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John de Warrene
- Preferred Name: John de Warrene[1] [2] [3] [4] [5] [6] [7] [8]
- Alternate Name: John Warren
- Alternate Name: Sir John
- Gender: M
- FSID: LRS7-ZBD
- Title (Nobility): with note: Description: Earl of Surrey
- Birth: 30 JUN 1286 in Sussex, England at LATI: N0.981 LONG: E0.3385 with note: Or 24th June 1286, see https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_de_Warenne,_7th_Earl_of_Surrey
- Burial: AFT 30 JUN 1347 in Lewes St Thomas at Cliffe, Lewes, Sussex, England at LATI: N0.8742 LONG: E0.0211
- Death: 30 JUN 1347 in Sussex, England at LATI: N0.981 LONG: E0.3385
- Occupation: Lord of Bromfield and Yale1347 in Bromfield, Shropshire, England, United Kingdom at LATI: N2.389 LONG: E2.7696 with note: In will
- Notes:
=== Life Sketch ===
John de Warenne (30 June 1286 – June 1347), 7th Earl of Surrey or Warenne, was the last Warenne earl of Surrey.
He was the son of William de Warenne, the only son of John de Warenne, 6th Earl of Surrey. His mother was Joan, daughter of Robert de Vere, 5th Earl of Oxford. Warenne was only six months old when his father died, and was 8 years old when his mother died. He succeeded his grandfather as earl when he was 18. He was knighted along with the Prince of Wales, the future Edward II, in 1306. From that time onwards he was much engaged in the Scottish wars.
He was one of the great nobles offended by the rise of Edward II's favorite Piers Gaveston, and helped secure Gaveston's 1308 banishment. The two were somewhat reconciled after Gaveston's return the next year, but in 1312 Warenne was one of the nobles who captured Gaveston. He was however unhappy about Gaveston's execution at the behest of the earl of Warwick, which pushed him back into the king's camp.
The baronial opposition was led by the king's cousin Thomas, Earl of Lancaster, and he and Warenne became bitter enemies. Private war erupted between the two, and over the next few years Warenne lost a good part of his estates to Lancaster.
Warenne was one of the four earls who captured the two Roger Mortimers, the uncle and the nephew, and in 1322 he was one of the nobles who condemned to death the earl of Lancaster.
Warenne and his brother-in-law Edmund Fitzalan, 9th Earl of Arundel, were the last two earls to remain loyal to Edward II after the rise to power of Queen Isabella and Roger Mortimer. After Arundel's execution he went over to the queen's side, urging Edward II's abdication in 1327.
He was the guardian of his cousin Edward Balliol, and after Balliol lay claim to the Scottish throne, accompanied him on his campaign in Lothian. Balliol created Warenne earl of Strathern, but this was in name only for the properties of the earldom were held by the Scots.
Warenne died in 1347 and is buried at the monastery of Lewes. He was succeeded as earl by his nephew Richard Fitzalan, who was also earl of Arundel.
On 25 May 1306 Warenne married Joan of Bar, daughter of count Henry III of Bar and Eleanor of England, eldest daughter of king Edward I of England. The two were soon estranged and lived apart, and had no children, though the marriage was never dissolved.
Warenne instead had a long partnership/relationship with Matilda de Nerford, with whom he had several illegitimate children one of whom included Sir Edward de Warren, Joan, Katherine, Isabell, and William. Later he had relations with Isabella Holland, sister of Thomas Holland, later earl of Kent, but did not marry her.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_de_Warenne,_7th_Earl_of_Surrey
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Dictionary of National Biography, 1885-1900, Volume 59, by Thomas Frederick Tout:
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Warenne left numerous illegitimate children. His children by Matilda de Nerford, named
1. John and
2. Thomas, who were living in 1316, had apparently died before him.
3. He had a Welsh son named Ravlyn, who in 1334 joined in the attack of the Hope garrison on Ralph Butler.
The sons mentioned in the will are:
(1) Sir William de Warenne, the largest legatee, to whom his father had in January 1340 granted 122 acres of waste from the manor of Hatfield, Yorkshire, at a rent of 10l. a year (Cal. Pat. Rolls, 1338–40, p. 411).
