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John Drummond -11th Thane of Lennox
- Preferred Name: John Drummond -11th Thane of Lennox[1]
- Alternate Name: Drummond of that Ilk
- Alternate Name: John McLeish Drummond
- Gender: M
- Occupation: B/Cargill & Chief/Clan Drummond with note: updateEventReason
- Death: 1373 in Cargill, Perthshire, Scotland at LATI: N6.5 LONG: E3.3667
- Find+A+Grave: with note: Sir John Drummond
BIRTH 1318
DEATH 1373 (aged 54–55)
Scotland
BURIAL
Inchmahome Priory
Aberfoyle, Stirling, Scotland
MEMORIAL ID 54738127 · View Source
- FSID: LR3X-YVV
- Birth: 1326 in Drymen, Stirlingshire, Scotland, United Kingdom at LATI: N6.065 LONG: E4.4511
- Alt. Death: 1373 in Aberdeenshire, Scotland
- Burial: 1373 in Inchmahome Priory, Inchmahome, Stirlingshire, Scotland at LATI: N6.1761 LONG: E4.2978
- Notes:
=== Life Sketch ===
Sir John Drummond, 11º Senhor de Lennox
Nasceu por volta de 1318, na Escócia.
Filho de Sir Malcolm Drummond, 10º Senhor de Lennox, e de Margaret Graham.
In 1367, Sir John Drummond recebeu a posse das terras de Stobhall and Cargill, herdadas de sua esposa.
Casou-se com Mary Montifex, filha de Sir William of Montifex (William Montifichet) e de [...].
John faleceu em 1373.
Foi pai de quatro filhos e quatro filhas:
1.1. Dougal Drummond.
Dougal foi Bispo de Dunblane.
1.2. Lady Annabelle Drummond, nascida em 1350, na Abadia de Dunfermline, em Fife, na Escócia. Casou-se em 1367, com Robert III, Rei da Escócia, nascido em 14 de Agosto de 1337, filho de Robert II, Rei da Escócia, e de sua primeira esposa, Elizabeth Mure of Rowallan. Annabelle faleceu em 1401, e Robert faleceu em 4 de Abril de 1406.
1.3. Sir Malcolm Drummond, casado com Isabel Douglas, Condessa de Mar, filha de William Douglas, Senhor de Douglas, e de Margaret, Condessa de Mar. Malcolm, faleceu antes de 1402, e Isabel casou-se pela segunda vez, com Alexander Stewart, Senhor de Mar, filho natural de Alexander Stewart, Senhor de Buchan, e de Margaret Atheyn. Isabel faleceu em 1408. Sem filhos.
Malcolm herdou os senhorios de Montifex, incluindo terras em Cargill, Stobhall, Auchterarder e Kincardine.
Foi aprisionado e assassinado na prisão.
1.4. Margaret Drummond, casada com Sir Colin Campbell of Lochow, filho de Sir Archibald Campbell of Lochow e de sua segunda esposa, Mary Lamont. Após a morte de Margaret, Colin casou-se pela segunda vez, com Mariot Campbell, filha de John Campbell e de [...]. Colin faleceu entre 1412 e 1414.
1.5. Sir John Drummond, 12º Senhor de Lennox, casado com Elizabeth Sinclair, filha de Henry Sinclair, Senhor de Orkney, e de Jane Halyburton. John faleceu em 1428.
1.6. Mary Drummond, nascida em 1357.
1.7. William Drummond, casado com Elizabeth Airth, filha de Sir William Airth e de [...].
1.8. Jean Drummond.
About Sir John Drummond, 11th of Lennox
Sir John Drummond, 11th of Lennox 1,2
M, #102467, b. 1318, d. 1373
Last Edited=2 Mar 2005
Sir John Drummond, 11th of Lennox was born in 1318.2 He was the son of Sir Malcolm Drummond, 10th Thane of Lennox and Margaret de Graham.2 He married Mary Montifex, daughter of Sir William de Montifex.2 He died in 1373.2 Sir John Drummond, 11th of Lennox lived at Strobhall, Scotland.1
Children of Sir John Drummond, 11th of Lennox and Mary Montifex
* Dougal Drummond 2
* Annabel Drummond+ b. c 1350, d. c Oct 1401
* Sir Malcolm Drummond b. 1351, d. 1403
* Margaret Drummond b. 1354
* Sir John Drummond, 12th of Lennox+ b. 1356, d. 1428
* Mary Drummond b. 1357
* William Drummond b. 1358
* Jean Drummond b. 1362
notes
From http://www.electricscotland.com/webclans/dtog/drummon2.html
The wife of John, the eldest son, was Mary, eldest daughter and co-heiress of Sir William de Montifex, with whom he got the lands of Auchterarder, Kincardine in Monteith, Cargill, and Stobhall in Perthshire.
