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William de Moravia 5th Earl of Sutherland
- Preferred Name: William de Moravia 5th Earl of Sutherland[1] [2] [3] [4] [5] [6]
- Alternate Name: Sutherland
- Alternate Name: William de Moravia Earl of Sutherland V
- Gender: M
- Burial: FEB 1370 in Dunfermline Abbey, Dunfermline, Fife, Scotland, United Kingdom at LATI: N6.0698 LONG: E3.4636 with note: Merge information, do not know source
- http://familysearch.org/v1/TitleOfNobility: 5th Earl Of Sutherland
- FSID: 99VH-PDY
- Death: 27 FEB 1370 in Dunfermline Abbey, Dunfermline, Fife, Scotland, United Kingdom at LATI: N6.0698 LONG: E3.4636 with note: Merge information
- Birth: ABT 1310 in Golspie, Sutherland, Scotland at LATI: N7.973 LONG: E3.9771 with note: GEDCOM data
- Death: 27 FEB 1370 in Sutherland, Scotland at LATI: N8.2835 LONG: E4.6033
- Notes:
=== Life Sketch ===
http://www.thepeerage.com/p10791.htm#i107906
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_de_Moravia,_5th_Earl_of_Sutherland
William de Moravia (also known as William Sutherland) was the 5th Earl of Sutherland and chief of the Clan Sutherland, a Scottish clan of the Scottish Highlands. William, 5th Earl of Sutherland was a loyal supporter of David II of Scotland in the wars against England.
He was the oldest son and heir of Kenneth de Moravia, 4th Earl of Sutherland and Mary (or Marjorie) of Mar. He succeeded his father in 1333. Hs siblings were Nicolas and Eustachia.
William, Earl of Sutherland married Margaret Bruce, a daughter of King Robert the Bruce (Robert I of Scotland) and his second wife Elizabeth de Burgh. There was a papal dispensation for the marriage issued at the end of 1342. David II of Scotland subsequently conferred upon his brother-in-law the Earl of Sutherland various charters of lands in rapid succession. These included the thanage of Downie in Forfarshire in September 1345, the thanages of Kincardine, with Fettercairn and Aberluthnot, and half of the thanages of Formartine and Kintore in Aberdeenshire. The latter charter included that upon the death of the grantees all the lands were to revert to the Crown, but saving the right for Matilda Bruce, the king's elder sister, the other half of the thanages of Formartine and Kintore, should she survive her sister Margaret.
In 1346, the Earl of Sutherland and his countess received a grant for the important stronghold of Dunnottar Castle in The Mearns. The charter included a licence for the earl to build a fortalice upon it. However, according to William Fraser it is not known if the Earl of Sutherland built a fort on the site and that the building that is there is usually attributed to Sir William Keith, Marischal of Scotland and that the Earl of Sutherland probably departed with Dunnottar Castle in 1358. Also in 1346, the Earl of Sutherland joined the Scottish army that mustered at Perth and invaded England, subsequently being defeated at the Battle of Neville's Cross. An English historian puts him among those killed, but William Fraser states that this is erroneous and that he was actually among those taken prisoner. In June 1351, the Earl of Sutherland is mentioned in a safe conduct for him to attend a conference at Newcastle upon Tyne for the ransom of David II of Scotland. In September of the same year he was one of a party who escorted King David back into Scotland, while his son, John of Sutherland, himself a nephew of the king, was used as a hostage in England for King David to be returned to England. In 1354, John of Sutherland again appears as a hostage for King David. In 1356, the treaty between England and Scotland was broken but renewed in 1357 and the Earl of Sutherland was deputed by the Scottish parliament to complete the negotiations. In October 1357, the Earl of Sutherland and his son John of Sutherland, were exchanged for King David to return to Scotland while they traveled to London and remained in the care of the Chancellor of England. The earl remained in England for ten years and he is recorded in safe conducts at intervals for himself or his servants to pass back and forth from England to Scotland.
Family
He married Margaret Bruce in 1345, a daughter of King Robert the Bruce (Robert I of Scotland) and his second wife Elizabeth de Burgh. There was a papal dispensation for the marriage issued at the end of 1342. With Margaret Bruce, William, Earl of Sutherland only had one son:
- John of Sutherland, who was to succeed to the throne of Scotland by royal descent through his mother Margaret Bruce, but died of plague in London and so Robert II of Scotland, nephew of David II of Scotland became the next king.
William, Earl of Sutherland married his second wife, Joanna daughter of Sir John Menteith in 1346. They had the following children:
- Robert Sutherland, 6th Earl of Sutherland (the surname Sutherland now being fully used by the Earls).
- Kenneth Sutherland, 1st Laird of the Sutherland of Forse family.
- John Beg Sutherland.
Death
According to Sir Robert Gordon, William, Earl of Sutherland died in 1370, and Sir William Fraser says that this appears to be corroborated by the fact that in 1371, Urquhart Castle that had belonged to him was then in the hands of the Crown. However, Fraser also states that the evidence is not conclusive and that he may have survived longer even though he does not appear on record after 27 February 1369–70. It has been speculated that the Earl of Sutherland was killed in 1370 in revenge for the murder of the Mackay chiefs by his brother in the same year. It is confirmed that William, Earl of Sutherland was definitely dead before 1389 when his son, Robert, Earl of Sutherland, succeeded him.
