Robert Erskine

• Preferred Name: Robert Erskine^[1]
  
• Gender: M
  
• FSID: LJVQ-WNM
  
• Birth: 1 APR 1310 in Erskine, Renfrewshire, Scotland at LATI: N5.9094 LONG: E4.4629 with note: Restoring previously listed birthplace before merge.
  
• Burial: 1385 in Scotland
  
• Death: 1385 in Erskine, Renfrewshire, Scotland at LATI: N5.9094 LONG: E4.4629 with note: GEDCOM data
  
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• Residence: in Of-That-Ilk, England
  
• Notes:

  === Life Sketch ===
  Sir Robert Erskine of that Ilk; supported David II against the Balliol faction; High Chamberlain of Scotland 1350-57 and 1363-64, Constable of Stirling Castle, Ambassador to England; had a royal charter, 1368, granting Alloa to himself and his 2nd wife in exchange for Strathgartney, subsequently a Menteith possession; married Beatrix, daughter of Sir Alexander de Lindsay and widow of Sir Archibald Douglas. [Burke's Peerage]
  
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  Sir Robert Erskine of Erskine, d. 1385, High Chamberlain of Scotland. He purchased the lands of Dun in 1348. [Magna Charta Sureties]
  
  [Isiaha Lee.ged]
  
  Sir Robert De Erskine, knight, his eldest son, made an illustrious figure in his time, and for his patriotic servies, was, by David the Second, appointed constable, keeper, and captain of Sterling castle. He was one of the ambassadors to England, to treat for the ransom of that monarch, after his capture in the battle of Durham in 1346. In 1350 he was appointed by David, while still a prisoner, great chamberlain of Scotland, and in 1357 he was one of those who accomplished his sovereign's deliverance, on which occasion, his eldest son, Thomas, was one of the hostages for the payment of the king's ransom. On his restoration, David, in addition to his former high ovvice of chamberlain, appointed Sir Robert justiciary north of the Forth, and constable and keeper of the casltes of Edinburgh and Dumbarton. In 1358 he was ambassador to France, and between 1360 and 1366 he was five times ambassador to England. In 1367 he was warden of the marches, and heritable sheriff of Stirlingshire. In 1371 he was one of the great barons who ratified the succession to the crown of Robert the Second, grandson, by his daughter Marjory, of Robert the Bruce, and the first of the Stuart family. To his other properties he added that of Allon, which the king bestowed on him in exchange for the hunting district of Struthartney, in the Highlands. He died in 1385.
  [The Scottish Nation II:144]
  
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  Sir Robert Erskine of that Ilk; supported David II against the Balliol faction; High Chamberlain of Scotland 1350-57 and 1363-64, Constable of Stirling Castle, Ambassador to England; had a royal charter, 1368, granting Alloa to himself and his 2nd wife in exchange for Strathgartney, subsequently a Menteith possession; married Beatrix, daughter of Sir Alexander De Lindsay and widow of Sir Archibald Douglas. [Burke's Peerage]
  
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  Sir Robert Erskine of Erskine, d. 1385, High Chamberlain of Scotland. He purchased the lands of Dun in 1348.
  [Magna Charta Sureties]
  
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  Sir Robert Erskine of that Ilk, who is next on record, was one of the most prominent members of his family, held a high position in public affairs, and added largely to the family possessions. He does not appear on record until about 1343, when he is a witness to a charter by Sir John Maxwell of Pencaitland to the monks of Dryburgh. He had then attained the honour of knighthood. After the battle of Neville's Cross in 1346 he appears to have acted as High Chamberlain of Scotland, though he is not definitely so named until 1350. He held the office continuously until December 1364. He was very active in promoting the release of King David II, and his son and heir was one of the hostages for the King in 1354. Later, in 1357, he was one of the Scottish Plenipotentiaries sent to treat with England as the King's ransom, and he also ratified the final treaty for his release, his son again being a hostage. Two years later he applied to the Papal See for a dispensation and release from a vow he had made to bear arms against the Saracens in the Holy Land, and to visit Mount Sinai (St Catherine's convent), pleading that on account of the King's business and the frequent wars he was unable to go. The reply, on 11 August 1359, was that if a date for his going was fixed, it might be postponed for a year. But there is no evidence that he ever left Scotland on such an errand, though he was employed on not a few embassies, chiefly to England, but also to the French and Papal Courts. On one such occasion, when in England in 1363, he received the gift of a gold or gilt cup valued at ÂÐ9, 18s, 6d. He was again a special ambassador there in 1369.
  
  He received various grants of estates. From Robert, High Steward of Scotland, he had a charter of lands in the holding of Erskine, not dated, but confirmed by King David II on the last day of February 1351-52. In 1358 he had a charter from Thomas, Earl Of Mar, of the lands of Garloch. In 1359 King David restored to Sir John Menteith the barony of Strathgartney, and Sir John must have granted it to Sir Robert, now his brother-in-law, but the King, about 1366, transferred it to John Logie, the son of his second Queen, Margaret Drummond or Logie. In 1368 Sir Robert received a special charter conferring on him and his wife the lands of Alloa under peculiar circumstances. In 1367, by an Act of Parliament all Crown lands held or rented by subjects were revoked to the King's hands to augment his revenue and aid in paying off his ransoms. Sir Robert Erskine then held lands called the Park of Clackmannan, the Forest of Clackmannan, the 'Pool' and town of Alloa and others, which fell under the scope of the Act. But on 22 June 1368 King David regranted these lands of Alloa and Galbardstoun, Isle of Clackmannan, on the west side of the Water of Little Dovan, in exchange and recompence for the lands of Strathgartney; and he granted the New Park near Stirling, and the land called Breuhalgh (Brewhaugh), in the Forest of Clackmannan, in exchange for the Old Park near Stirling, adding to the grant, in consideration of Sir Robert's services, the lands of Ferrytoun, the meadow of Clackmannan, and a portion of the royal park on the east side of the water of Little Dovan. These lands, including the 'Pule' or 'Pow,' the port of Alloa, have ever since been in the possession of Sir Robert's descendants.
  
