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Margaret Scales
- Preferred Name: Margaret Scales[1] [2] [3] [4]
- Gender: F
- Death: 8 MAY 1416 in East Winch, Norfolk, England at LATI: N2.7168 LONG: E0.5101
- FSID: LVMF-Q6G
- Birth: 1339 in Hertfordshire, England at LATI: N1.8375 LONG: E0.1895 with note: Standardized.
The United Kingdom didn't exist until 1801.
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- Burial: 1416 in East Winch, Norfolk, England at LATI: N2.7168 LONG: E0.5101
- Notes:
=== Life Sketch ===
Margaret de Scales Howard
Birth 1339
Hertfordshire, England
Death 8 May 1416 (aged 76–77)
East Winch, Kings Lynn and West Norfolk Borough, Norfolk, England
Burial
Austin Friars Church Cemetery
Norwich, City of Norwich, Norfolk, England
Memorial ID 65632145 · View Source
Memorial
Photos 0
Flowers 41
Elder daughter of Sir Robert de Scales and Katherine de Ufford. Granddaughter of Sir Robert de Scales and Egeline de Courtenay, Robert de Ufford, Earl of Suffolk, and Margaret de Norwich.
Margaret was the wife of Sir Robert Howard, the son and heir to Sir John Howard of the same, and Alice de Bois, daughter of Sir Robert. They had one son and one daughter: Sir John and Margaret, wife of Constantine de Clifton.
Sir Robert died in 1388, and Margaret married Sir Walter de Bermingham of Ireland who died before 10 Feb 1401. Margaret left a will dated 08 May 1416, and was buried with her first husband in the south side of the chancel at East Winch, Norfolk.
Buried at the Austin Friars, Norwich, per An Essay Towards a Topographical History of the County of Norfolk by Francis Blomefield and Charles Parkin.
Family Members
Parents
Robert de Scales
1315–1369
Catherine De Ufford Scales
1318 – unknown
Spouse
Robert Howard
1336–1389
Children
John Howard
1357–1436
Margaret Howard Clifton
1376–1434
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MARGARET (or MARGERY) DE SCALES, married (1st) WALTER DE BERMINGHAM (or BERMYNGHAM), Knt., of Ireland, son and heir of Sir Walter de Bermingham, Knt., of Castle-Carbury, co. Kildare, Ireland, Schanbo, co. Kilkenny, etc., Justiciar of Ireland, 1346-9, by Elizabeth, daughter and co-heiress of Thomas de Multon, Knt., 1st Lord Multon of Egremont. He was baptized at Fleet, Lincolnshire 24 June 1337. They had no issue. In 1358, he then being a knight and still a minor, he appointed attorneys to represent him in England, he then going to Ireland on the king's order. SIR WALTER DE BERMINGHAM died 10 August 1361. His widow, Margaret, married (2nd) before 10 March 1363 ROBERT HOWARD, Knt., of East Winch, East Walton, Fersfield, Garboldisham, South Clenchwarton, South Wootton, Terrington, and Wiggenhall, Norfolk, Brokes (in Ipswich), Suffolk, etc., son and heir of John Howard, Knt., of East Wnch and Wiggenhall, Norfolk, Admiral of the Fleet north of the Thames, by Alice, daughter of Robert de Bois, Knt. He was born about 1342 (age 30 in 1372). They had three sons, John, Knt., Edmund, and Robert, and three daughters, Alice (nun at Thetford), Margaret, and Katherine. In 1362, going beyond seas with Thomas de Ufford, he had letters nominating Robert de Causton, Knt. and John Bertilmeu as his attorneys in England for two years. In Feb. 1363, staying in England, he had letters nominating John de Shardelowe, Knt., and John Bothevyll as his attorneys in Ireland for two years. In March 1363, he and his