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William Sutherland, Sr., 5th Earl of Sutherland
Gender: Male
Birth: circa 1310
Dunrobin Castle, Golspie, Sutherland, Scotland
Death: February 27, 1370 (55-64)
Dunrobin Castle, Golspie, Sutherland, Scotland
Immediate Family:
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Ancestral File Number: 9G46-V0
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=== !William, 5th Earl of Sutherland. ===
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=== William Sutherland, 5th Earl of Sutherla ===
William Sutherland, 5th Earl of Sutherland; fought at Scottish defeat by English of Neville's Cross 17 Oct 1346; married 1st between 3 Aug and 28 Sep 1345 Margaret (died c1346), sister of David II (who by chater 1345 raised the Earldom of Sutherland to a regality (jurisdiction with quasi-regal powers), though this lapsed on the 5th Earl's death). The 5th Earl married 2nd by 9 Nov 1347 Joanna, widow of (a) Malise, 7th Earl of Strathe(a)rn of the creation deemed to have been effected by c1128, (b) John Campbell, 1st and last Earl of Atholl of the c1320 creation, and (c) Maurice Moray, 1st Earl of Strathearn of the Feb 1343/4 creation, and daughter of Sir John Menteith of Rusky. The 5th Earl died by 19 June 1371. [Burke's Peerage]
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=== WILLIAM (SUTHERLAND), EARL OF SUTHERLAND ===
WILLIAM (SUTHERLAND), EARL OF SUTHERLAND [SCT], elder son and heir, was probably already of age when he succeeded his father, 19 July 1333. He was with his kinsman Sir Andrew Moray, 3rd of Bothwell (then Regent), in company with Duncan, 8th Earl of Fife [SCT] and Patrick, 8th Earl of Dunbar and 2nd Earl of March [SCT], at the unsuccessful siege of the Castle of Cupar-Fife, which began in January 1335/6. In 1340, while Edward III was engaged in besieging Tournai (23 July to 25 September), he took part with the Earl of Dunbar and March in a particularly devasting raid into Northumberland, during the return from which they were engaged by Sir Thomas Gray of Heton. On 2 June 1341 King David II with his Consort Queen Joan (sister of King Edward III) landed at Inverbervie in Kincardineshire and took Earl William IV into such high favour that on 1 December 1342, at the King's request, Pope Clement VI granted a dispensation for the marriage, although "related to each other in the fourth degree of consanguinity," of the Earl of Sutherland and the Princess Margaret, the King's sister of the whole blood. On 28 September 1345 the King conferred various thanages and other lands on the Earl and his wife, with remainder to their issue, failing which all the lands were to revert to the Crown. A fortnight later, 10 October 1345, the Earldom of Sutherland was erected into a Regality with a similar limitation; on 4 November the King gave the Earl the barony of Cluny in Aberdeenshire; and on 30 March 1346 the Earl and his wife Margaret received a grant of the King's Crag of Dunnottar, in Kincardineshire, with permission to re-fortify it. According to Froissart Earl William IV was among the first to arrive at Perth in the autumn of 1346 for the invasion of England and was with the King in the 4th line at the Battle of Neville's Cross, where the Scots were defeated, 17 October 1346. Earl William is said, like King David II, to have been taken prisoner; but if so he was, like Malcolm (Fleming), 1st Earl of Wigtown, another prisoner, able to escape to Scotland. In June 1351 he had a safe-conduct to go to Newcastle to negotiate about the ransome of King David II, and when that monarch was allowed to visit Scotland on parole for a few months, the Earl's infant son John, Master of Sutherland, was one of the hostages for his return, 5 September 1351. On 3 October 1357, in accordance with the Treaty of Berwick, the Earl himself and his eldest son went to England as hostages for the payment of the King's ransom of 100,000 merks, and were lodged by the Chancellor, William Edington, Bishop of Winchester. During the next ten years the Earl was often allowed to return to Scotland and in December 1363 had permission for himself and his wife to go on pilgrimage to Canterbury. During his absence in England the King on 28 February 1358/9 granted him and his eldest son the barony and castle of Urquhart, in Inverness-shire, and later paid him £80 towards his expenses in England in addition to various sums from the Exchequer. The Earl is supposed to have been released soon after 20 March 1366/7, when he and his wife had a safeconduct to return to England from a visit to Scotland on parole. Although so long away from home he was involved in a feud with his neighbour in Strathnaver, lye MacDonald Mackay, and when the matters in dispute were brought before a court assembled at Dingwall in 1370, the Earl's brother, Nicholas Sutherland of Torboll, murdered Iye and his elder son Donald. It has been suggested that the death of Earl William IV, who was still alive on 27 February 1369/70, may have been the result of revenge for this murder. He married, 1stly (dispensation 1 December 1342), between 3 August and 28 September 1345, Margaret, daughter of ROBERT I, KING OF SCOTLAND, by his 2nd wife, Elizabeth, daughter of Richard (DE BURGH), 2nd EARL OF ULSTER [IRL]. She died, it is said in childbirth, after 30 March 1346. He married, 2ndly (post-nuptial dispensation 9 November 1347), Joan, daughter of Sir John MENTEITH, of Rusky and Knapdale, widow of (i) Malise 7th EARL OF STRATHEARN [SCT], (died ante 1329), (ii) John (CAMPBELL), EARL OF ATHOLL [SCT] (killed at Halidon Hill, 19 July 1333), and (iii) Maurice (MORAY), EARL OF STRATHEARN [SCT] (so created 1344, killed at Neville's Cross, 17 October 1346). The Earl died before 19 June 1371, when King Robert II granted the barony and castle of Urquhart, which had reverted to the Crown on his death, to his own son David, Earl of Strathearn [SCT].
[Complete Peerage XII/1:541-4]
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William, fifth Earl of Sutherland succeeded his father on 19 July 1333, and was probably then of age. There is no evidence of his wardship, and he almost immediately took an active part in public life. Sir Robert Gordon asserts that the young Earl took part in the battle of Kilblene, when David, Earl of Atholl, was slain, but there is no corroboration of this. From an English chronicle, however, it appears that he was a leader of the Scottish force which besieged the castle of Cupar-Fife, then held by the English. The Scots, however, were put to flight by the activity and strategy of Sir John Stirling, Governor of Edinburgh Castle. In 1340 he took part, with the Earl of March, in a foray into England, and though, on their way home, they were intercepted by an English force under Sir Thomas Grey, and worsted, they did much damage, so that four years later, a large part of Northumberland was still unprofitable.