(2) Edward de Warenne, the same probably as the Sir Edward de Warren who, by his marriage with Cicely de Eton, heiress of the barons of Stockport, established himself at Poynton and Stockport, Cheshire, and was the ancestor of the later Warrens of Poynton, barons of Stockport. It was in honour of the last male representative of this house, Sir George Warren (d. 1801), that John Watson, rector of Stockport, wrote his elaborate ‘History of the Earls of Warren or Surrey,’ in which he vainly sought to prove the legitimate descent of his benefactor from Reginald de Warren, the son of Earl William (d. 1138) [q. v.] of the elder Norman house, and to urge that the earldom ought to be revived in his favour. The early arms of this family suggest that Matilda de Nerford was Edward's mother.
(3) Another William de Warenne, prior of Horton, Kent, to whom his father bequeathed his French bible.
There were also three daughters:
(4) Joan de Basing;
(5) Catharine; and
(6) Isabella, a canoness of Sempringham.
https://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Warenne,_John_de_(1286-1347)_(DNB00)
=== !AKA: John de Warenne, 8th and last Earl ===
!AKA: John de Warenne, 8th and last Earl of Surrey of this family Doc. Line 231-30 !BIRTH: Date: June 30, 1286 (said to have been born then) - Doc. Line 231-30 !CHILDREN: Of John de Warenne, Earl and Maud of Nerford Edward (natural son of John de Warenne, Earl and Maud of Nerford) Doc. Line 231-31 !DEATH: Date: June 29, 1347 (d.s.p.m. legit. (died without legitimate male issue)) - Doc. Line 231-30
=== !SOURCE: ANCESTRAL ROOTS OF SIXTY COLON ===
!SOURCE: ANCESTRAL ROOTS OF SIXTY COLONISTS WHO CAME TO NEW ENGLAND BETWEEN 1623 AND 1650, 6TH ED, PG 187 LINE 231 ITEM 30. DIED WITHOUT LEGITIMATE ISSUE. 8TH AND LAST EARL OF SURREY OF THIS FAMILY.
=== John de Warenne (June 30, 1286 ? June 13 ===
John de Warenne (June 30, 1286 ? June 1347), 8th Earl of Surrey or Warenne, was the last Warenne earl of Surrey.
He was the son of William de Warenne, the only son of John de Warenne, 7th Earl of Surrey. His mother was Joanna, daughter of Robert de Vere, 5th Earl of Oxford.
Warenne was only six months old when his father died, and was 7 years old when his mother died. He succeeded his grandfather as earl when he was 19.
He was one of the great nobles offended by the rise of the Edward II's favorite Piers Gaveston, and help secure Gaveston's 1308 banishment. The two were somewhat reconciled after Gaveston's return the next year, but in 1311 Warenne was one of the nobles who captured Gaveston. He was however unhappy about Gaveston's execution at the behest of the earl of Warwick, which pushed him back into the king's camp.
The baronial opposition was led by the king's cousin Thomas, Earl of Lancaster, and he and Warenne became bitter enemies. Private war erupted between the two, and over the new few years Warenne lost a good part of his estates to Lancaster.
Warenne was one of the four earls who captured the two Roger Mortimers, and in 1322 he was one of the nobles who condemned to death the earl of Lancaster.
Warenne and his brother-in-law Edmund Fitzalan, 9th Earl of Arundel were the last two earls to remain loyal to Edward II after the rise to power of Queen Isabella and Roger Mortimer. After Arundel's execution he went over to the queen's side, urging Edward II's abdication in 1327.
He was the guardian of his cousin Edward Balliol, and after Balliol lay claim to the Scottish throne, accompanied him on his campaign in Lothian. Balliol created Warenne earl of Strathern, but this was in name only for the properties of the earldom were held by another claimant.
Warenne died in 1347 and is buried at the monastery of Lewes. He was succeeded as earl by his nephew Richard Fitzalan, who was also earl of Arundel.
On May 25, 1306 Warenne married Jeanne of Bar, daughter of count Henry III of Bar and Eleanor, eldest daughter of king Edward I of England. The two were soon estranged and live apart, and had no children, though the marriage was never dissolved.
Warenne instead took up with Matilda de Nerford, by whom he had several illegitimate children, and later with Isabella Holland, sister of Thomas Holland, later earl of Kent.