  Sir Robert was an active partisan of the High Steward in his claim to the throne on the death of King David II in February 1370-71, and is said to have materially contributed to a peaceful solution by restraining his stepson William, Earl of Douglas, who pretended also to the vacant throne. But the reasons of this episode or the ground of Douglas's claim have never been stated, and remain still an historical mystery. Sir Robert did homage at the coronation of the new King in 1371, and was also present when, in 1373, the succession to the Crown was secured to the Stewart family. His loyal services were acknowledged, and perhaps stimulated, by an important bond of Robert, Earl Of Fife, with consent of his brother John (afterwards King Robert III), binding the Earl to be a faithful friend to Sir Robert and his family, a bond sworn on the gospels and sealed by both brothers at Perth on 7 February 1372-73. In 1373 also he exchanged for an annualrent of ÂÐ100 yearly the lands of Ednam, of which, with the lands of Nisbet, he had some years before received a charter from King Robert, then Steward of Scotland, but he now resigned Ednam in the King's hands, retaining Nisbet, which remained in the family for some time longer. The ÂÐ100 was made good to him from the customs duties of Aberdeen, while he also received a payment of 500 merks as compensation for giving up the keepership of Stirling Castle. Sir Robert had other lands, notably the barony of Kinnoull, the patronage of the church of which he granted in January 1361-62 to the Abbey of Cambuskenneth. He had also the Malers cast and wast and Kintulach in Perthshire, the latter of which he also bestowed, in September 1361, on the same abbey.
  
  Sir Robert was a frequent attender of Parliament and Council up to 1384, and he died between Witsunday and Martinmas 1385.
  
  Sir Robert Erskine married, first, Beatrice Lindsay, daughter of Andrew Lindsay of Crawford, and widow of Sir Archibald Douglas, for a short time Regent of Scotland, who fell at Halidon Hill on 19 July 1333. It is not certain when the marriage took place, perhaps some time later, as she was apparently still a widow in July 1335, and she died before 1352, in or about which year Sir Robert married, secondly, Christian Menteith or Keith, widow of Sir Edward Keith of Sinton. The circumstances of the marriage are briefly recounted in a dispensation for their marriage dated 6 March 1355. In some private quarrel, then so prevalent in Scotland, Sir Robert had wounded and imprisoned Walter Menteith and his brother, cousins of Christian, while some of their party were slain. To appease the feud thus engendered, a marriage was, with King David's consent, arranged between Sir Robert and Christian, for which they asked a dispensation from Rome, as she and Beatrix Lindsay were related in the fourth degree. The dispensation was applied for in the time of Pope Clement VI, who died (6 December 1352) before issuing it, and they were deceived by the clerk who was intrusted with the application, and who wrote that he had finished his business. The parties taking this to mean the dispensation was obtained, married, and had issue, but discovering their error, they renewed their petition, which was not granted, the marriage being declared valid and the children legitimate. It would thus appear that Sir Robert had issue by his second wife, but they apparently did not survive, as she is usually said to have no issue by him. She survived Sir Robert, and died about 1387.
  [The Scots Peerage V:592-596]
  
  My Heritage record: Robert Erskine-on-the Clyde, Strath-Clyde born c. 1389-1452 in Scotland, United Kingdom.
  Wife: Elizabeth Erskine; parents Thomas Erskine and Janet Keith;sister: Margaret Stuart. Record provided by Patrick Abernathy, Patrick@infowest.com
  
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  Sir Robert Erskine of that Ilk was the son of Sir William Erskine of that Ilk. He married, firstly, Beatrice de Lindsay, daught
  
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  BIO: from Genealogical and Heraldic Dictionary of the Peerage and Baronetage of the ...
  By Bernard Burke, p 737, found at books.google.com...
  
  Family of Erskine
  
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  BIO
  BIO: from Genealogical and Heraldic Dictionary of the Peerage and Baronetage of the ...
  By Bernard Burke, p 737, found at books.google.com...
  
  Family of Erskine
  
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  === High Chamberlain of Scotland; purchased ===
  High Chamberlain of Scotland; purchased the lands of Dun in 1348; d.1385; 2nd husband of Christian Menteith. [Magna Charta Sureties, Line41B, p. 45] BURR LINE Son of Sir William Erskine; m.1 Beatrix de Lindsay.[Jim Weber Son of William Erskine; m. Beatrice Lindsay of Crawford;father of Thomas Erskine. [Alex Nieuwland Son of William Erskine and ??Stewart; m. Beatrix de Lindsay; father of Thomas Erskine who m. JanetKeith. [Diane Sumerlin Name Prefix: Sir. Name Suffix: Knight REFN:HWS43864 Ancestral File Number: B3C9-PJ OBJE:C:\LEGACY\PICTURES\knight.gif
  
  === From Ancestral File (TM), data as of 2 J ===
  From Ancestral File (TM), data as of 2 January 1996.
  