In 1343, or between December 1342 and September 1345, the Earl married Margaret, sister of David Bruce, and that King conferred upon him in rapid succession considerable grants of land. On 28 September 1345 the spouses had a grant in free marriage of the thanage of Downie, co. Forfar, also of the thanage of Kincardine, with caslte, etc., the thanage of Fettercairn, and the thanage of Aberluthnot, all in Kincardineshire, and the half of the thanage of Fermartine and Kintore in the sheriffdom of Aberdeen. This was followed, on 10 October 1345, by the erection of the earldom of Sutherland into a regality. On 4 November 1345 the King added the whole barony of Cluny in Aberdeenshire, and on 30 March 1346 the Earl and his wife received a grant of the King's rock or crag of Dunottar, co. Kincardine, with licence to build a fortalice thereon. In 1346 the Earl acompanied his royal brother-in-law to Neville's Cross. Froissart speaks of him under the name of the Earl of Orkney, as being the first to join the King, with 'many men-at-arms.' He is said to have been taken prisoner, but if so, his name does not occur in any list of captives. He seems to have occupied himself in the interval with his private affairs, but his next appearance in public life is in June 1351, when he had a safe-conduct to Newcastle to confer on the subject of King David's ransom. In September of that year his infant son and heir was given as a hostage for King David on the latter's return to Scotland for a few months. In 1357 The Earl himself, with his eldest son, was hostage for the payment of the King's ransom, and remained in England for more that ten years, visiting Scotland at intervals, marked by the granting of various charters to relatives and others. On 28 February 1358-59 King David granted to the Earl and his son John the barony and castle of Urquhart, co. Inverness, which is said to have been in exchange for the thanages in Kincardineshire formerly granted, but the earlier charter was repeated in 1360. On 30 July 1366 the King renewed to the Earl the grant of the half thanage of Fermartine. Between 1360 and 1365 the Earl also received various sums from Exchequer in addition to £80 paid by the King towards his expenses in England. The Earl is said by Sir Robert Gordon to have died in 1370, and this is probably correct. He was alive on 27 February 1369-70, when he still held the frank-tenement of the thanage of Kincardine and others, the reversion of which was then granted to Sir Walter Leslie, afterwards Earl of Ross; but in June 1371, the barony of Urquhart was in the hands of the Crown, and the Earl was probably dead. It has been stated that he was concerned in the murder of Iye Mackay and his son Donald in 1370, and this own death was the result of revenge.
The fifth Earl married, first, as already indicated, the Princess Margaret Bruce, youngest daughter of King Robert Bruce by his second wife Elizabeth de Burgh, and sister of King David Bruce. They had a dispensation on 1 December 1342, as they were in the fourth degree of consanguinity, but in a papal indulgenced granted to her on 6 November 1363, a year later, she is styled sister of the King of Scots, and not Countess of Sutherland. Indeed, if the evidence of charters be taken, their marriage did not take place till 1345. The Princess is said to have died at the birth of her only son, and this seems probable. She was alive on 30 March 1346, but she was dead, and her husband had married again before November 1347. The Earl married, secondly, Joanna Menteith, widow successively of Malise, seventh Earl of Strathearn, John Campbell, Earl of Atholl, and Maurice Moray, Earl of Strathearn. The Earl and his second wife had a dispensation, of the date 9 November 1347, on the following grounds. They petitioned that Joanna had been married to John, Earl of Atholl, and Maurice Moray. That after the death of the latter, Earl William and she, ignorant that any impediment existed between them which should hinder their marriage, contracted matrimony 'per verba de presenti;' but they afterwards learned that they were related doubly in the fourth degree of affinity, because William, John and Maurice were related in the fourth degree of consanguinity, in consequence of which William and Joanna could not, without a dispensation, remain in marriage. They therefore petitioned accordingly. This shows that they had been married for some time before November 1347, so that the Princess Margaret had d
=== William was an Earl of Sutherland. ===
William was an Earl of Sutherland.
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!NOTE: The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, Ancestral File (TM); ; July 1996 (c), data as of 2 January 1996; ; , Family History Library, 35 N West Temple Street, Salt Lake City, UT 84150 USA
=== `title> Earl of Sutherland; ===
`title> Earl of Sutherland;
=== Name Suffix: Earl Of Southerland ===
Name Suffix: Earl Of Southerland
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From Ancestral File (TM), data as of 5 JAN 1998.
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=== AFN: 9G46-V0 ===
AFN: 9G46-V0
=== From Ancestral File (TM), data as of 2 J ===
From Ancestral File (TM), data as of 2 January 1996. From Ancestral File (TM), data as of 2 January 1996.
Preferred Parents:
Father: Kenneth Sutherland 4th Earl of Sutherland, b. in Dunrobin Castle, Sutherland, Scotland, United Kingdom d. 27 JUL 1333 in Battle of Halidon Hill, Northumberland, England, United Kingdom
Mother: Margaret de Mar, b. MAR 1270 in Kildrummy Castle, Aberdeenshire, Scotland d. 24 JUL 1326 in Dunrobin Castle,Golspie, Sutherland, Scotland
Family 1: Margaret de Bruce, b. 1315 in Dunfermline, Fife, Scotland d. 30 MAR 1346 in Fife, Scotland
Family 2: Joan Menteith, b. 1314 in Port of Menteith, Perthshire, Scotland, United Kingdom d. 20 MAR 1367 in Strathearn, Perthshire, Scotland
- m. 9 NOV 1347 in Buchan, Aberdeenshire, Scotland
- Robert Sutherland 6th Earl of Sutherland, b. 1347 in Sutherland, Scotland d. 1444 in Dunrobin Castle, Sutherland, Scotland, United Kingdom
Sources:
- Title: William, Earl of Sutherland, in record of Margaret de Brus in record of King Robert I, de Brus - Scots Peerage volume 1
Publication: Name: https://archive.org/details/scotspeeragefoun01pauluoft/page/8/mode/1up;
Note: Pages 7 - 8
ROBERT I., de Brus, or The Bruce,' Earl of Carrick and Lord of Annandale (see these titles): born at Writtle, near Chelmsford, 11 July 1274: chosen one of the guardians of the kingdom 19 August 1299: assumed the sovereignty and was crowned at Scone 27 March 1306. He finally achieved the independence of Scotland, and after an eventful reign of twenty-three years died at Cardross 7 June 1329, and was buried at Dunfermline. He married, first, about 1295, Isabella, daughter of Donald, tenth Earl of Mar, by whom he had an only child:
1. Marjorie, who was married to Walter, High Steward of Scotland. She died 2 March 1215-16, leaving one son, who eventually became king as Robert II.