wife, Margaret, staying in England, they had letters nominating John de Bothevill and William de Methele as their attorneys in Ireland for two years. In March 1366, staying in England, he had letters nominating Robert Mayn and Richard de Walton as his attorneys in England in Ireland for one year. In 1368 he sued Edward de Saint Omer and others regarding a tenurial and prescriptive duty for tenements in Tilney, Norfolk to repair and sustain a wall against sea storms and freshwater flooding. He was imprisoned in the Tower of London in June 1378, for detaining Margery de Nerford from her grandmother, Lady Alice Neville, with the intention of resisting an appeal pending in the papal court in Margery's suit to annul her contract of marriage with John de Brewes. In August 1378 Robert was released by decision of the Council, provided he make every effort to bring Margery before the Council at the quinzaine of Michaelmas next. On his failure to produce Margery, he was again arrested and released on mainprise 11 December 1378, on Margery being brought before the Council 10 December. In May 1379 he was granted an exemption for life from being put on assizes, juries or recognizances, and from being made a mayor, sheriff, escheator, coroner, etc. In 1386 he petitioned the king, requesting that the king order Thomas de Morley, Knt., and his colleagues to stay all proceedings in an assize of oyer and terminer into an alleged trespass by Howard and others at Bressingham, Norfolk; he further stated the assize was brought maliciously by Edmund Noon in retaliation for an assize brought against him by Robert and his wife, Margaret, over free tenements in Bressingham, Fersfield, and Tilney, Norfolk. SIR ROBERT HOWARD died at East Winch, Norfolk 18 July 1388. He left a will proved July 1389. In 1394-5 William Bolt and others were outlawed on an action by Margaret, widow of Robert Howard, Knt., for one third of a whale stranded at Terrington, Norfolk. In 1399 she sued Walter son of Henry Baldyng and three others in the Court of Common Pleas regarding a trespass [vi et armis] at Terrington, Norfolk. The same year she sued John Ferour, of Tilney, Norfolk, in the Court of Commons Pleas regarding the detention of a horse. Margaret left a will dated 8 May 1416. Robert and his wife, Margaret, were buried in the south side of the chancel at East Winch, Norfolk.
References:
Blomefield, Essay towards a Top. Hist. of Norfolk 1 (1739): 70-71; 1 (1805): 74-114; 3 (1769): 155-171; 5 (1806): 235-259. Brydges, Collins' Peerage of England 1 (1812): 50-143. Burke, Dict. of the Peerages... Extinct, Dormant & in Abeyance 2 (1832): 231-235 (sub Howard). Ellis, Original Letters of Eminent Lit. Men (Camden Soc. 23) (1843): 114-123, esp. 115 (Howard ped.: "Robertus Howard miles. = Margareta filia Rob'ti d'ni Scales supervixit maritum."). Top. & Gen. 2 (1853): 90-96. Harvey, Vis. of Norfolk 1563 1 (1878): 15-16 (Howard ped.: "Sir Robt. Howard knight = Margaret dr. of Robert Lord Scalles"). Waters, Chester of Chicheley 1 (1878): 253-255 (Scales ped.). Burke, Dormant, Abeyant, Forfeited & Extinct Peerages (1883): 284 (sub Howard). Genealogist n.s. 3 (1886): 90-91. Harvey et al. Vis. of Norfolk 1563 & 1613 (H.S.P. 32) (1891): 162-164 (Howard ped.: "Sir Robert Howard, knight = Margaret da. to Robert, lord Scales"). C.P.R. 1358-1361 (1895): 89. C.P.R. 1377-1381 (1895): 38, 41, 47, 96, 299, 307, 