  === High Chamberlain of Scotland,1350-57, an ===
  High Chamberlain of Scotland,1350-57, and 1363-64. Constable of Stirling castle.
  
  === My 15th ===
  Great Grandfather
  
  === Source to show he is father of Thomas Erskine 1346-1404 ===
  https://gw.geneanet.org/natoab?lang=en&n=erskine&oc=0&p=sir+robert
  
  === Sir Robert de Erskine, knight, his eldes ===
  Sir Robert de Erskine, knight, his eldest son, made an illustrious figure in his time, and for his patriotic servies, was, by David the Second, appointed constable, keeper, and captain of Sterling castle. He was one of the ambassadors to England, to treat for the ransom of that monarch, after his capture in the battle of Durham in 1346. In 1350 he was appointed by David, while still a prisoner, great chamberlain of Scotland, and in 1357 he was one of those who accomplished his sovereign's deliverance, on which occasion, his eldest son, Thomas, was one of the hostages for the payment of the king's ransom. On his restoration, David, in addition to his former high ovvice of chamberlain, appointed Sir Robert justiciary north of the Forth, and constable and keeper of the casltes of Edinburgh and Dumbarton. In 1358 he was ambassador to France, and between 1360 and 1366 he was five times ambassador to England. In 1367 he was warden of the marches, and heritable sheriff of Stirlingshire. In 1371 he was one of the great barons who ratified the succession to the crown of Robert the Second, grandson, by his daughter Marjory, of Robert the Bruce, and the first of the Stuart family. To his other properties he added that of Allon, which the king bestowed on him in exchange for the hunting district of Struthartney, in the Highlands. He died in 1385. [The Scottish Nation II:144]__________________________________Sir Robert Erskine of that Ilk; supported David II against the Balliol faction; High Chamberlain of Scotland 1350-57 and 1363-64, Constable of Stirling Castle, Ambassador to England; had a royal charter, 1368, granting Alloa to himself and his 2nd wife in exchange for Strathgartney, subsequently a Menteith possession; married Beatrix, daughter of Sir Alexander de Lindsay and widow of Sir Archibald Douglas. [Burke's Peerage]-------------Sir Robert Erskine of Erskine, d. 1385, High Chamberlain of Scotland. He purchased the lands of Dun in 1348. [Magna Charta Sureties]__________________________________Sir Robert Erskine of that Ilk, who is next on record, was one of the most prominent members of his family, held a high position in public affairs, and added largely to the family possessions. He does not appear on record until about 1343, when he is a witness to a charter by Sir John Maxwell of Pencaitland to the monks of Dryburgh. He had then attained the honour of knighthood. After the battle of Neville's Cross in 1346 he appears to have acted as High Chamberlain of Scotland, though he is not definitely so named until 1350. He held the office continuously until December 1364. He was very active in promoting the release of King David II, and his son and heir was one of the hostages for the King in 1354. Later, in 1357, he was one of the Scottish Plenipotentiaries sent to treat with England as the King's ransom, and he also ratified the final treaty for his release, his son again being a hostage. Two years later he applied to the Papal See for a dispensation and release from a vow he had made to bear arms against the Saracens in the Holy Land, and to visit Mount Sinai (St Catherine's convent), pleading that on account of the King's business and the frequent wars he was unable to go. The reply, on 11 August 1359, was that if a date for his going was fixed, it might be postponed for a year. But there is no evidence that he ever left Scotland on such an errand, though he was employed on not a few embassies, chiefly to England, but also to the French and Papal Courts. On one such occasion, when in England in 1363, he received the gift of a gold or gilt cup valued at £9, 18s, 6d. He was again a special ambassador there in 1369.He received various grants of estates. From Robert, High Steward of Scotland, he had a charter of lands in the holding of Erskine, not dated, but confirmed by King David II on the last day of February 1351-52. In 1358 he had a charter from Thomas, Earl of Mar, of the lands of Garloch. In 1359 King David restored to Sir John Menteith the barony of Strathgartney, and Sir John must have granted it to Sir Robert, now his brother-in-law, but the King, about 1366, transferred it to John Logie, the son of his second Queen, Margaret Drummond or Logie. In 1368 Sir Robert received a special charter conferring on him and his wife the lands of Alloa under peculiar circumstances. In 1367, by an Act of Parliament all Crown lands held or rented by subjects were revoked to the King's hands to augment his revenue and aid in paying off his ransoms. Sir Robert Erskine then held lands called the Park of Clackmannan, the Forest of Clackmannan, the 'Pool' and town of Alloa and others, which fell under the scope of the Act. But on 22 June 1368 King David regranted these lands of Alloa and Galbardstoun, Isle of Clackmannan, on the west side of the Water of Little Dovan, in exchange and recompence for the lands of Strathgartney; and he granted the New Park near Stirling, and the land called Breuhalgh (Brewhaugh), in the Forest of Clackmannan, in exchange for the Old Park near Stirling, adding to the grant, in consideration of Sir Robert's services, the lands of Ferrytoun, the meadow of Clackmannan, and a portion of the royal park on the east side of the water of Little Dovan. These lands, including the 'Pule' or 'Pow,' the port of Alloa, have ever since been in the possession of Sir Robert's descendants.Sir Robert was an active partisan of the High Steward in his claim to the throne on the death of King David II in February 1370-71, and is said to have materially contributed to a peaceful solution by restraining his stepson William, Earl of Douglas, who pretended also to the vacant throne. But the reasons of this episode or the ground of Douglas's claim have never been stated, and remain still an historical mystery. Sir Robert did homage at the coronation of the new King in 1371, and was also present when, in 1373, the succession to the Crown was secured to the Stewart family. His loyal services were acknowledged, and perhaps stimulated, by an important bond of Robert, Earl of Fife, with consent of his brother John (afterwards King Robert III), binding the Earl to be a faithful friend to Sir Robert and his family, a bond sworn on the gospels and sealed by both brothers at Perth on 7 February 1372-73. In 1373 also he exchanged for an annualrent of £100 yearly the lands of Ednam, of which, with the lands of Nisbet, he had some years before received a charter from King Robert, then Steward of Scotland, but he now resigned Ednam in the King's hands, retaining Nisbet, which remained in the family for some time longer. The £100 was made good to him from the customs duties of Aberdeen, while he also received a payment of 500 merks as compensation for giving up the keepership of Stirling Castle. Sir Robert had other lands, notably the barony of Kinnoull, the patronage of the church of which he granted in January 1361-62 to the Abbey of Cambuskenneth. He had also the Malers cast and wast and Kintulach in Perthshire, the latter of which he also bestowed, in September 1361, on the same abbey.Sir Robert was a frequent attender of Parliament and Council up to 1384, and he died between Witsunday and Martinmas 1385.Sir Robert Erskine married, first, Beatrice Lindsay, daughter of Andrew Lindsay of Crawford, and widow of Sir Archibald Douglas, for a short time Regent of Scotland, who fell at Halidon Hill on 19 July 1333. It is not certain when the marriage took place, perhaps some time later, as she was apparently still a widow in July 1335, and she died before 1352, in or about which year Sir Robert married, secondly, Christian Menteith or Keith, widow of Sir Edward Keith of Sinton. The circumstances of the marriage are briefly recounted in a dispensation for their marriage dated 6 March 1355. In some private quarrel, then so prevalent in Scotland, Sir Robert had wounded and imprisoned Walter Menteith and his brother, cousins of Christian, while some of their party were slain. To appease the feud thus engendered, a marriage was, with King David's consent, arranged between Sir Robert and Christian, for which they asked a dispensation from Rome, as she and Beatrix Lindsay were related in the fourth degree. The dispensation was applied for in the time of Pope Clement VI, who died (6 December 1352) before issuing it, and they were deceived by the clerk who was intrusted with the application, and who wrote that he had finished his business. The parties taking this to mean the dispensation was obtained, married, and had issue, but discovering their error, they renewed their petition, which was not granted, the marriage being declared valid and the children legitimate. It would thus appear that Sir Robert had issue by his second wife, but they apparently did not survive, as she is usually said to have no issue by him. She survived Sir Robert, and died about 1387. [The Scots Peerage V:592-596]
  