King Robert married, secondly, in 1302, Elizabeth, daughter of Richard de Burgh, Earl of Ulster, who died at Cullen 26 October 1327, and was buried at Dunfermline, by whom he had:
2. Matilda, married to ' a certain squire ' Thomas Isaac. She died 20 July 1353, and was buried in Dunfermline, leaving two daughters :
(1) Joanna, married to John, Lord of Lorn.
(2) Catherine, d. s. p.
3. Margaret, who was married in 1343 to William, Earl of Sutherland (see that title), and died some time before November 1347.
4. DAVID, afterwards king.
5. John, died in childhood.
King Robert had several illegitimate children :
1. Sir Robert, killed at Dupplin 12 August 1332.
2. Nigel of Carrick, killed at the battle of Durham 17 October 1346.
3. Margaret, who was married to Robert Glen, and was alive 29 February 1363-4.
4. Elizabeth, who was married, before 1365, to Sir Walter Oliphant of Aberdalgie.
5. Christian of Carrick.
- Title: WILLIAM [IV] Sutherland Earl of Sutherland in record of MARGARET Bruce, daughter of ROBERT I King of Scotland, Kings of Scotland - Foundation for Medieval Genealogy
Publication: Name: http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/SCOTLAND.htm#Margaretdied13461347;
Note: B. KINGS OF SCOTLAND 1306-1371
ROBERT [VII] Bruce, son of ROBERT [VI] de Brus, Earl of Carrick, Lord of Annandale & his first wife Margaret Ctss of Carrick (Writtle, near Chelmsford, Essex 11 Jul 1274-Cardross Castle, Dumbartonshire 7 Jun 1329, bur Dunfermline Abbey, Fife). The Liber Pluscardensis records the birth in 1274 of "Robertus de Broys tercius…rex Scociæ futurus". The manuscript history of the Bruce family of Carleton records that “Robertus Brus quintus…rex Scotiæ” succeeded “Robertus Brus quartus”. He succeeded his father 27 Oct 1292 as Earl of Carrick. He succeeded his father in 1304 as Baron Bruce and Lord of Annandale. Edward I King of England forfeited his English estates 20 Feb 1305/6. In defiance of Edward I King of England, he assumed the crown 25 or 27 Mar 1306 as ROBERT I King of Scotland, crowned 25 and 27 Mar 1306. John of Fordun’s Scotichronicon (Continuator) records the coronation "VI Kal Apr" in 1306 of "Robertus de Bruce comes tunc de Carrick" at Scone. John of Fordun’s Scotichronicon (Continuator) records the death "VII Id Jun…apud Cardros" in 1329 of "Robertus de Bruce rex Scotorum" in the twenty-fourth year of his reign. The Extracta ex Cronicis Scocie records the death "apud Cardross" of "Robertus de Broys rex Scotorum" and his burial "in medio chori de Dumfermling…VII Id Jun" in 1329.
m firstly ([1295]) ISABEL of Mar, daughter of DONALD Earl of Mar & his wife Helen [of North Wales] (-before 1302). John of Fordun’s Scotichronicon (Continuator) records that "Robertus…rex, quuando fuit comes de Carric" married "Isabellam sororem Garthenai comitis de Marr".
m secondly (1302) ELIZABETH de Burgh, daughter of RICHARD de Burgh Earl of Ulster and Connaught & his wife Margaret de Burgh of Lavanley (-Cullen Castle, Banffshire 26 Oct 1327, bur Dunfermline Abbey, Fife). John of Fordun’s Scotichronicon (Continuator) records that "Robertus, adhuc comes" married "Elizabeth filiam Haymeri de Burkis comitis de Hullister" after the death of his first wife. The Chronicle of John of Fordun (Continuator - Annals) records that in 1306 "the queen" was captured by William Earl of Ross and "brought to the king of England and…kept a prisoner in close custody until the battle of Bannockburn". Orders for the "farther…custody of the countesses of Carrick and Buchan, Marie and Christine the sisters, and Margerie the daughter, of Robert de Brus", specifying that "three of the ladies to be in kages", are dated 7 Nov 1306. John of Fordun’s Scotichronicon (Continuator) records the death "VII Kal Nov" in 1327 of "domina Elizabeth regina, mater regis David" and her burial "in choro de Dunfermeling juxta regem Robertum sponsum suum". The Liber Pluscardensis records the death in 1327 of "Elizabeth regina Scociæ mater David regis et uxor…Roberti de Broys" and her burial "apud Dunfermlyn". The Extracta ex Cronicis Scocie records the death "VII Kal Nov" in 1327 of "Regina Elizabeitht, mater regis David de Broys" and her burial "in choro de Dumfermling iuxta Robertem regem et suum sponsum".