347, 360, 417, 420, 472, 513, 515, 571, 579, 581. C.P.R. 1399-1401 (1903): 427, 474. Wrottesley, Peds. from the Plea Rolls (1905): 414-415. Brenan & Statham, House of Howard 1 (1907). C.P.R. 1396-1399 (1909): 129. Copinger, Manors of Suffolk 4 (1909): 121-122. C.P.R. 1361-1364 (1912): 251, 311, 320. C.P.R. 1364-1367 (1912): 227. C.C.R. 1377-1381 (1914): 149, 204, 220, 222, 227-228. C.P.R. 1370-1374 (1914): 289. C.P.R. 1374-1377 (1916): 133, 138, 328, 332, 485, 497. C.C.R. 1381-1385 (1920): 545-546, 613. C.P. 11 (1949): 507 (sub Scales). Cal. IPM 13 (1954): 267. Paget, Baronage of England (1957) 294: 1; 488: 1-8 (sub Scales). Chancery Misc. 5 (List & Index. Soc. 49) (1970): 200. VCH Cambridge 5 (1973): 230. Chancery Miscellanea 8 (List & Index Soc. 105) (1974): 286. Roskell, House of Commons 1386-1421 3 (1992): 431-433 (biog. of Sir John Howard). Palmer, English Law in the Age of the Black Death 1348-1381 (1993): 401. Court of Common Pleas, CP40/555, image 165f (available at http://aalt.law.uh.edu/H4/CP40no555/aCP40no555fronts/IMG_0165.htm). Court of Common Pleas, CP40/555, image 292d (available at http://aalt.law.uh.edu/H4/CP40no555/bCP40no555dorses/IMG_0292.htm). National Archives, SC 8/18/889; SC 8/183/9113 (available at www.catalogue.nationalarchives.gov.uk/search.asp).
=== !BIR-MAR-DEA: Bk, Medieval Knight by Ste ===
!BIR-MAR-DEA: Bk, Medieval Knight by Stephen Turnbull.
=== BURKE'S PEERAGES (GS NUMBER 942 D22BUG); ===
BURKE'S PEERAGES (GS NUMBER 942 D22BUG); BLOOMFIELDS HISTORY OF NORFOLK; ENGLAND PUBLICATION N, VOL 9 P.503; NORTHAMPTONSHIRE PUBLICATION 3, VOL 1 P.588, 589; PEDIGREE OF DUKE OF NORFOLK AND EARL OF SUFFOLK, PBARON HOWARD OF GLOSSOP, BY JOSEPH FOSTER; ANCESTRAL FILE, LDS GENEALOGICAL SOCIETY;
Preferred Parents:
Father: Robert de Scales 3rd Baron Scales, b. 1312 in Middleton, Norfolk, England d. 13 AUG 1369 in Middleton, Norfolk, England
Mother: Catherine de Ufford, b. 1318 in Norfolk, England d. 1370 in Middleton, Norfolk, England
Family 1: Robert Howard, b. 1336 in Wiggenhall St Peter, Norfolk, England d. 18 JUL 1389 in East Winch, Norfolk, England
- m. BEF 10 MAR 1363 in England
- m. 1365 in of Middleton, Norfolk, England
- m. 1365 in Middleton, Norfolk, England
- Margaret Howard, b. 1376 in Wiggenhall St Germans, Norfolk, England d. 25 MAR 1433 in Norwich, Norfolk, England
Sources:
- Title: Margaret de Scales Howard, "Find A Grave Index"
Author: "Find A Grave Index," database, FamilySearch (https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QV23-LFQB : 15 July 2020), Margaret de Scales Howard, 1416; Burial, , ; citing record ID , Find a Grave, http://www.findagrave.com.
Publication: Name: https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QV23-LFQB;
Note: https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/65632145/margaret-howard
Margaret de Scales Howard
BIRTH 1339 Hertfordshire, England
DEATH 8 May 1416 (aged 76–77) East Winch, Kings Lynn and West Norfolk Borough, Norfolk, England
BURIAL Austin Friars Church Cemetery
Norwich, City of Norwich, Norfolk, England
MEMORIAL ID 65632145
Elder daughter of Sir Robert de Scales and Katherine de Ufford. Margaret was the wife of Sir Robert Howard. Sir Robert died in 1388, and Margaret married Sir Walter de Bermingham. Margaret left a will dated 08 May 1416, and was buried with her first husband in the south side of the chancel at East Winch, Norfolk.
