.org/v1/TitleOfNobility: Succeeded his father John at his death, as Lord Strange of Knockin at age 27.1309 with note: Le Strange Records, Pedigree No. IX Barony of Strange of Knockin.
  
• Death: ABT 6 FEB 1311 in Shropshire, England at LATI: N2.6431 LONG: E2.7136
  
• http://familysearch.org/v1/TitleOfNobility: Lord of Middle Manor, King's Yeoman in Myddle, Shropshire, England at LATI: N2.8086 LONG: E2.78 with note: Source attached.
  
• FSID: LHTH-PQK
  
• Notes:

  === Life Sketch ===
  «b»Biography«/b»
  John Le Strange, 2nd Lord Strange, son and heir by father's 1st marriage, born about 1282. He married Iseult ___ . They had two sons, John [3rd Lord Strange and Roger [4th Lord Strange. John Le strange, 2nd Lord Strange died shortly before 6 Feb. 1310/1. His widow, Iseult, was living 18 May 1324.
  
  This John had a less well-known brother who was also named John, and who held Walton d'Eiville. They had different mothers. These things were not known until the mid 20th century, and so older sources get this wrong.
  
  Naming the wives of their father John Le Strange (V) (the father of the two Johns) has been a source of confusion, left open by the most well-known Le Strange authorities, Reverend Eyton, and Hamon Le Strange. But progress has been made in understanding it during the 20 century. In 1946, Cecil L'Estrange Ewen published a short note intended to cover issues not yet clear in the older authorities, the second edition of Complete Peerage cites and follows him.
  
  He demonstrated that the first wife of John was Alianora de Montz, daughter and heir of Eble (or Eubolo) de Montz, constable of Windsor castle. She was the mother of John le Strange VI, and also Hamo and Eble le Strange.
  
  A confusion arises because Alianora's mother used the same name as her husband John's mother, "Joan de Someri", but they were quite different people.
  
  A second confusion arises because with his second wife Maud de Walton, John had a second son named John, who inherited his second wife's lands in Walton d' Eiville. L' Estrange Ewen also believes that from this second marriage came Elizabeth, who married a Welsh prince.
  
  As recently as 2014, the well known genealogist Douglas Richardson announced new findings online concerning this first wife's mother. Joan Someri was already known to have been using the surname of her first husband, but Richardson gave evidence that Joan's maiden name was Bohun, and that she belonged to the Bohun family of Midhurst in Sussex.
  
  Concerning the parentage of the second wife, many sources including older versions of the Complete Peerage made an amalgam of several people. But as explained in more recent sources such as L' Estrange Ewen, Richardson and The Victoria History of Warwickshire (under Wellesbourne), Maud de Walton (or de Wauton) was daughter of John de Wauton, son of Simon de Wauton, who bought the manor from the D'Eiville family when Roger d'Eiville had money trouble.
  
  By 1385, as explained in the Victoria County History article for Wellesbourne in Warwickshire, John and his wife Ida had been succeeded by their heir, Sir John, and his wife Mabel.
  
  Douglas Richardson also noted in his Magna Carta Ancestry (2nd edition, page 518) that Ida the wife of John is Ida de Clinton, daughter to John de Clinton, 2nd Lord Clinton, and his wife Margery Corbet.
  
  This was a possibility that had already been raised by L'Estrange Ewen in 1946. A key piece of evidence is a papal marriage dispensation, dated 6 June 1336, because John had previously had a mistress related to Ida.
  
  BIO
  BIO: from http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/ENGLISHNOBILITYMEDIEVAL3L-O.htm#JohnVLestrangedied1309B as of 5/27/2016
  
  JOHN [VI] le Strange ([1281/82]-[6] Feb 1311). Lord Strange (of Knokyn).
  
  m ISOLD
  
  === !NAME: Eldest Son ===
  !NAME: Eldest Son
  
  !SOURCES: Dougdale's Monastion iii, 348, V358, Egtons His of Shropshire Vol X,
  p. 259 et seq VI, 107, VII, 24, IX 24. Pipe Rolls passim. Close Rolls, 18 Henry
  II, M. 31, Edward II, 1307-13, p. 202. Complete Perrage VII, 268, 271, 273.
  Patent Rolls, 44. Henry III, M. 3. Bloomfields Norfolk X, 333. IPM 4 Edward
  II, no. 39. Inquisitions 4 Edward 1, no. 32, 17 Edward I, No. 17. Edward II,
  No. 73. 3 Edward II, no. 46, 4 Ed. II, no. 34. Plea Rolls 4 Edward 1, m. 1.
  