King Robert I & his first wife had one child:
1. MARJORY Bruce ([1296/97]-Paisley, Renfrewshire 2 Mar 1316, bur Paisley Abbey). John of Fordun’s Scotichronicon (Continuator) names "Marjoriam" as the only daughter of "Robertus…rex, quuando fuit comes de Carric" and his wife "Isabellam sororem Garthenai comitis de Marr", adding that she married "Waltero senescallo Scotiæ". Orders for the "farther…custody of the countesses of Carrick and Buchan, Marie and Christine the sisters, and Margerie the daughter, of Robert de Brus", specifying that "three of the ladies to be in kages", are dated 7 Nov 1306. The Liber Pluscardensis records that "nobilis Walteri Stevart" married "filiam Roberti de Broys". She died in childbirth triggered by falling from her horse. m (1315) as his first wife, WALTER High Steward of Scotland, son of JAMES High Steward of Scotland & his [third] wife Egidia de Burgh ([1292]-9 Apr [1326/29]). Marjory & her husband had one child:
a) ROBERT Stewart (Paisley, Renfrewshire 2 Mar 1316-Dundonald Castle, Ayrshire 19 Apr 1390, bur Scone Abbey, Perthshire). John of Fordun’s Scotichronicon (Continuator) names "Robertum regem, secundum" as only son of "Marjoriam", daughter of "Robertus…rex, quuando fuit comes de Carric", and her husband "Waltero senescallo Scotiæ". He succeeded his uncle in 1371 as ROBERT II King of Scotland.
- see below, Chapter 5.B. KINGS of SCOTLAND, House of STEWART.
King Robert I & his second wife had four children:
2. MARGARET Bruce (-in childbirth [30 Mar 1346/early 1347]). John of Fordun’s Scotichronicon (Continuator) names "Matildem…et Margaritam" as the two daughters of "Robertus, adhuc comes" and his wife "Elizabeth filiam Haymeri de Burkis comitis de Hullister", adding that Margaret married "comiti Suthirlandiæ" by whom she had "unicum filium…Johannem", dying in childbirth. m (Papal dispensation 1 Dec 1342, [3 Aug/28 Sep] 1345) as his first wife, WILLIAM [IV] Sutherland Earl of Sutherland, son of KENNETH Sutherland Earl of Sutherland & his wife --- (-[27 Feb 1370/Jun 1371]). The earldom of Sutherland was erected into a regality 10 Oct 1345, which lapsed on this earl's death without surviving issue from his first marriage.
3. MATILDA Bruce (-Aberdeen 30 Jul 1353, bur Dunfermline Abbey, Fife). John of Fordun’s Scotichronicon (Continuator) names "Matildem…et Margaritam" as the two daughters of "Robertus, adhuc comes" and his wife "Elizabeth filiam Haymeri de Burkis comitis de Hullister", adding that Matilda "did nothing worth recording" and in a later passage that Matilda married "Thomæ Isak" by whom she had two daughters, "Johannam" who married "Johanni domini de Lorn" and had "filios et filias", and "Catherinam" who died "apud Strivelyn". The same source in a later passage records the death "on the feast of the blessed virgin Margaret" in 1353 at Aberdeen of "Matilda of Bruce sister of the lord David king of Scotland" and her burial "at Dunfermline", adding that she married "a certain squire named Thomas Isaac" and had two daughters "Joan [wife of] John of Lorn, lord of that ilk, who of her begat sons and daughters, [and] Catherine" who died "at Strivelyn". m THOMAS Isaac, son of ---.
4. DAVID Bruce (Dunfermline Palace, Fife 5 Mar 1324-Edinburgh Castle 22 Feb 1371, bur Holyrood Abbey, Edinburgh). John of Fordun’s Scotichronicon (Continuator) names "David" as only son of "Robertus, adhuc comes" and his wife "Elizabeth filiam Haymeri de Burkis comitis de Hullister". The Chronicle of John of Fordun (Continuator - Annals) records in a later passage his birth 5 Mar 1324 in "the monastery of Dunfermline". He was created Earl of Carrick [17 Mar/17 Jul] 1328. He succeeded his father in 1329 as DAVID II King of Scotland, crowned 24 Nov 1331 at Scone Abbey, Perthshire. John of Fordun’s Scotichronicon (Continuator) records the coronation "VIII Kal Dec…apud Sconam" in 1331 of "David rex Scotorum, filius et heres regis Roberti de Bruce" when eight years old. He was deposed by Edward Balliol Aug 1332 after the battle of Dupplin Moor, near Perth, but restored Dec 1332. Deposed again 1333, finally restored 1336. Taken prisoner at the battle of Neville's Cross 17 Oct 1346, and imprisoned in the Tower. The Chronicle of John of Fordun (Continuator - Annals) records the death in 1370 "on the Feast of St Peter’s Chair…at Edinburgh Castle" of "David Bruce king of Scotland" and his burial "in the monastery of Holyrood". m firstly (Berwick-upon-Tweed 17 Jul 1328) JOAN of England, daughter of EDWARD II King of England & his wife Isabelle de France (Tower of London 5 Jul 1321-Hertford Castle 7 Sep 1362, bur Greyfriars Church, Newgate, London). John of Fordun’s Scotichronicon (Continuator) records the marriage at Berwick 17 Jul 1328 of "David filius et heres regis Roberti de Bruce" and "sororem Eadwardi de Windesour, filiam Eadwardi de Carnarvan paulo ante defuncti". Froissart names "Ysabel" as older daughter of King Edward II and his wife, adding that she married "au jone roy David d’Escoce, filz au roi Robert de Brus" and recording their marriage at Berwick in a later passage. She was crowned Queen Consort with her husband at Scone Abbey. Mistress (1): KATHERINE de Mortimer, daughter of --- (-1361). The Liber Pluscardensis records the death in 1361 of "concubinæ regis Katerinæ de Mortimar", adding that the king had neglected the queen for her. m secondly (Inchmurdach Manor, Fife or Inchmahone Priory, Perthshire Apr or Dec 1363, divorced 20 Mar 1370) as her second husband, MARGARET Drummond, widow of JOHN Logie of that Ilk, daughter of MALCOLM Drummond & his wife --- de Graham (-[Avignon] soon after 31 Jan 1375). The Chronicle of John of Fordun (Continuator - Annals) records the second marriage of "lord David king of Scotland" and "Margaret of Logie" at "Inchmurdach" in 1363. The Liber Pluscardensis records the marriage "apud Enchemarthow", dated to [1362/63] from the context, of King David and "Margaretam de Logi, filiam domini Malcolmi de Drummond" and their divorce without her consent "circa festum Carnis Brevii" in 1369.