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  THE LAIRDS OF DUN, by Violet Jacob, published in 1931, John Murray,Albermarle Street, W, London. Page 18-
  
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  === ROBERT ERSKINE, son and heir of Sir Thom ===
  ROBERT ERSKINE, son and heir of Sir Thomas Erskine of that ilk [i.e. Erskine, on the Clyde] (d. between Martinmas 1403 and Whitsunday [18 May] 1404), by Janet,(a) widow of Sir David BARCLAY, of Brechin, and probably daughter and heir of Sir Edward KEITH, of Syntoun; knighted before 20 December 1400; was taken prisoner at the battle of Homildon, 14 September 1402; was one of the hostages for the ransom of King James in 1424, when his revenue was estimated at 1,000 marks, being set at liberty 19 June 1425. He was made a Lord of Parliament as LORD ERSKINE [SCT], in or shortly before 1438. Soon after the death (1435) of Alexander, husband of Isabel, suojure Countess of Mar [SCT] (to which Alexander and his heirs by her that Earldom had been resigned), Lord Erskine was served heir to the said Countess Isabel, and having had seizin 21 November 1438, assumed the title of EARL OF MAR [SCT]. He married, soon after 20 December 1400, Elizabeth, daughter of David (LINDSAY), 1st EARL OF CRAWFORD [SCT], by Elizabeth, daughter of ROBERT II. He died between 7 September 1451 and 6 November 1452. [Complete Peerage V:104]
  
  [a] This Janet Keith, to whom (though she had a daughter by a 1st husband) this Robert Erskine was heir, brought into the Erskine family the right to the ancient Earldom of Mar [SCT], through her mother Christian, daughter of Sir John Menteith, by Elyne, sister of Donald, and daughter of Gratney, Earls of Mar [SCT].
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  ROBERT (ERSKINE), EARL OF MAR [SCT], cousin and heir ex parte materna of Isabel, suo jure COUNTESS OF MAR, being son and heir of Sir Thomas ERSKINE of Alloa and Dun, by his 2nd wife, Janet, succeeded his father between Martinmas 1403 and Whitsuntide 1404- (For particulars before 1438, see ERSKINE.) On the death, 1435, of Alexander, Earl of Mar, Erskine sought to be retoured heir to the Countess Isabel of half the lands, and was so retoured 22 April and 16 October 1438. A writ of saisine issued and he was infeoffed thereunder 21 November 1438. As representative of the elder coheir to the lands the chief messuage, Kildrummy Castle, carrying with it the superiority and dignity of the Earldom, fell to him. He was at that time keeper of Dunbarton Castle. Being thus lawfully in possession of the dignity, Erskine dealt with the property as Earl of Mar, but the Crown did not acknowledge his title to the Earldom, and retained possession of Kildrummy Castle; Erskine died between 7 September 1451 and 6 November 1452, 5 years before the long struggle for possession of his Earldom ended, 5 November 1457, in the defeat of his right. [Complete Peerage VIII:414-5]
  