(Wikipedia)
John de Warren, last Earl of Warren and Surrey, married Joan de Barre, daughter of Henry de Barr and Alianore, eldest daughter of King Edward I, in 1305. John made his last will at his castle of Konigsborough, on the 24th of June, 1347, and died the 30th. In it he mentions his son William, and son Edward, "mon filz" to receive ?20. Also mentions daughters Johanna, Katherine and Isabelle. In 1316 he made a charter mentioning his two sons John and Thomas, but they died in the lifetime of their father. This Edward therefore was born after 1316. This is by far the most remarkable name which occurs in this will; for we venture to think that the discovery of the existence of a son of the last Earl of Warren, who bore the name of Edward, was all that was wanted to destroy the argument of the author of the House of Warren (Watson) in which he labours to show that the Warrens of Poynton, in Cheshire, did not descend, as was generally believed, from an illegitimate son of this John Warren, last Earl, but from some junior member of the 1st House of Warren. Mr. Watson admits that the Warrens of Poynton descend from an Edward Warren, who must have been a contemporary of this Edward Warren. Vincent makes him son of John, son of John, the last Earl. (See Generations 6 and 7.) It is sure that the Warrens of Poynton bore arms which this Edward would naturally assume, those of his father John Warren, last Earl, and of his mother Maud Nehrford; the Warren arms with a canton of Nehrford. And further there has always been a strong tradition that the Warrens of Poynton did descend from an illegitimate son of the last Earl, the first undoubted ancestor of the Poynton Warrens.
The above would throw out Generation No. 6, John, son of John, last Earl. This Edward Warren was a son, and not a grandson, of the last Earl. Either way it would give descent from Robert de Vere.
(Kin of Mellcene Thurman Smith, page 181-182)
=== 8th and last Earl of Surrey of this fam ===
8th and last Earl of Surrey of this family. Died without le gitimate male issue.
=== !BIR-MAR: Bk, Medieval Knight by Stephen ===
!BIR-MAR: Bk, Medieval Knight by Stephen Turnbull.
=== John de Warenne, 8th and last Earl of Su ===
John de Warenne, 8th and last Earl of Surrey of this family, said to have been b. 30 June 1286, d.s.p.m. legit. 29 June 1347. [Ancestral Roots]
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EARLDOM OF SURREY (VIII)
JOHN (DE WARENNE), EARL OF SURREY, grandson and heir, being son of William DE WARENNE and Joan his wife; is said to have been born 30 June 1286. On 7 April 1306 he was granted seisin of the lands of which his grandfather was seised in demesne as of fee, although still a minor. On 25 May he married the King's granddaughter, having been knighted with Prince Edward on 22 May. In July 1307 he had not yet done homage; but he was summoned to Parliament by writ dated 26 August and constantly thereafter. On 2 December 1307 he with his party opposed Piers de Gavaston and his party at a tournament at Wallingford. In January 1307/8 he was going with the King to France and by writ dated 18 January 1307/8 he was summoned to attend the Coronation; and in June to perform service in person against the Scots, and frequently thereafter. In June 1309 he was ordered not to tourney or seek adventures in England. On 11 May 1310 he was present at the delivery of the Great Seal to the King, and in June had grants of manors and the castle of High Peak at farm; and in August was with the King to Scotland. In February 1310/1 with the Earl of Gloucester he rode, through the great forest of Selkirk, and received the foresters into the King's peace, and later opposed the proposed ordinances for the government of the realm. On 10 May 1312 Piers de Gavaston fled to Scarborough Castle, where he was besieged by the Earls of Surrey and Pembroke; and, although on 17 May the Earl was ordered to abandon the siege, Piers was compelled to surrender on 19 May on a formal promise that his life should be spared. When the Earl of Warwick seized and beheaded Piers in defiance of their pledge, the Earls joined the King. On 17 January 1312/3 he was forbidden to attend a tournament at Newmarket, and on 16 September at Brackley. In May the Bishop of Norwich was proposing to publish a sentence against him, but was requested by the King, who was abroad, to defer the matter until his return because of the Earl's responsibilities during the King's absence. In 1314 he refused to serve in the Bannockburn campaign. On 3 September 1314 he was ordered not to impede the attendance of the Archbishop of Canterbury at the Parliament to be held at York. In 1317 he was induced by the barons to take a large force to attack the Earl of Lancaster; his courage failed, but on 15 May he carried off the countess. On 3 November Lancaster had attacked his castles; but in Nov. 1318 their differences were conditionally composed. In July 1319 Surrey was summoned to a muster at Newcastle, and on 29 August entered