5. JOHN (Oct 1327-young, bur Restennet Priory, Forfarshire). The primary source which confirms his parentage has not yet been identified.
King Robert I had [six] illegitimate children by unknown mistresses:
6. ROBERT (-killed in battle Dupplin 12 Aug 1332). Baron of Liddesdale. John of Fordun’s Scotichronicon (Continuator) records that "…Roberto de Bruce filio…regis Roberti…" were killed at Duplin Moor 11 Aug 1332 fighting Edward Balliol.
7. NEIL [Nigel] of Carrick (-killed in battle Durham 17 Oct 1346).
8. [ WALTER of Odistoun .]
9. CHRISTINA of Carrick (-after 1329).
10. MARGARET (-after 29 Feb 1364). m ROBERT Glen, son of ---.
11. ELIZABETH . m (before 1365) WALTER Oliphant of Aberdalgie, son of --- (-after 1378).
- Title: Charters of King David II of Scotland
Publication: Name: https://cotr.ac.uk/robert-charters/david-iis-charters-and-letters/;
Note: Charters of King David II of Scotland
1/54/109 122 44 p. 134 Edinburgh 30-Mar 17 1346 Charter David II William earl of Sutherland
- Title: WILLIAM [IV] Sutherland, Earl of Sutherland - Foundation for Medieval Genealogy
Publication: Name: http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/SCOTTISH%20NOBILITY%20LATER.htm#WilliamIVSutherlanddied1370B;
Note: B. EARLS of SUTHERLAND
WILLIAM [I] de Sutherland, son of HUGH [II] & his wife --- ([1190/1200?]-[Dunrobin 1248, bur Dornoch]). His birth date is estimated on the assumption that he was of age at the time of his [1214/22] confirmation, but bearing in mind his son’s estimated birth date shown below. His parentage and lordship in Sutherland are confirmed by the following document: "Willelmus dominus de Suthyrlandia filius et heres quondam Hugonis Freskyn" confirmed the donation of "terram meam de Scelbotil in Suthyrlandia et de Fernebuchlyn et de Innerchen..." to Gilbert Archdeacon of Moray made by "Hugo Freskyn quondam pater meus" by charter dated to [1214/22], witnessed by "...Hugone Duglas, Freskyno de Duglas…"[386]. He was created Earl of Sutherland: Fraser notes that the creation charter has not been traced, but suggests that it can be dated to 1235[387]. Gordon records that “Erle William died at Dounrobin 1248” and was buried “in the south yle of the cathedrall church at Dornoch” (no sources cited)[388].
m ---. The name of William’s wife is not known. As his son was under age when William died (see below), he either married late in life or his son was born from a late second marriage.
William [I] & his wife had one child:
1. WILLIAM [II] de Sutherland ([1235/40?]-[Apr 1306/Sep 1307]). His parentage is confirmed by the 22 Sep 1275 charter cited below. Fraser says that “according to family tradition [no source cited], [he] was young at the time of his father’s death, and as he survived till the year 1307, he was thus in possession of the earldom...for about sixty years”[389]. This “tradition” appears consistent with his first mention in 1263. His estimated birth date is suggested on this bases, bearing in mind the chronology of his descendants. He succeeded his father as Earl of Sutherland. Accounts dated 1263 and 1266 record payments “de parte finis comitis Sutherlandie”[390]. "...Willelmo comite Suthirland..." witnessed the charter dated 1268 in which "Willelmus comes de Ros" confirmed a donation made to Moray by "quondam Freskinus de Moravia dominus de Duffus"[391]. Archibald Bishop of Caithness settled a dispute between his predecessor bishops and "Willelmus clare memorie et Willelmum eius filium comites Suthirlandie" about "castro de Schythebolle..." and other lands [see [1211] and [1214] charters citede above] by charter dated 22 Sep 1275[392]. During the post-1290 succession crisis, the earl’s support waivered between different claimants: "...the Earl of Sutherland..." was among those who swore allegiance to King Edward I 12 Jul 1291[393]. "William Earl of Sutherland" attested his support for Robert de Brus Lord of Annandale in his claim to the throne of Scotland[394]. The Ragman Roll records "...William Earl of Sutherland..." among those who swore fealty with John de Balliol to King Edward I at Nerwick-upon-Twed 28 Aug 1296[395]. King Edward thanked "William Earl of Sutherland" for “the good faith he has ever had”, dated 4 Apr 1304[396]. "Mons William Conte de Sutherl" petitioned King Edward for "terres Thomas de Dolays", dated to 1306[397]. A letter from William Earl of Ross to King Edward II, dated to early 1308 and referring to Robert Bruce’s invasion of Sutherland, records that “Gillame, jadis Counte de Sothrenland, fist a la fey nostre Seignor, vostre pere, e quant il morout Sire Aymer de Valaunce, gardein Descoce [Guardian of Scotland Apr 1306-Sep 1307]...graunta la garde de mesme cele countee a Johan, nostre fiz puisnee”[398]. The Complete Peerage suggests that he died before the death of King Edward I (7 Jul 1307)[399]. m ---. The name of William’s wife is not known. As his older son was under age when William died (see below), he either married late in life or his sons were born from a late second marriage. William [II] & his wife had two children:
a) WILLIAM [III] Sutherland ([after 1285?]-[1327/Dec 1330]). Fraser records that William was under age when he succeeded his father, his ward being granted to John, younger son of William Earl of Ross as recorded in the last document cited above under his father[400]. He succeeded his father as Earl of Sutherland.
b) KENNETH Sutherland (-19 Jul 1333). He succeeded his brother as Earl of Sutherland. m . Kenneth & his wife had children:
i) WILLIAM [IV] Sutherland (-[27 Feb 1370/Jun 1371]). He succeeded his father as Earl of Sutherland.