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  Sir Robert Erskine first appears on record in an indenture, dated 20 December 1400, between David, Earl of Crawford, and Sir Thomas Erskine, to be again referred to, and he then held the rank of knight. He was taken prisoner with his father at the battle of Homildon in 1402, and succeeded to the estates soon after Martinmas 1403, perhaps while he was still in England. But he was in Scotland in 1405, when he received on behalf of his mother the pension payable to her. Between that date and 1415 he more than once passed into England, and he was a hostage for King James I from 1424 to 1427, when he was a hostage for King James I from 1424 to 1427, when he was exchanged for the Earl of Menteith. He was also in 1430 an ambassador from Scotland to the English Court. Other minor references to him during his life are his regular receipt of the £100 pension, paid to his grandfather and his mother and continued to himself, besides filling various posts as keeper of Dumbarton Castle and others. It has been stated that he was made a Lord of Parliament between 1429 and 1430, but no evidence has been found to that effect. All the references to him up to 1436 style him Lord of that Ilk, or Sir Robert of Erskine, Knight. Later, after 1438, he is styled Lord Erskine.
  
  In 1435 he began to prepare for his sturggle with the Crown for the earldom of Mar, a struggle the effects of which have been felt even in recent years. As formerly stated, Alexander Stewart, the husband of Isabella, Countess of Mar, held the earldom until his death on 1 August 1435, when it was seized by the Crown. Sir Robert Erskine claimed, as has been seen, through his mother, and he intended to press his claim. His father in the protest of 1391 had referred to his wife's right to one-half of the earldom, probably holding her as a co-heiress with Isabel Douglas, then Countess of Mar. But Sir Robert's claim was wider, as appears from an agreement he made with Sir Alexander Forbes of that Ilk that the latter should for certain considerations aid Sir Robert and his sons to all their rights of the earldoms of Mar and of Garioch, thus including the whole territory. This was his first step, to gain the friendship of an influential local laird, and his next, King James I having died in the interval, to obtain service as heir of Isabella, Countess of Mar, the last legal possessor. This was done, first, on 22 April 1438 for one half of the earldom, and secondly, on 16 October same year, for the other half. Follwing on this and other formalities, Sir Robert assumed the title and designed himself in various charters Earl of Mar and Lord Erskine, and Earl of Mar and Garioch and Lord Erskine. It must be stated, however, that the Crown only described him as Robert, Lord Erskine. On the other hand, in the 'Exchequer Rolls' his son is, in 1445, styled 'Thomas, Master of Mar,' and according to the Aberdeen burgh records of 28 December 1439 he was made a burgess as Earl of Mar and Lord of Erskine.
  
  The next step in the proceedings was an agreement made in a General Council at Stirling, 10 August 1440, between King James II and his advisers and 'Schir Robert, Lord of Erskyne,' of which the first condition was that the Castle of Kildrummy should be delivered to Lord Erskine, to be kept by him for the King until the latter's majority. It was then to be freely given up by Lord Erskine, who should then come before the Three Estates and show his claim and rights to be judged, and if found necessary, the King's Chancery shall be open that he may pursue his rights. The revenue of half the earldom which Lord Erskine claimed as his own was to remain with him, and to be held as his fee for keeping the castle if it should be adjudged to the King at the end of the period. On receiving possession of Kildrummy, Lord Erskine was to give up Dumbarton. Lord Erskine appears to have kept his part of the agreement, but the Crown did not, and two years later, on 9 August 1442, he complained that the Chancellor (Crichton) had refused to retour him to Garioch or to deliver Kildrummy to his care. It is also said he seized that castle, when the Crown retaliated by taking his castle of Alloa. In any case another agreement was made on 20 June 1448, when Lord Erskine offered to give up Kildrummy between then and the 3 July to those chosen by the Three Estates, and also to account for the rents of half the earldom to the King at his majority, while the Council promised to deliver up Alloa and all warlike stores therein. Lord Erskine, however, as stated below, had already delivered up Kildrummy, but how far the Crown had responded is uncertain. On 4 April 1449 his son Sir Thomas Erskine made a solemn appearance before the King and Estates on behalf of his father. He offered to fulfil all previous agreements, and protested against the fact that the revenues of the earldom had, since the previous Martinmas, been detained by the King's officers contrary to the indentures between the parties. Nothing followed on this protest, and another and more emphatic attempt was made a few months later, on 26 January 1449-50, also before the King in Parliament sitting as a court. Sir Thomas Erskine in his own name and his father's, with all humility, craved justice or remedy to be made to his father by herediatry right, and unjustly detained, as he asserted, by the King. To this Chancellor Crichton replied, by the royal order, that it had been enacted that all lands and lordships of which the late King had died vest and seised should remain with the Crown until the present King's majority, and that his Majesty desired to abide by that Act until then. Meanwhile it was proposed that the rights and evidences under which Lord Erskine claimed the earldom and those in support of the King's claim should be exhibited before the Privy Council, a court now offered in place of the Three Estates. On hearing this reply, Sir Thomas solemnly protested that the course or passing of time and the delay of justice until the King's majority should not tend to the future prejudice of loss of Lord Erskine, his heirs, nor of his own fee and heritage. Here the matter rested for the time, and when the next step is made in March 1452-53 Lord Erskine was dead, though the exact date of his decease cannot be ascertained. He was, however, still alive on 7 September 1451, when as Earl of Mar and Garioch and Lord Erskine he confirmed a charter, granted by John Melville of Harviestoun to Edward Ramsay, of the lands of Westhall. He may have died before 26 August 1452, when King James granted Garioch, called in the charter an earldom, to his Queen, Mary of Gueldres, for her life, and he was certainly dead before 6 November 1452, when his son is designed Thomas, Lord Erskine, in a Crown charter. Lord Erskine is usually said to have married a daughter of Robert Stewart of Lorn and Innermeath, but there is good reason to believe that he married the daughter of David, Earl of Crawford, referred to (her name not being given, but it was probably Elizabeth) in an agreement between that nobleman and Sir Thomas Erskine, dated at Brechin 20 December 1400. By that writ it was arranged that Sir Robert Erskine should marry a daughter of
  