Scotland with the King. During 1321 he joined the King in his march to the West, and assisted by his promises to bring Roger de Mortimer into the King's peace. On 20 August he was pardoned for anything done against the two Despenscrs between 1 March and 19 August. He took part in the siege of Leeds Castle, Kent, and in November was forbidden to attend the meeting of the "Good Peers" at Doncaster. In March 1321/2 he was one of the Council who advised the King that the Earl of Lancaster was a traitor, and on 11 March was appointed with Edmund, Earl of Kent, to arrest him. He marched with the King to Lichfield and on 29 March was present when Lancaster was condemned at Pontefract. In February 1322/3 he was going to the marches of Scotland on the King's service. In 1324 he was summoned by writ dated 4 August to be ready to serve in Aquitaine, and by writ dated 21 December to serve in Gascony. On 1 April 1325 he was appointed Captain and Leader of the expedition. On 10 May 1326 he was appointed Captain of arrays in the north. On 21 October he was on his way to join the King, but later was one of the envoys sent by the Council to Kenilworth to arrange for Prince Edward to succeed his father. On 26 January 1326/7 he was present at the Coronation of King Edward III. On 24 February he was going abroad with his wife, and on 23 April 1327 was going to the marches of Scotland on the King's service. At Martinmas 1328 he was employed in the King's service, and in March and September 1329 was rewarded for his stay with the King and good service. In 1332 Edward Balliol, King of Scotland, granted him the comitatus of Strathearn, after which he styled himself EARL OF SURREY AND STRATHEARN. On 4 March 1332/3 he was associated with Geoffrey le Scrope and the justices of the King's Bench to hear complaints. On 30 March 1333 he was summoned to be at Newcastle-on-Tyne with his men. On 5 June 1334 he was present when Edward Balliol did homage for Scotland, and on 12 July 1335 marched with him into Scotland. On 4 June 1336 he was ordered to cause the castle of Lewes to be securely guarded. In 1337 he was in a Commission to arrest suspected persons, and on 21 August was appointed with others to lay before the men of Surrey the decisions of the coming Council of Westminster. In July 1338 the King sailed for Flanders, leaving his son Edward, Duke of Cornwall, and the Earl of Surrey principal guardians of the realm. In the latter part of the year the Earl was overseer of array in Hants, Surrey, and other southern counties. In January 1338/9 he was, with others, appointed custodian of the maritime land in Hants, and in April 1339 in Sussex. In June he was in a Commission of array for Surrey and Sussex. In July 1339 he was sheriff of Surrey and Sussex. In April 1340 he successfully petitioned the King to remove his hand from the Priory of Lewes, on the ground that it was not an alien priory but founded by his ancestors. In November 1342 he was directed to furnish men-at-arms and archers for the King in Brittany, and was summoned to attend a conference at Westminster. In 1344 a Saracen physician is said to have visited him at Bromfield and to have discovered a vast treasure in a cave. On 1 July 1345 he was appointed a member of a commission to assist Lionel the King's son as Keeper of the realm and King's Lieutenant in the King's absence; and on 11 July he was summoned to come before the Council. He married, 25 May 1306, Joan, daughter of Henry, COUNT OF BAR, by Eleanor, daughter of EDWARD I. He died s.p.m., 29 June 1347. Joan died 31 August 1361 and was buried abroad. [k] [Complete Peerage XII/1:508-11, (transcribed by Dave Utzinger)]
[k] The Earl, who had formed an association with Maud de Nerford, wife of S. de Diriba, made many attempts to obtain a dissolution of his marriage, first on the ground of consanguinity, later on the ground that he had previously been contracted to Maud, and thirdly that before his marriage he had had carnal knowledge of Mary, sister of Eleanor, Joan's mother. He actually produced a Papal bull declaring the marriage to be invalid, but the English bishops ignored it; and in 1344 and 1345 the Vatican directed that he should be warned and compelled to treat with marital affection his wife, whom he married by dispensation of Clement V and issued a declaration of the validity of the marriage, absolving him in respect of his offence with his wife's aunt. Watson's attempt, in "The House of Warren", vol ii, pp. 75-82, to prove that the Warrens of Poynton, Cheshire, were legitimately descended from an Earl of Surrey, was disposed of by Ormerod, "Hist. Cheshire". Edward, the founder of the Poynton Warrens was a bastard son of the last Warrenne Earl of Surrey by Maud de Nerford, as is established by the fact that Maud's inheritance in Skeyton, Norfolk, remained in the family of the Warrens of Poynton for some generations. Edward is mentioned in the Earl's will. After Maud's death, the Earl bestowed his affections on Isabel de Holand.