  !RESEARCH: Lease report #8, p. 7, fg 23
  
  === CP 12 p 353 John VI Lord Strange son and ===
  CP 12 p 353 John VI Lord Strange son and heir aged 27 at his father's death. He married Iselt. He died on or before 6 Feb 1310/1. His widow was living 18 May 1324.
  
  === John le Strange, 2nd Baron Strange of K ===
  John le Strange, 2nd Baron Strange of Knockyn, was summoned to Parliament June 13, 1311, and both before and after his succession was in the Scottish wars. He married Isolda, daughter and heir of John de Walton, of Walton D'Eiville, and died a year after his father in 1311. He was succeeded by his elder son John, who was summoned to Parliament January 8 and July 26, 1313, as 3rd Baron Strange, but died sine prole in 1324 and was succeeded by his brother, Roger le Strange.
  
  === The Shropshire inquisition on the death ===
  The Shropshire inquisition on the death of John le Strange (V), taken on September 20, 1309, states that his son and heir, John, was then aged twenty-seven, and was born on May 18, 1282. He only survived his father for about eighteen months, but that short period sufficed for him to execute the important series of documents, the evidences of which will be set out in extenso, by virtue of which the Hunstanton estate was vested in his younger brother Hamon, who, on his part, counter-claimed Knockin to John.
  During his father's lifetime John, son of John le Strange, was employed on the King's service in the Scotch wars; it was perhaps this which obliged him to borrow 20s. on December 12, 1308, from Adam de Osgodby, a prominent Chancery clerk under Edward II, which sum was to be levied in default on his lands in the county of Stafford. John, the father, had been ordered a few days before his death to raise a hundred foot-soldiers from Knockin for service against the Scots; Edward II had other matters requiring his attention, so a truce was patched up with Scotland, and, on September 11, the custodian of the lands of John le Strange of Knockin was notified that the hundred men would not be wanted.
  The escheator had been directed on September 8, 1309, to take into the King's hands the lands late of John le Strange of Knockin, deceased, tenant-in-chief; a month later, on October 6, the same official was ordered to deliver the said lands to John, son and heir of John le Strange, he having done homage; saving to Maud, late the wife of John, her dower.
  
  John made use of the instrumentality or trusteeship of his brother to effect an entail of Knockin on the heirs of himself and his wife Isolda, and this will account for the finding of the inquest on his death that he and Isolda had acquired that manor from Hamon. The same arrangement was also made with regard to Melverley, part of le Strange's feoffment under fitz Alan. Immediately after his father's death John le Strange (VI) was summoned, by writ dated at York on October 26, 1309, to attend the Parliament to be held there on February 8 following. In the autumn of 1310 Edward invaded Scotland, and John le Strange was one of the barons summoned to the muster at Berwick on September 8.
  John le Strange (VI) must have died early in 1311, probably during the month of January; the writ of 'Diem clausit extremum' upon his death is tested at Berwick-upon-Tweed, February 6, 1311.
  (Le Strange Records, page 255-264)

• m. ABT 1295

1. Roger Le Strange, b. 15 AUG 1301 in Knockin in Oswestry, Shropshire, England     d. 29 JUL 1349 in Sedgebrook, Lincolnshire, England

1. Title: Corrections to 1916 Le Strange Records
   Publication: Name: http://web.archive.org/web/20060118080654/http://www.asiawrite.co.nz/lestrange/library/observations.html;
   Page: Source.
   
2. Title: Our Royal, Titled, Noble, and Commoner Ancestors & Cousins
   Publication: Name: https://our-royal-titled-noble-and-commoner-ancestors.com/p1135.htm#i34084;
   
3. Title: Le Strange records : a chronicle of the early Le Stranges of Norfolk and the March of Wales A.D. 1100-1310
   Author: page 331 for Roger le Strange, his father Roger on page 326, on page 324 his father John. and page 323 for his father John
   Publication: Name: https://archive.org/stream/lestrangerecords00lestuoft#page/330/mode/2up;
   Note: page 327 Roger was summoned to Portsmouth with 10 men of arms and 27 archers. He was summoned to Parliament 25 Feb 1342- 10 March 1348. page 328 Roger married twice: Maud was the mother of his son and heir Roger II. Joan Ingham who was mentioned in her father's inquest 23 March 1344 as married to Roger. page 329 Roger died 29 July 1349