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  === Nickname: 1st Baron Erskine
  Name P ===
  Nickname: 1st Baron Erskine
  Name Prefix: Sir
  Name Suffix: Earl Of Mar
  
  === !#21> Complete Peerage-v5-p104*,-v6-p53, ===
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  === bp 31 Nov 1934 ===
  bp 31 Nov 1934
  
  === Sir Robert Erskine of that Ilk or Sir Ro ===
  Sir Robert Erskine of that Ilk or Sir Robert Erskine of Erskine. He joineed the high-steward and other friends of King David II in opposition to the Baliol party. He was appointed great chamberlain of Scotland 1350 and was one of the commissioners to treat of the release of King David II., 1348, 1351, 1352,1354. At the parliament held at Perth, 17 Jan 1356-7, he was along with the Bishops of St Andrews and Brechin, nominated plenipotentiary to treat with England, not only for the ransom of the King, but also for a truce between the two nations. This was successfully brought about and his son Thomas was one of the hostages granted for the ransom. In 1358 he was appointed ambassador to Chaarles the Dauphin, regent of France and ratified the alliance with France at paris 29 Jun 1359. etc etc
  
  === Sir John Erskine, Knight, appears as a w ===
  Sir John Erskine, Knight, appears as a witness to a charter by Adam, called Carpenter, granting Ingleston to the Abbey of Paisley, dated about 1260, and also to two writs by Walter Stewart, Earl of Menteith, dated respectively 19 January 1262-63 and 14 May 1271. Mr George Erskine, Baron Bailie of Alloa, who, in 1709, wrote a short account of the family, refers to a charter which he believed to exist, but which he had not seen, granted to Sir John for services at the battle of Largs. Some time between 1300 and 1309, James, the High Steward, granted to John Yrskyn, son of John, son and heir of Sir John, certain lands in the holding of Largs, which shows that Sir John was then alive. He is therefore probably the Johan de Irskyn who appears among other landowners of Renfrewshire in the Homage Roll of 1296. A seal believed to be his is still attached, and is thus described: 'A stag's head cabossed; between the antlers a small four-footed animal passant to sinister. Legend, 'S Johannis de Erkyrn (?)' His wife has not been discovered. [The Scots Peerage V:590-591]
  
  === Ancestral File Number: 9FC1-Q8 ===
  Ancestral File Number: 9FC1-Q8
  
  === Marriage details from Scot’s Peerage (1908) ===
  ERSKINE, Robert of that Ilk, High Chamberlain of Scotland, Sir
  
  Born: About 1315
  Marriage (1): LINDSAY, Beatrice after July 1335
  Marriage (2): MENTEITH, Christian heiress of the Earldom of Mar after 1351
  Died: 1385
  
  Robert married Beatrice LINDSAY, daughter of Sir Alexander DE LINDSAY and Daughter STEWART, after July 1335. (Beatrice LINDSAY was born about 1305 and died by 1352).
  
  Marriage Notes:
  
  "Sir Robert Erskine married, first, Beatrice Lindsay, daughter of Alexander Lindsay of Crawford, and widow of Sir Archibald Douglas, for a short time Regent of Scotland, who fell at Halidon Hill on 19 July 1333. It is not certain when the marriage took place, perhaps some time later, as she was apparently still a widow in July 1335, and she died before 1352"
  
  from Scots Peerage (vol 5)
  
  Robert next married Christian MENTEITH heiress of the Earldom of Mar, daughter of Sir John MENTEITH Lord of Arran, Skipnish, Knapdale, and Strathgartney and Elyne or Ellen of Mar, after 1351. (Christian MENTEITH heiress of the Earldom of Mar was born about 1324 and died about 1387.)
  