- see below.
ii) NICHOLAS Sutherland .
iii) EUSTACHIA Sutherland . m ([Dec 1330]) GILBERT Moray, son of REGINALD Moray of Culbin & his wife ---.
WILLIAM [IV] Sutherland, son of KENNETH Sutherland Earl of Sutherland & his wife --- (-[27 Feb 1370/Jun 1371]). He succeeded his father as Earl of Sutherland. The earldom of Sutherland was erected into a regality 10 Oct 1345, which lapsed on this earl's death without surviving issue from his first marriage.
m firstly (Papal dispensation 1 Dec 1342, [3 Aug/28 Sep] 1345) MARGARET Bruce, daughter of ROBERT I King of Scotland & his second wife Elizabeth de Burgh (-in childbirth [30 Mar 1346/early 1347]). John of Fordun’s Scotichronicon (Continuator) names "Matildem…et Margaritam" as the two daughters of "Robertus, adhuc comes" and his wife "Elizabeth filiam Haymeri de Burkis comitis de Hullister", adding that Margaret married "comiti Suthirlandiæ" by whom she had "unicum filium…Johannem", dying in childbirth[401].
m secondly ([Nov 1346/Oct 1347], post-nuptial dispensation 9 Nov 1347[402]) as her fourth husband, JOAN Menteith, widow firstly of MALISE Earl of Strathearn, secondly of JOHN Campbell Earl of Atholl, thirdly of MAURICE Moray of Drumsargard, daughter of JOHN Menteith of Rusky & his wife --- (-after 20 Mar 1367). Follow the hyperlinks for details of her previous marriages.
William [IV] & his first wife had one child:
1. JOHN Sutherland ([30 Mar 1346/early 1347]-1361).
William [IV] & his second wife had two children:
2. ROBERT Sutherland (-[before 1427 or 1442]). He succeeded his father as Earl of Sutherland. m (1389) MARGARET Stewart, illegitimate daughter of ALEXANDER Stewart Earl of Buchan “the Wolf of Badenoch” & his mistress ---. Burnett records her parentage (no source cited)[403]. Her marriage is indicated by the following: the Chronicle of Andrew of Wyntoun records “Alexandir, than Erle of Mare...Johne of Sutherland, his newew...Androw Stewart his bruthire” knighted in the service of the duke of Burgundy in 1408[404]. Robert & his wife had one child:
- EARLS of SUTHERLAND.
3. KENNETH Sutherland (-after 1408).
- Title: The Sutherland book.Memoirs(Correspondence,-Charters,)
Author: National Library of Scotland.
Publication: Name: http://digital.nls.uk/dcn23/9683/96839197.23.pdf;
Note: Correspondence,charters,plates,portraits,facsimiles and genealogical tables.
- Title: V. William, fifth Earl of Sutherland in SUTHERLAND, EARL OF SUTHERLAND - Scots Peerage Volume 8
Author: Internet Archive https://archive.org/details/DouglasRScotsPeerageVol81911/page/n348/mode/1up Douglas R Scots Peerage Vol 8 1911 Topics Douglas R Scots Peerage Vol 8 1911 Collection folkscanomy_history; folkscanomy; additional_collections Language English Douglas R Scots Peerage Vol 8 1911 Addeddate 2017-07-02 03:03:01 Identifier DouglasRScotsPeerageVol81911 Identifier-ark ark:/13960/t2h762m12 Ocr ABBYY FineReader 11.0 Ppi 600 Scanner Internet Archive HTML5 Uploader 1.6.3
Publication: Name: https://archive.org/details/DouglasRScotsPeerageVol81911/page/n347/mode/1up;
Note: Pages 324-329
IV. Kenneth, fourth Earl of Sutherland, succeeded his brother some time before December 1330, but his tenure of the earldom was very brief. His career is unrecorded, almost the only public notice of him being the fact that he was one of the leaders of the reserve of the Scottish army at the battle of Halidon Hill 19 July 1333. There it is said he fought valiantly, and he and his fellow-commander, the Earl of Ross, were killed while leading their men against that wing of the English army in which was Edward Baliol. Earl Kenneth, according to Sir Robert Gordon, married ‘Mary,’ daughter of Donald, Earl of Mar, who may be identical with the Marjorie of Mar who was widow of John of Strathbogie, Earl of Mar, who died 7 November 1306. (See titles Atholl and Mar.) He had issue:
1. William, fifth Earl of Sutherland.
2. Nicolas Sutherland, the surname being now fully adopted,1 ancestor of the Sutherlands, Lords Duffus, (See that title for a more detailed notice.)
3. Eustachia, married, about December 1330, to Gilbert Moray, son and heir of Reginald Moray of Culbin. On 6 December of that year Earl Kenneth resigned all rights and exactions he might claim from Reginald’s lands within the earldom, and he made over to Reginald the relief duty of his lands on account of a marriage between their children. Gilbert and Eustachia had issue, and their line ended in an heiress, Egidia Moray, married to Thomas Kinnaird, who died before 7 May 1440.
V. William, fifth Earl of Sutherland succeeded his father on 19 July 1333, and was probably then of age. There is no evidence of his wardship, and he almost immediately took an active part in public life. Sir Robert Gordon asserts that the young Earl took part in the battle of Kilblene, when David, Earl of Atholl, was slain, but there is no corroboration of this. From an English chronicle, however, it appears that he was a leader of the Scottish force which besieged the castle of Cupar-Fife, then held by the English. The Scots, however, were put to flight by the activity and strategy of Sir John Stirling, Governor of Edinburgh Oastle.4 In 1340 he took part, with the Earl of March, in a foray into England, and though, on their way home, they were intercepted by an English force under Sir Thomas Grey, and worsted, they did much damage, so that four years later a large part of Northumberland was still unprofitable.