He had four sons,
Sir Malcolm,
Sir John,
William, and
Dougal;
and three daughters -
Annabella, married, in 1357, John, Earl of Carrick, high steward of Scotland, afterwards King Robert the Third, and thus became Queen of Scotland, and the mother of David, Duke of Rothesay, starved to death in the palace of Falkland, in 1402, and of James the First, as well as of three daughters;
Margaret, married to Sir Colin Campbell of Lochow,
Jean, to Stewart of Donally, and
Mary, to Macdonald of the Isles.
Citations
G.E. Cokayne; with Vicary Gibbs, H.A. Doubleday, Geoffrey H. White, Duncan Warrand and Lord Howard de Walden, editors, The Complete Peerage of England, Scotland, Ireland, Great Britain and the United Kingdom, Extant, Extinct or Dormant, new ed., 13 volumes in 14 (1910-1959; reprint in 6 volumes, Gloucester, U.K.: Alan Sutton Publishing, 2000), volume I, page 155. Hereinafter cited as The Complete Peerage.
Derek Hughes, "re: 1st Lord Drummond," e-mail message from (unknown address) to Darryl Lundy, 22 December 2004, 13 February 2005 and 2 March 2005. Hereinafter cited as "re: 1st Lord Drummond".
Charles Mosley, editor, Burke's Peerage and Baronetage, 106th edition, 2 volumes (Crans, Switzerland: Burke's Peerage (Genealogical Books) Ltd, 1999), volume 1, page 104. Hereinafter cited as Burke's Peerage and Baronetage, 106th edition.
Links
http://www.thepeerage.com/p10247.htm#i102467
The Drummonds, according to unvarying tradition, are of Hungarian origin, Maurice, the first of that family who settled in Scotland, having come from that country in 1066 with Edgar the Atheling and Margaret, his sister, afterwards wife of King Malcolm III of Scotland. Maurice adopted the name Drummond from the Gaelic 'druim' and 'monadh', that is 'back of the mountain'. Maurice was the son of George, a younger son of Andreas, King of Hungary. Andreas could trace his ancestry to Arpad, the Magyar king who conquered Hungary (d. 907), who m. a dt. of Jaroslav, the king of Novgorod and Kiev. Jaroslav was descended from the Swedish Viking Rurik (d. 870), who became king of Novgorod. The Swedish conquerors were called the Rus, or fair-haired, from which the word 'Russia' is derived
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Senescal de Lenox
Sir JOHN DRUMOND, *1240 †1373 11° Senescal de Lennox. Envolveu-se em longa disputa jurídica seguida de conflitos por trinta anos até final da contenda em l° de maio de 1360. Perdeu também o privilégio
History of the Monteith's
Sir John Drummond, succeeded his father Sir Malcolm as the 11th chief of the House of Drummond. He was a man of a noble spirit, and highly esteemed by king David, who conferred upon him the honour of
BIO
BIO: from http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/SCOTTISH%20NOBILITY%20UNTITLED.htm#AnnabellaDrummonddied1401 as of 12/10/2018
JOHN Drummond (-after 1360). m [MARY Montefichet, daughter of WILLIAM Montefi
My Maternal 18th. Great Grandfather, Sir John Drummond, 11th. Thane of Lennox, 11th. Chief of Clan Drummond
Name: Sir John Drummond, 11th. Thane of Lennox, 11th. Chief of Clan Drummond
Born: 1328 in Perthshire, Scotland
Married: 1347 in Fordoun, Kincardineshire, Scotland to Mary Margaret Montifex, Heiress o
My Maternal 18th. Great Grandmother, Mary Margaret Montifex, Heiress of Stobhall
Name: Mary Margaret Montifex, Heiress of Stobhall
Born: 1325 in Stobhall, Cargill, Perthshire, Scotland
Married: 1347 in Fordoun, Kincardinshire, Scotland to Sir John Drummond, 11th. Chief of Clan Dru
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=== Sobre SIR JOHN (III) DRUMMOND ===
Décimo-primeiro e último senescal de Lennox nesta família. Envolveu-se numa disputa com os seus parentes, os Stewarts de Monteith, com guerras de clãs e mortandades de parte a parte; †1373. Fixou residência no castelo de Stobhall, em Perth, e c.c. Mary, filha de sir William de Montifex, barão de Cargill e iustitiarius Scotiæ em 1332.