  Marriage Notes:
  
  "She (Ellen of Mar) also had a daughter Christian, married, first, to Sir Edward Keith of Synton, and secondly, some time after his death in 1350, to Sir Robert Erskine of that Ilk, with issue. The latter marriage is proved by more than one writ, the most important being a charter quoted by Sir Robert Douglas, though not now known to exist, by which Sir John Menteith, Lord of Arran, granted to his daughter Christian Menteith and Sir Edward Keith her husband, the lands of Pirchock and others. The other writ is a charter by Thomas, Earl of Mar, nephew of Ellen, where he styles Christian Keith wife of Sir Robert Erskine his cousin." (page 580)
  
  "... she (Beatrice Lindsay) died before 1352, in or about which year Sir Robert married, secondly, Christian Menteith or Keith, widow of Sir Edward Keith of Sinton. The circumstances of the marriage are briefly recounted in a dispensation for their marriage dated 6 March 1355. In some private quarrel, then so prevalent in Scotland, Sir Robert had wounded and imprisoned Walter Menteith and his brother, cousins of Christian, while some of their party were slain. To appease the feud thus engendered, a marriage was, with King David's consent, arranged between Sir Robert and Christian, for which they asked a dispensation from Rome, as she and Beatrix Lindsay were related in the fourth degree. The dispensation was applied for in the time of Pope Clement vi., who died (6 December 1352) before issuing it, and they were deceived by the clerk who was intrusted with the application, and who wrote that he had finished his business. The parties taking this to mean the dispensation was obtained, married, and had issue, but discovering their error, they renewed their petition, which was now granted, the marriage being declared valid and the children legitimate." <(page 595)
  
  from Scots Peerage (vol 5)
  
  === Source: http://www.doig.net/grahamk.htm ===
  Source: http://www.doig.net/grahamk.html
  Robert, Lord Erskine and Earl of Mar and Elizabeth Lindsay (died after 1478)
  
  IIGI
  
  Birth: About 1370 Of, Erskine, Renfrew, Scotland
  
  Christening:
  Death:
  Burial:
  
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  Baptism: 22 FEB 1941
  
  Endowment: 08 FEB 1946 SLAKE
  
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  Parents:
  Father: Sir Thomas Erskine Family
  Mother: Janet Keith
  
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  ===
  Sir John ERSKINE
  (1249-After 1296)
  