=== John de Warenne, 8th and last Earl of Su ===
John de Warenne, 8th and last Earl of Surrey of this family, said to have been b. 30 June 1286, d.s.p.m. legit. 29 June 1347. [Ancestral Roots]
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EARLDOM OF SURREY (VIII)
JOHN (DE WARENNE), EARL OF SURREY, grandson and heir, being son of William DE WARENNE and Joan his wife; is said to have been born 30 June 1286. On 7 April 1306 he was granted seisin of the lands of which his grandfather was seised in demesne as of fee, although still a minor. On 25 May he married the King's granddaughter, having been knighted with Prince Edward on 22 May. In July 1307 he had not yet done homage; but he was summoned to Parliament by writ dated 26 August and constantly thereafter. On 2 December 1307 he with his party opposed Piers de Gavaston and his party at a tournament at Wallingford. In January 1307/8 he was going with the King to France and by writ dated 18 January 1307/8 he was summoned to attend the Coronation; and in June to perform service in person against the Scots, and frequently thereafter. In June 1309 he was ordered not to tourney or seek adventures in England. On 11 May 1310 he was present at the delivery of the Great Seal to the King, and in June had grants of manors and the castle of High Peak at farm; and in August was with the King to Scotland. In February 1310/1 with the Earl of Gloucester he rode, through the great forest of Selkirk, and received the foresters into the King's peace, and later opposed the proposed ordinances for the government of the realm. On 10 May 1312 Piers de Gavaston fled to Scarborough Castle, where he was besieged by the Earls of Surrey and Pembroke; and, although on 17 May the Earl was ordered to abandon the siege, Piers was compelled to surrender on 19 May on a formal promise that his life should be spared. When the Earl of Warwick seized and beheaded Piers in defiance of their pledge, the Earls joined the King. On 17 January 1312/3 he was forbidden to attend a tournament at Newmarket, and on 16 September at Brackley. In May the Bishop of Norwich was proposing to publish a sentence against him, but was requested by the King, who was abroad, to defer the matter until his return because of the Earl's responsibilities during the King's absence. In 1314 he refused to serve in the Bannockburn campaign. On 3 September 1314 he was ordered not to impede the attendance of the Archbishop of Canterbury at the Parliament to be held at York. In 1317 he was induced by the barons to take a large force to attack the Earl of Lancaster; his courage failed, but on 15 May he carried off the countess. On 3 November Lancaster had attacked his castles; but in Nov. 1318 their differences were conditionally composed. In July 1319 Surrey was summoned to a muster at Newcastle, and on 29 August entered Scotland with the King. During 1321 he joined the King in his march to the West, and assisted by his promises to bring Roger de Mortimer into the King's peace. On 20 August he was pardoned for anything done against the two Despenscrs between 1 March and 19 August. He took part in the siege of Leeds Castle, Kent, and in November was forbidden to attend the meeting of the "Good Peers" at Doncaster. In March 1321/2 he was one of the Council who advised the King that the Earl of Lancaster was a traitor, and on 11 March was appointed with Edmund, Earl of Kent, to arrest him. He marched with the King to Lichfield and on 29 March was present when Lancaster was condemned at Pontefract. In February 1322/3 he was going to the marches of Scotland on the King's service. In 1324 he was summoned by writ dated 4 August to be ready to serve in Aquitaine, and by writ dated 21 December to serve in Gascony. On 1 April 1325 he was appointed Captain and Leader of the expedition. On 10 May 1326 he was appointed Captain of arrays in the north. On 21 October he was on his way to join the King, but later was one of the envoys sent by the Council to Kenilworth to arrange for Prince Edward to succeed his father. On 26 January 1326/7 he was present at the Coronation of King Edward III. On 24 February he was going abroad with his wife, and on 23 April 1327 was going to the marches of Scotland on the King's service. At Martinmas 1328 he was employed in the King's service, and in March and September 1329 was rewarded for his stay with the King and good service. In 1332 Edward Balliol, King of Scotland, granted him the comitatus of Strathearn, after which he styled himself EARL OF SURREY AND STRATHEARN. On 4 March 1332/3 he was associated with Geoffrey le Scrope and the justices of the King's Bench to hear complaints. On 30 March 1333 he was summoned to be at Newcastle-on-Tyne with his men. On 5 June 1334 he was present when Edward Balliol did homage for Scotland, and on 12 July 1335 marched with him into Scotland. On 4 June 1336 he was ordered to cause the castle of Lewes to be securely guarded. In 1337 he was in a Commission to arrest suspected persons, and on 21 August was appointed with others to lay before the men of Surrey the decisions of the coming Coun
=== THE PLANTAGENET ANCESTRY (GS NUMBER Q940 ===
THE PLANTAGENET ANCESTRY (GS NUMBER Q940 D2T) P.97; SORLEY'S PEDIGREES (GS NUMBER Q929.242 SO68) P.27, 48; ANCESTRAL FILE, LDS GENEALOGICAL SOCIETY;
=== !Weis. 231-30. John de Warenne was the ===
!Weis. 231-30. John de Warenne was the eighth and last Earl of Surrey of this family. He died without legitimate issue.