Page: same name, birth year, death date and burial place
- Title: Book - Magna Charta ancestry
Author: Google Books
Note: Margaret (Margery) Scales
d/o Robert Scales , 3rd Lord Scales, & Catherine Ufford
b- 1339 - Scales Hall, Midleton,Norfolk,England
m-1- bef 19 March 1363 - Robert Howard
2 - after 8 May 1416 - Walter Birmingham,Knt, of Irelabd
d - after 8 May 1416 -
8 May 1416 - WILL dated - MARGERY SCALES HOWARD BRIMINGHAM
- Title: Book - Baronia Angelica Concentrata
Author: Google Books
Note: Margery Scales
d/o Robert Scales & Catherine Ufford
m- Sir, Robert Howard
- Title: Margaret Scales in Our Royal, Titled, Noble, and Commoner Ancestors
Publication: Name: https://our-royal-titled-noble-and-commoner-ancestors.com/p424.htm#i12739;
Note: Margaret Scales (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9)
Last Edited 4 Apr 2020
F, #12739
Father Sir Robert Scales, 3rd Lord Scales (2,3,10,5,11,6,7,8,9) b. c 1312, d. 13 Aug 1369
Mother Katherine de Ufford (2,10,11,7,9)
Margaret Scales married Sir Robert Howard, son of Sir John Howard, Sheriff & Escheator of Norfolk & Suffolk, Admiral of the North Fleet and Alice de Bois, before 10 March 1363; They had 3 sons (Sir John; Edmund; & Robert) and 3 daughters (Alice, a nun at Thetford; Margaret, wife of Constantine, 2nd Lord Clifton, & of Sir Gilbert Talbot; & Katherine). (2,3,4,5,11,6,7,8,9) Margaret Scales left a will on 8 May 1416; Buried in the south side of the chancel at East Winch, Norfolk. She married (2) Sir Walter de Bermingham of Ireland (d. before 10 February 1401). (2,4,7,9)
Family: Sir Robert Howard b. c 1342, d. 18 Jul 1388
Children:
Margaret Howard+2,12,3,4,5,6,7,8 d. 25 Mar 1434
Sir John Howard, Sheriff of Essex, Hertfordshire, Cambridgeshire, & Huntingdonshire+13,4,7 b. c 1365, d. 17 Nov 1436
Citations:
1. [S3558] Unknown author, Burke's Peerage, 1938, p. 1858; The Ancestry of Dorothea Poyntz, by Ronny O. Bodine, p. 93; Magna Charta by Wurts, p. 400.
2. [S5] Douglas Richardson, Plantagenet Ancestry, p. 233.
3. [S16] Douglas Richardson, Magna Carta Ancestry, 2nd Edition, Vol. I, p. 573.
4. [S16] Douglas Richardson, Magna Carta Ancestry, 2nd Edition, Vol. II, p. 407-408.
5. [S16] Douglas Richardson, Magna Carta Ancestry, 2nd Edition, Vol. III, p. 433.
6. [S4] Douglas Richardson, Royal Ancestry, Vol. II, p. 258.
7. [S4] Douglas Richardson, Royal Ancestry, Vol. III, p. 329-330.
8. [S4] Douglas Richardson, Royal Ancestry, Vol. IV, p. 470-471.
9. [S4] Douglas Richardson, Royal Ancestry, Vol. IV, p. 571.
10. [S16] Douglas Richardson, Magna Carta Ancestry, 2nd Edition, Vol. II, p. 407.
11. [S16] Douglas Richardson, Magna Carta Ancestry, 2nd Edition, Vol. III, p. 512.
12. [S5] Douglas Richardson, Plantagenet Ancestry, p. 495.
13. [S5] Douglas Richardson, Plantagenet Ancestry, p. 233-234.
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