In 1343, or between December 1342 and September 1345, the Earl married Margaret, sister of King David Bruce, and that King conferred upon him in rapid succession considerable grants of land. On 28 September 1345 the spouses had a grant in free marriage of the thanage of Downie, co. Forfar, also of the thanage of Kincardine, with castle, etc., the thanage of Fettercairn, and the thanage of Aberluthnot, all in Kincardineshire, and the half of the thanages of Fermartine and Kintore in the sheriffdom of Aberdeen. This was followed, on 10 October 1345, by the erection of the earldom of Sutherland into a regality. On 4 November 1345 the King added the whole barony of Oluny in Aberdeenshire, and on 30 March 1346 the Earl and his wife received a grant of the King’s rock or crag of Dunottar, co. Kincardine, with licence to build a fortalice thereon. In 1346 the Earl accompanied his royal brother-in-law to England on the expedition which ended so ignominiously at Neville’s Cross. Froissart speaks of him under the name of the Earl of Orkney, as being the first to join the King, with 4 many men-at-arms. He is said to have been taken prisoner, but if so, his name does not occur in any list of captives. He seems to have occupied himself in the interval with his private affairs, but his next appearance in public life is in June 1351, when he had a safe-conduct to Newcastle to confer on the subject of King David’s ransom. In September of that year his infant son and heir was given as a hostage for King David on the latter’s return to Scotland for a few months. In 1357 the Earl himself, with his eldest son, was a hostage for the payment of the King’s ransom, and remained in England for more than ten years, visiting Scotland at intervals, marked by the granting of various charters to relatives and others. On 28 February 1358-59 King David granted to the Earl and his son John the barony and castle of Urquhart, co. Inverness, which is said to have been in exchange for the thanages in Kincardineshire formerly granted, but the earlier charter was repeated in 1360. On 30 July 1366 the King renewed to the Earl the grant of the half thanage of Fermartine. Between 1360 and 1365 the Earl also received various sums from Exchequer in addition to £80 paid by the King towards his expenses in England. The Earl is said by Sir Robert Gordon to have died in 1370, and this is probably correct. He was alive on 27 February 1369-70, when he still held the frank-tenement of the thanage of Kincardine and others, the reversion of which was then granted to Sir Walter Leslie, afterwards Earl of Ross; but in June 1371, the barony of Urquhart was in the hands of the Grown, and the Earl was probably then dead. It has been stated that he was concerned in the murder of lye Mackay and his son Donald in 1370, and that his own death was the result of revenge.
The fifth Earl married, first, as already indicated, the Princess Margaret Bruce, youngest daughter of King Robert Bruce by his second wife Elizabeth de Burgh, and sister of King David Bruce. They had a dispensation on 1 December 1342, as they were in the fourth degree of consanguinity, but in a papal indulgence granted to her on 6 November 1343, a year later, she is styled sister of the King of Scots, and not Countess of Sutherland.6 Indeed, if the evidence of charters be taken, their marriage did not take place till 1345. The Princess is said to have died at the birth of her only son, and this seems probable. She was alive on 30 March 1346, but she was dead, and her husband had married again before November 1347. The Earl married, secondly, Joanna Menteith, widow successively of Malise, seventh Earl of Strathearn, John Campbell, Earl of Atholl, and Maurice Moray, Earl of Strathearn. (See these titles.) The Earl and his second wife had a dispensation, of date 9 November 1347, on the following grounds. They petitioned that Joanna had been married to John, Earl of Atholl, and Maurice Moray. That after the death of the latter, Earl William and she, ignorant that any impediment existed between them which should hinder their marriage, contracted matrimony per verba de presenti; but they afterwards learned that they were related doubly in the fourth degree of affinity, because William, John, and Maurice were related in the fourth degree of consanguinity, in consequence of which William and Joanna could not, without a dispensation, remain in marriage. They therefore petitioned accordingly. This shows that they had been married for some time before November 1347, so that the Princess Margaret had died not long after 30 March 1346. Countess Joanna in writs granted by herself always styles herself as of Strathearn and a widow, but in writs by others, especially safe-conducts to England, she is styled Countess of Sutherland, the latest of these being dated in March 1366-67 It is not known when she died.
By his first wife the Earl had issue one son:
1. John, who as stated, was sent to England as a hostage when he was very young, and he died there of the plague in 1361. Sir Robert Gordon erroneously states that the Earl’s son and heir Alexander was the hostage, and died in England, and that John carried on the line of the family. But Fordun, a contemporary, says positively that the Princess Margaret had only one son, John, and Wyntoun repeats the statement. Fordun adds that his mother died immediately after his birth. His death, according to Bower, took place at Lincoln about 8 September 1361.
By his second wife the Earl had:
2. Robert, who became Earl of Sutherland.
3. Kenneth, who received, in 1401, a charter from his brother Earl Rober Earl Robert of the lands of Drummoy, Backies and others, confirmed by the Duke of Albany, Regent, in 1408 Lord Hailes also quotes from the Forse charters a writ to Kenneth Sutherland, son of the late William, Earl of Sutherland. He was ancestor of the family of Sutherland of Forse, and his descendant in 1766, Mr. George Sutherland of Forse, laid claim to the earldom of Sutherland as heir-male. This will he again referred to on a later page.
A William de Murriff or Moravia is named, in 1367, in a safe-conduct by King Edward III, as a son of William, Earl of Sutherland. He may have been a natural son of this or a previous Earl William.
Page: Identifies William, fifth Earl of Sutherland, as the oldest son and heir of Kenneth, fourth Earl of Sutherland, and his wife Mary of Mar, daughter of Donald, Earl of Mar, who may be identical with the Marjorie of Mar who was widow of John of Strathbogie, Earl of Mar. Identifies William as born about 1312, states he "succeeded his father on 19 July 1333, and was probably then of age". Of age being 21 and therefore age 21 or older in 1333 and born 1312 or before. Married Princess Margaret Bruce, youngest daughter of King Robert Bruce by his second wife Elizabeth de Burgh, and sister of King David Bruce, between December 1342 and September 1345.
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