=== Sir Edward Warren married Maud, daughte ===
Sir Edward Warren married Maud, daughter of Sir Richard de Skegton, called Maud de Nerford, living 20th of Edward II, 1327. This Richard de Skegton had issue Sir Ralph, Alice, surnamed of Hauteyn, and Maud, surnamed of Nerford, which Maud had a moiety of the lordships of Boton and Skegton, Co. Norfolk, by inheritance from her brother, and the other by settlement from her sister, 20th of Edward II, with successive remainders to her sons Ralph and Edward and their heirs male. (There has been much discussion about the connections of these Warrens of Poynton, in Cheshire from the Earls of Warren and Surrey, but according to every authority they were descended either legitimately or otherwise, but authorities differ as to the precise mode of descent. But in the Poynton Pedigree drawn by Flower and Glover--King of Arms for College of Heraldry--in 1580 the above seems unquestionably the right one. You have descended in several different ways from the Warrens, but never through Reginald No. 7, younger son of William, 2nd Earl. E. E. W.) They had Ralph, Sir William, Edward and John, all of which died without issue, except Sir Edward Warren. Source: Kin of Mellcene Thurman Smith - Rixford's "Families Descended From All Royal Families of Europe, pp. 139-142. - American Historical Society Enc. of Biog., Vol. 17, pp. 199-201. - Ormerod's History of the Town and County of Chester, England, Vol. 3, pp. 340-343; Vol. 3, p. 388. - Bulkeley Genealogy. By Donald Lines Jacobus, p. 4/5.
=== !John de Warenne, 8th and last Earl of S ===
!John de Warenne, 8th and last Earl of Surrey, b. 30 June 1286; died without legitimate issue. ["The Magna Charta Sureities 1215" by Weis, line 122-5.]
=== Acceded: 1304. Also Earl of Strathearn ===
Acceded: 1304. Also Earl of Strathearn. No issue by marria ge. All children illegitimate by two concubines Maud & Isab ella. Title & estate passed to Edmund Fitzalan, his brothe r in law. 8th Earl of Surrey.
=== !Some Colonial Dames of Royal Descent Pa ===
!Some Colonial Dames of Royal Descent Page 9; 131; 155; 181 Plantagenet Ancestry of Seventeenth-Century Colonists. The Descent from the Later Plantagenet Kings of England, Henry III, Edward I, Edward II, and Edward III, of Emigrants from England and Wales to the North American Colonies before 1701 by David Faris First Edition
=== Source: A. Roots. Roots: John de Warenne ===
Source: A. Roots. Roots: John de Warenne, 8th and last Earl of Surrey of this family.Said to have been born 30 June 1286; d.s.p.m. without legitimate issue. Had anatural son, Sir Edward de Warenne, Knight, by Maud de Nerford.
=== Earl of Strathearn, Earl of Sussex, The ===
Earl of Strathearn, Earl of Sussex, The Complete Peerage vol.XIIp1,p.516-7. The Complete Peerage vol.XIIpI,p.508-511.