  Fam ===
  Sir John ERSKINE(1249-After 1296)Family LinksSpouses/Children:1. Beatrix DE LINDSAYMary ERSKINESir Thomas ERSKINESir Nicholas ERSKINEJean ERSKINE+2. Christian MENTEITHSir Robert ERSKINE Chamberlain of Scotland 580,4311,9878,9887Born: Abt 1310, Erskine, Renfrewshire, ScotlandMarried (1): After 1333, 2nd husband 1st wife 580,4311,9878Married (2): 1352, 2nd husband 2nd wife (their daughter & son werealso married) 9878,9881Died: 1385 9878,9881General Notes:Sir Robert Erskine of that Ilk; supported David II against the Balliolfaction; High Chamberlain of Scotland 1350-57 and 1363-64, Constableof Stirling Castle, Ambassador to England; had a royal charter, 1368,granting Alloa to himself and his 2nd wife in exchange forStrathgartney, subsequently a Menteith possession; married Beatrix,daughter of Sir Alexander de Lindsay and widow of Sir ArchibaldDouglas. [Burke's Peerage]-------------Sir Robert Erskine of Erskine, d. 1385, High Chamberlain of Scotland.He purchased the lands of Dun in 1348. [Magna Charta Sureties]Marriage Information:Robert married Beatrix DE LINDSAY, daughter of Alexander DE LINDSAYM.P., Lord of Crawford and Alice STEWART, after 1333 in 2nd husband1st wife (Beatrix DE LINDSAY was born about 1302 in Crawford,Clydesdale, Lanarkshire, Scotland and died before 1352 in Erskine,Renfrewshire, Scotland.)Marriage Information:Robert also married Christian MENTEITH in 1352 in 2nd husband 2nd wife(their daughter & son were also married) . (Christian MENTEITH wasborn about 1325 in Isle of Arran, Ayrshire, Scotland and died about1387 in Synton, Selkirkshire, Scotland 9881.)------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------Sir Robert Erskine of that Ilk, 1st Lord ErskineSir Robert Erskine of that Ilk, 1st Lord Erskine succeeded to thetitle of 12th Earl of Mar before June 1436. He was created 1st LordErskine.(1)The surname originates from the Barony of Erskine in Renfrewshire,south of the River Clyde, which was held by Henry de Erskine in thereign of Alexander II. Johan de Irskyne of Lanark rendered homage toEdward I of England in 1296 .Despite this, the Erskines resolutelysupported the rise of Robert the Bruce, and Bruce's son, David II.appointed Sir Robert de Erskine Keeper of Stirling Castle. He laterbecame Lord Great Chamberlain of Scotland and Justiciar of theNorth.(3)The Erskines were originally a Lowland family who inherited throughmarriage the Earldom of Mar, the most ancient of Celtic earldoms, andthus became allied to the principal Highland families. Their namecomes from the fertile lands of Erskine in Ren- frewshire, on thesouth banks of the River Clyde, and derives from the Brythonnic Celtic(Welsh) 'y ysigyn', the green slope, which perfectly describes thetopography.Although the barony of Erskine does not appear among the lands grantedby Malcolm IV, to Walter, High Steward of Scotland, it is likely theErskines were of native stock and became vassals of the Stewarts. Thefirst on record is Henry de Ereskyn whose signature appears as witnessto a charter of Paisley Abbey in 1226 A.D., in the reign of AlexanderII. His castle stood where the new Erskine bridge scans the Clyde.(2)Sir Robert's eldest son, Thomas Erskine, married Janet Keith, daughterof Lady Eline de Mar, and their son, another Robert, became heir toone of the oldest Celtic earldoms and Chief of the ancient “Tribe ofthe Land of Mar.” This Sir Robert was made Lord Erskine in 1467.Alexander, 3rd Lord Erskine built Alloa Tower in 1497, and Robert, 4thLord Erskine was killed at the Battle of Flodden in 1513.The titular lineage, however, became a trifle complicated during thereign of Mary Queen of Scots when a second earldom of Mar wasconferred on John, 6th Lord Erskine, thus making him both 18th and 1stEarl of Mar. .(3)Sir Robert de Erskine of that Ilk, the worthy, wyse and lele', wasHigh Chamberlain of Scotland in the late14th century.He supported the cause of David II against the resurgent Balliolfaction, and later, in 1357, helped secure the king's release fromcaptivity in England. He was rewarded with the important office ofConstable of Stirling Castle and in 1368 was granted the lands ofAlloa in Clackmannanshire where he built a fortified house. All ofthese are still held by his descendants today. He was also Ambassadorto France, England and the Papal See. He supported the claim of theHigh Stewards to the Scottish monarchy and assisted Robert II ascendthe throne in 1371. As an old ballad says, "Robert Stewart was madeKing, Specially throw the helping, Of gude Schir Robert Erskine" .(2)Sir Robert purchased the lands of Dun near Montrose in north-eastScotland in 1358. These were later granted to his younger grandson,John, who founded the line of Erskines of Dun.These were the most prominent of the various cadet families until thelast in the male line died in 1812. Their House of Dun is now a hoteland their town house in Montrose now a local newspaper office. Thelocal church-yards hereabouts are full of Erskine stones. The otherprincipal cadet line was the Erskines of Pittodrie in Aberdeenshire.(2) Sir Thomas Erskine of that Ilk was the son of Sir Robert Erskineof that Ilk and Beatrice Lindsay. He married Janet Keith, daughter ofSir Edward Keith and Christian Stewart, circa 13 April 1370. He diedin 1403.(1)In 1438, Sir Robert Erskine of that Ilk was created Lord Erskine, andon the death of Alexander Stewart he became 13th Earl of Mar by 'rightblood and line', being the nearest blood relation to Isabella of Mar.He took occupation of Kildrummy Castle in Aberdeenshire by force butRobert retaliated by confiscating the Erskine lands in Alloa and SirRobert was forced to relinquish the Mar estates Aberdeenshire.The king wrongly insisted the Earldom of Mar belonged the Crownbecause of its Stewart connection and in 1457 reserved the right tothe title. The Earldom of Mar was then firstly and falsely bestowed onPrince John, son of James II, then 1482 on Prince Alexander. In 1486was given to Prince John, son of Jame III, and finally in 1562 QueenMary gave it to her natural brother James Stewart. All of these titleholders were eventually declared void. (2)The lands of Erskine in Renfrewshire are now occupied by the ErskineHospital for War Disabled. This voluntary funded hospital cares fordisabled war veterans ranging from the First World War to theFalklands Conflict.Resources(1) ThePeerage.com/A genealogical survey of the peerage of Britain aswell as the royal families of Europ,*http://thepeerage.com/p512.htm#i5117.(2) The Erskin Clanhttp://www.erskinclan.com/history.html.(3) Scots Connection,http://www.scotsconnection.com/clan_crests/Erskine.htmInfo from National Archives.gov.uk
  
  === 1st Baron Erskine; assumed the title of ===
  1st Baron Erskine; assumed the title of Earl of Mar; m. ElizabethLindsay; father of Christian Erskine. [Magna Charta Sureties, p. 50] BURRLINE Cr. 1438 Lord Erskine, 1438 assumed the title Earl of Mar; m.Elizabeth Lindsay; father of Christian who m. Patrick Graham. [MagnaCharta Sureties, Line 43E, p. 54] Kildrummy Castle was seized briefly in1442 by its rightful owner, Sir Robert Erskine. [Kildrummy Castle, p. 10]Son of Thomas Erskine and Joneta/Janet Keith; m. Elizabeth de Lindsay;father of: 1. Thomas who m. Janet Douglas 2. Elizabeth who m. HenryDouglas [Diane Sumerlin m. Janet Douglas; father of: 1. Thomas, 2nd BaronErskine, who m. Janet Douglas 2. Muriella who m. William Keith, 2nd EarlMarischal [Alexander Waugh Name Suffix: Earl of Mar REFN: HWS42594Ancestral File Number: B3C9-L1 OBJE: C:\LEGACY\PICTURES\C_Comte.gif
  
  === Claimed the title Earl of Mar through hi ===
  Claimed the title Earl of Mar through his mother but the king unjustly kept him out of possession. (Scottish Nation). The title rem,ained unassumed in the family until it was acknowledged in John, 5th Lord Erskine.
  
  === First Lord Erskine ===
  First Lord Erskine

• m. BEF 1342

1. Thomas Erskine - 13th Earl of Mar, b. 1346 in Erskine, Renfrewshire, Scotland     d. APR 1403 in Hill, Gloucestershire, England

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