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=== Sir ===
Sir
Knight
Chief
11th Thane of Lennox
known as: John Drummond of Stobhall
John Drummund; Baillie of Dull; married Mary of Montifex,
had a charter of her lands Feb 1367. [Burke's Peerage]
The Clan Drummond gained more land in 1345 when chief John Drummond married an heiress of the Montfichets and became John Drummond of Stobhall. John's sister Margaret Drummond married but they had no children. In 1357, John's daughter, Annabella Drummond married, John Stewart, and future and King Robert III of Scotland
He is named as receiving a grant (probably about 1357 or 1358) of the office of bailiary of the Abthanery of Dull, but the first certain reference to him is in the agreement, frequently referred to, made on the banks of the Forth on 17 May 1360 between him, his brother Maurice,, and Walter Moray on one side, and John and Alexander Menteith on the other part.
Rootsweb: family of John D. Newport
John Drummond, who succeeded to Malcolm, does not appear much on record. He is named as receiving a grant (probably about 1357 or 1358) of the office of bailiary of the Abthanery of Dull, but the first certain reference to him is in the agreement, frequently referred to, made on the banks of the Forth on 17 May 1360 between him, his brother Maurice, and Walter Moray on one side, and John and Alexander Menteith on the other part. There had been a blood-feud between the Drummonds and the Menteiths for some years, and three Menteiths at least had been killed. Lord Strathallan in his history says this feud arose out of a disputed claim to the earldom of Lennox, but there is no foundation for the statement he makes, as the descent of the earldom had hitherto gone from father to son. It is also said that 'Bryce the procurator,' who was slain in the feud, was a Drummond, and that his death took place in 1330. But there is no clear corraborative proof of these statements, and any evidence bearing on the matter tends to show that the quarrel had begun not much more that ten years before, if then. Now, however, it was, at the instance of King David, who is referred to in various cases as a peace-maker amongst his subjects, composed and settled. In brief, the parties agreed to dismiss all rancour against each other, but John Drummond was obliged to give up the lands of Roseneath in the Lennox as a compensation to the Menteiths. These lands, however, were not an ancient possession, as asserted by the family historians, but had been only recently granted to him by Mary, Countess Of Menteith. John Drummond also promised that the murders of Bryce the procurator should not be troubled by him, leaving it open to others of his kin to avenge his death. Other arrangements included the Campbells of Argyll in the truce with Drummond, but further details are unnecessary here. Roseneath wasa given up to Alexander Menteith, as appears from a charter of confirmation by King Robert II of date 30 March 1372.