Preferred Parents:
Father: William de Warenne, b. 9 FEB 1256 in Warren, Sussex, England d. 15 DEC 1286 in Croydon, Surrey, England
Mother: Joan de Vere, b. ABT 1255 in Oxfordshire, England d. 21 NOV 1293 in Lewes St Anne, Lewes, Sussex, England
Family 1: Joan de Bar Countess of Surrey, b. 1295 in Bar-le-Duc, Meuse, Argonne/Lorraine, France d. 31 AUG 1361 in France
- m. 25 MAY 1306 in Palace of Westminster, Westminster, Middlesex, England
- m. in , Surrey County, England
Family 2: Lady Maud de Nerford, b. 1285 in Skeyton, Norfolk, England d. 1345 in Poynton, Cheshire, England
- Edward de Warenne, b. ABT 1315 in Bromfield, Shropshire, England, United Kingdom d. BEF 20 OCT 1349 in Poynton, Cheshire, England
Sources:
- Title: John De Warenne, "Find A Grave Index"
Author: "Find A Grave Index," database, FamilySearch (https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QVKJ-TJ3W : 30 May 2020), John De Warenne, ; Burial, , ; citing record ID , Find a Grave, http://www.findagrave.com.
Publication: Name: https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QVKJ-TJ3W;
- Title: Who Came to America Before 1700 (7th edition, 1992), Weis, Frederick Lewis, (7th edition. Baltimore: Genealogical Publishing Company, c1992)
Author: FHL book 974 D2w 1992. p. 192 line 231:33.
Page: see source notes
- Title: Carthew, G.A. (1877). The Hundred of Launditch and Deanery of Brisley. Miller and Leavens. Google Books
Publication: Name: https://books.google.com/books?id=inFEAQAAMAAJ&dq=Richard%20de%20Skeyton&pg=PA246#v=onepage&q&f=true;
- Title: Wikipedia-John de Warenne, 7th Earl of Surrey
Publication: Name: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_de_Warenne,_7th_Earl_of_Surrey;
- Title: Archbishop William Zouche of York's Registers
Author: The Borthwick Institute at the University of York, England
Publication: Name: https://archbishopsregisters.york.ac.uk/searches/show?all_sterms=adam+de+thornton&any_sterms=&archival_repository=all&end_date=&entry_id=qv33s970p&exact_sterms=&folio_id=3484zj71v&folio_title=Register+10+f.223+%28recto%29+entry+3&none_sterms=&page=3&rows_per_page=10&search_mode=advanced&search_term=adam+de+thornton++&start_date=;
Note: Lists of wills and probates
Page: Entry 1 on page 316v is John de Warenne's will and probate. In it he names children William, Edward, Joan, Katherine, and Isabelle,
- Title: John de Warenne Geni
Publication: Name: https://www.geni.com/people/John-de-Warenne-7th-Earl-of-Surrey-Sussex/6000000002475161686;
- Title: Pedigree Charts in "The Genealogie or Pedegree" by Sir William Segar, Garter
Author: Book: Coles Of Devon, 1867 (25.html) by James Edwin-Cole Source 7:www Genealogy or pedegree of the .... Sir William Cole... written in 1630 by Segar, William, Sir, -1633
Publication: Name: http://ephotocaption.com/a/25/1391150.pdf;
Note: There are 33 pages of Charts of the Cole Family and the collateral lines drawn from the original Cole Pedigree dated 1585. This is copied from the original Roll, in the possession of the Right Honourable the Earl of Enniskillen.
This information was compiled by Sir William Segar, Garter in 1630, referencing the family of Thomas Cole who compiled the Escheats. William Segar, Garter was the Principall King of Armes. Wikipedia: Sir William Segar (c. 1554–1633) was a portrait painter and officer of arms to the court of Elizabeth I of England; he became Garter King of Arms under James I. He had the responsibility of granting coats of arms to noble families.
THE PEDIGREE AS IT RELATES TO THE BODRUGAN FAMILY CONTAINS ERRORS. Firstly, it incorrectly shows that Henry Bodrugan the son of Otto, and his wife Isabelle Whalesborough, had 3 sons: William, Otto & Nicholas. This is wrong. the 3 sons were in fact his brothers. Henry died, aged 20, leaving no issue, his next heir being his brother William. This is evident from Henry's IPM. Secondly, the pedigree conflates William the bastard son of Otto Bodrugan with William Bodrugan the son of Ralph Treneweth. This is an unreliable source in so far at it relates to the Bodrugan family.
- Title: Royal Genealogies (Volume II)
Author: James Anderson, D.D., Royal Genealogies (Volume II), Table 491, Page 742 (right center).
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