There is nothing further recorded regarding John Drummond, and there is reason to believe he died not long after the above agreement. He is, however, named in a charter by King David II, granting to him all the lands which belonged to Mary De Montefixo, eldest daughter and heir of William De Montefixo, or Montefichet, knight, lying in the sheriffdoms of Perth and Stirling, which she resigned at Dumbarton. The writ is dated at Dumbarton 21 February 1366-67. But it is doubtful if this date is correct. Lord Strathallan states that the lands resigned by Mary De Montefichet were Auchterarder, Cargill, and Kincardine. She was the eldest of three daughters, co-heiresses of Sir William Montefichet, and Lord Strathallan affirms that King David, in dividing their father's estate among his daughters, gave her the greatest share, while on account of their adherence to the English interest, her sisters, Devorgilla or Dornagilla, and Margaret, were forfeited, and their possessions were given to Duncan and William Napier and to Hew Danielston, which gifts, according to Lord Strathallan, were dated at Dumbarton in 1366. This appears to corroborate the charter cited, but an examination of the evidence shows that the grant to William Napier on Devorgilla's forfeiture was made on 3 May 1358, while the charter to Danielston appears with others dated about 1345, and that to Duncan Napier is side by side with a writ of 1341. There is also a note of the grant to John Drummond of Mary Montefichet's land, along with other charters dated about 1345. There is therefore a strong presumption that the division of lands indicated by Lord Strathallan took place much earlier than 1366. Further evidence tends to the same result. Auchterarder belonged to the Montefichets, and so also did Cargill, which, according to the writ of 1366, were only resigned in that year. Yet on 30 April 1364 King David II granted to Malcolm Drummond (son of John) the serices of the free tenants of the baronies of Cargill and Auchterarder in Perthshire, and of Kincardine, co Stirling. This implies that these lands were then already in Malcolm's possession, and that the Crown now granted him the superiority. In such case the resignation of the lands by Mary Montefichet must have been made much earlier, probably about or before 1345, and the grant of 1366, if correctly dated, must have been a repetition. Later, in 1368, Stobhall, Cargill, and Kinloch are said to be in Malcolm's hands by grant of Queen Margaret, which led the late Dr Burnett to assume that they came to her family through her. It is evident, however, that though she may have nad some interest in the lands, they were held by the Drummonds on a separate title.
If, as apparent, this writ of 1366 is misdated, there is no evidence that John Drummond lived long after 1360, and his name had certainly not been discovered in any writ or record between these dates, a fact somewhat strange when we consider that his sister had become Queen, and that his brother Maurice and his son Malcolm are named more than once. He is usually said to have died in 1373, but no evidence had been found that he survived till then. He is said to have married Mary Montefichet, the eldest daughter of Sir William Montefichet of Auchterarder and Cargill, and this seems probable, though there is no direct evidence. Also, as he apparently died before 1361, it is not improbable that Sir William Fraser is right in identifying him as the John Drummond of Concraig who married, about 1359, Margaret, Countess Of Menteith, and who died before September 1361. There is no certain evidence, and, as already indicated, they may be different men, uncle and nephew.
[The Scots Peerage VII:34-37]
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[Hardin Clay Roots.ged]
Seneschal of Lennox
Inchmohomo, Scotland
[Malcolm's] ... grandson, John Drummond, married the eldest daught er and co-heiress of Sir John Montefex, the first of the numerous fortunate marriages made by the Drummonds John Drummund; Baillie of Dull; married Mary of Montifex, had a charter of her lands Feb 1367.
[Burke's Peerage]
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Preferred Parents:
Father: Malcolm Drummond -Tenth Thane of Lennox, b. 1296 in Stobhall, Inchmahome/Cargill, Perthshire, Scotland d. 17 OCT 1346 in Battle of Neville's Cross, Durham, England, United Kingdom
Mother: Annabella Graham, b. 1299 in Stobhall, Cargill, Perthshire, Scotland d. 1358 in Fearn, Ross-shire, Scotland
Family 1: Mary Margaret Montefichet, b. 1325 in Stobhall, Cargill, Perthshire, Scotland d. 31 JAN 1375 in Perth, Perthshire, Scotland
- Annabella Drummond -of Scotland, b. 14 AUG 1350 in Scone, Cargill, Perthshire, Scotland d. OCT 1401 in Scone Palace, Perthshire, Scotland
Sources:
- Title: Peerage
Author: [S6] G.E. Cokayne; with Vicary Gibbs, H.A. Doubleday, Geoffrey H. White, Duncan Warrand and Lord Howard de Walden, editors, The Complete Peerage of England, Scotland, Ireland, Great Britain and the United Kingdom, Extant, Extinct or Dormant, new ed., 13 volumes in 14 (1910-1959; reprint in 6 volumes, Gloucester, U.K.: Alan Sutton Publishing, 2000), volume I, page 155. Hereinafter cited as The Complete Peerage. [S1224] Derek Hughes, "re: 1st Lord Drummond," e-mail message to Darryl Lundy, 22 December 2004, 13 February 2005 and 2 March 2005. Hereinafter cited as "re: 1st Lord Drummond." [S37] BP2003 volume 3, page 3102. See link for full details for this source. Hereinafter cited as. [S37] [S8] BP1999 volume 1, page 104. See link for full details for this source. Hereinafter cited as. [S8]
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